On June 12 2015 08:10 ruXxar wrote:
I'd like to hear your reasoning for voting on me, besides the fact that very few other people have spoke up yet.

I'm voting you because you did this:

On June 12 2015 06:15 ruXxar wrote:
I'm happy to confirm that for my first mafia game i get to play VT :D

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 11 2015 23:42 GMT

#164

I'm going to make a quick and easy how to play town guide:

don't claim your role
find exactly 1 person who you think is mafia
say why this 1 person is mafia
do not form reads based on unflipped associations e.g. player X AND player Y could be mafia together because Z.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 11 2015 23:45 GMT

#166

5. Don't lie.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 11 2015 23:57 GMT

#173

On June 12 2015 08:51 n00bKing wrote:

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RuXx is on the Newbie list. How likely do you think it is that an inexperienced Mafia player would lead off the game talking about how it's cool for Town players to lie? An inexperienced Mafia member might be timid about saying hardly anything, but could be especially timid about telling everyone that there's nothing wrong with telling lies, even if you're Town. That kind of reckless boldness is a little Town-indicative to me.

Someone wants to vote against him because of his needless roleclaim, fine. But voting against him because he says it's fine to lie would be a stretch. And I think voting against him because he got caught answering a question directed at someone else (while explaining why you shouldn't answer questions directed at someone else) would be a stretch.

I don't think it would be productive for town for me to defend ruxxar. He's a big boy.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 12 2015 00:36 GMT

#175

Through repetition of danger we grow accustomed to it. Water sets the example for the right conduct under such circumstances. It flows on and on, and merely fills up all the places through which it flows; it does not shrink from any dangerous spot nor from any plunge, and nothing can make it lose its own essential nature. It remains true to itself under all conditions. Thus likewise, if one is sincere when confronted with difficulties, the heart can penetrate the meaning of the situation. And once we have gained inner mastery of a problem, it will come about naturally that the action we take will succeed. In danger all that counts is really carrying out all that has to be done.

Properly used, danger can have an important meaning as a protective measure. Thus heaven has its perilous height protecting it against every attempt at invasion, and earth has its mountains and bodies of water, separating countries by their dangers. Thus also rulers make use of danger to protect themselves against attacks from without and against turmoil within.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 12 2015 12:16 GMT

#292

On June 12 2015 17:12 n00bKing wrote:

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Some players are almost impossible to judge so far. I think FakePlants has been a virtual non-participant to this point, and I think boxerfred has been a literal non-participant (I do not remember seeing one post from him yet).

I voted against batsnacks.

1) I can understand him being upset about ruXxar's roleclaim, but I don't get using it as the basis for voting against him.
2) When I tried to engage him in discussion about the likely motivations for ruXxar's actions, batsnacks withdrew, basically telling me that it isn't his job to help any other player defend themselves.
3) I think his "quick and easy how to play town guide" contains at least one bit of bad advice, and maybe more.

This isn't a very good case. Do I have to respond to this or will you forget about me eventually? Lol

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 12 2015 12:25 GMT

#293

I'm bored

1) if you understand why I'm upset about rux's claim then you don't have a problem with me voting him. I'm not sure why you said you do have a problem with me voting rux if you understand that the claim hurts town and that hurting town makes me upset.
2) it isn't my job to defend other players, especially <6 hours into the game, it is their job to defend themselves.
3) my town guide is solid. Everyone should follow it.

4) all the stuff you have issues with and all of these responses I would say as either alignment. You can't scum read me for any of it.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 12 2015 12:44 GMT

#295

I think plant's post is scummy but I don't exactly agree with the reasons you made, especially the IRL wifom. The post comes off to me as "Blah say something obvious, forced contribution vomit."

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 12 2015 13:12 GMT

#298

On June 12 2015 21:53 Rels wrote:
Don't care that you think it's forced. Good if you agree that it's scummy. I'll keep it in mind. Vote for him if you don't find anything scummier.

I wasn't implying that your post was forced I was implying that plants post was seemed forced. Or do you not care that I think plants post was forced?

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 12 2015 13:23 GMT

#304

The guide was meant for people who are so inexperienced they haven't figured out that power roles claiming early in the game is not good. Seriously though it's all good advice. Find 1 person you think is scum, say why, go through motions, re-evaluate based on responses, repeat if necessary.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 12 2015 13:32 GMT

#306

>.>

Anyway... I don't feel like talking about this anymore. I changed my mind noobking you can find 2 scum reads. Keep your vote on me and find another another mafia.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 12 2015 13:54 GMT

#308

I think I'm going to sheep geript now he was making sense about moose.

##unvote
##vote moosygoosy

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 12 2015 15:49 GMT

#315

On June 13 2015 00:39 WaveofShadow wrote:

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So you're voting along with scum? Interesting.

I thought what he said was pretty reasonable. If I were mafia I would have gone after moose's post.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 12 2015 16:01 GMT

#320

On June 13 2015 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:

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So now we base reads on what mafia was supposed to do and didnt?

Dont like that at all.
Dont like that you peaced out and dont care about the game either. You came back here and did nothing but defend yourself. You didnt scumhunt, you didnt advance the thread.

Geript too btw.

I kinda think noob is town because he just keeps on giving advice even after people tell him to stop.

I don't feel like there's anything I need to defend against.

But yeah I do like the idea of basing reads off of what mafia should and shouldn't do. That's why I'm voting moosegoose.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

June 12 2015 16:05 GMT

#327

On June 13 2015 01:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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And what exactly did I do to show I'm Mafia? I admit my first post was dumb of me but that was because I'm generally more of a passive poster.

Besides, if you want to go along with basing reads off of what Mafia should and shouldn't do, shouldn't YOU be thinking of geript right now? He makes a post about how Mafia should act, leaves the thread after being accused of Mafia, and then does nothing to defend himself.

You didn't do anything. It's what your scum mates did, or rather didn't do (push you).