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so now im your top scum read along with lurkers? rofl
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also, i've read the op, i know the schematics of the game.
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Fuck this
After LS flips green, lynch BM and if he flips red, lynch bugs for calling him mafia but refusing with all his guys to lynch Bill
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On June 10 2015 07:48 Kickstart wrote:
so now im your top scum read along with lurkers? rofl
i didnt say you were my top scum read, i said i would be ok lynching you
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On June 10 2015 07:43 FreezingFoot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:39 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 10 2015 07:37 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 10 2015 07:33 Kickstart wrote:
foot that makes no sense. If he is scum he would shut the fuck up and not give too much info. ESPECIALLY IF NO OTHER SCUM ARE ON HIM TO LAST MINUTE MOVE OFF. But that may or may not be the case. Anways I find his lack of giving us stuff to work with scummy (why I voted him) now that he is still not giving anything when he is set to be lynched seems even scummier to me. Maybe that is how he plays, but I find it odd and I would do the opposite. Dude look how carelessly every other lurkers parked their vote on LS. Look how easily his wagon was formed in the end of the day. It is OBVIOUS this is a mislynch. Look how HARD it is to get Bill lynched EVEN when EVERYTHING he does is scummy. I find hard to believe a scum would let himself get lynched instead of fighting that lynch into someone else. I find easier to a town to just get enough of a game and simply don't give a fuck anymore, since everything he says is turning against him, anyway. Really? Other lurkers also parked their votes on stutters. And on BM at times too! Also how do you get that expectation from this dude? Emotionally I don't get that impression from LS. Even if he did, wouldn't he provide a scumread at some point? Do you think LS's town play is so weak that he is incapable of coming up with ONE scumread in 48 hours? At various times over the past two days I've skimmed like half of his town games, and in none of them do I see a situation where he has absolutely no scumreads whatsoever. He doesn't appear to me the type of player who is wildly afraid of putting their finger of suspicion on someone like he is this game and in other games in which he has turned up scum. LS in game of thrones mafia played similarly and got mislynched by town Holyflare who made a very convincing case on him. This IS how LS plays. If you think BM plays suboptimally regardless of alignment, if you ACTUALLY read LS's town games, you would KNOW this is his usual gameplay. It's as suboptimally as BM's. Why the double standards?
This is not GoT mafia, and I actually read that game and completely disagree. I would have read him as town that game simply because of posts like these:
On April 17 2015 05:10 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 04:51 GlowingBear wrote:
OH GEEZ UHM ACTUALLY
It's not a Mafia qt it's a, uh, "special obs qt" lies. You and Artanis Mafia now who is your unnamed partner?
On April 17 2015 09:55 LightningStrike wrote:You're mafia. Otherwise I would just policy lynch sicklucker Day 3 out 
On April 17 2015 10:51 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 10:39 sicklucker wrote:
ls has not tried to read me for like 9 games now. whatever hes pretty scummy I do it just much later in the game and we were scum together in Guardians you know I hate playing scum and very happy I rolled town for the first time since XXX.....................................................
He admits he's happy he rolled town (which we know is true BECAUSE HE FLIPPED TOWN) which means he would put in effort as town.
He's not putting jack shit in for effort here in this game.
On April 17 2015 10:55 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 08:51 GlowingBear wrote:On April 17 2015 02:21 sicklucker wrote:
Guys I got an idea. Lets lynch artanis unless he proves hes town. Because a scum artanis will roll over and die!
artanis[xp]
This is sort of revenge for when you left me as a solo mafia one game ;p I didn't like this post because it sounded very forced and it is useless when he started to inquire WoS for talking about unrelated and not game-solving focused posting. Feels like an unsuccessful effort to appear natural On April 17 2015 07:26 sicklucker wrote:
I think its terrible. Ill just vote gb because hes being a prick and voting a town and ill probably never figure him out Uncalled for, Unreasonable justification just to call himself a town. Uncharacteristic since his common town stance is "leave it to me, I've got all figured out!" On April 17 2015 08:17 sicklucker wrote:
im just happy to omgus untill one of us are dead. Makes the game more enjoyable to me Unreasonable ranting, specially towards a game that is slow but nothing bad to call it terrible and to omgus for fun. Just an excuse to vote. Conclusion: SL is Mafia Sicklucker can do your 2nd point regarding the "leave it to me I got all figured out" as both alignments. Point #1 was regarding Student VI when both Artanis and Sicklucker rolled scum together and Artanis gave up Day 2 idk how it seems forced? 3rd point yeah it might be unreasonable ranting but I kinda hate how slow the game is. I think it's easier to read sicklucker as either alignment around Day 2 to Day 3 area when it becomes painfully obvious when he's scum.
Look at how specific he is in these responses. There is no vagueness, and the tone is confident. He points out how he thinks sicklucker is wrong on a particular point, and he provides specific reasoning as to his opinions.
