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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 07 2015 16:06 GMT
#1341
Hey guys, I'm taking a break from work to catch up. I saw some further questions for me, so I'll get to them now.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 07 2015 16:10 GMT
#1342
On June 08 2015 00:17 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
It will pretty much legitimize how incompetent the vast majority of you are.

Like what is the point of this? Let's suppose you're town and you ARE right for a moment - who cares post-game? It doesn't matter how right you were during the game, all you did was cry about how stupid everyone is and give up, so no one gives a shit whether you're right or not. And they won't next game either if you're town this game, because your reasoning doesn't make sense this game and you're not convincing.

If you're town you need to take a step back and come at this game from another angle. Stop getting mad about it and try and figure it out - I realize that you think you have it figured out now, but I'm not mafia and you're putting all your money on it. Which is actually hilarious because up until halfway through this phase, you staunchly asserted that you had NO read on me and that NOTHING I've done, with Chocolate or otherwise, is alignment indicative. And you wonder why people are reading you mafia.

Grow up Templar. Or hang because you're mafia. Those are your options.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 16:14 GMT
#1343
On June 08 2015 00:59 Damdred wrote:
Yeah I really don't care if we lynch Gg and he's town he is a cancer to the thread.

I really doubt he is mafia but I won't cry if he dies. He says he reevaluated but you haven't. You have funneled on tick and have barely interacted with him. His activity push on you actually looks good. Plus his willingness to look at people again and again looks good. He could be Scum I suppose having an amazing game foe him,but he isn't the lynch today.

So let's talk about something else whoever is here.

Shen tell me why you hate chocolate at eod so,much.


Let me pull up the quotes I made earlier.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 07 2015 16:17 GMT
#1344
Damdred just look at what Chocolate says about why he is voting for me EoD1. After he comes to this "realization" that he's just OMGUSing me and that I may be town or whatever, he KEEPS voting for me because "he doesn't have any other mafia reads" and when he DOES finally vote for Kickstart (because he's the only other realistic wagon) he EVEN SAYS that it's just to save his life. He NEVER had any mafia reads during D1, and I think that he AS mafia just didn't want to piss anyone off.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 16:20 GMT
#1345
On June 08 2015 00:59 Damdred wrote:
Shen tell me why you hate chocolate at eod so,much.


Alright, so these are massive quotes, so instead I'm going to just link you to the posts I made.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486008-holy-guardians-chapter-1?page=61#1213
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486008-holy-guardians-chapter-1?page=61#1216
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486008-holy-guardians-chapter-1?page=61#1220

Basically his case on KS is just awful, the scumread on KS is horribly contrived (second post) and I illustrated how it was so. The way he frames his case on KS is basically that no matter how he answers, he's mafia. I think in English it's called a loaded question or a loaded answer but you'll know what I mean when you read the second post I made.

The other real problem I have is that both needed to vote each other for survival yet Choco contends that the latter was scummy for doing so himself or he said he was bandwagoning on him. His responses to KS (third post) were mediocre at best. But those three posts should detail the contentions I have.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 07 2015 16:21 GMT
#1346
Shendel, you mentioned that I haven't evaluated my reads. The problem is, no one is pressuring my scum list. They haven't had to prove themselves.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 16:23 GMT
#1347
On June 08 2015 01:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Damdred just look at what Chocolate says about why he is voting for me EoD1. After he comes to this "realization" that he's just OMGUSing me and that I may be town or whatever, he KEEPS voting for me because "he doesn't have any other mafia reads" and when he DOES finally vote for Kickstart (because he's the only other realistic wagon) he EVEN SAYS that it's just to save his life. He NEVER had any mafia reads during D1, and I think that he AS mafia just didn't want to piss anyone off.


