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The argument that you are pushing a hard target is not valid anymore. You saw how well it worked when I called you town for it earlier. It is also a really oldschool thing to do to just shit on obvious townies as scum to create doubt. Let's assume boxerfred and you are scum or something similar. What else can you do but try to discredit the alive townleaders? If you do not manage to make town completely doubt each other you will just get lynched 1 by 1.
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It sounds to me like you aren't actually trying to consider whether I am town at all.
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On June 11 2015 18:43 Mig wrote:
It sounds to me like you aren't actually trying to consider whether I am town at all.
You are not giving me any reason to consider that.
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I have been playing in tourneys pretty much all day everyday that this game has been going, which is why the only times I have been able to post from my pc are super late at night. Considering my time limitations I have put in a solid amount of work. And I personally think a lot more than you, I have actually gone back and read like 5-6 games that people have played. How many have you read? People can believe this or not but I really dont give a shit if you call me bad.
Using the reasoning that everyone thinks you are obv town so I shouldn't even be looking at you is fucking retarded btw. I have seen plenty of mafia games lost because everyone decided someone was town without really thinking critically about it. I am actually considering all possibilities, which anyone with a brain should be doing. And if you are town it is definitely something you arent doing.
Anyway if you are town and everyone decides to listen to you instead of me and you lynch me, when I flip town feel free to comfort yourself by saying that I suck and there was no way you could possibly have seen that I was town.
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Btw JAT you really do act like kind of a dick. I don't know if you are just emotional or maybe you are mafia and just faking it but I just wanted to add my opinion that you aren't very nice.
That's ok tho I still had fun playing with you.
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You are not "considering the possibility". You are voting me. Despite talking to me as if you know I am town.
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On June 11 2015 17:59 justanothertownie wrote:
If we lynch through this list:
Boxerfred, (Fuba), Mig
the game might be won already.
Haha no
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On June 11 2015 18:44 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 18:43 Mig wrote:
It sounds to me like you aren't actually trying to consider whether I am town at all. You are not giving me any reason to consider that.
Haha you don't give reasons yourself. All you say to raised things is basically "LEL SO STUHPIT"
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And I have no intention of being nice to you if you are pushing on me as scum or if you are being an idiot as town which are the only 2 possible worlds right now.
How about you do something productive instead and tell me why we should not lynch boxerfred? You seem to just ignore him and his wagon entirely.
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On June 11 2015 09:46 NaCl`y wrote:Rest in peace, dear marvellosity! ##vote boxerfredI know I made a lot of posts on Fuba being mafia and honestly he probably still is mafia! There is now someone else that I have a greater passion for lynching. Boxerfred. This is because of quite a few reasons and all of them are backed up simply by reading the game so I'll make this short and quoteless due to a lack of time.
Day 1: Boxerfred's play can be summarised on day 1 as simply going from clueless and spreading feelers in directions (such as on yamato briefly etc) to full on try hard and associative based on Yamato77 flipping mafia before he actually has (most damning). He also says Justanothertownie is his top town read going into night 1 for his reaction to the Artanis[Xp] situation etc. I feel like this was a disingenuous flip of "ability" to read people that simply didn't fit with his earlier playstyle. It conveniently kicked in when it was decided Yamato77 was the lynch anyway.
