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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 16 2015 01:54 GMT
#21
/in

Gonna try a different approach
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 16 2015 23:31 GMT
#46
How about now?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 16 2015 23:53 GMT
#52
I'm from the balance team and I think the game is well balanced this way.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 17 2015 04:49 GMT
#54
On May 17 2015 09:39 Zealos wrote:
Balance doesn't matter, games all RNG anyways
EDIT: Real talk by the way, I've already noticed I'm spelt Zealous in the first post. It's Zealos pls, like Zel-Oss


See, FF? That's why you'll never be a good host.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 17 2015 20:04 GMT
#71
##Vote: Damdred

Mafia-ish opening.

Does anyone know how to turn back to mobile mode? I turned website mode again, and AGAIN I can't find the reverse button.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 17 2015 20:18 GMT
#75
On May 18 2015 05:08 The Shining wrote:
GB on the very very very bottom, right hand side, link says turn on mobile enhanced mode.

Also, your vote is cake.

The cake is a lie.


Thank God!!

Or you

I like cakes

The cake is a pie.

Damdy, you just started the game with an opening that does nothing other than commenting other opening, which I think is Mafia-ish
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 17 2015 20:24 GMT
#77
I'm saying that instead of coming to the thread and make a generic opening, you took the easiest step, which is commenting his opening without making anything from it.

Like, what do you make of his opening?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 17 2015 20:32 GMT
#85
On May 18 2015 05:25 Stutters695 wrote:
Vibing to the day post, I like that. Weekends are my worst days for activity so I'm not sure how much I'll be around today.

Definitely going to try and apply some stuff from the Assassin analysis to this game such as requesting people don't claim unecessarily.


I'm the Veteran, BAM!!!
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 17 2015 20:44 GMT
#90
On May 18 2015 05:31 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure what I should be getting by his opening. Nor do I understand why you are queing on mine but its what it is I suppose


And what so you make of my alignment from it?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 17 2015 20:54 GMT
#94
On May 18 2015 05:48 Damdred wrote:
Sorry no reads or leans on the first 15 posts of the game. Company policy


LOL.

Anyway, althought my vote wasn't a joke, it wasn't made on something I really believe. I threw suspicions on you just to get discussion going. I don't really think you're mafia for that.

I'm having dinner. I will come back later.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 17 2015 22:35 GMT
#136
On May 18 2015 06:51 Damdred wrote:
I'm disappointed in you Palmar, you've never caught me like that and you never will.

Besides if you lynch me here you have to share the headline with GB, and do you really want that


Damdy, you usually aren't one to berate me like that.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 17 2015 22:41 GMT
#141
Your townread on palmar is also extremely odd since there is nothing townie in it.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 17 2015 23:09 GMT
#154
I like Damdred's explanation this early. Sounds like possibly town.

I don't like Palmar's scumread on Damdred and suddenly peacing out.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 03:19 GMT
#183
Dude I am re-reading and making annotations but I HATE sciberbia + Damdred

Dude I really hate it.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 03:22 GMT
#184
On May 18 2015 06:41 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:20 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure what exactly is mafia-ish about commenting on someone else opening, rather than coming into the thread and not say anything. Unless you are saying that i'm not actually commenting, or commenting and not giving him anything to work for?

Now if you agree with either of these shame shame on you.

@Damdred
Can you explain the bolded? Am I to understand your first post as saying "I'm setting high expectations for you scib"?


On May 18 2015 06:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:41 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:20 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure what exactly is mafia-ish about commenting on someone else opening, rather than coming into the thread and not say anything. Unless you are saying that i'm not actually commenting, or commenting and not giving him anything to work for?

Now if you agree with either of these shame shame on you.

@Damdred
Can you explain the bolded? Am I to understand your first post as saying "I'm setting high expectations for you scib"?


I am glad that someone understood dwhat I was saying.


Like, I HATE this interaction.

First post is Damdred saying he doesn't know what is mafia-ish on his post. Then gives two example why his first post could be mafia-ish but it's a shame if I assume one of those makes him mafia. Why does he thinks it could make him look as mafia, then??

Also, sciberbia bolds this, then asks something COMPLETELY UNRELATED, and Damdred answers like "phew you got it!" without explaining anything.
A huge ARGGGGGH
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 03:31 GMT
#191
On May 18 2015 12:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why is everybody capslocking?


Why are you posting just this without having any interactions? LOL
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 03:41 GMT
#194
On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote:
Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive.
One of Damdred and Palmar are mafia I think though


Explain to me your logic please.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 04:08 GMT
#199
GB'S NOT-SO-AWESOME LISTPOST v.1.0


1.ObiWanShinobi
.:Townie points
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 18 2015 05:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:35 The Shining wrote:
GB explained why he thought Damdreds entrance was scummy. By doing so, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a joke.

