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Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 02 2015 21:08 GMT
#221
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 02 2015 21:08 GMT
#222
It seems some of you already know each other well, at least I gather that from the Tictock banter. Anyone care to give me some background? Who has played with each other before, who is good, why are there 2 votes immediatly on TT?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 02 2015 21:10 GMT
#223
@ Kick

It has always been my policy to deal with inactives by reading their actual posts that much harder.

The idea is that if they are only willing to share a small amount of thoughts or thinking then we should take those posts even more literally/seriously.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 02 2015 21:12 GMT
#224
On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


Lol it's D1, random votes are expected.

Today is my day off, and my mood has improved since i made those pre-game posts. So I can actually be around today and look for scum.
I can take that responsibility.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 02 2015 21:12 GMT
#225
On June 03 2015 06:02 Kickstart wrote:
I just want to go ahead and get this out.

A good town environment is one in which no one is allowed to lurk or be passive and not post much of their thoughts. While I honestly don't know any of the players in this game I believe some are new so to them and to everyone else, you have to post. Whether you are 100% sure in your reads or not, posting is good for town. Even if your reads are wrong, being active is good for town to figure out the game. I refuse to allow the game to be a passive one where several people are lurking and not being active and contributing to the conversation because that automatically makes the game harder on town and lessens town's win chance. The 10 post per cycle rule enacted by the host is a good first step but I think it is up to us to make sure that people don't abuse the rule by just posting the minimum number of times and saying nothing of substance.

Now what I said applies to every game of course, an active town is always better than a passive town with several lurkers; but I particularly wanted to lead in with this point because I already feel like we might be heading in the direction of a passive/inactive town. So this is directed to everyone but specifically directed @ Damdred and Tictock:

Damdred and Tictock already posted before the start of the game that they might not be active. Here are Dam's and TT's posts I am referring to:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 06:12 Damdred wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'll

/In

But will be hit and miss on activity

Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 12:51 Tictock wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
/confirm

Not very motivated atm, might pick up as the game goes on, we'll see

sorry


Thankfully they have both said that they are just sort of busy at the start but will have more time and be more active. I just want to urge them both to be as active as they can from the start, that way everyone can gets reads on them and we don't let them both through just because they aren't active in the first phase but might be in the phases after.

Just to be clear though, I am not accusing either of you nor am I suspicious of you for it, because those statements are clearly not alignment indicative because they were made before the game began and people had their roles. I am just saying that I refuse to allow the game to devolve into a passive town game with people lurking and posting nothing of substance and those events already have me worried that we may find ourselves in that position. So I urge you, along with everyone else, to be as active as you can, even if you are strapped for time.

Now that that is out of the way, could those who have played in games with some of the other people in the game (or if you know them) tell me who the strong players? I haven't played mafia on here since 2012 so I have no idea who the good players are and I think knowing this is helpful. I know this request seems a bit scummy ("Oh you wan't to know who the good players are so you can get rid of them!") but I will just concede that and say that knowing who is good tells everyone that those players:
a) should not be lurking because if they are good they are usually always active in their games (so if they are lurking and posting not much substance it will be suspicious),
and,
b) they would be valuable assets (so we should expect strong town play from them and we would expect mafia to try and get rid of them), both good pieces of information for town.

That is all I have for now, get to posting and being active everyone! :D


saw good town environment, stopped reading.

[image loading]
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 02 2015 21:13 GMT
#226
This is my first game so my name recognition isn't very high. I have played video mafia with some of the people in the thread, but I hear forum mafia is quite different. As for the votes on Ticktok, I think it's just an attempt to stir something up. Don't think the they are alignment indicative.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 02 2015 21:17 GMT
#227
In regards to kicks question.

I am pretty new to TL forums. Have played in 2 of the newbie games (the 2 most recent ones, including the ongoing one).

I see a few familiar names, but most of you I don't know... and am HIGHLY suspicious of...

And of course I know SL, who I may have to ignore. I apologize in advance if I start tunneling him, I have a tendency to do that.
I can take that responsibility.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 02 2015 21:18 GMT
#228
On June 03 2015 06:08 Kickstart wrote:
It seems some of you already know each other well, at least I gather that from the Tictock banter. Anyone care to give me some background? Who has played with each other before, who is good, why are there 2 votes immediatly on TT?


