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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2015 14:35 GMT
#1241
it can because it's difficult to explain and my feelings aren't that strong about it, so i'd essentially be spending many sentences thinking & waffling on something i don't have conviction on anyway, and i cba.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
June 09 2015 14:36 GMT
#1242
On June 09 2015 23:35 marvellosity wrote:
it can because it's difficult to explain and my feelings aren't that strong about it, so i'd essentially be spending many sentences thinking & waffling on something i don't have conviction on anyway, and i cba.

You are awful.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2015 14:44 GMT
#1243
i know
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
June 09 2015 14:46 GMT
#1244
That doesn't make it better.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2015 14:47 GMT
#1245
i know
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
June 09 2015 14:51 GMT
#1246
That makes it even worse.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2015 14:53 GMT
#1247
lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 15:00 GMT
#1248
On June 08 2015 22:59 fuba wrote:
I will say that the scummiest thing about vane isn't even anything he did. In yamato's last game, he opened with an instant vote for VA. Basically a policy lynch. I think he could have done the same thing this game and not looked suspicious, but he didn't. Maybe because he didn't want to bus so early? *shrugs*

(At work for the next few hours)


Alright Marv (from your quote on this), I am also having this same problem with this quote he says on Vayne. Vayne doesn't post much as either alignment, and even as scum he's not as tryhard as he was supposedly before (well I learnt that the hard way in Aperture 4). I also don't understand the associative read that he makes between yam and VA here.

Fuba are you referring to the timing of the vote here that makes Vayne scummy? Had to read this more than a few times now. I checked the vote count and VA voted Chez so I am completely confused by this?

In any case looking at the rest of the filter, I still would have expected some followup if he had a problem with Vayne. Even a one-liner for what it was worth.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 15:02 GMT
#1249
JAT, I know what you mean by his filter, why you don't like it, why he's showing scum tendencies etc, but would I rank him top of the list for lynch is another question though.

I have to wrap up things at work but I should be fully caught up rest of the thread after dinner and then I'll dive BF and Chez a second time.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
June 09 2015 15:03 GMT
#1250
On June 10 2015 00:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 22:59 fuba wrote:
I will say that the scummiest thing about vane isn't even anything he did. In yamato's last game, he opened with an instant vote for VA. Basically a policy lynch. I think he could have done the same thing this game and not looked suspicious, but he didn't. Maybe because he didn't want to bus so early? *shrugs*

(At work for the next few hours)


Alright Marv (from your quote on this), I am also having this same problem with this quote he says on Vayne. Vayne doesn't post much as either alignment, and even as scum he's not as tryhard as he was supposedly before (well I learnt that the hard way in Aperture 4). I also don't understand the associative read that he makes between yam and VA here.

Fuba are you referring to the timing of the vote here that makes Vayne scummy? Had to read this more than a few times now. I checked the vote count and VA voted Chez so I am completely confused by this?

In any case looking at the rest of the filter, I still would have expected some followup if he had a problem with Vayne. Even a one-liner for what it was worth.

FUba is saying he would expect yamato to vote for VA again if he was town which is a quite ridiculous thing to say.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 15:04 GMT
#1251
If that was it, then that's even worse than I expected.

I checked VA's filter now - he voted once for Mig and once for Chez, post-lynch reaction he's saying wtf Yamato has sunk to new lows (paraphrasing) so that just doesn't compute logically on my end.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2015 15:06 GMT
#1252
it is a ridiculous point but i don't think it's a uniquely mafia ridiculous point

its main quality is ridiculousness
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
June 09 2015 15:07 GMT
#1253
On June 10 2015 00:06 marvellosity wrote:
it is a ridiculous point but i don't think it's a uniquely mafia ridiculous point

its main quality is ridiculousness

Yes. But if all you show is ridiculousness that's generally not a point in your favor.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2015 15:09 GMT
#1254
i dno.

as a devil's advocate i might posit that townies are in general more ridiculous than mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 09 2015 15:13 GMT
#1255
Good morning! Marv, if you're looking for more stream of consciousness out of me, this quote was about as SoC as you'll see from me. Not even sure when you think you've read something from me that was SoC, because I almost always spend way too long thinking about what I'm writing. In any case, this quote was a last-minute thought right before I had to get to work. (and the ensuing confusion is part of why I take forever to write my posts now ^^)
On June 10 2015 00:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 22:59 fuba wrote:
I will say that the scummiest thing about vane isn't even anything he did. In yamato's last game, he opened with an instant vote for VA. Basically a policy lynch. I think he could have done the same thing this game and not looked suspicious, but he didn't. Maybe because he didn't want to bus so early? *shrugs*

(At work for the next few hours)


Alright Marv (from your quote on this), I am also having this same problem with this quote he says on Vayne. Vayne doesn't post much as either alignment, and even as scum he's not as tryhard as he was supposedly before (well I learnt that the hard way in Aperture 4). I also don't understand the associative read that he makes between yam and VA here.

