EPTOn June 10 2015 06:50 batsnacks wrote:
foots said I could be mafia with BM.
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On June 10 2015 06:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
If no one was questioning if bats was town what the fuck is the point of saying he's town
On June 10 2015 06:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Ugh was anyone questioning if Bats was town? Hint there wasn't. I usually like to put my vote on someone who I think are scum but unfortunately we just have a bunch of lurkers so it better to shoot fish a in barrel on this lynch. Also on my vote on Shock I intially thought he could be scum but then read his meta and discovered he at best would be a policy lynch since he haven't posted much but his large posts looked better on second look. Also at the time you haven't posted much but I do think you're town just wrong on my alignment though
On June 10 2015 06:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, done throwing a tantrum and I'm going to play to my win condition now. Before I move on, though, one thing is clear:
LS IS STILL THE BEST LYNCH. We need to consolidate quickly or we risk no-lynching. Possibly worse, we risk lynching into a player who hasn't even done anything yet, on pure policy. Yes, lurkers are bad. Yes, lynching lurkers is nice, but ONLY when you have no decent alternative.
This game is actually not as bad as ones I've been in before, given that BM is BM and probably scum anyway, and he's the major reason this game sucks (because there happen to be some people who somehow agree with his shit logic)
To give you an idea of what you are sheeping if you agree with BM, just take a look at this gem:
anyway there's not much else to say about BM other than he's probably one of the bottom 3 players on this forum regardless of this alignment, and of all the talk of policy lynching in this game is probably the only player who is consistently worthy of one. From my recollection his town play is actually not this cringy so perhaps I am being a little overzealous here, but I do not ever recall a time where I found BM adequately established his own innocence or provided anything useful in terms of scumhunting. Let's leave it at that-I doubt that anyone is willing to lynch BM today but we'll need to lynch him to win the game eventually.
As for why LS is still the best lynch for today:
1. LS continues to exhibit one of the most classic scum traits. A lack of effort, even under pressure.
To give you an idea, his "meta case" on me being town was completely inaccurate. Here are the things he said:
Jesus, can this be more obvious? Look how many words he uses to say almost completely worthless things. Who cares if LS has town reads? They are not even substantiated by anything. Which questions did I ask of other players in previous games? How is my formatting similar, and what the hell does that have to do with alignment? Which games of mine did he read and why does he not provide concrete examples here?
Another good question to ask would be why he never mentions yamato or tries to convince people to vote yamato after voting yamato himself. In his town games LS generally tends to do this. He asks other people about the reads he has at that moment, just like any other townie would do. Instead, LS quickly moves off yamato after yamato enters the thread (and until yamato entered the thread LS made no effort to convince anyone of his supposed read, which had to be one of the meekest things I've ever seen)
The part that proves LS is full of shit is this post:
I am NOT lurky as scum. I am far from it, and some of my most post-heavy games have been as scum. I am constantly on the attack and I lead lynches as either alignment. I also make cases regardless of alignment. Look at Storm Mafia, Mini Mafia X, My Little Pony, Couples Therapy, Arkham City or Space Station and tell me in which of those games I lurked. In fact, I don't think I've ever lurked when playing mafia on this forum.
Again, meekness. Look at how little LS wants to strike a confrontation with someone.
This is so obvious in his vote patterns too. Votes someone, then completely backs off almost immediately at the first sign of resistance.
Can anyone tell me what LS's opinions are this game? Can you tell me, based on those opinions, what the reasons are?
Who does LS think is scum and who has LS actually pushed? I certainly can't answer any of these questions without reading LS's posts, and every time I read them I discover gems like these:
A constant barrage of worry from LS about where his vote's going to end up.
The scum translation of this is: "Hey guys I'm totally not scum so when this dude ends up flipping town please don't blame me, this is my warning to you that I actually don't have a really good reason for voting this dude but I'm going to do it anyway because I have to and please don't hurt me after"
just kill him
alright, done throwing a tantrum and I'm going to play to my win condition now. Before I move on, though, one thing is clear:
LS IS STILL THE BEST LYNCH. We need to consolidate quickly or we risk no-lynching. Possibly worse, we risk lynching into a player who hasn't even done anything yet, on pure policy. Yes, lurkers are bad. Yes, lynching lurkers is nice, but ONLY when you have no decent alternative.
