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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 20:26 GMT
#361
On May 19 2015 05:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Obviously, I did read his posts which is why I questioned GB to start with, GB is still under my list and I won't truly know until Palmar is gone and now that I mentioned you, you turn around and accuse me with no real reasons and bandwagon once again.


Heh. I've already debunked ALL your arguments against me. You don't even directly attack my post and just says I'm on your list.

You simply decided I'm Mafia and found reasons to call me so. You didn't see weird posts THEN decided I'm Mafia.

So you think obi has been useless, but why not even mention Vivax here?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 20:28 GMT
#362
I'm voting Shockey.

I can't see him coming from town perspective
I'm adorable.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 18 2015 20:36 GMT
#363
@sciberbia Nope, not today at least until Palmar or Obi is down.

On May 19 2015 05:12 Stutters695 wrote:
Then why did you ignore that he clearly said shitlist and it had nothing to do with being mafia?


I didn't ignore it and I never said GB was mafia directly, nor do I think he's mafia yet after throwing posts at him to see his argument style which I didn't much see in the Palmar posts due to reasons. I do however keep him under my list and already have mentioned my claim.

On May 19 2015 05:23 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 05:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Obviously, I did read his posts which is why I questioned GB to start with, GB is still under my list and I won't truly know until Palmar is gone and now that I mentioned you, you turn around and accuse me with no real reasons and bandwagon once again.


@ShoCkeyy
What puzzles me here is that your entire filter seems to consist of you building up suspicion against GB, and then you conclude by saying you will vote for either Palmar or Obi. What do you mean by "I won't truly know until Palmar is gone"?


I still build my suspicion upon GB, but I truly don't have much against him other than him trying to "figure" out whos mafia.

If Palmar is gone and is mafia, then that can mean Obi is mafia as well. GB mentions damdred, Palmar votes first, Obi comes in second 15mins apart to also vote for damdred. Obi gives nothing but w.e posts that don't contribute while Palmar gives random posts as well, both nearly been gone for most of the day (Obi isn't in Palmar shitlist).

This all some how ties GB in here since he is one of the most active players. So I just question him first due to Palmar shitlist and see what kind of posts I can get out of him and I just don't feel like GB is mafia for now.

On May 19 2015 05:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 05:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Obviously, I did read his posts which is why I questioned GB to start with, GB is still under my list and I won't truly know until Palmar is gone and now that I mentioned you, you turn around and accuse me with no real reasons and bandwagon once again.


Heh. I've already debunked ALL your arguments against me. You don't even directly attack my post and just says I'm on your list.

You simply decided I'm Mafia and found reasons to call me so. You didn't see weird posts THEN decided I'm Mafia.

So you think obi has been useless, but why not even mention Vivax here?


Vivax has in my opinion been more helpful

On May 19 2015 01:13 Vivax wrote:
In case anyone's interested I'm leaning scum on Palmar and Obi.

Just from past things and a little re-skim


I started leaning towards Palmar and Obi after reading this.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
May 18 2015 21:01 GMT
#364
On May 19 2015 04:19 sciberbia wrote:
@Zealos
Oh one other thing I wanted to ask you. Why did you say that one of Palmar and Damdred is scum? Were you saying that there is some sort of connection between their alignments, like one is town and the other is scum?

Sorry to throw so many things at you at once. Please try to answer this question and both the questions in my previous post though. Break your answers into separate posts if you want.

Just the interactions at the time made me pretty sure that at least one were scum. I'm not really convinced anymore honestly.
I still think it's likely one of them are scum, based on the fact I'm getting a mafia lean from both of them, but I don't see much of a connection between them anymore.

Having said that, theres not much to go on with Palmar...
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sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 18 2015 21:05 GMT
#365
On May 19 2015 04:16 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 04:03 Zealos wrote:
On May 19 2015 04:01 Onegu wrote:
I really dont like zelous at this point.

First he says only one of palmar or damdred is mafia.

He votes Damdred for not looking like his assassination game. Which doesnt make much sense as my play isnt going to look like that game either.

Then he says we should switch to palmar for???? Not really sure I guess because palmar hasnt done anything...

Then he goes back to Damdred for the same assassination reason.

What changed Palmar still hasnt done anything. So why switch again?