Day 2: Boxerfred meekly pushes VayneAuthority and is quite happy to use any excuse whatsoever to just disappear from it when provided with little evidence: Show nested quote +On June 09 2015 19:33 boxerfred wrote:On June 09 2015 19:31 marvellosity wrote:On June 09 2015 19:29 boxerfred wrote:On June 09 2015 19:28 justanothertownie wrote:On June 09 2015 19:27 boxerfred wrote:On June 09 2015 19:23 marvellosity wrote:On June 09 2015 19:22 boxerfred wrote:On June 09 2015 19:21 marvellosity wrote:
the *point* is that you made the point about Chez *because* I questioned you on Vayne, so you turned it around to people talking or backing off Chez
one caused the other No. I did not make a point. I simply wrote about a fucking filter observation not coming to any conclusion or point. I came to that conclusion when you asked your questions 2 minutes ago. stop reading stuff into my posts that is not there. You made the fucking point to deflect off me questioning you on Vayne I don't see any reason to unvote someone who is not replying to pressure. Like, you all went on the Chez train because "oh he's not here" and now that he's here you start saying "nah he doesn't look so scummy anyways". I might do the same depending on his replies but as long as there are no replies, well why should I change my stance? "why would I unvote Vayne? Here! Look at what you guys are doing with Chez!" that was precisely your defence here. What the fuck. So I explained thoroughly why I am voting Vayne. Of course I am showing what you guys are doing on Chez since I feel like noone even cares to look at my points on Vayne. Did you even check my points on Vayne by now? No? Cool shit. I distinctly remember telling you that VA doing jackshit does not make him scum and that he tends to not give a fuck as town. I distinctly remember that I played one game of Mafia thus far here and can't tell if you're right. + Show Spoiler [VayneAuthority] +5 minutes of your time to confirm/deny jat Wow, such small filters. ##unvote Yes, it's a quote. I lied earlier. He then jumps on Chezinu because it was what everyone else was doing. Suddenly, Boxerfred makes a big case on Justanothertownie being mafia which contained all of the posts that Boxerfred said made Justanothertownie his top town on day 1. Note earlier when he dropped his VayneAuthority read based on people giving evidence to the opposite? Now this is not the case for Justanothertownie. Unfortunately I can't finish this due to time, will continue later.
Look that's a solid town post, JAT, not the bullshit you're producing on the daily basis. I'd follow this case any day. It's a shame I played so dumb because I don't see me surviving this day anyway. However, JAT, look at such posts. They are towny. Your posts simply aren't, they are uncommiting rubbish. All the way down your filter. You're actively spitting out bullshit post after bullshit post. 
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On June 11 2015 19:24 justanothertownie wrote:
And I have no intention of being nice to you if you are pushing on me as scum or if you are being an idiot as town which are the only 2 possible worlds right now.
How about you do something productive instead and tell me why we should not lynch boxerfred? You seem to just ignore him and his wagon entirely.
wait wait wait I thought we lynch me eh? You said "WE ARE GOING TO LYNCH YOU DAY THREE" and now you want to hear reasons on why not to vote me? Haha sure bro start committing to something already -.- you're boring.
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United States4714 Posts
I have spent a lot of time thinking about all the possibilities. Maybe I am wrong and the scum team is some combo of vayne/boxer/ff/prphlz. I have reasons to at least lean town on ff/prplhz tho, more than just taking marv's word that you are town. You are who I am most confident is scum but guess what I don't know for sure which is why I still at least entertain the possibility that you are town.
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On June 11 2015 19:25 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 09:46 NaCl`y wrote:Rest in peace, dear marvellosity! ##vote boxerfredI know I made a lot of posts on Fuba being mafia and honestly he probably still is mafia! There is now someone else that I have a greater passion for lynching. Boxerfred. This is because of quite a few reasons and all of them are backed up simply by reading the game so I'll make this short and quoteless due to a lack of time.
Day 1: Boxerfred's play can be summarised on day 1 as simply going from clueless and spreading feelers in directions (such as on yamato briefly etc) to full on try hard and associative based on Yamato77 flipping mafia before he actually has (most damning). He also says Justanothertownie is his top town read going into night 1 for his reaction to the Artanis[Xp] situation etc. I feel like this was a disingenuous flip of "ability" to read people that simply didn't fit with his earlier playstyle. It conveniently kicked in when it was decided Yamato77 was the lynch anyway.