Fuba are you referring to the timing of the vote here that makes Vayne scummy? Had to read this more than a few times now. I checked the vote count and VA voted Chez so I am completely confused by this?

In any case looking at the rest of the filter, I still would have expected some followup if he had a problem with Vayne. Even a one-liner for what it was worth.

This was mostly in response to what BF was saying about Vayne. BF was saying Vayne was scummy, and I pointed out what I saw as the most potentially scummy thing about Vayne at that point. The fact that it was so flimsy was meant to imply that I don't really think vayne is scum (or, I should say, I really have no idea what to think about vayne), but I apparently didn't convey it properly.
@theRealMkfuba07
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 15:15 GMT
#1256
Well yeah there's that and then you look at back to back quotes from fuba (operative words in bold):

On June 08 2015 22:59 fuba wrote:
I will say that the scummiest thing about vane isn't even anything he did. In yamato's last game, he opened with an instant vote for VA. Basically a policy lynch. I think he could have done the same thing this game and not looked suspicious, but he didn't. Maybe because he didn't want to bus so early? *shrugs*

(At work for the next few hours)


On June 09 2015 03:56 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 22:57 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 08 2015 22:53 fuba wrote:
Don't think I'm up for a bf lynch today. While his yamato association reads could be scum, it could also be newbie townie confidence. It would also seem strange for 2/3 of the scumteam to passively vote for each other for most of D1, exclusively. And, he's actually here, playing, which is more than can be said for half the thread, myself included.

I'm gonna have to think about who I want to lynch instead, though.


His newbie game has walls of text of involvement. I don't think bussing is strange in the slightest either.

Your post gives me massive hesitancy about your alignment though. Why are those things unlikely? VayneAuthority, chezinu, Alakaslam are all chronic afkers despite their alignments.

People having hesitancy about my alignment is the standard way of things, so I'm kinda glad we've returned to it. Was making me uncomfortable.

I haven't read his newbie game. Might do so tonight. But I don't really see the point in comparing this current game to his single previously played game. Speculating on how he might play town based off of his scum game is silly, and without having at least one of each, you can't even attempt to form some kind of meta read.

What I think is silly is light bussing pretty much immediately, and then remaining on that nearly the entire day. Admittedly, at the end, BF went balls to the wall against yamato and anyone not voting for him. As I said earlier, it could be TMI. Can't fault anyone for thinking that. But I see it as a town newbie, excited that his first scumread was getting lynched. He doesn't seem concerned with how the thread sees him (until he's actually called out on it). He seems genuine.

I would probably see it differently if it was someone who wasn't in their second game.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 23:00 marvellosity wrote:
On June 08 2015 22:59 fuba wrote:
I will say that the scummiest thing about vane isn't even anything he did. In yamato's last game, he opened with an instant vote for VA. Basically a policy lynch. I think he could have done the same thing this game and not looked suspicious, but he didn't. Maybe because he didn't want to bus so early? *shrugs*

(At work for the next few hours)

lol

this is amazingly tenuous

Yeah, I never said it was anything more than that. It's pretty much all I can say about Vayne though.


Considering he has not done anything after this it's a soft push at best, then again to be fair VA probably isn't giving much for him to push on, but we go back to why he made that first quote in the first place.

Someone (you marv?) said he had a hard time posting as scum and a quote like that with a response like that (second quote) makes me think (if what you are saying is correct) he's posting just to post.

That's the impression I get from reviewing those last two things of his filter.

He says Vayne is scummy and I'm having a tough time seeing why, you are having a tough time seeing why and then he says "I never said....etc....it's pretty much all I can say."

The quotes alone don't make him mafia but based on what you (or whoever said it) know about him, that he has trouble posting or in this case explaining his position on Vayne.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
June 09 2015 15:16 GMT
#1257
On June 10 2015 00:09 marvellosity wrote:
i dno.

as a devil's advocate i might posit that townies are in general more ridiculous than mafia

Better don't posit. It depends on the type of ridiculousness I think.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 15:16 GMT
#1258
Sweet, he's back. Ah okay. Your second quote "that's all I have to say on Vayne" made me wonder where you were going with that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 15:18 GMT
#1259
So you (fuba) don't think VA is scum but apparently BF does? (or did?)

Alright.

Where do you stand on BF then?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
June 09 2015 15:18 GMT
#1260
On June 10 2015 00:15 Half the Sky wrote:

Someone (you marv?) said he had a hard time posting as scum and a quote like that with a response like that (second quote) makes me think (if what you are saying is correct) he's posting just to post.

That's the impression I get from reviewing those last two things of his filter.

He says Vayne is scummy and I'm having a tough time seeing why, you are having a tough time seeing why and then he says "I never said....etc....it's pretty much all I can say."

The quotes alone don't make him mafia but based on what you (or whoever said it) know about him, that he has trouble posting or in this case explaining his position on Vayne.

Exactly.
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