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plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 17:31 GMT
#1821
On May 30 2015 02:26 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 02:20 boxerfred wrote:
How likely is it to have only one mason in the setup? Tictok's tunneling way too hard IMHO. However I still think he's the second mason but I want to point out every possibility.


breske would have let us no 0% chance theres only 1 mason


Okay I see for the first time why you guys are so sure about 2 masons... that's quite a good reasoning.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 29 2015 17:31 GMT
#1822
On May 30 2015 02:26 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 02:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 30 2015 00:12 disformation wrote:
On May 29 2015 22:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I actually Wa,t to lynch Sulfurus.

I filter dived, and when I reached the surface I came back up with nothing. Sulf later play has lacked highly. The day 1 was ok, but not enough for a town read.

##Vote:Sulfurus
I'm posti,g from my,phone but I can't really quote anything atm.


if you are town you are making this game a lot harder. that is not very original and looks a lot like sheeping to save your ass...
pretty disappointed so far.
do you have anything else?
your play D1 was way better... getting the feeling you lost interest after scott flipped...


but yeah i dont think we can lynch plotspot today, without finding something amazing...

tunneltoc and waffleboy (thats me in case someone doesnt get it) best team :p

also phone post. will be at home in 30min


Lol, i dont care about the scott flip. Scott did nthing to help us find the other two mafia. We have no reads based on that except for voting and probably high bussing. Im going off of what i know.

How is that not original? I was reading Sulfurus town day 1. Many people have been calling me scummy for this, but i am reevaluating my read.

I gave what I have already. I said we dont lynch any of the claimed roles, and we dont lynch the greenchecks. The greencheck on the other person that was checked could very well be real, and i know the greencheck on me is real because i am town.




yes i do his filter confirmed me/bm and plots. Then you guys went and lynched bm


How did is filter cocnfirm any of that? Its easily possible to bus in this setup.

It's honestly stupid, but it is easy.

dDidnt he call me mafia too?

So does that confirm me?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 17:40 GMT
#1823
On May 30 2015 02:27 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 02:21 disformation wrote:
On May 30 2015 01:48 boxerfred wrote:
On May 30 2015 01:35 batsnacks wrote:
Tiktok don't vote plot. Even if he is the mafia rb he has to do what we say now. We can just make him rb whoever we want and if he doesn't listen we can lynch him.

Good point. Next up on my list would be 27nb or dis. Still saying Sulf is probably town.

##unvote ##vote Disformation


kay. whatevs.
Have you at least read my answer to your question?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=86#1716

Also:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Yes. You still did not answer my question. I was not asking how you came down to that list, I was asking how you said "There is a godfather" and "bunnies is greenchecked and thus a confirmed townie". I can get point one. I can get point two. If you say both at the same time, you create a paradox.


... FFS
Next try:
  1. Make a pool of all people alive.
  2. Remove people with claims and checks and so on
  3. If we randomly lynch one of those people we have a 66% chance to hit mafia IF there is no GF
    [*]IF there is a GF: this chance is 33% IF one of bunnies or barakos is the GF


This is not a paradox...
better?

@sicklucker:
Care to explain why you said BM might be scum in this post:
On May 26 2015 21:37 sicklucker wrote:
Well im pretty convinced. One scum is definitely [b##unvote ]##vote 21ninjabunnies

When she flips ill figure out which one of sulp/barak/boxerfred made up fake reasons to scum read. Could also be bm

Earlier D2 you had him cleared off all suspicion after reading through scott's filter and saying scott spewed him town.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 29 2015 17:42 GMT
#1824
On May 30 2015 02:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 02:26 sicklucker wrote:
On May 30 2015 02:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 30 2015 00:12 disformation wrote:
On May 29 2015 22:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I actually Wa,t to lynch Sulfurus.

I filter dived, and when I reached the surface I came back up with nothing. Sulf later play has lacked highly. The day 1 was ok, but not enough for a town read.

##Vote:Sulfurus
I'm posti,g from my,phone but I can't really quote anything atm.


if you are town you are making this game a lot harder. that is not very original and looks a lot like sheeping to save your ass...
pretty disappointed so far.
do you have anything else?
your play D1 was way better... getting the feeling you lost interest after scott flipped...


but yeah i dont think we can lynch plotspot today, without finding something amazing...

tunneltoc and waffleboy (thats me in case someone doesnt get it) best team :p

also phone post. will be at home in 30min


Lol, i dont care about the scott flip. Scott did nthing to help us find the other two mafia. We have no reads based on that except for voting and probably high bussing. Im going off of what i know.

How is that not original? I was reading Sulfurus town day 1. Many people have been calling me scummy for this, but i am reevaluating my read.