Day 2: Boxerfred meekly pushes VayneAuthority and is quite happy to use any excuse whatsoever to just disappear from it when provided with little evidence: On June 09 2015 19:33 boxerfred wrote:On June 09 2015 19:31 marvellosity wrote:On June 09 2015 19:29 boxerfred wrote:On June 09 2015 19:28 justanothertownie wrote:On June 09 2015 19:27 boxerfred wrote:On June 09 2015 19:23 marvellosity wrote:On June 09 2015 19:22 boxerfred wrote:On June 09 2015 19:21 marvellosity wrote:
the *point* is that you made the point about Chez *because* I questioned you on Vayne, so you turned it around to people talking or backing off Chez
one caused the other No. I did not make a point. I simply wrote about a fucking filter observation not coming to any conclusion or point. I came to that conclusion when you asked your questions 2 minutes ago. stop reading stuff into my posts that is not there. You made the fucking point to deflect off me questioning you on Vayne I don't see any reason to unvote someone who is not replying to pressure. Like, you all went on the Chez train because "oh he's not here" and now that he's here you start saying "nah he doesn't look so scummy anyways". I might do the same depending on his replies but as long as there are no replies, well why should I change my stance? "why would I unvote Vayne? Here! Look at what you guys are doing with Chez!" that was precisely your defence here. What the fuck. So I explained thoroughly why I am voting Vayne. Of course I am showing what you guys are doing on Chez since I feel like noone even cares to look at my points on Vayne. Did you even check my points on Vayne by now? No? Cool shit. I distinctly remember telling you that VA doing jackshit does not make him scum and that he tends to not give a fuck as town. I distinctly remember that I played one game of Mafia thus far here and can't tell if you're right. + Show Spoiler [VayneAuthority] +5 minutes of your time to confirm/deny jat Wow, such small filters. ##unvote Yes, it's a quote. I lied earlier. He then jumps on Chezinu because it was what everyone else was doing. Suddenly, Boxerfred makes a big case on Justanothertownie being mafia which contained all of the posts that Boxerfred said made Justanothertownie his top town on day 1. Note earlier when he dropped his VayneAuthority read based on people giving evidence to the opposite? Now this is not the case for Justanothertownie. Unfortunately I can't finish this due to time, will continue later. Look that's a solid town post, JAT, not the bullshit you're producing on the daily basis. I'd follow this case any day. It's a shame I played so dumb because I don't see me surviving this day anyway. However, JAT, look at such posts. They are towny. Your posts simply aren't, they are uncommiting rubbish. All the way down your filter. You're actively spitting out bullshit post after bullshit post.
It is funny that you are trying to educate your SCUMREAD how to play TOWN better.
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On June 11 2015 19:26 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 19:24 justanothertownie wrote:
And I have no intention of being nice to you if you are pushing on me as scum or if you are being an idiot as town which are the only 2 possible worlds right now.
How about you do something productive instead and tell me why we should not lynch boxerfred? You seem to just ignore him and his wagon entirely. wait wait wait I thought we lynch me eh? You said "WE ARE GOING TO LYNCH YOU DAY THREE" and now you want to hear reasons on why not to vote me? Haha sure bro start committing to something already -.- you're boring.
Are you dense? I want to know why mig does not want to lynch you. That in no way means that I do not want to lynch you. my vote on you should indicate as much.
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On June 11 2015 19:26 Mig wrote:
I have spent a lot of time thinking about all the possibilities. Maybe I am wrong and the scum team is some combo of vayne/boxer/ff/prphlz. I have reasons to at least lean town on ff/prplhz tho, more than just taking marv's word that you are town. You are who I am most confident is scum but guess what I don't know for sure which is why I still at least entertain the possibility that you are town.
lol, where is boxerfred in all of this?
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United States4714 Posts
Anyway I am going to bed. I didn't say you have to be nice btw. Just that you really do act like a dick, and I wonder sometimes if the people who get as angry as you seem to actually enjoy playing mafia.
And if you are town btw then you are just as dumb as I am since you are wrong about me being scum so shrug. Maybe we are both idiots. Going to be fun to find out!
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On June 11 2015 19:26 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 19:25 boxerfred wrote:On June 11 2015 09:46 NaCl`y wrote:Rest in peace, dear marvellosity! ##vote boxerfredI know I made a lot of posts on Fuba being mafia and honestly he probably still is mafia! There is now someone else that I have a greater passion for lynching. Boxerfred. This is because of quite a few reasons and all of them are backed up simply by reading the game so I'll make this short and quoteless due to a lack of time.
Day 1: Boxerfred's play can be summarised on day 1 as simply going from clueless and spreading feelers in directions (such as on yamato briefly etc) to full on try hard and associative based on Yamato77 flipping mafia before he actually has (most damning). He also says Justanothertownie is his top town read going into night 1 for his reaction to the Artanis[Xp] situation etc. I feel like this was a disingenuous flip of "ability" to read people that simply didn't fit with his earlier playstyle. It conveniently kicked in when it was decided Yamato77 was the lynch anyway.