Compare that to this shit:
On June 09 2015 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:Okay bugs is totes town he got very similar formatting and stuff to his latest town games to his scum games and his line of questioning to FreezingFoot is also similar how did his line of questioning in his town games. Also Bugs I do tend to do that hey I will be back later stuff a lot regardless of my alignment Also I truly was bored on the smurf debate mainly because it isn't exactly important to know who the smurf is although would be helpful for meta purposes :o Now that the game isn't focused on the great smurf debate I also got a meta read on bats being town he always a interesting person I just hope he doesn't lynch himself again :O Onegu haven't done much so null on him meta wise.
there's no specificity here. His responses to other players are also very similar in tone and style.
Also when LS is about to die in GoT here's his response
On April 18 2015 07:15 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW I wont be posting for the rest of the day phase it just bullshit I going to get lynched because Unholyflare got a case on me when noone else brought a case on someone being scum.
He calls it bullshit.
He has emotion here, and it has clearly escalated.
And this as well:
On April 18 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 07:10 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2015 07:07 LightningStrike wrote:On April 18 2015 07:05 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2015 07:00 LightningStrike wrote:On April 18 2015 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
guaewgwehugewhgujwehew LS IS DEFENDING ANOTHER PERSON GUYS You know I defend people regardless of my alignment had you forgotten how I play as Town? You say you're only going to use meta when it's 100% right yet you defend all of these afk people using meta when you have no idea whether it's true or not. Palmar fake claiming a role (he's 100% done this as mafia before, heavyweight championship (2 or 3?) being one of them, although at a different time and circumstance completely but regardless your meta read on him is incomplete and it's scummy that you just flat out use it to defend him when he hasn't really done much at all. Saying he's an "uncc'd blue" is silly since you've seen a plethora of people claim roles d1 as mafia. GB literally just did it last game (ongoing so w/e). It just looks like you have far too much information to defend all of these people. It looks like you're trying to be "TOO right" with it to the extent where you just only believe what you write and nothing to the contrary because you know their alignments. You do a lot of ONLY defending and not much pushing people who are scum. You use all of these metas to defend and none of the meta to attack. This can be seen when you show your list with like 6 null people on it and your 1 scum read is VA who has the exact same reason to be scum as all your people on your null list but is in fact in your scum list. It can also be seen with your GB read where you town read him but post hesitance in that read at the same time. You don't use meta to pick out these scum reads and null reads and say he does this as town or mafia or whatever. Only defending. If I get lynched you better flip Scum because your push on me reminding me of your push on 27ninjabunnies in Carol............................................ On March 20 2015 01:06 LightningStrike wrote:On March 20 2015 01:00 rsoultin wrote:On March 20 2015 00:59 rsoultin wrote:On March 19 2015 23:48 LightningStrike wrote:Also rsoultin! + Show Spoiler +I added you on LoL on my Level 6 smurf on NA fyi + Show Spoiler +what was the name?  me and my lazy week lol i'll prob be playing today ^^ nvm found it ^^ hey, LS, i think this time you should sheep me, boyo  also, totes not important but since you asked, eden, yes we've discussed my age before xP 26 + Show Spoiler + I willing to sheep HF but if Rayn flips town it might go full Carol O_o On March 21 2015 21:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I woke up. Holyflare it's because I was townreading Bill despite his short filter but I liked some of his stuff esp his questions towards Eden when he was here. The fact that you were so certain he was scum kinda reminds me of our time in Carol when you thought 27ninjabunnies was Mafia when she was a Miller that game and was lackluster after that lynch. Also when I said it had be 1 at least 1 of you 3 being Mafia you don't look as bad as Rayn and Palmar esp because of their switches to BM esp they weren't giving much reasons to switch. On March 21 2015 22:10 LightningStrike wrote:On March 21 2015 21:55 Holyflare wrote:On March 21 2015 21:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I woke up. Holyflare it's because I was townreading Bill despite his short filter but I liked some of his stuff esp his questions towards Eden when he was here. The fact that you were so certain he was scum kinda reminds me of our time in Carol when you thought 27ninjabunnies was Mafia when she was a Miller that game and was lackluster after that lynch. Also when I said it had be 1 at least 1 of you 3 being Mafia you don't look as bad as Rayn and Palmar esp because of their switches to BM esp they weren't giving much reasons to switch. if you thought this then why on earth did you ask me a question about why i wanted to lynch bm!?!?!?!? you should KNOW why i wanted to lynch bm if you think it looked like carol???????????????? I mean the way the lynch looked like the way 27Ninajabunnies lynch in Carol. Also you brought up that he was likely lurky Mafia and sometimes people just have a bad game and BM had a game here regardless of their pregame stuff. Please don't make it too easy. This is your filter in guardians when you were mafia and said the exact same stuff. Well be damned then just lynch me then.