I gave what I have already. I said we dont lynch any of the claimed roles, and we dont lynch the greenchecks. The greencheck on the other person that was checked could very well be real, and i know the greencheck on me is real because i am town.




yes i do his filter confirmed me/bm and plots. Then you guys went and lynched bm


How did is filter cocnfirm any of that? Its easily possible to bus in this setup.

It's honestly stupid, but it is easy.

dDidnt he call me mafia too?

So does that confirm me?


nope get mad about it. His first post was him trying to get on my good side. His second post was pushing plots.His third post was pushing bm.

3 towns spewed by a 3 post mafia.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 29 2015 17:43 GMT
#1825
bm was at like the end of my poe list and I barely mentioned him at the end of my kill reads once. Im not gonna 100% clear him for what scott said but it did hold alot of weight.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 29 2015 17:44 GMT
#1826
On May 30 2015 02:40 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 02:27 boxerfred wrote:
On May 30 2015 02:21 disformation wrote:
On May 30 2015 01:48 boxerfred wrote:
On May 30 2015 01:35 batsnacks wrote:
Tiktok don't vote plot. Even if he is the mafia rb he has to do what we say now. We can just make him rb whoever we want and if he doesn't listen we can lynch him.

Good point. Next up on my list would be 27nb or dis. Still saying Sulf is probably town.

##unvote ##vote Disformation


kay. whatevs.
Have you at least read my answer to your question?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=86#1716

Also:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Yes. You still did not answer my question. I was not asking how you came down to that list, I was asking how you said "There is a godfather" and "bunnies is greenchecked and thus a confirmed townie". I can get point one. I can get point two. If you say both at the same time, you create a paradox.


... FFS
Next try:
  1. Make a pool of all people alive.
  2. Remove people with claims and checks and so on
  3. If we randomly lynch one of those people we have a 66% chance to hit mafia IF there is no GF
    [*]IF there is a GF: this chance is 33% IF one of bunnies or barakos is the GF


This is not a paradox...
better?

@sicklucker:
Care to explain why you said BM might be scum in this post:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 21:37 sicklucker wrote:
Well im pretty convinced. One scum is definitely [b##unvote ]##vote 21ninjabunnies

When she flips ill figure out which one of sulp/barak/boxerfred made up fake reasons to scum read. Could also be bm

Earlier D2 you had him cleared off all suspicion after reading through scott's filter and saying scott spewed him town.


..much better. I like that explanation . ##unvote
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 29 2015 17:44 GMT
#1827
The way bm unvoted me when I unvoted him made me a lil suspicious still
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 29 2015 17:44 GMT
#1828
Also I love how your posts starts with "FFS" and ends with "" :D
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 17:48 GMT
#1829
On May 30 2015 01:59 Sulfurus wrote:
@Tictock please please please don't vote on Plots today. Obviously Batsnacks dies tonight but on the next night Mafia has to kill him since at this point he is a superior medic (he can prevent a KP regardless of who it is on and he confirms a mafia) so there is no point in doing mafia's job for them. This is what I was trying to say with my previous post so hopefully this gets through to you this time.

Right now my POE list is NinjaBunnies, Sicklucker, BoxerFred, and Disformation (no offense to the town on the list, I just think Barakos is townier) so we should lynch one of those names, preferably Bunnies.

And yes if a VT ever gets NK before a blue feel free to go ham on Plots.


This post honestly looks like town getting town to stop doing stuff. Sound reasoning. PoE list looks reasonable. But I'd like to hear a few explanations about that.

27ninjabunnies starts to give me an annoyed/frustrated town vibe... and I kinda have a feeling that D2 was between two town wagons (yeah a feeling is probably not a really solid reasoning, but whatevs :p). I am also not really fond of the odds of lynching into a green check...
On May 30 2015 02:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 00:12 disformation wrote:
On May 29 2015 22:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I actually Wa,t to lynch Sulfurus.

I filter dived, and when I reached the surface I came back up with nothing. Sulf later play has lacked highly. The day 1 was ok, but not enough for a town read.

##Vote:Sulfurus
I'm posti,g from my,phone but I can't really quote anything atm.


if you are town you are making this game a lot harder. that is not very original and looks a lot like sheeping to save your ass...
pretty disappointed so far.
do you have anything else?
your play D1 was way better... getting the feeling you lost interest after scott flipped...


but yeah i dont think we can lynch plotspot today, without finding something amazing...

tunneltoc and waffleboy (thats me in case someone doesnt get it) best team :p

also phone post. will be at home in 30min


Lol, i dont care about the scott flip. Scott did nthing to help us find the other two mafia. We have no reads based on that except for voting and probably high bussing. Im going off of what i know.