Stutters, Shockeyy, Obi. Names in filter for reminder. Three entrances with afk excuses/lack of playing right now. Please fix this before eod so I don't have to plynch kthx


Since when have you been so interested in plynches?


Tone read: I just LOVED this reaction. Sounds genuine.


My read on him is: null


2. Stutters695
.:Scummy points
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 18 2015 05:25 Stutters695 wrote:
Vibing to the day post, I like that. Weekends are my worst days for activity so I'm not sure how much I'll be around today.

Definitely going to try and apply some stuff from the Assassin analysis to this game such as requesting people don't claim unecessarily.


Opening WIFOM: I don't like this. It's a guy on a weekend saying he don't have time to play on weekends + saying supposedly contributive stuff (don't claim unnecessarily) but that is not contributive at all. Just an easy matter to speak of.

On May 18 2015 05:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:04 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Damdred

Mafia-ish opening.

Does anyone know how to turn back to mobile mode? I turned website mode again, and AGAIN I can't find the reverse button.

Did you plan on putting this in the voting thread?


Uhm... why does it matter? What is he trying to achieve with this question?

On May 18 2015 06:00 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:35 The Shining wrote:
GB explained why he thought Damdreds entrance was scummy. By doing so, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a joke.

Stutters, Shockeyy, Obi. Names in filter for reminder. Three entrances with afk excuses/lack of playing right now. Please fix this before eod so I don't have to plynch kthx


You've played with me three(?) times recently, twice as town and once as scum. In all of those games, my weekend activity was atrocious. You should also remember "I don't do d1" and thus realize that a d1 lynch on me is retarded.

I will say I plan on trying more d1 as Assassination inspired me but I don't like your post. Don't be scum plz and don't vig me again.


A post used mostly to defend himself, with no attempt to further inquire The Shining. I would expect a reaction like "you know I lurk day1, why are you considering me as a police lynch" instead of "you know it, please don't be scum or don't vigi me again". A big WAT?


My read on him is: mafia lean


3.Palmar
.:Scummy points
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 18 2015 06:33 Palmar wrote:
I am literally 100% certain Damdred is mafia.

Kill with lightning bolts please.


Palmar pls.


My read on him is: null


4.The Shining
.:Townie points
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 18 2015 05:31 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:17 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:08 The Shining wrote:
GB on the very very very bottom, right hand side, link says turn on mobile enhanced mode.

Also, your vote is cake.

The cake is a lie.

Am I correctly deciphering this as saying that you disapprove of GB's vote on Damdred? Would you go so far as to say you have a town read/lean on Damdred for his opening posts, or do you simply think GB's vote is baseless?


Nope. I am merely stating that the vote is not in the voting thread and therefore a cake and therefore a lie. A nonexistent vote can't be baseless.

But you're going so far as to try and draw far too many conclusions from one post. Too strong, too early. Why?


This is the exact reaction I had. Plus, The Shining inquired sciberbia in a townie way (trying to get information from the player), which makes me think The Shining is probably town for this.


.:Scummy points
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 18 2015 05:35 The Shining wrote:
GB explained why he thought Damdreds entrance was scummy. By doing so, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a joke.

Stutters, Shockeyy, Obi. Names in filter for reminder. Three entrances with afk excuses/lack of playing right now. Please fix this before eod so I don't have to plynch kthx


Weird post. Why talking about policy lynches like this and why ASKING these players to FIX this? Sounds like scum throwing suspicions without compromising themselves or opening possible mislynch targets for late day1.


My read on her is: town lean


5. Onegu
Nothing alignment indicative yet IMO.


6. Damdred
.:Townie points
+ Show Spoiler +

Damdred's early day one activity and interactions with me felt like town Damdred.



.:Scummy points
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 18 2015 05:48 Damdred wrote:
Sorry no reads or leans on the first 15 posts of the game. Company policy


Not something I would expect in town Damdred and it's something I have seen Damdred doing before as scum. Summed up with this:

On May 18 2015 06:39 Damdred wrote:
Well Palmar is town that's my first town read of the game.


So, you DO or you DO NOT have leans?
Damdy... pls...
This is from Assassination Mafia:

This is almost as bad a read as me saying GB is town just saying.

However at this point I have a couple of preliminary town reads I believe just by tone and posting style and somewhat on content.

Rsoultin seems to be genuinely using the posts to press good ideas while pressing issues that are important in the thread.

HTS and Trfel both seem to have a good tone about them and it seems it is easy to follow what they mean while it somewhat mirrors what RS says I think it is a good sign of things to come and both are good leans.

