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Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 16:53 GMT
#1361
Like I did that with Chocolate but that's maybe another angle you might need to look at.

I need to get dinner in any case.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 07 2015 17:04 GMT
#1362
Alright. I looked through VE's filter again, and it's possible I'm wrong on him. I either missed some posts or forgot them because I was not very coherent last night. I -still- think Templar is town though. I feel like he is seeing the game from the same perspective that I am.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 07 2015 17:08 GMT
#1363
Re Chocolate

Why did I like Chocolate at eod 1? My recollection of it was that I found his posts very genuine. He seemed honestly frustrated by everything. Then again, since this is forum mafia it's perfectly easy for someone to write something that sounds genuine, but is actually fake. His reads across the entire game are totally all over the place. He had me at the bottom of one of his lists (most town), but then later said that he thought that me and milo were on a team with GGT. That's weird because I think milo is basically the closest thing we have to a confirmed town in the game (and I'm basing this mostly of ritoky being convinced milo is town, and the fact that we know ritoky is town). Also I know I'm town, and I don't think I've done anything really that would mean I should be that closely associated to GGT (although going through GGT's filter, I see that he's got a pretty strong town read on me).

Honestly at this point, he isn't contributing much. Then again, I could say the same about quite a few people here (VE and Damdred aren't saying much, really, and Onegu still hasn't started really contributing, save for 'coming out' as having been pursuing some sort of eclectic sounding theory).

Re GGT

By "changing it up", I meant that he had stopped just wildly labelling everyone as town and had started posting more substantively. Looking over his filter now though, I see that happened earlier than I'd thought.

The thing that stands out most to me about GGT is that his reads are very similar to mine. He has Tick Tock as his number one mafia, and he also has Scott on the list. His third one seems to be Damdred, and this is making more and more sense to me. Damdred and VE have both played pretty similarly, honestly. Both led D1 lynches and both make lots of short posts that are more based on discourse than analysis.

I'm also going to say that I think Shen is probably town. His activity has blown everyone else's away thus far, and his style of combining questions with analysis is very townie to me. It feels similar to how ritoky was doing it, and it's also in my view the most helpful town style.

Anyway, after the KS debacle I'm going to get my vote in earlier this time. I'm going to go for TT. I note that he hasn't responded at all to my WOT earlier about him and Scott. I haven't heard or seen anything to change my mind. Scott, to me, is very slightly stronger mafia read to me, but that doesn't seem like it's going to happen today.

##Vote Ticktock
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 07 2015 17:10 GMT
#1364
Onegu, could I ask what else you think about Damdred, other than your Onegu rule thing?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 07 2015 17:12 GMT
#1365
Milo and I's posts just crossed, and I'm now starting to see why Chocolate said he thought milo, GGT and I were a team..
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 07 2015 17:18 GMT
#1366
Day 2 Vote Count

Shendelzare(0): Onegu
Chocolate(1): Tictock, NydusHerMain
Onegu(0): Scott, Damdred, NydusHerMain
Tictock(2): GGTemplar, GGTemplar, Fidei86
GGTemplar(5): VisceraEyes, Onegu, Tictock, Scott, Damdred, Shendelzare
VisceraEyes(0): GGTemplar
NydusHerMain(0): Damdred
Fidei86(1): Scott
Damdred(1): milo109

Not Voting (1):Chocolate

Currently, GGTemplar is set to be executed. Day 2 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is located here.
Posting after the deadline and before the flip will result in a modkill.
Failure to vote once will result in a warning.
Failure to vote twice will result in a modkill.

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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 07 2015 17:45 GMT
#1367
Lawl at me not saying much. We can agree to disagree there. LOL
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 07 2015 17:55 GMT
#1368
So Fidei doesn't look like is happening today -

I like almost every one voting for GG, that looks good
I don't know how to feel about Chocolate, his "give me two days I'm on vacation" excuse kind of sucks.
I'm not voting for Tictock and the votes on him are scummy

Choo Choo!
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 17:58 GMT
#1369
Well, Fidei, I don't agree at all on the Chocolate read but now I have a better sense of where you're coming from and you've demonstrated you have looked at other parts of his play.

Scott, you like "almost" everyone voting for Templar. Who don't you like? If Templar is mafia, who do you think is bussing?
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 17:59 GMT
#1370
Nothing has jumped out at me regarding Scott being mafia. Am I missing something? Is there something either of you can point me to?
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 07 2015 18:03 GMT
#1371
I think Damdred is bussing.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 07 2015 18:09 GMT
#1372
Damdred/GG/Fidei/Chocolate

I think they are in these four. Milo's play hasn't been splendid, but that unvote in day 1 is pretty telling - although I don't want him to just ride it and not do a whole lot.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 07 2015 18:12 GMT
#1373
I know the primary concern with Damdred from a few people was that he was middle of the road at least day one. I might have to look at that again to verify. On a first read, he didn't look bad at all.

