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On May 19 2015 05:11 ShoCkeyy wrote: Obviously, I did read his posts which is why I questioned GB to start with, GB is still under my list and I won't truly know until Palmar is gone and now that I mentioned you, you turn around and accuse me with no real reasons and bandwagon once again. Heh. I've already debunked ALL your arguments against me. You don't even directly attack my post and just says I'm on your list. You simply decided I'm Mafia and found reasons to call me so. You didn't see weird posts THEN decided I'm Mafia. So you think obi has been useless, but why not even mention Vivax here? | ||
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On May 19 2015 06:20 sciberbia wrote: ##Unvote I'm getting too many feelings of activeness/genuineness/fearlessness from Zealos to leave my vote on him. Currently debating between 2 or 3 people for my vote. I might join in on Shocckey. Would be nice if Vivax/Palmar would step up. Yeah, I has this strange feeling he is coming from a townie perspective too. In the other hand, Shockey's push on me is so horrendous that I cannot see it coming from town | ||
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On May 19 2015 02:52 GlowingBear wrote: You point out earlier that I instantly vote, comparing it to Palmar's vote, like it is scummy. Then you point out again that I instantly vote, but understands it was for discussion driving only. So why even pointing that out as scummy? And why not raising suspicions on Palmar, for instance? I'm your only scum read as far as I know. Regarding the veteran claim, it was a joke. You should be able to see it because it was a direct answer to stutters "don't claim unnecessarily" thing. Also, you also admit I could be town trying to take a shot, so I have no idea why are you pointing this out again. Your opinion on my list post is wrong since you say I only copy paste openings, when that's not it. I was also the first one to bring suspicions on sciberbia, so I do bring something new. Bad reason again. This means you didn't even read something you called me scum for Then you bring something from pre game to call me Mafia, before I even know my alignment. Sounds like a joke but... Who knows... Shockey, address to this directly, please. | ||
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On May 19 2015 07:25 ShoCkeyy wrote: I pointed you out because you were the most vocal, but you didn't even respond to any of my posts from the beginning, instead you asked me this: Which lead me to keep going after you, also, that first post can be scummy or discussion which is why I mention both. There's no true way to tell. Now that Palmar mentions he will follow you through and through, gives me the reason to believe he's mafia. Maybe just by playing with them often has lead you to think they play a certain way? As I mentioned before, I haven't played in over five years, I don't know any of you here or how your playstyle is. I'm just also trying to learn for myself. By Palmar instantly throwing his vote where ever GB goes, maybe that's a different route. Remember that the motive is for Mafia to win the game, if GB is the leader he can easily tell palmar and obi to go after who he thinks is necessary. Would people believe it? Of course not because that's not their "style". Because by being the least vocal and least responsive in terms of the allegations towards them, it makes GB look like he's in it for the town. With out either or, the town can start seeing what is going on here. Win the game is the objective of any alignment. You have to think how mafia would act. Do you think mafia would act aggressively, having a vocal player choosing a target early on and having ALL HIS TEAM locking in the target? Or do you think mafia would let town try to ruin themselves and instigate confusion? I find myself more likely to be completely disconnected from the game, having my own reads and tunneling, or completely instigating wrong reads instead of leading them. I would never hard align with my team mates on early day1. Also, all you've brought against me you could see from both alignments, which means what you're bringing to the table isn't alignment indicative at all. So you're basing your whole scumread on me on things that aren't alignment indicative, and the worst part is that YOU KNOW IT ISN'T INDICATIVE. I also showed you that your statement regarding my list post having nothing new/only a copy+paste is a lie, and you never reevaluated on that. Your behaviour is just the first one I described about my mafia play: tunneling on someone, being disconnected of the game. All your reads are too easy. Palmar and obi mafia because they are inactive/voting weirdly, and I'm mafia for reasons that doesn't make me mafia at all. Instead of reevaluating, you are insisting in it. Just... no. Also, forgot to explain to you: "sheeping" is acting like a sheep and following someone's vote instead of having one scumread for yourself and going for it. "plynch" is "Policy Lynch", like "Lynch all lurkers". | ||
