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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 15:19 GMT
#1261
Actually slight followup to my last question - fuba aside from your position on BF, where do you also stand on VA?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 09 2015 15:21 GMT
#1262
Oh, and regarding the explanation for my BF read flipping:

In all honesty, the thing that swayed me most is that he just seemed genuine. That isn't typically an acceptable answer, so I tried to fluff it up with "reasoning" and such.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 09 2015 15:24 GMT
#1263
On June 10 2015 00:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 00:15 Half the Sky wrote:

Someone (you marv?) said he had a hard time posting as scum and a quote like that with a response like that (second quote) makes me think (if what you are saying is correct) he's posting just to post.

That's the impression I get from reviewing those last two things of his filter.

He says Vayne is scummy and I'm having a tough time seeing why, you are having a tough time seeing why and then he says "I never said....etc....it's pretty much all I can say."

The quotes alone don't make him mafia but based on what you (or whoever said it) know about him, that he has trouble posting or in this case explaining his position on Vayne.

Exactly.

Right now, I'm still thinking BF is town. Though I'm gonna read his previous game to see if I get the same feeling from him there as I do here.

And I have little idea about Vayne. The only thing I directly remember about him is his reaction to yamato flipping (which was either just an honest town reaction or scum wifom) and the fact that he reposted his post about me from our last game together (which would seem to indicate he's a survivor XD).

So... my current VA read is a whole lot of *shrugs*
@theRealMkfuba07
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
June 09 2015 15:26 GMT
#1264
On June 10 2015 00:24 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 00:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 10 2015 00:15 Half the Sky wrote:

Someone (you marv?) said he had a hard time posting as scum and a quote like that with a response like that (second quote) makes me think (if what you are saying is correct) he's posting just to post.

That's the impression I get from reviewing those last two things of his filter.

He says Vayne is scummy and I'm having a tough time seeing why, you are having a tough time seeing why and then he says "I never said....etc....it's pretty much all I can say."

The quotes alone don't make him mafia but based on what you (or whoever said it) know about him, that he has trouble posting or in this case explaining his position on Vayne.

Exactly.

Right now, I'm still thinking BF is town. Though I'm gonna read his previous game to see if I get the same feeling from him there as I do here.

And I have little idea about Vayne. The only thing I directly remember about him is his reaction to yamato flipping (which was either just an honest town reaction or scum wifom) and the fact that he reposted his post about me from our last game together (which would seem to indicate he's a survivor XD).

So... my current VA read is a whole lot of *shrugs*

Do you have any reads that do not consists only of shrugs?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 09 2015 15:28 GMT
#1265
On June 10 2015 00:24 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 00:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 10 2015 00:15 Half the Sky wrote:

Someone (you marv?) said he had a hard time posting as scum and a quote like that with a response like that (second quote) makes me think (if what you are saying is correct) he's posting just to post.

That's the impression I get from reviewing those last two things of his filter.

He says Vayne is scummy and I'm having a tough time seeing why, you are having a tough time seeing why and then he says "I never said....etc....it's pretty much all I can say."

The quotes alone don't make him mafia but based on what you (or whoever said it) know about him, that he has trouble posting or in this case explaining his position on Vayne.

Exactly.

Right now, I'm still thinking BF is town. Though I'm gonna read his previous game to see if I get the same feeling from him there as I do here.

And I have little idea about Vayne. The only thing I directly remember about him is his reaction to yamato flipping (which was either just an honest town reaction or scum wifom) and the fact that he reposted his post about me from our last game together (which would seem to indicate he's a survivor XD).

So... my current VA read is a whole lot of *shrugs*

My behaviour this game is totally different from last game I have to say. Lots of bullshit posts and lots of fights that I normally don't take.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 09 2015 15:30 GMT
#1266
On June 10 2015 00:04 Half the Sky wrote:
If that was it, then that's even worse than I expected.

I checked VA's filter now - he voted once for Mig and once for Chez, post-lynch reaction he's saying wtf Yamato has sunk to new lows (paraphrasing) so that just doesn't compute logically on my end.



