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Damdred
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sciberbia
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##unvote ##vote shoCkeyy shoCkeyy if you want to convince me you're town, I need to clearly understand who you think is mafia and why. | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
I think Palmar or Obi are mafia. If Palmar flips mafia, GB is mafia and Obi is just bandwagoning. If Obi flips mafia, then Palmar is mafia, GB is town. That is my current thought process. | ||
Damdred
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ShoCkeyy
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ShoCkeyy
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On May 19 2015 08:38 Damdred wrote: That's nonsensical though, that's like saying if I flip mafia scib is mafia because we are thread bros. How is it nonsensical when all their posts line up to them being on a team? | ||
Damdred
15669 Posts
For another you are completely ignoring the reasons why GB is town. The level of mafia play is really high now adays sometimes you get a really bad team, but distancing from yoru team mates is extremely encouraged at points, so that you can't do associative reads. Like honestly theres nothing in there postings that directly point to them being on a team besides them being close together on voting. | ||
sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On May 19 2015 08:37 ShoCkeyy wrote: He asked me a hypothetical question and I gave him a hypothetical answer. I think Palmar or Obi are mafia. 1)If Palmar flips mafia, GB is mafia and Obi is just bandwagoning. 2)If Obi flips mafia, then Palmar is mafia, GB is town. Dude this doesn't make any sense. If you are town, really think about what you are saying here. According to premise 1: if Palmar is mafia, then GB has to be mafia. Let's assume that is true. Now in scenario 2 where Obi flips mafia, Palmar is mafia and GB is town. This is logically inconsistent with premise 1, which states that if Palmar is mafia, then GB has to be mafia. Like imagine both Obi and Palmar are mafia. Now what you are essentially saying is that GB is mafia if and only if we lynch Palmar before Obi, which doesn't make any sense. | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On May 19 2015 08:44 Damdred wrote: Pre flip associations are really bad, if any of them are scum it wont' be because there postings line up or one is sheeping the other. For another you are completely ignoring the reasons why GB is town. The level of mafia play is really high now adays sometimes you get a really bad team, but distancing from yoru team mates is extremely encouraged at points, so that you can't do associative reads. Like honestly theres nothing in there postings that directly point to them being on a team besides them being close together on voting. What is it about his posts that make you think he's not mafia and/or associated with Palmar? This still doesn't change my vote from Palmar. I just find it suspicious that he hasn't been around, throw his vote based on GB's with out having much to say in regards. Obviously he mentioned he'll follow GB's post afterwards, at least Shining who apparently is heading to ER has time to post. | ||
sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On May 19 2015 08:44 Damdred wrote: Pre flip associations are really bad, if any of them are scum it wont' be because there postings line up or one is sheeping the other. For another you are completely ignoring the reasons why GB is town. The level of mafia play is really high now adays sometimes you get a really bad team, but distancing from yoru team mates is extremely encouraged at points, so that you can't do associative reads. Like honestly theres nothing in there postings that directly point to them being on a team besides them being close together on voting. @Damdred I agree with this, but before I even start to criticize his beliefs, I want his beliefs to be internally consistent. For now I would be happy if he could just state a consistent set of beliefs, even if I don't agree with some or all of them. | ||
Damdred
15669 Posts
On May 19 2015 08:50 ShoCkeyy wrote: What is it about his posts that make you think he's not mafia and/or associated with Palmar? This still doesn't change my vote from Palmar. I just find it suspicious that he hasn't been around, throw his vote based on GB's with out having much to say in regards. Obviously he mentioned he'll follow GB's post afterwards, at least Shining who apparently is heading to ER has time to post. I've given my thoughts in my filter a few posts ago on GB in detail why I think hes town. I don't think Palmar has anything to do honestly with GBs alignment. Of course its suspicious that palmar hasn't been around but its weird that you are spending more of your time talking about Palmar and voting Palmar when your strongest suspicion is in fact GB, and he really didn't say he would follow GB he took a jab at GB being bad. | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On May 18 2015 12:34 Damdred wrote: GB is kinda weird now though idk what he's doing On May 19 2015 00:01 Damdred wrote: Good you now think the towniest person in the thread is town, nice. Anyeay I don't think GB is mafia just a town You never explained why you thought he was town. | ||
Damdred
15669 Posts
