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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 20:55 GMT
#1237
shining can you answer my question please

why did you say this

On June 11 2015 15:53 The Shining wrote:
No, I'm mad that you said you'd kill me for it, when Onegu and Shockeyy are also players under the radar and not playing how I've seen them play before. Inconsistency. And when have I ever been OK with being scummed or lynched as town? Like bugs brings me up as this "missing link" and now out of all the players, you're okay saying you would kill me. And you said that either after you read my filter and thought my EoD was towny so you want to kill someone with towny points, or before you read my filter, which is a very bold statement and horrible town play if you were willing to kill me before even reading.

So which was it?


when have you played with/seen shockeyy play
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:02 GMT
#1241
On June 12 2015 05:58 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 05:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
shining can you answer my question please

why did you say this

On June 11 2015 15:53 The Shining wrote:
No, I'm mad that you said you'd kill me for it, when Onegu and Shockeyy are also players under the radar and not playing how I've seen them play before. Inconsistency. And when have I ever been OK with being scummed or lynched as town? Like bugs brings me up as this "missing link" and now out of all the players, you're okay saying you would kill me. And you said that either after you read my filter and thought my EoD was towny so you want to kill someone with towny points, or before you read my filter, which is a very bold statement and horrible town play if you were willing to kill me before even reading.

So which was it?


when have you played with/seen shockeyy play

shockey played in generic boring mini


ah yes, that explains a lot

see this is why I ask people for their past games
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:09 GMT
#1247
I originally voted

batsnacks
Kickstart
Breske

switched Kickstart to yamato

I didn't realize order mattered till BH's FAQ post
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:15 GMT
#1248
if yamato is wrong we just lynch him ezpz. Like no mafia would ever do what yamato just did, the claim makes no sense from scum perspective. It's a 1 for 1 trade that heavily favours town.

so we can safely assume BM is scum and he's not even bothering to defend himself at this point. The only purpose that would serve would be to shit up the thread and there is literally no defense that will keep him alive so whatever. Waste of time/effort on his part so it's no surprise.

The last scum can be one of only 4 players IMO, in order of decreasing likelihood:

Shockeyy
Tubesock
Shining
Onegu


We lynch straight down that list and we probably win the game
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:17 GMT
#1249
also we only get 2 witchcraft votes today
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:25 GMT
#1251
On June 12 2015 06:21 Breshke wrote:
Even easier WBG we split that list in half.

Two of those players plus another two players vote for player A in their one slot witchcraft vote. Then put player C as their second vote these guys vote first so player A reaches 4 votes first

Then the remaining two scumspects plus the remaining three players vote player B in their one slot plus player C in their two slot.

So player A has 4 and B has 5 if scum is on A then b gets elected if scum is on B then A gets elected cos they got 4 first.

Both PRs can then blaspheme into this group and even if one does we probably win the game tomorrow.

Does this make sense it's 7 am for me so it might not


yeah I'm trying to figure out a voting plan that would do as you describe.

The problem is that if you end up with 1 scum in each of the two then you end up with even votes...but that's probably okay because we can just alternate lynch.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:26 GMT
#1253
oh yeah also blaspheme is now the best role lol
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:26 GMT
#1254
ah yeah derp I'm retarded
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:26 GMT
#1255
dunno why I was including BM in the list of players. # of players discounting BM is 9.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:35 GMT
#1258
9 players, 2 are scum ->

Let's say we do a vote split like this. Take Yamato out because he's basically confirmed town and that gives us an even number.

List A: WBG, Shining, Tube, Breske vote YAMATO, BATS - > should result in 4 votes on yamato/bats
List B: Onegu, Shockeyy, bats, FF vote WBG, BRESKE - > should result in 4 votes on wbg/breske

If Yamato, Bats get elected scum is in list B
If WBG, Breske get elected scum is in list A

Yamato should vote for FF/Onegu or something and waste the vote so we have 8 people
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:35 GMT
#1259
On June 12 2015 06:29 Breshke wrote:
WBG how did you not die? Are you not a PR or was there normal kp on you?


I am not a power role. There are 2 ways I could've lived

1. They used the Witch Hunter KP on me, and it missed
2. I ate the normal KP and someone protted me.

We can't tell the difference cause there is no RB.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:36 GMT
#1260
notification, that is
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:37 GMT
#1262
I meant 9 players, 1 is scum

god I can't count
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:40 GMT
#1264
On June 12 2015 06:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
9 players, 2 are scum ->

Let's say we do a vote split like this. Take Yamato out because he's basically confirmed town and that gives us an even number.

List A: WBG, Shining, Tube, Breske vote YAMATO, BATS - > should result in 4 votes on yamato/bats
List B: Onegu, Shockeyy, bats, FF vote WBG, BRESKE - > should result in 4 votes on wbg/breske

If Yamato, Bats get elected scum is in list B
If WBG, Breske get elected scum is in list A

Yamato should vote for FF/Onegu or something and waste the vote so we have 8 people


thoughts on this please. Let's coordinate the votes today

The players who get voted will basically confirm the voters as townies. So for example if me/Breske get elected then
Onegu/Shockeyy/bats/FF are all confirmed

if yamato/bats get elected then it confirms myself, Shining, Tube, and Breske

It would also confirm the people getting voted for, which would leave only 2 candidates on each side to be scum
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:47 GMT
#1270
On June 12 2015 06:43 batsnacks wrote:
I appear to be in both lists. Would you guys like me to make the plan? lol


you're not in both lists. read again. your vote goes on WBG/Breske
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:48 GMT
#1272
On June 12 2015 06:43 Onegu wrote:
Dont understand


each side is supposed to get 4 votes. If one of the sides gets 3 votes, then we know in the list of voters that one of them had to be scum.

We split the 4 scum candidates into groups of 2 and put them on opposite sides. The result is that this plan will autoconfirm four townies at once. Since yamato is already basically confirmed that means by beginning of d3 we will have 5 confirmed townies (although one of them might be dead)

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:52 GMT
#1275
btw the following day we could repeat the plan and just move the players around. e.g. say we figured the scum had to be in List B. We know one of Shockeyy/Onegu is almost certainly mafia, we just lynch one and dump the other one onto a voting list with 2-3 confirmed townies (depending on how many players are alive). Then that would confirm them as scum if the opposite list ended up winning (and we can move some of the other players around a bit too)



wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:52 GMT
#1276
On June 12 2015 06:51 Onegu wrote:
What if lets say you and breshke are scum and we get wrecked by this???


how the fuck can me and breshke both be scum if BM is scum
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:56 GMT
#1282
like either way we'll know.

we'll know because mafia cannot kill 3 people, which is the number they need to kill for us to not know who got elected.

If I am scum and I kill Breske, then Yamato/Bats will know they weren't elected and will be alive tomorrow. If Bats is scum and kills yamato, myself and Breske will know we were not elected.

Pretty simple to understand. Yes, if me/breske get elected, any one of us 4 (WBG, Breske, Shining Tube) could be scum but the far more likely answer is that 1 out of 2 of Shining and Tube is scum.

That occurs while FOUR townies get autoconfirmed. Scum can't win that shit because every day we can confirm more townies through the proper voting pattern.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 21:56 GMT
#1284
On June 12 2015 06:54 Onegu wrote:
BM hasnt flipped yet.


so what? are you saying that yamato is lying?

BM hasn't flipped but one of him or yamato has to be scum
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