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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 18:25 GMT
#1841
Yo.
On May 27 2015 22:41 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 22:40 boxerfred wrote:
On May 27 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote:
@BF
The whole SK thing was some tinfoil hat theory that I liked too much and took seriously. I suggest we go back to ignoring it until we at least find more scum.

I get your thinking on Dis, but to me that's just a sign on him being a new player and not being sure of his own reads. You could probably make this argument about me, but I like pushing what I see pretty hard.

Lets for a moment put aside our thoughts about Dis and SL.

Who are you fairly confident is town?
Where do you think we should look for scum in our shortening list of players?

I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo?

I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me.
I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin.

I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing.

When it comes to scum, I'm still holding the 27nb and SL torch, throwing a bit of disinfo into it.


Wasn't that your last read on 27ninjabunnies? Why aren't you voting her now? Why do you pick me over her? Why not make a case on sicklucker?
Also at this point stating that you are on me since D2 sounds a lot like tunneling. Also If you were town you wouldn't go this mad on the only person really pushing you... do you want to discredit me, so others won't look at my facts this hard?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 18:26 GMT
#1842
On May 30 2015 03:15 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 03:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
BF, that was a weird as f post.

yeah I can go full plots by now

or you can just explain some things that were brought up against you (also by dis by the way).


She already answered that stuff?
On May 30 2015 02:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 00:12 disformation wrote:
On May 29 2015 22:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I actually Wa,t to lynch Sulfurus.

I filter dived, and when I reached the surface I came back up with nothing. Sulf later play has lacked highly. The day 1 was ok, but not enough for a town read.

##Vote:Sulfurus
I'm posti,g from my,phone but I can't really quote anything atm.


if you are town you are making this game a lot harder. that is not very original and looks a lot like sheeping to save your ass...
pretty disappointed so far.
do you have anything else?
your play D1 was way better... getting the feeling you lost interest after scott flipped...


but yeah i dont think we can lynch plotspot today, without finding something amazing...

tunneltoc and waffleboy (thats me in case someone doesnt get it) best team :p

also phone post. will be at home in 30min


Lol, i dont care about the scott flip. Scott did nthing to help us find the other two mafia. We have no reads based on that except for voting and probably high bussing. Im going off of what i know.

How is that not original? I was reading Sulfurus town day 1. Many people have been calling me scummy for this, but i am reevaluating my read.

I gave what I have already. I said we dont lynch any of the claimed roles, and we dont lynch the greenchecks. The greencheck on the other person that was checked could very well be real, and i know the greencheck on me is real because i am town.

-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 18:36:07
May 29 2015 18:35 GMT
#1843
~ Vote Count ~

Sulfurus (3) : batsnacks (X), Barakos (X), sicklucker (X), disformation (X), plotspot, Barakos, 27ninjabunnies
27ninjabunnies (3) : Tictock (X), sicklucker, Tictock (X), Sulfurus, batsnacks
plotspot (1) : Tictock (X), Barakos (X), disformation (X), Tictock (X), boxerfred (X), Tictock
disformation (1) : boxerfred (X), boxerfred
no-lynch (0) : plotspot (X)

Not voting (1) : disformation

Currently, Sulfurus is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Friday, May 29 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), less than 4 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 18:35 GMT
#1844
I am getting the feeling you are only looking at my posts to find some constructed reasons to call me mafia.
Your last post on me also makes barely sense...

So let us OMGUS at each other for a bit. :D
I am a bit annoyed though, since I don't see that helping town... but maybe I can look for scum in piece for a bit now.

##vote: boxerfred
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 18:37 GMT
#1845
EBWOP:
in peace* :D
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 29 2015 18:42 GMT
#1846
On May 30 2015 03:25 disformation wrote:
Yo.
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 22:41 boxerfred wrote:
On May 27 2015 22:40 boxerfred wrote:
On May 27 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote:
@BF
The whole SK thing was some tinfoil hat theory that I liked too much and took seriously. I suggest we go back to ignoring it until we at least find more scum.

I get your thinking on Dis, but to me that's just a sign on him being a new player and not being sure of his own reads. You could probably make this argument about me, but I like pushing what I see pretty hard.

Lets for a moment put aside our thoughts about Dis and SL.

Who are you fairly confident is town?
Where do you think we should look for scum in our shortening list of players?

I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo?

I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me.
I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin.

I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing.

When it comes to scum, I'm still holding the 27nb and SL torch, throwing a bit of disinfo into it.


Wasn't that your last read on 27ninjabunnies? Why aren't you voting her now? Why do you pick me over her? Why not make a case on sicklucker?
Also at this point stating that you are on me since D2 sounds a lot like tunneling. Also If you were town you wouldn't go this mad on the only person really pushing you... do you want to discredit me, so others won't look at my facts this hard?

Just read my posts. I always answered to your questions and will continue do so. I'm am by now simply totally mad that you keep pushing me all the time. I feel like you're tunneling me over and over again and I'm seriously pissed by that. I said so fucking often that I'd love to take you as a town but you're just continuing to push on me. Notice how noone really picked up on your thoughts? You're continously trying to get me over the line, waiting for me to discredit myself. That's not going to happen. You just manage to get me madder and madder.