Dandred is a good town. Ritoky might be a good mafia thats about it. onegu me and ve are regulars.

Scott and tictock are two new players in there first non newbie game. Was in two games with each second is ongoing so I cant really talk about it. In the first one tictock tunneled the hell out of me when I had solved the game and it was hella annoying.

A bunch of video mafia players I believe. I know milo/templar are maybe you?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 02 2015 21:19 GMT
#229
On June 03 2015 06:17 Tictock wrote:
In regards to kicks question.

I am pretty new to TL forums. Have played in 2 of the newbie games (the 2 most recent ones, including the ongoing one).

I see a few familiar names, but most of you I don't know... and am HIGHLY suspicious of...

And of course I know SL, who I may have to ignore. I apologize in advance if I start tunneling him, I have a tendency to do that.


[image loading]

y u so surs an shit?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 02 2015 21:20 GMT
#230
On June 03 2015 06:18 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 06:08 Kickstart wrote:
It seems some of you already know each other well, at least I gather that from the Tictock banter. Anyone care to give me some background? Who has played with each other before, who is good, why are there 2 votes immediatly on TT?


Dandred is a good town. Ritoky might be a good mafia thats about it. onegu me and ve are regulars.

Scott and tictock are two new players in there first non newbie game. Was in two games with each second is ongoing so I cant really talk about it. In the first one tictock tunneled the hell out of me when I had solved the game and it was hella annoying.

A bunch of video mafia players I believe. I know milo/templar are maybe you?


Yea kus SL def solves games on his own, def never has help from the rest of town...
I can take that responsibility.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 02 2015 21:24 GMT
#231
On June 03 2015 06:18 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 06:08 Kickstart wrote:
It seems some of you already know each other well, at least I gather that from the Tictock banter. Anyone care to give me some background? Who has played with each other before, who is good, why are there 2 votes immediatly on TT?


Ritoky might be a good mafia thats about it.


[image loading]
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 02 2015 21:24 GMT
#232
On June 03 2015 06:10 Tictock wrote:
@ Kick

It has always been my policy to deal with inactives by reading their actual posts that much harder.

The idea is that if they are only willing to share a small amount of thoughts or thinking then we should take those posts even more literally/seriously.


My point is that we need to foster an environment that doesn't allow inactivity, this is clearly the best environment to have and thus we should strive for it. How we will deal with people that are inactive anyways is another matter. Also people should, eventually, share most of their thoughts. Holding back your thoughts initially to build on them is fine, I already find some things scummy but I am waiting to add to this so as not to let the person/people I find scummy change what they are doing so soon.

On June 03 2015 06:12 ritoky wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 03 2015 06:02 Kickstart wrote:
I just want to go ahead and get this out.

A good town environment is one in which no one is allowed to lurk or be passive and not post much of their thoughts. While I honestly don't know any of the players in this game I believe some are new so to them and to everyone else, you have to post. Whether you are 100% sure in your reads or not, posting is good for town. Even if your reads are wrong, being active is good for town to figure out the game. I refuse to allow the game to be a passive one where several people are lurking and not being active and contributing to the conversation because that automatically makes the game harder on town and lessens town's win chance. The 10 post per cycle rule enacted by the host is a good first step but I think it is up to us to make sure that people don't abuse the rule by just posting the minimum number of times and saying nothing of substance.

Now what I said applies to every game of course, an active town is always better than a passive town with several lurkers; but I particularly wanted to lead in with this point because I already feel like we might be heading in the direction of a passive/inactive town. So this is directed to everyone but specifically directed @ Damdred and Tictock:

Damdred and Tictock already posted before the start of the game that they might not be active. Here are Dam's and TT's posts I am referring to:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 06:12 Damdred wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'll

/In

But will be hit and miss on activity

Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 12:51 Tictock wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
/confirm

Not very motivated atm, might pick up as the game goes on, we'll see

sorry


Thankfully they have both said that they are just sort of busy at the start but will have more time and be more active. I just want to urge them both to be as active as they can from the start, that way everyone can gets reads on them and we don't let them both through just because they aren't active in the first phase but might be in the phases after.