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On May 19 2015 07:40 sciberbia wrote: Dunno about ShoCkey. Not sold on that lynch. Some stuff in his filter worries me, but such wild conspiracy and connectionist theories are a town trait I think. I'll think more on it as we get closer to the deadline. ##vote: Palmar This feels like the right thing to do. I'll be in and out of the thread for the next few hours. His conspiracy doesn't sound genuine. So, no. | ||
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On May 19 2015 07:54 Damdred wrote: If i'm to be perfectly honest i'm not really convinced that he thinks that they have done scummy things, maybe its because its difficult to follow. But its some web of associative reads where the people just haven't done much else besides vote together or close together. It's a bit strange but i'm just not sure. Damdy he is having the same behaviour I had on Game of Thrones Mini Mafia He thinks I'm scum and that I am a team with palmar and obi. I am the vocal Mafia leading mislynches and my team is following me to HAVE these mislynches. That is what he is saying. This kind of associative reads is the easiest form of read for Mafia to do. He sounds contributive, aggressive, but relies on WIFOM, and never reevaluate his read even when confronted with perfect logic. Because if he drops his case, he has nowhere to go. Do you see him thinking about sciberbia? No. Do you see him saying you're obvious town? No. Does he care for what The Shining has said in this game? No. Does he have an opinion on oats or Onegu? No. He thinks Vivax is okay because Vivax agrees with him. Sounds too simplistic even for noob players. And he only talked about Vivax when I asked him to. He is not trying to solve the game. He is just trying to throw suspicions and survive by trying to look contributive. That's all. | ||
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On May 19 2015 08:10 ShoCkeyy wrote: I am thinking how mafia would act. I'm thinking of a new approach on how a fast alignment can win this small mafia game and kill out the real townees faster than they can lynch off real mafia members. The alignment is what is confusing people they don't know if it's real or not. The vocal townee can just be an act, who knows? It can. It can be a townie too. So your argument isn't alignment indicarice at all. Take a step back and assume I'm town for a minute. Who is Mafia then? | ||
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On May 19 2015 08:26 ShoCkeyy wrote: If you were a town, I'd be going after Shining or Zealous, but it doesn't look that way to me as of yet. Let's get this further. Why? | ||
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On May 19 2015 04:26 The Shining wrote: Shining doesn't play very actively at all on Mondays/Tuesdays. He plays at work and doesn't work Mondays/Tuesdays. Check any game I've been in in the past and it's a pre-game excuse, I didn't realize D1 would land squarely on my days off. Also, I'm dying, literally, and I'm omw to the ER. Good thing is, I'll have my phone there so I'll catch up and put out some reads tonight. Also I haven't really read up to date, just skimmed, so if I come back to the policy lynch train, I don't really mind or care. Hopefully I won't die tonight and will be able to come back lmao. /darkhumor + Show Spoiler + All jokes aside, though, I really am town. Should my condition get any worse tonight, I'll just replace out to keep the game fair for my fellow townies and give you a shot to win <3 On May 19 2015 04:31 The Shining wrote: Fck it, I'll just keep posting until I get where I'm going. Stutters, why would you point out we've been in 3 recent games together, call me out saying I "should know" you don't D1 and that you're a bad policy lynch, and then turn around and do pretty much the same to me? If I "should know" you and your D1, you "should know" I open every game just talking shit and defensive to anyone who so breathes my way as town on D1. You should also know I don't play much on Mondays/Tuesdays, similar to your "I dont play weekends" excuse that you said I also "should know." So why the hell do standards for me reading you apply due to past games but you don't apply to the same standards? Seems like a shit attempt at trying to scum me for things I've done in all of my town games, to varying degrees. Damdred, these couple of posts felt really genuine. I don | ||
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On May 19 2015 04:26 The Shining wrote: Shining doesn't play very actively at all on Mondays/Tuesdays. He plays at work and doesn't work Mondays/Tuesdays. Check any game I've been in in the past and it's a pre-game excuse, I didn't realize D1 would land squarely on my days off. Also, I'm dying, literally, and I'm omw to the ER. Good thing is, I'll have my phone there so I'll catch up and put out some reads tonight. Also I haven't really read up to date, just skimmed, so if I come back to the policy lynch train, I don't really mind or care. Hopefully I won't die tonight and will be able to come back lmao. /darkhumor + Show Spoiler + All jokes aside, though, I really am town. Should my condition get any worse tonight, I'll just replace out to keep the game fair for my fellow townies and give you a shot to win <3 On May 19 2015 04:31 The Shining wrote: Fck it, I'll just keep posting until I get where I'm going. Stutters, why would you point out we've been in 3 recent