On June 07 2015 08:31 boxerfred wrote:
Wow just went into Vayne's filter. Not even a whole page. Around EoN though, with two posts indicating that Yamato really did bad plays:

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On June 07 2015 08:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
i am really surprised yamato plays like that as scum now too, he has sunk to new lows


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On June 07 2015 08:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 07 2015 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 07 2015 08:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
i am really surprised yamato plays like that as scum now too, he has sunk to new lows

nah man, yamato always sucked as mafia.


i mean just the blatant anger and insults, so unnecessary as scum lol


Vayne, you seem to be bothered quite a lot with the death of yamato? Thought you wouldn't care too much:

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On June 07 2015 06:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
i dont think yamato is mafia but dont mind if he dies. hes basically just IamRobik except he doesnt ever get warned for behavior somehow even though every post he makes is a personal insult





On June 07 2015 08:33 boxerfred wrote:
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On June 06 2015 08:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
i really dont see whats so unbelievable about jailkeeper/doctor tbh. if there is another blue then it is pretty ridiculous but just the 2 on their own is not a big deal. I would probably give mafia something like roleblocker/vig and call it a day.


Trying to derail townies into thinking about a unlikely setup?

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On June 06 2015 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
i think mig is still a good lynch tbh, all this confirmed is that the guy is town and giving a genuine opinion on mig.


Weak read followed by a vote?

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On June 06 2015 14:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote mig


More shady than slim, bro.


Yes.

On June 10 2015 00:00 Half the Sky wrote:
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On June 08 2015 22:59 fuba wrote:
I will say that the scummiest thing about vane isn't even anything he did. In yamato's last game, he opened with an instant vote for VA. Basically a policy lynch. I think he could have done the same thing this game and not looked suspicious, but he didn't. Maybe because he didn't want to bus so early? *shrugs*

(At work for the next few hours)


Alright Marv (from your quote on this), I am also having this same problem with this quote he says on Vayne. Vayne doesn't post much as either alignment, and even as scum he's not as tryhard as he was supposedly before (well I learnt that the hard way in Aperture 4). I also don't understand the associative read that he makes between yam and VA here.

Fuba are you referring to the timing of the vote here that makes Vayne scummy? Had to read this more than a few times now. I checked the vote count and VA voted Chez so I am completely confused by this?

In any case looking at the rest of the filter, I still would have expected some followup if he had a problem with Vayne. Even a one-liner for what it was worth.


So we not dropping Vayne, ya? fredies likes that.
##vote Chezinu because everyone does it anyways. I guess I'll be next up for the lynch so let this not be a mislynch, please.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2015 15:30 GMT
#1267
I bring that out in people <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 09 2015 15:32 GMT
#1268
On June 10 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
I bring that out in people <3

I've halfway given up on this game already.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 15:33 GMT
#1269
On June 10 2015 00:24 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 00:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 10 2015 00:15 Half the Sky wrote:

Someone (you marv?) said he had a hard time posting as scum and a quote like that with a response like that (second quote) makes me think (if what you are saying is correct) he's posting just to post.

That's the impression I get from reviewing those last two things of his filter.

He says Vayne is scummy and I'm having a tough time seeing why, you are having a tough time seeing why and then he says "I never said....etc....it's pretty much all I can say."

The quotes alone don't make him mafia but based on what you (or whoever said it) know about him, that he has trouble posting or in this case explaining his position on Vayne.

Exactly.

Right now, I'm still thinking BF is town. Though I'm gonna read his previous game to see if I get the same feeling from him there as I do here.

And I have little idea about Vayne. The only thing I directly remember about him is his reaction to yamato flipping (which was either just an honest town reaction or scum wifom) and the fact that he reposted his post about me from our last game together (which would seem to indicate he's a survivor XD).

So... my current VA read is a whole lot of *shrugs*


Yamato and VA I know have been around a long time and his expectations of yamato's scum play might be indicative of what his true meaning was there...well fuck, I don't know enough about yamato as mafia except that in Ippo he lurked and just did not play. But Ippo was last month, I know jack all how yamato has played as mafia from whenever before my time.