##Vote Zealous

well im safe because you can't spell my name.
also i was unsure over which of Damdred and Palmar to vote for.
I'm pretty certain now that Damdred isn't helping town this game, and I think he's scum.
I get it, they're different games, but the entire posting style is so different and its jarring

Am I correct in saying that you did not play in Assassination? It seems like you are basing your scum read on him mostly on a meta comparison from a post-restricted game that you didn't even play in, which seems very shaky to me.

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 02:04 Zealos wrote:
I really really don't like Damdreds play actually, it's so different from his Day 1 of Assassination Mafia.
He's making so many useless posts and making obnoxious points which can't possibly be helpful to a town team.
Wasting space and time for the thread to progress in the direction of hunting scum too.
I think he's Scum

Can you point to some of the so many useless posts of his that are useless / wasting space and time? Maybe put a collection into a spoiler. Abrasive I will grant you, but it looks to me like the vast majority of his posts have clear content, one of the reasons I think he is town.


@Zealos
OK thanks. Can you answer to these two questions as well?
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
May 18 2015 21:06 GMT
#366
As for Dandreds useless posts:
On May 18 2015 05:48 Damdred wrote:
Sorry no reads or leans on the first 15 posts of the game. Company policy

Lololol this is a hilarious thread.

IDK what to even say, my read on vivax is decent. Read on palmar is ok, read on scib is great.

Just a bunch of baddies

....what? That's a horrible read on shining

Not ego at all I'm just content calling badies bad currently, I'm not needed in any front in this thread when everyone piles up on me

I've literally listed two mafia already who knows about a third one of the people misrepresenting probably or just parroting to parrot

...ive explained why what obi did was scummy and why.

If you want to be basic I suppose so. I'm glad you can take a complex reasoning and dumb it down to the most bare bones to make it look stupid gj

idk how to tell the difference from your normal postings should work on that


None of these posts for me push any town agenda at all.
Futhermore twice in a row he's talking about how easy the game is. I dunno, its not like a super mafia tell, but it just seems like something a town player would be spamming
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
May 18 2015 21:08 GMT
#367
As for the Meta comparison, I didn't play in that game, and I haven't played mafia for ages. I was just looking at the early mafia leans on Damdred, so I checked his filter to compare with his last game.

I then checked again later and it just looks very very different to me.

Even if you guys don't agree with the call of him mafia, at the very worst having the information pointed out/available in thread can only be helpful to town imo
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
May 18 2015 21:09 GMT
#368
Like, I get it might be shaky, but I think it's worth bearing in mind.
I just think although you might make sure to get more content in each post during a restricted game, the whole tone of posting is different
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
May 18 2015 21:18 GMT
#369
Anyway I need to head to bed, and I may or may not be able to post/vote tomorrow morning.
I'm still up for a Damdrool lynch
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sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 18 2015 21:20 GMT
#370
##Unvote

I'm getting too many feelings of activeness/genuineness/fearlessness from Zealos to leave my vote on him.

Currently debating between 2 or 3 people for my vote. I might join in on Shocckey.
Would be nice if Vivax/Palmar would step up.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 21:27 GMT
#371
On May 19 2015 06:20 sciberbia wrote:
##Unvote

I'm getting too many feelings of activeness/genuineness/fearlessness from Zealos to leave my vote on him.

Currently debating between 2 or 3 people for my vote. I might join in on Shocckey.
Would be nice if Vivax/Palmar would step up.


Yeah, I has this strange feeling he is coming from a townie perspective too.

In the other hand, Shockey's push on me is so horrendous that I cannot see it coming from town
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 18 2015 21:36 GMT
#372
I just like the fact that I call three people out today and I'm getting ganged up on like in the beginning with they ganged up on damdred. If it doesn't smell like obvious mafia players, then Idk what is obvious.

On May 19 2015 05:31 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Shockey


On May 19 2015 06:02 Palmar wrote:
##unvote
##vote ShoCkeyy


And Palmar has yet to post.
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sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 18 2015 21:41 GMT
#373
On May 19 2015 06:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I just like the fact that I call three people out today and I'm getting ganged up on like in the beginning with they ganged up on damdred. If it doesn't smell like obvious mafia players, then Idk what is obvious.

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 05:31 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Shockey


Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 06:02 Palmar wrote:
##unvote
##vote ShoCkeyy


And Palmar has yet to post.


@ShoCkeyy
So do you think GB is mafia or not?

