EPTThe only thing that is making me cautious with you is that "I don't give reads", and you do this everytime as mafia, and giving a town lean on Palmar + calling people baddies and shit (it's just not like you). It's hard for me to see you coming from a town perspective when I think about this. But when I reevaluate your overall gameplay, you feel townie.
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
The only thing that is making me cautious with you is that "I don't give reads", and you do this everytime as mafia, and giving a town lean on Palmar + calling people baddies and shit (it's just not like you). It's hard for me to see you coming from a town perspective when I think about this. But when I reevaluate your overall gameplay, you feel townie. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
For now, I don't want to lynch today: Damdred Sciberbia Onegu Maybe oats. | ||
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Damdred
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I'm not sure that the "I don't give reads" thing is necessarily true at all this game and is a really really flimsy reason to even suspect me at thi sjuncture because...I've been pretty transparent about how I feel about anyone multiple times in this game, calling people bad when they act badly or have illogical conclussions or the way they are doing it isn't the most helpful but its better than defending yourself from parrots the whole game. However I kinda like stutters, his vote on shining is kind of weird and uneven in some ways however his follow up post and explanation was rather good in a base type of way. I just wouldn't want to lynch him today I think his content is still rather lacking however, I have a meta read i'm using on him and it would put him more towards the null/towny than the null/scummy right now. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On May 19 2015 10:26 Damdred wrote: Gb, gb, gb i'm not sure what to do with you sometimes. I'm not sure that the "I don't give reads" thing is necessarily true at all this game and is a really really flimsy reason to even suspect me at thi sjuncture because...I've been pretty transparent about how I feel about anyone multiple times in this game, calling people bad when they act badly or have illogical conclussions or the way they are doing it isn't the most helpful but its better than defending yourself from parrots the whole game. However I kinda like stutters, his vote on shining is kind of weird and uneven in some ways however his follow up post and explanation was rather good in a base type of way. I just wouldn't want to lynch him today I think his content is still rather lacking however, I have a meta read i'm using on him and it would put him more towards the null/towny than the null/scummy right now. "Sex" is an option. But I'd like you to be a girl first. Yes I know it's a weak reason, but it's something that keeps bugging me and, as I've already said, your overall gameplay sounds townish, so I'll go with that. OK, so not Stutters today. I think the lynch is around obi/shocker and maybe palmar, I suppose? | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On May 19 2015 08:47 sciberbia wrote: Dude this doesn't make any sense. If you are town, really think about what you are saying here. According to premise 1: if Palmar is mafia, then GB has to be mafia. Let's assume that is true. Now in scenario 2 where Obi flips mafia, Palmar is mafia and GB is town. This is logically inconsistent with premise 1, which states that if Palmar is mafia, then GB has to be mafia. Like imagine both Obi and Palmar are mafia. Now what you are essentially saying is that GB is mafia if and only if we lynch Palmar before Obi, which doesn't make any sense. It just seems weird, mafia players that can communicate outside of the thread make it obvious on who they want dead by their voting. GB is hard to pin due to his vote being scum/discussion, now Palmar and Obi, with their posting history and vote timing can seem mafia. I pin Palmar in the middle because if Palmar is Mafia, then GB has to be mafia too due to the consistency in posting votes and timeliness (GB trying a new approach) and Obi just bandwagoning on the vote list. If Obi flips red, it's because he's following the mafia player Palmar which won't seem like much, but in fact it's two mafia players in our face making it seem like GB can be the mafia player. Because Zealous comes in following the foot steps of one of the mafia players. Shining is still hard to tell since he at least tried to post (but these aren't claims to them being mafia) On May 19 2015 10:37 GlowingBear wrote: I think the lynch is around obi/shocker and maybe palmar, I suppose? Wait, I thought you assumed Obi was Town? why the sudden change against Palmar and Obi? | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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ObiWanShinobi
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ShoCkeyy
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On May 19 2015 09:24 Damdred wrote: Actually its a general heuristic that the person with the most posts or one of the biggest filters and is involved in everything is generally town and shouldn't be lynched day 1. Besides a select few players who are the best at being mafia it is a good general rule of thumb. I'm giving you excellent advice of how mafia teams generally work, if you get one you do not want to be lined up and super associated or else the entire team will go down in quick succession and the game will be lost. Also constant re-evaluation and involved in everything is a highly sought after town role, and this is so much town for gb that its not even funny. You also ignore a lot of points just to make a joke out of a couple of points. You don't even think GB is mafia as you have said so i'm not sure why you are making light of what i'm saying. Also just to touch on this, I've been pretty active compared to other players. I'm at least trying to sniff out the mafia players compared to others. This is why I find it weird that I target three of the players and all three of them target me. On May 19 2015 10:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Shockey have you played elsewhere before? Holy smokes this question again? Have you not read the thread lol... Anyways I'm gone. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