For day two, he appeared to be reevaluating people but if he has a decent track record as mafia it could alternatively be a world where he's trying to hold out and see where people's opinions fall. That's a potential mafia world for Damdred. I don't think it makes him mafia. Not yet.

Last I checked, he wants to lynch NHM and Chocolate. But then he asks me why I want to lynch Chocolate. Could be for a number of reasons.

NHM has some points since he started pushing her, but I don't know whether if it's because he disagrees with her or if he still feels she's too inactive or what.

I'm also going to assume that if Damdred is a skilled mafia player (is he?) then he probably knows and has bussed teammates before. If that's a wrong assumption to make then someone say something.

I think Templar had Damdred on his scumlist. If they are both scum it means they are double bussing. I guess it's possible.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 07 2015 18:14 GMT
#1374
On June 08 2015 03:03 scott31337 wrote:
I think Damdred is bussing.


Honestly this is the first time someone has said this so far this game.

I disagree obviously I'm a bit aware of,my meta so it's not as strong. But when I bus I take a much more assertive tone and don't jump all over the place.

However I still don't know exactly why I'm Scum to people. This weird generic/middle of,the road complaint. Which I personally don't thunk is right considering I have given out multiple reads when people were using this.

Also IDK why someone said 've isn't saying anything...when he is.

I would lynch chocolate or Gg today.

Also I'm not sure shen, I need another night to look at him unless we kill me today obviously.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 07 2015 18:17 GMT
#1375
He bussed his whole team in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480965-mafia-mini-mafia2-another-miniature-game-of-mafia?page=175#3485 and won - FYI
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 07 2015 18:18 GMT
#1376
On June 08 2015 03:12 Shendelzare wrote:
I know the primary concern with Damdred from a few people was that he was middle of the road at least day one. I might have to look at that again to verify. On a first read, he didn't look bad at all.

For day two, he appeared to be reevaluating people but if he has a decent track record as mafia it could alternatively be a world where he's trying to hold out and see where people's opinions fall. That's a potential mafia world for Damdred. I don't think it makes him mafia. Not yet.

Last I checked, he wants to lynch NHM and Chocolate. But then he asks me why I want to lynch Chocolate. Could be for a number of reasons.

NHM has some points since he started pushing her, but I don't know whether if it's because he disagrees with her or if he still feels she's too inactive or what.

I'm also going to assume that if Damdred is a skilled mafia player (is he?) then he probably knows and has bussed teammates before. If that's a wrong assumption to make then someone say something.

I think Templar had Damdred on his scumlist. If they are both scum it means they are double bussing. I guess it's possible.


Meta wise I am known as a busser I don't soft bus I go evil keneval with my busses jumping over or crashing into app my partners to carry myself to victory!

But on a non ego stroking honesty way, I'm decent as Scum but rely on bus cred to much.

I'm better as town then Scum usually. Just is a hard game
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 07 2015 18:19 GMT
#1377
Also asked you about chocolate to try to get a better read on you.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 07 2015 18:28 GMT
#1378
Day 2 Vote Count

Shendelzare(0): Onegu
Chocolate(1): Tictock, NydusHerMain
Onegu(0): Scott, Damdred, NydusHerMain
Tictock(2): GGTemplar, GGTemplar, Fidei86
GGTemplar(6): VisceraEyes, Onegu, Tictock, Scott, Damdred, Shendelzare, Scott
VisceraEyes(0): GGTemplar
NydusHerMain(0): Damdred
Fidei86(0): Scott
Damdred(1): milo109

Not Voting (1):Chocolate

Currently, GGTemplar is set to be executed. Day 2 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is located here.
Posting after the deadline and before the flip will result in a modkill.
Failure to vote once will result in a warning.
Failure to vote twice will result in a modkill.
I'm adorable.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 07 2015 18:44 GMT
#1379
Actually after thinking about it I don't think milo is scum, you guys are right in that whatever he did at the end of the day is pretty indicative of alignment (though do recall he didn't actually change his vote)

Hopefully I have some time in the next few hours to make a vote, if not sorry
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 07 2015 19:49 GMT
#1380
Hmmmm so Scott explain all your scum reads please.
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