This game is actually not as bad as ones I've been in before, given that BM is BM and probably scum anyway, and he's the major reason this game sucks (because there happen to be some people who somehow agree with his shit logic)
To give you an idea of what you are sheeping if you agree with BM, just take a look at this gem:
On June 08 2015 15:47 Bill Murray wrote:
ad hominem is a logical fallacy and indicative of scum
On June 08 2015 15:18 FreezingFoot wrote:
Can you explain this?
On June 08 2015 15:01 Bill Murray wrote:
##unvote
##vote: WBG
##unvote
##vote: WBG
Can you explain this?
ad hominem is a logical fallacy and indicative of scum
On June 09 2015 12:06 Bill Murray wrote:
you're an idiot
On June 09 2015 11:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Bugs I think activity will pick up soon don't rage quit like that and I also think your town :o
Bugs I think activity will pick up soon don't rage quit like that and I also think your town :o
you're an idiot
anyway there's not much else to say about BM other than he's probably one of the bottom 3 players on this forum regardless of this alignment, and of all the talk of policy lynching in this game is probably the only player who is consistently worthy of one. From my recollection his town play is actually not this cringy so perhaps I am being a little overzealous here, but I do not ever recall a time where I found BM adequately established his own innocence or provided anything useful in terms of scumhunting. Let's leave it at that-I doubt that anyone is willing to lynch BM today but we'll need to lynch him to win the game eventually.
As for why LS is still the best lynch for today:
1. LS continues to exhibit one of the most classic scum traits. A lack of effort, even under pressure.
To give you an idea, his "meta case" on me being town was completely inaccurate. Here are the things he said:
On June 09 2015 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay bugs is totes town he got very similar formatting and stuff to his latest town games to his scum games and his line of questioning to FreezingFoot is also similar how did his line of questioning in his town games. Also Bugs I do tend to do that hey I will be back later stuff a lot regardless of my alignment
Also I truly was bored on the smurf debate mainly because it isn't exactly important to know who the smurf is although would be helpful for meta purposes :o Now that the game isn't focused on the great smurf debate I also got a meta read on bats being town he always a interesting person I just hope he doesn't lynch himself again :O Onegu haven't done much so null on him meta wise.
Okay bugs is totes town he got very similar formatting and stuff to his latest town games to his scum games and his line of questioning to FreezingFoot is also similar how did his line of questioning in his town games. Also Bugs I do tend to do that hey I will be back later stuff a lot regardless of my alignment
Also I truly was bored on the smurf debate mainly because it isn't exactly important to know who the smurf is although would be helpful for meta purposes :o Now that the game isn't focused on the great smurf debate I also got a meta read on bats being town he always a interesting person I just hope he doesn't lynch himself again :O Onegu haven't done much so null on him meta wise.Jesus, can this be more obvious? Look how many words he uses to say almost completely worthless things. Who cares if LS has town reads? They are not even substantiated by anything. Which questions did I ask of other players in previous games? How is my formatting similar, and what the hell does that have to do with alignment? Which games of mine did he read and why does he not provide concrete examples here?
Another good question to ask would be why he never mentions yamato or tries to convince people to vote yamato after voting yamato himself. In his town games LS generally tends to do this. He asks other people about the reads he has at that moment, just like any other townie would do. Instead, LS quickly moves off yamato after yamato enters the thread (and until yamato entered the thread LS made no effort to convince anyone of his supposed read, which had to be one of the meekest things I've ever seen)
The part that proves LS is full of shit is this post:
On June 09 2015 22:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I back and will answer Breshke's question regarding WBG's meta: From my research he tends to be much more aggressive and more thoughtful as town than scum which demonstrated pretty damn well this game when he pressured FreezingFoot and made a case on me although he is wrong on my alignment since I know Town. As scum he tends to more lurky and not as thoughtful from what I can tell from the couple of games I had checked out from the database regarding his meta. Also @Onegu I didn't scumread you for not claiming VT I just only said you cashed in on claiming VT Day 1 as scum before(XXX) and everyone is VT by default since the Miller is not selfaware also there wasn't much stuff in the thread to work with? I got the following as Town:
WBG: Meta which I just explained.
FreezingFoot: His reaction to WBG seemed pretty townie and looked townie outside of it.
bats: Seems much more in line of his town meta compared to scum meta from my experience with him where the only time I played vs his scum he was I think a little bit more serious that game.