Just to be clear though, I am not accusing either of you nor am I suspicious of you for it, because those statements are clearly not alignment indicative because they were made before the game began and people had their roles. I am just saying that I refuse to allow the game to devolve into a passive town game with people lurking and posting nothing of substance and those events already have me worried that we may find ourselves in that position. So I urge you, along with everyone else, to be as active as you can, even if you are strapped for time.

Now that that is out of the way, could those who have played in games with some of the other people in the game (or if you know them) tell me who the strong players? I haven't played mafia on here since 2012 so I have no idea who the good players are and I think knowing this is helpful. I know this request seems a bit scummy ("Oh you wan't to know who the good players are so you can get rid of them!") but I will just concede that and say that knowing who is good tells everyone that those players:
a) should not be lurking because if they are good they are usually always active in their games (so if they are lurking and posting not much substance it will be suspicious),
and,
b) they would be valuable assets (so we should expect strong town play from them and we would expect mafia to try and get rid of them), both good pieces of information for town.

That is all I have for now, get to posting and being active everyone! :D


saw good town environment, stopped reading.

[image loading]


Can you clarify please? I think you mean you basically eyerolled at my post at the second line and didn't bother reading it. Could you clarify what you meant, and in the future not post your thought in the form of GIFs and images?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 02 2015 21:24 GMT
#233
On June 03 2015 06:07 Tictock wrote:
@ SL
Man I half joined this game kus I was tired of tunneling you in every other game I've played in these forums..

Guess I just have to suck it up.


haha. I didnt see you were in the player list tbh. Woulda reged anyway tho
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 02 2015 21:24 GMT
#234
@ ritoky

Ok, I'll bite

##Vote ritoky


For spamming graphics and one liners. Not even trying to push people yet, such scum.
I can take that responsibility.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 02 2015 21:25 GMT
#235
On June 03 2015 06:24 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 06:18 sicklucker wrote:
On June 03 2015 06:08 Kickstart wrote:
It seems some of you already know each other well, at least I gather that from the Tictock banter. Anyone care to give me some background? Who has played with each other before, who is good, why are there 2 votes immediatly on TT?


Ritoky might be a good mafia thats about it.


[image loading]


meh onegu and ve might even be better mafia then you. You were just part of the dream team so I gotta give you some credit
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 02 2015 21:26 GMT
#236
On June 03 2015 06:24 Tictock wrote:
@ ritoky

Ok, I'll bite

##Vote ritoky


For spamming graphics and one liners. Not even trying to push people yet, such scum.


oh your not going to get along with ritoky and onegu....
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 02 2015 21:26 GMT
#237
On June 03 2015 06:24 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 06:07 Tictock wrote:
@ SL
Man I half joined this game kus I was tired of tunneling you in every other game I've played in these forums..

Guess I just have to suck it up.


haha. I didnt see you were in the player list tbh. Woulda reged anyway tho


Nah it's cool man. I need to get over my deal with you. I just hate having to read about your Mason team
+ Show Spoiler +
SL and his Ego
I can take that responsibility.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 02 2015 21:26 GMT
#238
On June 03 2015 06:24 Tictock wrote:
@ ritoky

Ok, I'll bite

##Vote ritoky


For spamming graphics and one liners. Not even trying to push people yet, such scum.


[image loading]
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 02 2015 21:27 GMT
#239
Let us get right to it.

I would generally just come out with my ritoky read right off the bat but I'm going to hold off here for a few reasons. Need to see more postings at this point.

However I don't get why tick is being so weird about Sl and him tunneling in previous games it just feels a bit fake? Also he mentions other people he's suspicious of? I'm not sure what that is, overall his postings give me a strange feeling.

Kick while I agree with his post it isn't alignment indicative to an extent pre made posts usually aren't.

Moving on I need a henchman to do,my bidding who,will it be
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 02 2015 21:27 GMT
#240
I want to vote Ritoky just for making me look at that image....
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