KSC... is a bit harder for me to get a handle on at this point, I have a slight town lean on him. His tone and general demeanor remind me of Void Mafia at this point. However his style is also reminiscent of mini mafia to an extent, but the content is different. I'm pretty ok with him at this point.

LS is interesting, he always wastes posts but we'll see what his other posts do.


Why denying giving reads this game, huh?
Moving on:

On May 18 2015 06:51 Damdred wrote:
I'm disappointed in you Palmar, you've never caught me like that and you never will.

Besides if you lynch me here you have to share the headline with GB, and do you really want that


Not a very good reaction.
And it's not like Damdred uses my "bad readability" to convince Palmar he is doing wrong. Damdred knows I'm not always a bad player, specially him, and I think he respects my gameplay as much as I respect his. I really don't like this.

On May 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
I think its a nonsensical stance for Mafia!Palmar to take at this stage of the game that Damdred is scum.

Especially given how Palmar thinks (highly) about how I play the game and how I eventually gain momentum as the game goes along and if i'm town I can easily get off the mislynch as long as I try anyway. I don't see mafia Palmar going after me early in the game.

Plus hes done this before to me as town I think


Weakest read ever on Palmar. It should be the EXACT opposite. If palmar thinks high of your gameplay, he would never instantly vote like this, which would mean Palmar is mafia, not town.

On May 18 2015 08:23 Damdred wrote:
Maybe you think I answered superficially that doesn't make what I said bad, I answered the question. Does it change the way i'm reading someone, not really at this point. Its a good thought he has trying to see what I have to say though, which I think hes town anyway.

I'm not sure what you are getting at if you think i'm mafia for answering in this way the voting thread is right over there, otherwise make your point and move on.


VERY DODGY answer to Vivax. I'm hating you Damdy.


My read on him is: mafia


7. Vivax
.:Scummy points
+ Show Spoiler +

Various suspicions thrown, without pursuing more information on them, never making anything out of them


My read on him is: mafia lean


8.ShoCkeyy
.:Scummy points
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 18 2015 05:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Gotta pick up the wife from work in a few but just wanted to pass by and say hello, I'll check in later.


"Hey guys, I'm here but I'm not here, gonna be back later kthxbai". I don't like it.


My read on him is: null


9. Oatsmaster
Nothing alignment indicative yet.


10.sciberbia
.:Townie points
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 18 2015 07:40 sciberbia wrote:
##vote Zealos

Best read for mafia so far. He does a ton of filter-diving on Damdred to make it look like he's hardcore contributing, but he's super wishy-washy in his conclusions. Just look at the amount of hedging his bets here:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote:
Although there was a post limit on Assassination...

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote:
I'd lean slighty mafia but I'm not convinced honestly.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote:
Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote:
One of Damdred and Palmar are mafia I think though


Like why even post all your research if you are this unsure in your conclusions? Looks like a good candidate for someone who is trying to look like they are contributing but isn't.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 08:06 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 07:45 Vivax wrote:
On May 18 2015 07:41 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote:
Zealos is town, any objections?

lol yes I object. What do you think of my post?


I see nothing scummy in not being completely confident into your conclusions, cause that's what it sounds like. Not that "wishy washy" buzzword you just used.

As I see it he actually tried to deepen analysis on Damdred but doesn't feel too strongly about his conclusions. That's townie.

You're starting to worry me scib. But let's let this play out for a bit.

That's interesting because I was expecting you to scumread him with me. As I'm sure you'd agree, there's a difference between being wishy-washy and posting unsure conclusions. If he had concluded, "I have found some small reasons to suspect that Damdred is scum", then I would have been more-or-less fine with his post.

What is wishy-washy is saying something and then immediately retracting it or modifying your previous statement to make it less forceful.
"I'd lean slighty mafia BUT I'm not convinced honestly."
"Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive."

This sort of posting is typical of scum who want to look like they are saying something of substance, yet either fear retaliation from a town Damdred, fear looking bad if/when Damdred flips town, or are trying to delicately play a bussing situation.


Okay response from sciberbia. This is precise.



Ok push on Zealos, but weak reasons to vote him.


.:Scummy points
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 18 2015 05:17 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:08 The Shining wrote:
GB on the very very very bottom, right hand side, link says turn on mobile enhanced mode.

Also, your vote is cake.

The cake is a lie.

Am I correctly deciphering this as saying that you disapprove of GB's vote on Damdred? Would you go so far as to say you have a town read/lean on Damdred for his opening posts, or do you simply think GB's vote is baseless?


I don't like this questioning on The Shining. Looks too tryhard on an opening that haven't got much to say. It is logical that The Shining simply thought my joke was baseless.