I completely forgot the OMGUS on VE, and yeah, that still makes him look worse.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 07 2015 16:23 GMT
#1348
On June 05 2015 05:18 Chocolate wrote:
I'm trying not to die

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 16:25 GMT
#1349
On June 08 2015 01:21 milo109 wrote:
Shendel, you mentioned that I haven't evaluated my reads. The problem is, no one is pressuring my scum list. They haven't had to prove themselves.


You're in thread with Damdred and VE, who are presumably two of your scum reads. (If they aren't then who is? Tic? I just know your list is similar to Templar's.)

You still think they are both scum by the way they are in this thread? And if no one is pressuring your scumreads then why aren't you? Obviously you think something is off with them.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 07 2015 16:25 GMT
#1350
He and Templar both have tried to seed this "VE is a bully" sentiment. Maybe it's just how I accuse people, I don't know, but obviously to me I'm town and I know that it's not intentional, so to me it looks like they're pushing an agenda.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 16:26 GMT
#1351
Edit - at Milo - "you still think Damdred and VE are both scum by the way they are in this thread right now?"
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 07 2015 16:28 GMT
#1352
On June 08 2015 01:21 milo109 wrote:
Shendel, you mentioned that I haven't evaluated my reads. The problem is, no one is pressuring my scum list. They haven't had to prove themselves.

I prove myself with every single post I make. If you have a specific problem with anything I've posted, I invite you to explain why so I can either explain myself or explain why you're mistaken.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 16:29 GMT
#1353
On June 08 2015 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
He and Templar both have tried to seed this "VE is a bully" sentiment. Maybe it's just how I accuse people, I don't know, but obviously to me I'm town and I know that it's not intentional, so to me it looks like they're pushing an agenda.


Well I know Milo is trying to compare you now to how you are in video mafia, and since I know little on the difference, I'm just surprised he's only looking at your tone, selectively looking at your tone without considering anything else you're posting. I don't know if that's how people play in video mafia, apparently Templar says it isn't but regardless he's not being helpful at best by not re-evaluating things.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 16:30 GMT
#1354
For the recond I've only played forum mafia, never played video mafia or voice, if that's a thing.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 16:32 GMT
#1355
I see Milo has voted Damdred though. Hmmm.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 07 2015 16:32 GMT
#1356
On June 08 2015 01:29 Shendelzare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
He and Templar both have tried to seed this "VE is a bully" sentiment. Maybe it's just how I accuse people, I don't know, but obviously to me I'm town and I know that it's not intentional, so to me it looks like they're pushing an agenda.


Well I know Milo is trying to compare you now to how you are in video mafia, and since I know little on the difference, I'm just surprised he's only looking at your tone, selectively looking at your tone without considering anything else you're posting. I don't know if that's how people play in video mafia, apparently Templar says it isn't but regardless he's not being helpful at best by not re-evaluating things.

I haven't even played video mafia in months, I don't know why ANYONE thinks they even have a read on my video play. I've played one time in the last maybe 3 months.

Anyway, I welcome anyone to scrutinize my posting. GGTemplar would LOVE for you guys to scrutinize my posting, and I agree with him wholeheartedly on at least that.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 16:33 GMT
#1357
Damdred, do you still have the same problem with NHM now you did before? She hasn't posted that much, but I thought her last 1-2 posts made her look better. You don't think so?
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 07 2015 16:38 GMT
#1358
On June 08 2015 01:26 Shendelzare wrote:
Edit - at Milo - "you still think Damdred and VE are both scum by the way they are in this thread right now?"

Yes.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 16:48 GMT
#1359
On June 08 2015 01:38 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 01:26 Shendelzare wrote:
Edit - at Milo - "you still think Damdred and VE are both scum by the way they are in this thread right now?"

Yes.


Is your problem with VE still primarily tone? He argues you can't have a good read on him if you are using his video mafia experience to read him.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 16:50 GMT
#1360
So what I'm trying to ask you - and VE is doing the same - ignore his tone. Do you have a problem with his case on Templar? Do you see a flaw that you think hurts the cases or makes him mafia? That is what I am trying to drive at.
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