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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
June 11 2015 12:13 GMT
#1721
And if you read what happened today so far - what do you think of Mig?
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 11 2015 12:13 GMT
#1722
I'm leaning more towards fuba tbh but I'm looking at FF's case on BF atm to make sure I didn't miss anything.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 11 2015 12:14 GMT
#1723
On June 11 2015 21:13 justanothertownie wrote:
And if you read what happened today so far - what do you think of Mig?


Getting there.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
June 11 2015 12:14 GMT
#1724
Ok, then catch up first.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 11 2015 12:21 GMT
#1725
Most of the same points are there re: BF. I hated his voting switches D2 that I know. And you had the D1 no lynch/yamato thing. Which all in all are really bad.

The one thing I did not catch before however, would appear how he switched his stance on you JAT.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
June 11 2015 12:27 GMT
#1726
Which is a pretty damning point against him because that's not the thought process of a townie.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 11 2015 12:30 GMT
#1727
I'm reading up on Mig atm but I really need to see WHY BF switched stances. Or more importantly, what was the basis for his townread and the switch. That's why I'm not liking fuba at all, because weighting a tone read over more substantive information that happened before AND after (though I'm not sure fuba was quite active after even) doesn't make a lot of sense.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 11 2015 12:30 GMT
#1728
EBWOP - why BF switched stances on you.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
June 11 2015 12:33 GMT
#1729
You will have a hard time finding a "why". He townreads me for the Artanis post and because there is "Nothing scummy about me". Later he scumreads me for the same fucking post and for using oneliners like I have all game. And because an "experienced player like me" did not immediately read NaCl cc as a reaction test because "even he knew that" which is fucking ridiculous.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
June 11 2015 12:34 GMT
#1730
I think scum just realized that they just lose outright if they let me lead this town uncontested.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
June 11 2015 12:36 GMT
#1731
Marv and I identified each other as town and they couldn't kill both of us so they have to do something now. If BF and Fuba aren't both mafia they could get the other one mislynched today but day4 they are done for and then it is too late to start fighting.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 11 2015 12:36 GMT
#1732
@Mig Don't you find it disconcerting that so far your only support in this justanothertownie lynch is boxerfred, who you yourself thinks has very poor reasoning for going after justanothertownie? You started this entire game by expressing your respect for marvellosity and now he's confirmed town you go straight against one of his reads?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 11 2015 12:42 GMT
#1733
Alright, so I looked at Mig's post, namely the Yamato interaction post. Here's my take.

Second half I really don't like. You have a different style of play - conversational play. You said you only played one game with him, IIRC.

But I've also played with you enough to know that to some extent, he has to evaluate you differently. Aperture was very different because to some extent it was a PM game, so any digging was not done by filter hunting it was via PM. That's a big thing I think he's missing when making that meta comparison.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
June 11 2015 12:45 GMT
#1734
On June 11 2015 21:42 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright, so I looked at Mig's post, namely the Yamato interaction post. Here's my take.

Second half I really don't like. You have a different style of play - conversational play. You said you only played one game with him, IIRC.

But I've also played with you enough to know that to some extent, he has to evaluate you differently. Aperture was very different because to some extent it was a PM game, so any digging was not done by filter hunting it was via PM. That's a big thing I think he's missing when making that meta comparison.

I don't really know how missing that would lead to the conclusion he got though. Aperture is just a bad comparison for multiple reasons. One of them indeed being that it was a fucking greymist game.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 11 2015 12:46 GMT
#1735
Yamato calling you "town" JAT at that stage in the game could be TMI on his part actually - that could actually discredit anything Mig says about soft pushes from Yamato. Why would he call you town (even if stupid town) for lynching into obvious claims when Artanis' claim was questionable in the first place? And from reading your own filter, you had established both on a claim analysis front AND a behaviour/gameplay front why Artanis' claim was questionable.

That's potentially another flaw in his case.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
June 11 2015 12:49 GMT
#1736
Sure. The fact that his case is bad isn't in question here. The question is do you think he is town playing very sloppily or mafia?
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 11 2015 12:49 GMT
#1737
the whole yamato/jat interaction thing is tenuous
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 11 2015 12:51 GMT
#1738
i don't think those are the only two options. people see things differently. if mig is town he's certainly putting in some real effort and not being sloppy. townies often have wrong reads, get over it.

hmm what would marv do
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
June 11 2015 12:53 GMT
#1739
On June 11 2015 21:51 prplhz wrote:
i don't think those are the only two options. people see things differently. if mig is town he's certainly putting in some real effort and not being sloppy. townies often have wrong reads, get over it.

hmm what would marv do

That's exactly the point - he is NOT putting in some real effort. He made a lazy/bad case on me and is doing NOTHING else. He is not interacting with other players, he is not questioning anyone and he is also not giving reads on anyone else besides me except for one post about fuba.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 11 2015 12:54 GMT
#1740
But all in all, it's a weak case. I can see where he demonstrates about the soft pushes but that alone to me would not be enough to call someone mafia. Something similar happened to me in Titanic 7 when both town and mafia jumped on LightningStrike for something he said about him and me and immediately everyone assumed both of us (who were town) were mafia.

The only question from his POV that could be valid is him asking why you took so long to focus on Yamato because he's actually focusing on something you did or didn't do. But Yamato's pushes though I can see where he initially comes from the potential TMI quote where he talks about lynching into obvious claims should create enough doubt that he was going soft pushing on a mafia JAT.
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