You don't see any of that here, he just slinks off.
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On June 10 2015 07:48 FreezingFoot wrote:
Fuck this
After LS flips green, lynch BM and if he flips red, lynch bugs for calling him mafia but refusing with all his guys to lynch Bill
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So you are being willfully retarded opposed to accidentally being retarded? Noted.
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On June 10 2015 07:48 Kickstart wrote:
So you are being willfully retarded opposed to accidentally being retarded? Noted.
so you're being willfully a dick instead of accidentally being a dick? Noted.
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obviously your only choice is to take my opinion at face value, because I could certainly be under the effects of confirmation bias, especially since I knew his roles going into reading those posts. However I think the differences in tone, emotion, style, and specificity are enough for me to be confident that this is not his town game, even if he did get mislynched for what you think is a similar style. Sorry, but you're most likely just wrong.
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On June 10 2015 07:47 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:46 Kickstart wrote:
Bill don't tell who you vote to get powers. Christ. Mafia has 2 silver bullets they can use anytime to instakill ppl who got powers through the witchcraft votes. kickstart, you really think it isn't obvious WBG is going to get powers?
LOL LOOK AT THIS SHIT!!! AAAARGH
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On June 10 2015 07:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
obviously your only choice is to take my opinion at face value, because I could certainly be under the effects of confirmation bias, especially since I knew his roles going into reading those posts. However I think the differences in tone, emotion, style, and specificity are enough for me to be confident that this is not his town game, even if he did get mislynched for what you think is a similar style. Sorry, but you're most likely just wrong.
A toneread is better than an overall metaread, wouldn't you agree, WBG?
On June 10 2015 07:50 Kickstart wrote:
Indeed I am.
it's okay. I was just rxn testing you. I don't think you're scum.
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Anyways, if LS flips red we for sure kill into foots/bats. Foots would be best target, then a tossup between bill/bats I guess.
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On June 10 2015 07:50 FreezingFoot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:47 Bill Murray wrote:On June 10 2015 07:46 Kickstart wrote:
Bill don't tell who you vote to get powers. Christ. Mafia has 2 silver bullets they can use anytime to instakill ppl who got powers through the witchcraft votes. kickstart, you really think it isn't obvious WBG is going to get powers? LOL LOOK AT THIS SHIT!!! AAAARGH
what's your problem?
how is this unhelpful? explain.
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On June 10 2015 07:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
obviously your only choice is to take my opinion at face value, because I could certainly be under the effects of confirmation bias, especially since I knew his roles going into reading those posts. However I think the differences in tone, emotion, style, and specificity are enough for me to be confident that this is not his town game, even if he did get mislynched for what you think is a similar style. Sorry, but you're most likely just wrong.
Even if I'm wrong I am your greatest ally because I am HARD DEFENDING him with reckless abandon and willing to lynch ANYONE in his place.
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On June 10 2015 07:45 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
also at various points in this game I have disagreed with basically everyone. In particular, Kickstart.
Yet, I don't think he is scum. How do you explain that, bats? I don't know what you're talking about here you will have explain better if this isn't just some weird rhetoric.
On June 10 2015 07:39 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
god damn
it's hard to tell whether FF/bats just have cold feet/legitimately believe what they are saying or whether one or both of them is scum here
I prefer bats' approach but FF's response seems fishy Dude your last <large number> posts are just repeating the same thing and flinging scum on anyone who disagrees with you. Your case on LS is much weaker than everything yamato said. If anyone is voting LS for anything you said then they are voting for bad reasons. You need to check yourself out of the confirmation bias mode.
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On June 10 2015 07:51 Kickstart wrote:
Anyways, if LS flips red we for sure kill into foots/bats. Foots would be best target, then a tossup between bill/bats I guess.
Why me?
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actually it is pretty problematic if I get powers because that means I'm going to get vigged and I can't do anything about it
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On June 10 2015 07:51 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:45 batsnacks wrote:On June 10 2015 07:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
also at various points in this game I have disagreed with basically everyone. In particular, Kickstart.
Yet, I don't think he is scum. How do you explain that, bats? I don't know what you're talking about here you will have explain better if this isn't just some weird rhetoric. Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:39 batsnacks wrote:On June 10 2015 07:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
god damn
it's hard to tell whether FF/bats just have cold feet/legitimately believe what they are saying or whether one or both of them is scum here
I prefer bats' approach but FF's response seems fishy Dude your last <large number> posts are just repeating the same thing and flinging scum on anyone who disagrees with you. Your case on LS is much weaker than everything yamato said. If anyone is voting LS for anything you said then they are voting for bad reasons. You need to check yourself out of the confirmation bias mode.
Oh that, yeah, I was just being dramatic.
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