You just said that you don't think he is mafia
+ Show Spoiler [ShoCkeyy] +

On May 19 2015 05:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:

I didn't ignore it and I never said GB was mafia directly, nor do I think he's mafia yet after throwing posts at him to see his argument style

...

I still build my suspicion upon GB, but I truly don't have much against him other than him trying to "figure" out whos mafia.

...

I just don't feel like GB is mafia for now.

GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 21:48 GMT
#374
Shockey, if you really think I'm mafia with palmar and obi and that we hard align like that, instead of creating two fronts of mislynches, I don't know what to say to you.
I'm adorable.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 18 2015 21:50 GMT
#375
@sci As mentioned, my suspicion grows of GB but my vote stands - I can't confirm he's mafia until Palmar goes first. Isn't it just weird that Palmar is voting right after GB consistently. Then Obi earlier started to throw my name into the mix after calling him out. Which Obi isn't in Palmar's "shit list", but GB is? Once Palmar goes and he is confirm mafia, then I can truly call GB out for being mafia as well.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 21:51 GMT
#376
On May 19 2015 02:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 23:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Three things:

Instantly votes (to drive discussion ok)
Says he's Vet on first day (weird)
List of people (Creates a list of people in the game who he thinks may be mafia or townie, which didn't really bring anything to the table. It was just copy and paste of some of people's opening posts).

To me, it can either be he's trying to drive away any finger pointing to himself or he's really some one has that has a role.

On May 16 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:
/in

Gonna try a different approach


What if that different approach is being mafia?

On September 12 2014 11:38 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 12 2014 11:09 kushm4sta wrote:
@gb you are being active and i like it.
Scum is probably oats would be my best guess.

Not vivax cause he has tried really hard I guess? it's possible though.
The reason why I want to know how many mislynches we have is I want to know how hard I have to try.
Like if we have 4 mislynches, we can just lynch down a list and win with a very high certainty.


I don't like your idea. I understand it, but I don't like it. You're being too careless here. Making a list and not caring much for mislynches is irresponsible. It makes game easier to mafia, there will be less effort from town and we will have more chances of mislynching townies.

I think you might be mafia for considering it. Being careless, specially now at late game, is pretty much a mafia mindset.



You point out earlier that I instantly vote, comparing it to Palmar's vote, like it is scummy. Then you point out again that I instantly vote, but understands it was for discussion driving only. So why even pointing that out as scummy? And why not raising suspicions on Palmar, for instance? I'm your only scum read as far as I know.

Regarding the veteran claim, it was a joke. You should be able to see it because it was a direct answer to stutters "don't claim unnecessarily" thing. Also, you also admit I could be town trying to take a shot, so I have no idea why are you pointing this out again.

Your opinion on my list post is wrong since you say I only copy paste openings, when that's not it. I was also the first one to bring suspicions on sciberbia, so I do bring something new. Bad reason again. This means you didn't even read something you called me scum for

Then you bring something from pre game to call me Mafia, before I even know my alignment. Sounds like a joke but... Who knows...


Shockey, address to this directly, please.
I'm adorable.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 18 2015 21:52 GMT
#377
Or maybe the two fronts is two posters misguiding the town by throwing votes around, while you act as a vocal townee?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9696 Posts
May 18 2015 21:56 GMT
#378
Why did palmar ninja vote?

I miss you so,
Seems like it's been forever,
That you've been gone.
Where'd you go?
I miss you so,
Seems like it's been forever,
That you've been gone,
Please come back home...
Try TL Mafia!!!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 18 2015 22:01 GMT
#379
Palmar don't leave, you are sure i'm mafia so why not chat </3.

Anyway, I don't think Mafia!Palmar and Mafia!GB would so closely align themselves this early by voting as they are doing like you are implying. For example even though GBs reads don't make sense all fo the time they are there and he is taking a firm stance in the thread and trying to guide it to a better spot that he feels it should be in.

Also has the 2nd biggest filter at this time I believe, and even though hes dealthy wrong on me he seems to be looking in the general right direction and re-evaluating almost all of the time. And isn't dropping questions and not really following up, it just all looks really towny.

So you really need to walk me through this shockey and why you can't do anything when obi and Palmar are still alive. It doesn't make sense to me
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 18 2015 22:05 GMT
#380
##vote: Palmar

Palmar plz
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