Breshke: He seemed much more focused this game and willing to ask questions more than his normal scum game which I manged to catch him before
BM: Although I think he's wrong on his meta read on WBG he did push it and he actually believes and looked townie for pushing someone who I think is Top Town.
The rest are Null just wish a couple of the people would start posting more
Okay I back and will answer Breshke's question regarding WBG's meta: From my research he tends to be much more aggressive and more thoughtful as town than scum which demonstrated pretty damn well this game when he pressured FreezingFoot and made a case on me although he is wrong on my alignment since I know Town. As scum he tends to more lurky and not as thoughtful from what I can tell from the couple of games I had checked out from the database regarding his meta. Also @Onegu I didn't scumread you for not claiming VT I just only said you cashed in on claiming VT Day 1 as scum before(XXX) and everyone is VT by default since the Miller is not selfaware also there wasn't much stuff in the thread to work with? I got the following as Town:
WBG: Meta which I just explained.
FreezingFoot: His reaction to WBG seemed pretty townie and looked townie outside of it.
bats: Seems much more in line of his town meta compared to scum meta from my experience with him where the only time I played vs his scum he was I think a little bit more serious that game.
Breshke: He seemed much more focused this game and willing to ask questions more than his normal scum game which I manged to catch him before
BM: Although I think he's wrong on his meta read on WBG he did push it and he actually believes and looked townie for pushing someone who I think is Top Town.
The rest are Null just wish a couple of the people would start posting more
I am NOT lurky as scum. I am far from it, and some of my most post-heavy games have been as scum. I am constantly on the attack and I lead lynches as either alignment. I also make cases regardless of alignment. Look at Storm Mafia, Mini Mafia X, My Little Pony, Couples Therapy, Arkham City or Space Station and tell me in which of those games I lurked. In fact, I don't think I've ever lurked when playing mafia on this forum.
On June 10 2015 03:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and got a question:
Maybe one of the lurkers because the game is pretty inactive and there might be potential mafia in there as much I hate policy lynching lurkers it might be out best shot hitting scum :\
I just got home and got a question:
On June 10 2015 00:41 batsnacks wrote:
Who are you lynching today LS? You need to convince 7 people...
Who are you lynching today LS? You need to convince 7 people...
Maybe one of the lurkers because the game is pretty inactive and there might be potential mafia in there as much I hate policy lynching lurkers it might be out best shot hitting scum :\
Again, meekness. Look at how little LS wants to strike a confrontation with someone.
This is so obvious in his vote patterns too. Votes someone, then completely backs off almost immediately at the first sign of resistance.
Can anyone tell me what LS's opinions are this game? Can you tell me, based on those opinions, what the reasons are?
Who does LS think is scum and who has LS actually pushed? I certainly can't answer any of these questions without reading LS's posts, and every time I read them I discover gems like these:
On June 10 2015 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly despite the fact I know how to read Stutters he prob the best lynch even it's on policy and I hope he picks up before EoD so I can get a better tell on him. Just a reminder this just on pure policy from me and I normally don't do that but it prob the best place to put my vote in my opinion for now.
##Vote: Stutters
Honestly despite the fact I know how to read Stutters he prob the best lynch even it's on policy and I hope he picks up before EoD so I can get a better tell on him. Just a reminder this just on pure policy from me and I normally don't do that but it prob the best place to put my vote in my opinion for now.
##Vote: Stutters
A constant barrage of worry from LS about where his vote's going to end up.
The scum translation of this is: "Hey guys I'm totally not scum so when this dude ends up flipping town please don't blame me, this is my warning to you that I actually don't have a really good reason for voting this dude but I'm going to do it anyway because I have to and please don't hurt me after"
just kill him
Ugh was anyone questioning if Bats was town? Hint there wasn't. I usually like to put my vote on someone who I think are scum but unfortunately we just have a bunch of lurkers so it better to shoot fish a in barrel on this lynch. Also on my vote on Shock I intially thought he could be scum but then read his meta and discovered he at best would be a policy lynch since he haven't posted much but his large posts looked better on second look. Also at the time you haven't posted much but I do think you're town just wrong on my alignment though
If no one was questioning if bats was town what the fuck is the point of saying he's town
foots said I could be mafia with BM.
Aren't Associative reads bad?