To answer Damdred: I mostly think Shining is town because I don't think he would necessarily lie about any kind of health condition in a game. It's not exactly a strong read at this point in time but there you go. (Besides that fact, I thought him coming back during his trip just to try to make stuff happen was pretty town, plus I thought his other posts were relatively strong enough to warrant a townread.) | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On May 19 2015 10:52 ShoCkeyy wrote: It just seems weird, mafia players that can communicate outside of the thread make it obvious on who they want dead by their voting. GB is hard to pin due to his vote being scum/discussion, now Palmar and Obi, with their posting history and vote timing can seem mafia. I pin Palmar in the middle because if Palmar is Mafia, then GB has to be mafia too due to the consistency in posting votes and timeliness (GB trying a new approach) and Obi just bandwagoning on the vote list. If Obi flips red, it's because he's following the mafia player Palmar which won't seem like much, but in fact it's two mafia players in our face making it seem like GB can be the mafia player. Because Zealous comes in following the foot steps of one of the mafia players. Shining is still hard to tell since he at least tried to post (but these aren't claims to them being mafia) Wait, I thought you assumed Obi was Town? why the sudden change against Palmar and Obi? So you're saying that if I'm town, Zealos is Mafia for following a mafia, but that is only Mafia if I am Mafia. People, I can't see this guy coming from a town perspective. I really can't see. Help me or I will never move my vote from him. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
I still want to lynch Zealous/Zealos hasnt exactly changed my mind at this point. Could lynch into the lurkers. And sho also. | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On May 19 2015 11:44 Onegu wrote: Obi's fuck off attitude this game is kinda townie though dont you think. He needs to do more shit but yeah. I still want to lynch Zealous/Zealos hasnt exactly changed my mind at this point. Could lynch into the lurkers. And sho also. @Onegu What are the reasons you want to lynch Zealos? Before you said that you didn't like how he used the assassination meta analysis and the fact that he changed his vote from Palmar to Damdred. He has since addressed those points: + Show Spoiler [assassiation meta analysis] + On May 19 2015 06:08 Zealos wrote: As for the Meta comparison, I didn't play in that game, and I haven't played mafia for ages. I was just looking at the early mafia leans on Damdred, so I checked his filter to compare with his last game. I then checked again later and it just looks very very different to me. Even if you guys don't agree with the call of him mafia, at the very worst having the information pointed out/available in thread can only be helpful to town imo On May 19 2015 06:09 Zealos wrote: Like, I get it might be shaky, but I think it's worth bearing in mind. I just think although you might make sure to get more content in each post during a restricted game, the whole tone of posting is different + Show Spoiler [changing vote] + On May 19 2015 06:06 Zealos wrote: As for Dandreds useless posts: None of these posts for me push any town agenda at all. Futhermore twice in a row he's talking about how easy the game is. I dunno, its not like a super mafia tell, but it just seems like something a town player would be spamming What do you find unsatisfactory about his explanations? They seem believable to me. I specifically like the fact that he was able to point to specific posts of Damdred that he did not like, which were subsequent to his initial vote on Palmar, and made him change his mind. Also, what specific "lurkers" would you suggest we lynch into? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On May 19 2015 11:44 Onegu wrote: Obi's fuck off attitude this game is kinda townie though dont you think. He needs to do more shit but yeah. You are the first person to almost ever think this. | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On May 19 2015 12:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I couldn't the answer to the question I asked Shocky. @Obi He just said he hasn't played on these forums in ~5 years. I don't think he ever said whether or not he played on other forums. I can only assume he misunderstood your question. So what do you think on Shocky? Want to lynch? | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On May 19 2015 12:08 sciberbia wrote: @Onegu What are the reasons you want to lynch Zealos? Before you said that you didn't like how he used the assassination meta analysis and the fact that he changed his vote from Palmar to Damdred. He has since addressed those points: + Show Spoiler [assassiation meta analysis] + On May 19 2015 06:08 Zealos wrote: As for the Meta comparison, I didn't play in that game, and I haven't played mafia for ages. I was just looking at the early mafia leans on Damdred, so I checked his filter to compare with his last game. I then checked again later and it just looks very very different to me. Even if you guys don't agree with the call of him mafia, at the very worst having the information pointed out/available in thread can only be helpful to town imo On May 19 2015 06:09 Zealos wrote: Like, I get it might be shaky, but I think it's worth bearing in mind. I just think although you might make sure to get more content in each post during a restricted game, the whole tone of posting is different + Show Spoiler [changing vote] + On May 19 2015 06:06 Zealos wrote: As for Dandreds useless posts: None of these posts for me push any town agenda at all. Futhermore twice in a row he's talking about how easy the game is. I dunno, its not like a super mafia tell, but it just seems like something a town player would be spamming What do you find unsatisfactory about his explanations? They seem believable to me. I specifically like the fact that he was able to point to specific posts of Damdred that he did not like, which were subsequent to his initial vote on Palmar, and made him change his mind. Also, what specific "lurkers" would you suggest we lynch into? First why even look at that game and only that game? Second he still finds both of them scummy right? And again he goes it isnt a super mafia tell. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
Vivax and Palmar at this point. Maybe Oats he has dissapeared also. I want to give palmar the benefit of the doubt but like at this point I am having a hard time. Quarty gets replaced I think, even though I have seen him post in other threads. Really if he comes in and posts and makes a vote I could really lynch him. Like I have to many townreads :/ | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
Seems like it's been forever, That you've been gone. Where'd you go? I miss you so, Seems like it's been forever, That you've been gone, Please come back home... | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
You are supposed to win the game for us... | ||
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