I generally think VA is town if he does post 1-2 useful things. I don't think he did that in Aperture 4 but when I tried to hold him accountable for "tryhardiness" in that game he told me don't consider his gameplay in the whole context of things...and then he was mafia. Figures. My play in Aperture was terrible but I digress.

This game though...to me those 1-2 "useful" posts I'd say are the comments on mig, the entrance and his metaread on Chez. I think he's town.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2015 15:34 GMT
#1270
On June 10 2015 00:33 Half the Sky wrote:
I generally think VA is town if he does post 1-2 useful things. I don't think he did that in Aperture 4 but when I tried to hold him accountable for "tryhardiness" in that game he told me don't consider his gameplay in the whole context of things...and then he was mafia. Figures. My play in Aperture was terrible but I digress.

God-awful metric to read VA
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 15:34 GMT
#1271
On June 10 2015 00:28 boxerfred wrote:
My behaviour this game is totally different from last game I have to say. Lots of bullshit posts and lots of fights that I normally don't take.


And how does bullshit and fighting make you town (by the way you worded it)?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
June 09 2015 15:35 GMT
#1272
On June 10 2015 00:32 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
I bring that out in people <3

I've halfway given up on this game already.

Why? We lynched scum day1. If we chez is also scum it could not go any better. Your only job this game is to avoid getting mislynched if you are town and even if you are mislynched scum needs 3 (!) more of those unless there is more KP in this game.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 15:37 GMT
#1273
On June 10 2015 00:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 00:33 Half the Sky wrote:
I generally think VA is town if he does post 1-2 useful things. I don't think he did that in Aperture 4 but when I tried to hold him accountable for "tryhardiness" in that game he told me don't consider his gameplay in the whole context of things...and then he was mafia. Figures. My play in Aperture was terrible but I digress.

God-awful metric to read VA


Maybe I'm not the best at it, but I know he lurks as town, as far as town games are concerned that metric comes from void, titanic 7, carnaval to a lesser extent. Void he tried to look at my filter after I got lynched for instance. Carnaval he was survivor and tried to look at fuba. If it's shit-tier, fine but I probably have more limited experience with him than you have.

Maybe I should look at more games, but I'm just recalling from whatever I played or hosted with him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
June 09 2015 15:38 GMT
#1274
On June 10 2015 00:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 00:33 Half the Sky wrote:
I generally think VA is town if he does post 1-2 useful things. I don't think he did that in Aperture 4 but when I tried to hold him accountable for "tryhardiness" in that game he told me don't consider his gameplay in the whole context of things...and then he was mafia. Figures. My play in Aperture was terrible but I digress.

God-awful metric to read VA

Yes. And I would not read too much into VAs comments on yamatos play. It is probably genuine regardless of his alignment. Note: He isn't saying yamato sucked, he is saying that he hates the bm yamato was sporting.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2015 15:38 GMT
#1275
it's fine. it's taken me like 2 years to get to the point where i start to think i have some sort of handle on VA.

And even then i'm not sure
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
June 09 2015 15:41 GMT
#1276
On June 10 2015 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
it's fine. it's taken me like 2 years to get to the point where i start to think i have some sort of handle on VA.

And even then i'm not sure

Yeah, it is hard. My read on him doesn't really go any further than "as town he does not give a fuck" "as scum he gives a few fucks and you can sometimes see an agenda". This game the former seems to be far more true.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 15:46 GMT
#1277
Fair enough. I think at this point BF/Chez/Mig/Fuba might be the most productive way to focus at this point and then if we find out we're wrong on enough of them, re-evaluate.

Also BF you highlighted the part in my quote regarding Aperture - I am not saying VA is scum here. I am using that last game as an example where he did trick me. But in that quote I was questioning where fuba stood on him, and then he made comments on you.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 15:47 GMT
#1278
And BF you're voting Chezinu because everyone does it anyways?

>_<
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2015 15:48 GMT
#1279
well you know this game is going places when i read 200 posts of boxerfred taking over for yamato and discussing my meta

plz be mafia chezinu


##vote chezinu
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2015 15:50 GMT
#1280
But really I think the nightkills will reveal what this game is truly about anyway, if it is just going to be an easy game or if some one is actually playing well.
I come in for the scraps
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