Day 2: Boxerfred meekly pushes VayneAuthority and is quite happy to use any excuse whatsoever to just disappear from it when provided with little evidence: On June 09 2015 19:33 boxerfred wrote:On June 09 2015 19:31 marvellosity wrote:On June 09 2015 19:29 boxerfred wrote:On June 09 2015 19:28 justanothertownie wrote:On June 09 2015 19:27 boxerfred wrote:On June 09 2015 19:23 marvellosity wrote:On June 09 2015 19:22 boxerfred wrote:
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No. I did not make a point. I simply wrote about a fucking filter observation not coming to any conclusion or point. I came to that conclusion when you asked your questions 2 minutes ago. stop reading stuff into my posts that is not there. You made the fucking point to deflect off me questioning you on Vayne I don't see any reason to unvote someone who is not replying to pressure. Like, you all went on the Chez train because "oh he's not here" and now that he's here you start saying "nah he doesn't look so scummy anyways". I might do the same depending on his replies but as long as there are no replies, well why should I change my stance? "why would I unvote Vayne? Here! Look at what you guys are doing with Chez!" that was precisely your defence here. What the fuck. So I explained thoroughly why I am voting Vayne. Of course I am showing what you guys are doing on Chez since I feel like noone even cares to look at my points on Vayne. Did you even check my points on Vayne by now? No? Cool shit. I distinctly remember telling you that VA doing jackshit does not make him scum and that he tends to not give a fuck as town. I distinctly remember that I played one game of Mafia thus far here and can't tell if you're right. + Show Spoiler [VayneAuthority] +5 minutes of your time to confirm/deny jat Wow, such small filters. ##unvote Yes, it's a quote. I lied earlier. He then jumps on Chezinu because it was what everyone else was doing. Suddenly, Boxerfred makes a big case on Justanothertownie being mafia which contained all of the posts that Boxerfred said made Justanothertownie his top town on day 1. Note earlier when he dropped his VayneAuthority read based on people giving evidence to the opposite? Now this is not the case for Justanothertownie. Unfortunately I can't finish this due to time, will continue later. Look that's a solid town post, JAT, not the bullshit you're producing on the daily basis. I'd follow this case any day. It's a shame I played so dumb because I don't see me surviving this day anyway. However, JAT, look at such posts. They are towny. Your posts simply aren't, they are uncommiting rubbish. All the way down your filter. You're actively spitting out bullshit post after bullshit post. It is funny that you are trying to educate your SCUMREAD how to play TOWN better.
Haha no I'm just saying (in a rather obvious way, like, it's written there) that your so-called town posts that make you feel like you are a CONFIRMED TOWN (your words mate) are just bullshit. Like, hardcore uncommitting bullshit. Posting such a whole lot of stuff, it's impossible to find anything of value in that. The only valuable thing that I thought was a good thing was your Artanis post and I have explained already why that post is not really towny anymore.
Bro you're scum.
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On June 11 2015 19:29 Mig wrote:
Anyway I am going to bed. I didn't say you have to be nice btw. Just that you really do act like a dick, and I wonder sometimes if the people who get as angry as you seem to actually enjoy playing mafia.
And if you are town btw then you are just as dumb as I am since you are wrong about me being scum so shrug. Maybe we are both idiots. Going to be fun to find out!
I am not voting for you though. I am also not ignoring the main wagon like you do.
And you have nothing on anyone else and think it is a good idea to ignore marvs read on me? Since my very first scumgame on this site marv has NEVER been wrong on me. He always called me town when I was town and scum or at the very least null when I was scum. With 100 % accuracy in a shitload of games.
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I have thought a decent amount on boxer. I am inclined to think there is at least some chance he is just new and horrible tho. His case against you was unquestionably really awful. But I have to wonder how much you and marv just fucked with his head with your non stop interrogation. There are some things hes done, like his totally random vote on marv yesterday which were a lot bolder than anything he did in his newbie game. Will think on it more tomorrow.
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