On May 19 2015 07:01 Damdred wrote: Palmar don't leave, you are sure i'm mafia so why not chat </3. Anyway, I don't think Mafia!Palmar and Mafia!GB would so closely align themselves this early by voting as they are doing like you are implying. For example even though GBs reads don't make sense all fo the time they are there and he is taking a firm stance in the thread and trying to guide it to a better spot that he feels it should be in. Also has the 2nd biggest filter at this time I believe, and even though hes dealthy wrong on me he seems to be looking in the general right direction and re-evaluating almost all of the time. And isn't dropping questions and not really following up, it just all looks really towny. So you really need to walk me through this shockey and why you can't do anything when obi and Palmar are still alive. It doesn't make sense to me ....please read | ||
ShoCkeyy
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Damdred
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I'm giving you excellent advice of how mafia teams generally work, if you get one you do not want to be lined up and super associated or else the entire team will go down in quick succession and the game will be lost. Also constant re-evaluation and involved in everything is a highly sought after town role, and this is so much town for gb that its not even funny. You also ignore a lot of points just to make a joke out of a couple of points. You don't even think GB is mafia as you have said so i'm not sure why you are making light of what i'm saying. | ||
sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On May 19 2015 08:26 ShoCkeyy wrote: If you were a town, I'd be going after Shining or Zealous, but it doesn't look that way to me as of yet. Let's get this further. Why? | ||
Damdred
15669 Posts
Damdred GB Obi Mine is completely meta based that I would be willing to talk about. I would like obi and gb to go into their shining reads I think and talk a bit about it, I think gb is town but Obis is a bit strange I think. | ||
GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On May 19 2015 04:26 The Shining wrote: Shining doesn't play very actively at all on Mondays/Tuesdays. He plays at work and doesn't work Mondays/Tuesdays. Check any game I've been in in the past and it's a pre-game excuse, I didn't realize D1 would land squarely on my days off. Also, I'm dying, literally, and I'm omw to the ER. Good thing is, I'll have my phone there so I'll catch up and put out some reads tonight. Also I haven't really read up to date, just skimmed, so if I come back to the policy lynch train, I don't really mind or care. Hopefully I won't die tonight and will be able to come back lmao. /darkhumor + Show Spoiler + All jokes aside, though, I really am town. Should my condition get any worse tonight, I'll just replace out to keep the game fair for my fellow townies and give you a shot to win <3 On May 19 2015 04:31 The Shining wrote: Fck it, I'll just keep posting until I get where I'm going. Stutters, why would you point out we've been in 3 recent games together, call me out saying I "should know" you don't D1 and that you're a bad policy lynch, and then turn around and do pretty much the same to me? If I "should know" you and your D1, you "should know" I open every game just talking shit and defensive to anyone who so breathes my way as town on D1. You should also know I don't play much on Mondays/Tuesdays, similar to your "I dont play weekends" excuse that you said I also "should know." So why the hell do standards for me reading you apply due to past games but you don't apply to the same standards? Seems like a shit attempt at trying to scum me for things I've done in all of my town games, to varying degrees. Damdred, these couple of posts felt really genuine. I don | ||
GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On May 19 2015 04:26 The Shining wrote: Shining doesn't play very actively at all on Mondays/Tuesdays. He plays at work and doesn't work Mondays/Tuesdays. Check any game I've been in in the past and it's a pre-game excuse, I didn't realize D1 would land squarely on my days off. Also, I'm dying, literally, and I'm omw to the ER. Good thing is, I'll have my phone there so I'll catch up and put out some reads tonight. Also I haven't really read up to date, just skimmed, so if I come back to the policy lynch train, I don't really mind or care. Hopefully I won't die tonight and will be able to come back lmao. /darkhumor + Show Spoiler + All jokes aside, though, I really am town. Should my condition get any worse tonight, I'll just replace out to keep the game fair for my fellow townies and give you a shot to win <3 On May 19 2015 04:31 The Shining wrote: Fck it, I'll just keep posting until I get where I'm going. Stutters, why would you point out we've been in 3 recent games together, call me out saying I "should know" you don't D1 and that you're a bad policy lynch, and then turn around and do pretty much the same to me? If I "should know" you and your D1, you "should know" I open every game just talking shit and defensive to anyone who so breathes my way as town on D1. You should also know I don't play much on Mondays/Tuesdays, similar to your "I dont play weekends" excuse that you said I also "should know." So why the hell do standards for me reading you apply due to past games but you don't apply to the same standards? Seems like a shit attempt at trying to scum me for things I've done in all of my town games, to varying degrees. Damdred, these couple of posts felt really genuine. I don't know, it's a tone read. It's hard for me to see mafia faking this ER thing. It's hard for me to see mafia faking the spoilered wording. She could be mafia, but for these tone reads, I think there are better lynches than her. I still have a town lean on her. And I'm about to flip my read on you. Reevaluatin why I scumread you now. | ||
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