How is that not original? I was reading Sulfurus town day 1. Many people have been calling me scummy for this, but i am reevaluating my read.

I gave what I have already. I said we dont lynch any of the claimed roles, and we dont lynch the greenchecks. The greencheck on the other person that was checked could very well be real, and i know the greencheck on me is real because i am town.


So I really need to look into my two remaining choices:
boxerfred and sicklucker...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 17:50 GMT
#1830
On May 30 2015 02:44 boxerfred wrote:
Also I love how your posts starts with "FFS" and ends with "" :D


Yeah at first I was like "Ugh! This is not rocket science!" and then I was like "okay, this is much easier to understand than before."
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 29 2015 17:57 GMT
#1831
On May 30 2015 02:48 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 01:59 Sulfurus wrote:
@Tictock please please please don't vote on Plots today. Obviously Batsnacks dies tonight but on the next night Mafia has to kill him since at this point he is a superior medic (he can prevent a KP regardless of who it is on and he confirms a mafia) so there is no point in doing mafia's job for them. This is what I was trying to say with my previous post so hopefully this gets through to you this time.

Right now my POE list is NinjaBunnies, Sicklucker, BoxerFred, and Disformation (no offense to the town on the list, I just think Barakos is townier) so we should lynch one of those names, preferably Bunnies.

And yes if a VT ever gets NK before a blue feel free to go ham on Plots.


This post honestly looks like town getting town to stop doing stuff. Sound reasoning. PoE list looks reasonable. But I'd like to hear a few explanations about that.

27ninjabunnies starts to give me an annoyed/frustrated town vibe... and I kinda have a feeling that D2 was between two town wagons (yeah a feeling is probably not a really solid reasoning, but whatevs :p). I am also not really fond of the odds of lynching into a green check...
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 02:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 30 2015 00:12 disformation wrote:
On May 29 2015 22:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I actually Wa,t to lynch Sulfurus.

I filter dived, and when I reached the surface I came back up with nothing. Sulf later play has lacked highly. The day 1 was ok, but not enough for a town read.

##Vote:Sulfurus
I'm posti,g from my,phone but I can't really quote anything atm.


if you are town you are making this game a lot harder. that is not very original and looks a lot like sheeping to save your ass...
pretty disappointed so far.
do you have anything else?
your play D1 was way better... getting the feeling you lost interest after scott flipped...


but yeah i dont think we can lynch plotspot today, without finding something amazing...

tunneltoc and waffleboy (thats me in case someone doesnt get it) best team :p

also phone post. will be at home in 30min


Lol, i dont care about the scott flip. Scott did nthing to help us find the other two mafia. We have no reads based on that except for voting and probably high bussing. Im going off of what i know.

How is that not original? I was reading Sulfurus town day 1. Many people have been calling me scummy for this, but i am reevaluating my read.

I gave what I have already. I said we dont lynch any of the claimed roles, and we dont lynch the greenchecks. The greencheck on the other person that was checked could very well be real, and i know the greencheck on me is real because i am town.


So I really need to look into my two remaining choices:
boxerfred and sicklucker...

Yeah, or you and sicklucker *rolls eyes*. You and me are so fucking interchangeable. Since I'm not maf, I'm re-picking up my vote on you. ##vote Disformation. Seriously you're not even trying to understand my reads regarding plots and 27nb, you just keep yolo'ing on people. I'm willing to bet money on you unvoting in a bit and follow the main train anyways. I said it before and I say it again, I do not like this play at all.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 29 2015 18:01 GMT
#1832
I really wanna get RB'ed next night. That would imply two things: a) if I'm a scum member and decide to kill someone I'll be blocked b) if scum decides to not shoot someone to make townies feel like there was no NK due to me being blocked and make me look scum by that, cop survives another night.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 29 2015 18:02 GMT
#1833
also that would strengthen the RB claim a lot - basically doing what batsnacks advised.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 29 2015 18:04 GMT
#1834
also whoever gets roleblocked when a NK happens is basically confirmed town so yeah here we go. Just don't lynch the RB today.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 18:09 GMT
#1835
On May 30 2015 02:57 boxerfred wrote:
Yeah, or you and sicklucker *rolls eyes*. You and me are so fucking interchangeable. Since I'm not maf, I'm re-picking up my vote on you. ##vote Disformation. Seriously you're not even trying to understand my reads regarding plots and 27nb, you just keep yolo'ing on people. I'm willing to bet money on you unvoting in a bit and follow the main train anyways. I said it before and I say it again, I do not like this play at all.