On May 18 2015 05:42 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:31 The Shining wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:17 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:08 The Shining wrote:
GB on the very very very bottom, right hand side, link says turn on mobile enhanced mode.

Also, your vote is cake.

The cake is a lie.

Am I correctly deciphering this as saying that you disapprove of GB's vote on Damdred? Would you go so far as to say you have a town read/lean on Damdred for his opening posts, or do you simply think GB's vote is baseless?


Nope. I am merely stating that the vote is not in the voting thread and therefore a cake and therefore a lie. A nonexistent vote can't be baseless.

But you're going so far as to try and draw far too many conclusions from one post. Too strong, too early. Why?

My post consisted of two questions, not two conclusions. I did not draw any conclusions, but instead tried to decipher your cryptic post and get confirmation from you as to what it meant.

In future, please try to be clear in the first place rather than intentionally communicating poorly and then acting smug when I fail to understand you.


A big WOW to this aggressive overreaction.

On May 18 2015 06:54 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:47 Palmar wrote:
Why are you guys talking to mafia. Just lynch him and be done with it.

Idk I was considering joining your wagon on the premise that Damdred was super excited to start in the pre-game, but I have been getting a sad/sullen feel from his first few posts, which would tend to indicate he received a mafia PM.

But on the flipside, his first post of the game was him setting high expectations for me. If I were mafia!damdred, I would not want to encourage town!sciberbia. Rather, I would hide very far away from town!sciberbia and hope he doesn't notice me. So I think his first post is a townie point. Feel free to try and dissaude me.



VEEEERY weak reasoning. So Damdred couldn't be mafia trying to get town cred by "setting high expectations" on sciberbia? Why mafia!Damdred wouldn't try to encourage town!sciberbia?
And a huge LOL @ the sad feeling he got from Damdred, throwing a little of suspicions on Damdred so he can call him mafia later.

On May 18 2015 06:45 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:41 The Shining wrote:
I realized I was being a bit unfair in telling you to just question me when you had but in past experiences, I've had words and posts twisted to conform to someone's motives so the guided questions just rub me the wrong way.

Yeah maybe you're right, the cake thing was a bit indirect. I just don't like going too deep into a pressure vote with no actual vote. Not much I can learn from that.

OK that is fair and understandable. The reason I was asking about your cake post is that I would have thought it scummy if you were actually "going too deep" into GB's pressure vote. But you might currently get a town lean. Maybe. Pending reread. Anyway I just don't want you to be mad at me all game.


He was the one who went too deep on The Shining's answer. If that is scummy, sciberbia is scum.
And why telling The Shining she MIGHT get a town lean? Why is he reading her like town now? What on their interaction could make him think The Shining is town, under his perspective, who was so worked up with her response to him?

On May 18 2015 07:30 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
I think its a nonsensical stance for Mafia!Palmar to take at this stage of the game that Damdred is scum.

Especially given how Palmar thinks (highly) about how I play the game and how I eventually gain momentum as the game goes along and if i'm town I can easily get off the mislynch as long as I try anyway. I don't see mafia Palmar going after me early in the game.

Plus hes done this before to me as town I think

Damn this is a pretty reasonable and well thought-out response so I guess I can't vote you.
+ Show Spoiler +

Of course it is entirely consistent with the theory that Palmar called you scum because you posted in his QT

But I'll wait for one of you to flip scum before returning to this.


Sorry Palmar but I need further persuasion if you want me to vote damdred.


LOL no. So PALMAR has to convince you, someone you THINK could be Mafia?


My read on him is: mafia


11.Qwerty!
Nothing alignment indicative yet


12.Zealos
.:Scummy points
+ Show Spoiler +


Although there was a post limit on Assassination, it really seems like he was being much more proactive in Assassination, whereas in this game he is on the defensive.
I'd lean slighty mafia but I'm not convinced honestly.


Wishy washy conclusion for someone who just filtered Damdred in another game and noticed a very different behaviour.


My read on him is: null
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 04:08 GMT
#200
Phew this took me a while.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 04:11 GMT
#201
On May 18 2015 11:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:39 Damdred wrote:
Well Palmar is town that's my first town read of the game.


Thats a bad read.
Why was Palmar town for scumreading you?

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 08:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I like Damdred's explanation this early. Sounds like possibly town.

I don't like Palmar's scumread on Damdred and suddenly peacing out.

How is palmar similar to assassination?

scib, feels a lot like you are making up a read for the sake of a read.


I never said he is, although he is. Just posting nonsensical scumreads without good reasoning or any reasoning at all

Why does it matter and what do you think of what I've just said?
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