Okay. I'll now answer your question since I feel like I banging my head against your brick wall will only make my head hurt. I need to calm the fuck down.

I am currently not voting bunnies because I want pressure being put on you, not on bunnies. While you (for some obscure feeling) hold bunnies for town (you feel like "Lynching BM and bunnies might've turned out as a double town flip somehow"), I still don't feel like that. Note that my vote on D2 made the BM train stop, when I voted I had the deciding vote on bunnies. Also note that I said hours ago that I'll be around EoD. I have plenty of time to hop on bunnies (or even on SL if I feel like it).

Next up: why did I not make a case on SL? Because you successfully got me mad. On a more serious note: his posts this day are few only but have a towny and reasonal tone, contrary to his D2 behaviour. That makes me feel a lot like he's carefully trying to sort out who of the (I think) 5 people among who are 2 scum members are town to not mis-lynch anyone now.

Why am I not pressuring bunnies in some way? If you read through my posts of today, you'll see that I poke her over and over again. I'm not letting go of her. Also, cop voting on her puts a lot of weight on her. Regarding the questions people raised towards her which she answered: I feel like there are more questions. Didn't concentrate on this though since I'm still having a scum read on her. Nothing she said made me really reconsider my read.

"Also at this point stating that you are on me since D2 sounds a lot like tunneling." Hell, this is not the first time I point out that I'm on you. This is not the first time I point out that your posting behaviour changed a lot. I also said that you yourself were the one bringing me on the idea of looking for posting patterns.

"Also If you were town you wouldn't go this mad on the only person really pushing you" I think especially if I'm town I'd be upset about that. If I'd be scum, the easiest thing for me to say would be "look dis and me are going at each other anyways don't take him seriously". I think bats even said something like this.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 29 2015 18:46 GMT
#1847
By now I feel like we're tunneling each other and trying to prove each other being a scum member pretty hard. Which is fun and like really destructive.

I am a bit annoyed though, since I don't see that helping town


By now I can see people thinking that we're both scum. Noone would say that we're on the same team by now. I feel like a mad man by now.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 29 2015 19:02 GMT
#1848
I hope bunnies and sulfur are both mafia and that the decision is hard for me because it's actually two mafia. Has anyone that's played with sulfur before give me a meta read?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 19:11 GMT
#1849
batsnacks, if you think bunnies and sulfurus are the mafia pair, then lynching Sulfurus is the mechanically sounder play, because you actually copchecked bunnies. My opinion is that bunnies is just a lazy townie.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 19:12 GMT
#1850
On May 30 2015 03:46 boxerfred wrote:
By now I feel like we're tunneling each other and trying to prove each other being a scum member pretty hard. Which is fun and like really destructive.

Show nested quote +
I am a bit annoyed though, since I don't see that helping town


By now I can see people thinking that we're both scum. Noone would say that we're on the same team by now. I feel like a mad man by now.


*sigh* was halfway through writing a case on you. :p
Sulfurus and 27ninjabunnies still look worse than you. So I should probably make up my mind which of these two I want to lynch.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 29 2015 19:18 GMT
#1851
On May 30 2015 04:11 plotspot wrote:
batsnacks, if you think bunnies and sulfurus are the mafia pair, then lynching Sulfurus is the mechanically sounder play, because you actually copchecked bunnies. My opinion is that bunnies is just a lazy townie.


sulfur is scummier but he's new and this could just be how he plays. I have played a bunch of games with bunnies and this is not how she usually plays town.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 19:25 GMT
#1852
On May 30 2015 04:18 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 04:11 plotspot wrote:
batsnacks, if you think bunnies and sulfurus are the mafia pair, then lynching Sulfurus is the mechanically sounder play, because you actually copchecked bunnies. My opinion is that bunnies is just a lazy townie.


sulfur is scummier but he's new and this could just be how he plays. I have played a bunch of games with bunnies and this is not how she usually plays town.


Yeah, it is really maddening.
bunnies looks bad but has that green check.
Sulfurus looked okay D1 and a few posts today.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 19:32 GMT
#1853
Ok I understand so is Sulfurus scummyness < Bunnies's scummyness + 80% being confirmed town? It's 80% bats. It's like I I give you 10 people (5 scum, 5 townies), and you always read 8 out of 10 correct. If you can say yes, your vote should stay on Bunnies if not you should switch to Sulfurus.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 29 2015 19:42 GMT
#1854
On May 30 2015 04:32 plotspot wrote:
Ok I understand so is Sulfurus scummyness < Bunnies's scummyness + 80% being confirmed town? It's 80% bats. It's like I I give you 10 people (5 scum, 5 townies), and you always read 8 out of 10 correct. If you can say yes, your vote should stay on Bunnies if not you should switch to Sulfurus.


Are you SURE about the math on that? LOL
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 19:50 GMT
#1855
(ignoring reads and meta):
If there is a GF and the 3 blues are legit bunnies is still 5/6 town. That is like 83,33%.
Or did I miss something?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 29 2015 19:54 GMT
#1856
Scott posted more words about sulfur d1 than he did about anyone else. Is mafia roleblocker Scott really going to spend most of his words d1 talking about his scum mate?