games together, call me out saying I "should know" you don't D1 and that you're a bad policy lynch, and then turn around and do pretty much the same to me? If I "should know" you and your D1, you "should know" I open every game just talking shit and defensive to anyone who so breathes my way as town on D1. You should also know I don't play much on Mondays/Tuesdays, similar to your "I dont play weekends" excuse that you said I also "should know." So why the hell do standards for me reading you apply due to past games but you don't apply to the same standards? Seems like a shit attempt at trying to scum me for things I've done in all of my town games, to varying degrees. Damdred, these couple of posts felt really genuine. I don't know, it's a tone read. It's hard for me to see mafia faking this ER thing. It's hard for me to see mafia faking the spoilered wording. She could be mafia, but for these tone reads, I think there are better lynches than her. I still have a town lean on her. And I'm about to flip my read on you. Reevaluatin why I scumread you now. | ||
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The only thing that is making me cautious with you is that "I don't give reads", and you do this everytime as mafia, and giving a town lean on Palmar + calling people baddies and shit (it's just not like you). It's hard for me to see you coming from a town perspective when I think about this. But when I reevaluate your overall gameplay, you feel townie. | ||
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For now, I don't want to lynch today: Damdred Sciberbia Onegu Maybe oats. | ||
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On May 19 2015 10:26 Damdred wrote: Gb, gb, gb i'm not sure what to do with you sometimes. I'm not sure that the "I don't give reads" thing is necessarily true at all this game and is a really really flimsy reason to even suspect me at thi sjuncture because...I've been pretty transparent about how I feel about anyone multiple times in this game, calling people bad when they act badly or have illogical conclussions or the way they are doing it isn't the most helpful but its better than defending yourself from parrots the whole game. However I kinda like stutters, his vote on shining is kind of weird and uneven in some ways however his follow up post and explanation was rather good in a base type of way. I just wouldn't want to lynch him today I think his content is still rather lacking however, I have a meta read i'm using on him and it would put him more towards the null/towny than the null/scummy right now. "Sex" is an option. But I'd like you to be a girl first. Yes I know it's a weak reason, but it's something that keeps bugging me and, as I've already said, your overall gameplay sounds townish, so I'll go with that. OK, so not Stutters today. I think the lynch is around obi/shocker and maybe palmar, I suppose? | ||
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On May 19 2015 10:52 ShoCkeyy wrote: It just seems weird, mafia players that can communicate outside of the thread make it obvious on who they want dead by their voting. GB is hard to pin due to his vote being scum/discussion, now Palmar and Obi, with their posting history and vote timing can seem mafia. I pin Palmar in the middle because if Palmar is Mafia, then GB has to be mafia too due to the consistency in posting votes and timeliness (GB trying a new approach) and Obi just bandwagoning on the vote list. If Obi flips red, it's because he's following the mafia player Palmar which won't seem like much, but in fact it's two mafia players in our face making it seem like GB can be the mafia player. Because Zealous comes in following the foot steps of one of the mafia players. Shining is still hard to tell since he at least tried to post (but these aren't claims to them being mafia) Wait, I thought you assumed Obi was Town? why the sudden change against Palmar and Obi? So you're saying that if I'm town, Zealos is Mafia for following a mafia, but that is only Mafia if I am Mafia. People, I can't see this guy coming from a town perspective. I really can't see. Help me or I will never move my vote from him. | ||
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On May 20 2015 00:13 Palmar wrote: Also at Oats, I'm not sure this makes shocks mafia. Generally people who come up with convoluted and overly complex conspiracy theories are paranoid townes. Palmar, the problem here is that I debunked his whole case on me and when showing that he was wrong, he simply decided to ignore those points. I've caught him straight up lying about my list post, for example. And when I asked him to assume, hypothetically, that I'm town (which simply destroys any association), he gave a scumread out of association. He is simply calling 3 people Mafia and not caring for the rest of the game. He made a group and is trying to get this group lynched, but has NO opinion on other players. | ||
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And when I show you this, you don't take a step back. Tell me this: if Damdred IS Mafia, how does it changes your reads? | ||
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Oats, what made you scumread Shockey? | ||
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