You are awefully quick to pick up that vote after I mention your name.
And I think I already unvoted. (Vote count please?)

But stay with me:
Without the blue claims and myself who is left:
bunnies: who looks not good at all on D2 and D3, but has a green check. Not 100% comfortable to lynch a green check.
Sulfurus: who looked really good D1, did nothing D2, looks at bit better as of today.
boxerfred: Not really sold either way.
sicklucker: Looks pretty good D3, but there are some D2 plays that confuse me and he hasn't even bothered to explain. Also ridic hard to read overall.
disformation: yeah I am not the greatest, but in my mind it is obvious that I am at trying to solve this. I am also trying to show you WHY I am waffling that much. Also since sicklucker tried this already we know that I am not allowed to vote myself.

So. 3+ people on that list are town making the game a lot harder and I am having a hard time deciding who on that list is the scummiest person around.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 29 2015 18:11 GMT
#1836
On May 30 2015 02:42 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 02:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 30 2015 02:26 sicklucker wrote:
On May 30 2015 02:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 30 2015 00:12 disformation wrote:
On May 29 2015 22:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I actually Wa,t to lynch Sulfurus.

I filter dived, and when I reached the surface I came back up with nothing. Sulf later play has lacked highly. The day 1 was ok, but not enough for a town read.

##Vote:Sulfurus
I'm posti,g from my,phone but I can't really quote anything atm.


if you are town you are making this game a lot harder. that is not very original and looks a lot like sheeping to save your ass...
pretty disappointed so far.
do you have anything else?
your play D1 was way better... getting the feeling you lost interest after scott flipped...


but yeah i dont think we can lynch plotspot today, without finding something amazing...

tunneltoc and waffleboy (thats me in case someone doesnt get it) best team :p

also phone post. will be at home in 30min


Lol, i dont care about the scott flip. Scott did nthing to help us find the other two mafia. We have no reads based on that except for voting and probably high bussing. Im going off of what i know.

How is that not original? I was reading Sulfurus town day 1. Many people have been calling me scummy for this, but i am reevaluating my read.

I gave what I have already. I said we dont lynch any of the claimed roles, and we dont lynch the greenchecks. The greencheck on the other person that was checked could very well be real, and i know the greencheck on me is real because i am town.




yes i do his filter confirmed me/bm and plots. Then you guys went and lynched bm


How did is filter cocnfirm any of that? Its easily possible to bus in this setup.

It's honestly stupid, but it is easy.

dDidnt he call me mafia too?

So does that confirm me?


nope get mad about it. His first post was him trying to get on my good side. His second post was pushing plots.His third post was pushing bm.

3 towns spewed by a 3 post mafia.


We dont know you are town.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 29 2015 18:12 GMT
#1837
On May 30 2015 03:09 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 02:57 boxerfred wrote:
Yeah, or you and sicklucker *rolls eyes*. You and me are so fucking interchangeable. Since I'm not maf, I'm re-picking up my vote on you. ##vote Disformation. Seriously you're not even trying to understand my reads regarding plots and 27nb, you just keep yolo'ing on people. I'm willing to bet money on you unvoting in a bit and follow the main train anyways. I said it before and I say it again, I do not like this play at all.


You are awefully quick to pick up that vote after I mention your name.
And I think I already unvoted. (Vote count please?)

But stay with me:
Without the blue claims and myself who is left:
bunnies: who looks not good at all on D2 and D3, but has a green check. Not 100% comfortable to lynch a green check.
Sulfurus: who looked really good D1, did nothing D2, looks at bit better as of today.
boxerfred: Not really sold either way.
sicklucker: Looks pretty good D3, but there are some D2 plays that confuse me and he hasn't even bothered to explain. Also ridic hard to read overall.
disformation: yeah I am not the greatest, but in my mind it is obvious that I am at trying to solve this. I am also trying to show you WHY I am waffling that much. Also since sicklucker tried this already we know that I am not allowed to vote myself.

So. 3+ people on that list are town making the game a lot harder and I am having a hard time deciding who on that list is the scummiest person around.

Yeah keep going at me. Oh you already did what I expected you to do. Now get on a train please. Your pattern switched so fucking hard since there was a coinflip on a scum member on D1. I pointed that out like every single day until now. "You're not the greatest"? More WIFOM please.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 29 2015 18:13 GMT
#1838
BF, that was a weird as f post.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 29 2015 18:15 GMT
#1839
On May 30 2015 03:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
BF, that was a weird as f post.

yeah I can go full plots by now

or you can just explain some things that were brought up against you (also by dis by the way).
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 29 2015 18:17 GMT
#1840
Which were?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
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