Hmmmm
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 29 2015 20:00 GMT
#1857
On May 23 2015 00:59 scott31337 wrote:
I like Rels the most so far, his list post has a lot of good thoughts and questions. Not lynching today.
Tictock seems like his town game so far - Not a D1 lynch

I don't like BM's post here -

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 14:15 Bill Murray wrote:
On May 22 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 12:44 Bill Murray wrote:
I wish you'd lunch me breshke


what do you mean?

Read your post right above where I said that. You literally had a typo 39 seconds before that... It was a joke
On May 22 2015 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
bill murray is lynch bait.

definition - a guy who always looks scummy and gets lynched

not saying dont lynch him but keep that in mind

Completely disagree with you

You must be hyper imposing
On May 22 2015 13:07 Sulfurus wrote:
Unvote Breshke
##Vote: Bill Murray

I am actually astonished at how Murray can make so many posts with out providing anything of value on top of the fact that he has pushed every one of his agenda's in a scummy manner.

In posts 231 - 235 Breshke defends himself and Plotspot in a towny way and reading back Sicklucker is less towny than I thought so Breshke is no longer my top mafia.

First off my name isn't Murray you can call me bill or BM. Call me Murray again and I promise you my vote won't leave you. Second , I don't have any "agenda" other than reading this game and trying to help new players. Who do you think you are? You say I'm voting in a scummy manner but provide no reasoning and no case of your own. You then go on to trying to refute my case on plotspot and Breshke. Cute. I isn't realize we had a white knight in our noobs. I'm just glad town will largely ignore you because you have a whopping five posts on this website and ou obviously don't know what you're doing.



He's trying to incite Sulfurus here using emotion - Calling him a noob, says he doesn't know what he is doing, etc because he used his "last name"? Sulfurus has not replied to this yet, though. Often this is a mafia trait, and doing it to a "noob" so quickly is pretty bad.

Sulf hasn't done much in the game either, and seems tunneled on BM.

Batsnacks could go either way, he needs to set up some Battraps(tm) though, that'd be great.

BM would be at the top of my lynch list at the moment though - but we have plenty of time

Anyone have any questions for me?


Look at how Scott is defending sulfur here from the big bad BM.

I feel like newbie mafia Scott would gravitate toward defending townies over defending his scum mates.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 20:01 GMT
#1858
On May 30 2015 04:54 batsnacks wrote:
Scott posted more words about sulfur d1 than he did about anyone else. Is mafia roleblocker Scott really going to spend most of his words d1 talking about his scum mate?

Hmmmm


Super glad to see that I am not the only one having trouble with this.
btw..
##unvote
Not going to waste my vote.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 29 2015 20:02 GMT
#1859
On May 30 2015 05:00 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 00:59 scott31337 wrote:
I like Rels the most so far, his list post has a lot of good thoughts and questions. Not lynching today.
Tictock seems like his town game so far - Not a D1 lynch

I don't like BM's post here -

On May 22 2015 14:15 Bill Murray wrote:
On May 22 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 12:44 Bill Murray wrote:
I wish you'd lunch me breshke


what do you mean?

Read your post right above where I said that. You literally had a typo 39 seconds before that... It was a joke
On May 22 2015 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
bill murray is lynch bait.

definition - a guy who always looks scummy and gets lynched

not saying dont lynch him but keep that in mind

Completely disagree with you

You must be hyper imposing
On May 22 2015 13:07 Sulfurus wrote:
Unvote Breshke
##Vote: Bill Murray

I am actually astonished at how Murray can make so many posts with out providing anything of value on top of the fact that he has pushed every one of his agenda's in a scummy manner.

In posts 231 - 235 Breshke defends himself and Plotspot in a towny way and reading back Sicklucker is less towny than I thought so Breshke is no longer my top mafia.

First off my name isn't Murray you can call me bill or BM. Call me Murray again and I promise you my vote won't leave you. Second , I don't have any "agenda" other than reading this game and trying to help new players. Who do you think you are? You say I'm voting in a scummy manner but provide no reasoning and no case of your own. You then go on to trying to refute my case on plotspot and Breshke. Cute. I isn't realize we had a white knight in our noobs. I'm just glad town will largely ignore you because you have a whopping five posts on this website and ou obviously don't know what you're doing.



He's trying to incite Sulfurus here using emotion - Calling him a noob, says he doesn't know what he is doing, etc because he used his "last name"? Sulfurus has not replied to this yet, though. Often this is a mafia trait, and doing it to a "noob" so quickly is pretty bad.

Sulf hasn't done much in the game either, and seems tunneled on BM.

Batsnacks could go either way, he needs to set up some Battraps(tm) though, that'd be great.

BM would be at the top of my lynch list at the moment though - but we have plenty of time

Anyone have any questions for me?


Look at how Scott is defending sulfur here from the big bad BM.

I feel like newbie mafia Scott would gravitate toward defending townies over defending his scum mates.


Wouldn't defending teammates too much be a common scum mistake?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 29 2015 20:02 GMT
#1860
disfo are you scum bro?
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