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On May 30 2015 01:21 plotspot wrote:
ok sorry dis, I don't know where you are reading currently but please can you read the last 3 pages and give me an opinion of what you think?
About what exactly?
ticktoc is afraid that one of the blue claims is lying and town will lose if we ignore that. Since you two were yelling at each other since a while and batsnacks claim is pretty legit, he thinks you are fakeclaiming.
You are pretty frustrated of this and try to convince him otherwise.
TBH I think you are both reaching a lot by now.
Just noticed that barakos seems a bit focused on sicklucker and me, but at least he is consistent of that through the whole game. 
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ok, no problem:
On May 26 2015 07:47 plotspot wrote:Barakos: feels genuine. I believe what he says. He has an alerting but inoffensive way of expressing himself and most (if not all) his posts I can say: “hmm yeah I see the meaning behind it”. A possibly strange point which reinforce my town read on him is that he fantasizes about how scum QT looks like here. For me it’s hard to imagine scum would do that, I mean just for the thought of it at all. But here we have a townie imagining how things went in the scum QT and scott’s case is really a strange one, that leaves me wondering whether he betrayed his mates or whether they knew he had some time issues and just deal with it somehow.
On May 27 2015 17:09 Barakos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2015 16:59 boxerfred wrote:
Barakos, if you're so worried about not lynching inactives, why didn't you push on someone more actively and stayed in your lurker role? I did? I made a case against disformation, who was the other wagon D1 and I gave plenty reason to vote SL day two at the time, when the wagons were bunnies and sl. Then I returned to a thread, where all the votes were gone from SL and the wagons were BM and 27nb and when people were talking about doing voteswitches to sulfurus, I once again tried and said i would highly prefer a SL-lynch. @SL: game was disney princess mafia... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/464494-newbie-lviii-disney-princess-mafia
After I skimmed through the game Barakos posted, I realize that my read on him earlier is not good anymore. It was based on mostly his tone. In the link he posted where he wins as the last remaining mafia, he clearly shows an impressive deceiving style, while I felt he has the same tone as here. That’s the reason that made me reconsider the situation, although I didn’t post about it in the thread before I RBed him.
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Tiktok don't vote plot. Even if he is the mafia rb he has to do what we say now. We can just make him rb whoever we want and if he doesn't listen we can lynch him.
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On May 30 2015 01:33 plotspot wrote:ok, no problem: Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 07:47 plotspot wrote:Barakos: feels genuine. I believe what he says. He has an alerting but inoffensive way of expressing himself and most (if not all) his posts I can say: “hmm yeah I see the meaning behind it”. A possibly strange point which reinforce my town read on him is that he fantasizes about how scum QT looks like here. For me it’s hard to imagine scum would do that, I mean just for the thought of it at all. But here we have a townie imagining how things went in the scum QT and scott’s case is really a strange one, that leaves me wondering whether he betrayed his mates or whether they knew he had some time issues and just deal with it somehow. Show nested quote +On May 27 2015 17:09 Barakos wrote:On May 27 2015 16:59 boxerfred wrote:
Barakos, if you're so worried about not lynching inactives, why didn't you push on someone more actively and stayed in your lurker role? I did? I made a case against disformation, who was the other wagon D1 and I gave plenty reason to vote SL day two at the time, when the wagons were bunnies and sl. Then I returned to a thread, where all the votes were gone from SL and the wagons were BM and 27nb and when people were talking about doing voteswitches to sulfurus, I once again tried and said i would highly prefer a SL-lynch. @SL: game was disney princess mafia... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/464494-newbie-lviii-disney-princess-mafia After I skimmed through the game Barakos posted, I realize that my read on him earlier is not good anymore. It was based on mostly his tone. In the link he posted where he wins as the last remaining mafia, he clearly shows an impressive deceiving style, while I felt he has the same tone as here. That’s the reason that made me reconsider the situation, although I didn’t post about it in the thread before I RBed him.
So plots, you also agree it's odd that Bara was saying we shouldn't lynch inactives D1 when it was scott up for lynch, but D2 he was fine with BM?
Also he is pretty happy sheeping bats to lynch inactive Sul today.
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@ Bats
I think RB is invented and he's goon, catchup please
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On May 30 2015 01:31 Tictock wrote:
@ Dis
Notice any shifts in Bara's attitude when lynching inactives?
Hm? The guy who changed his attitude about lynching inactives was boxerfred?
Barakos was set on voting me D1 and set on sicklucker D2.
Thinks sicklucker and me are both his top scum reads, but he is willing to sheep our cop today. Yeah it is not great, but with all the confusing about roles and claims I can understand why he would be willing to do that.
barakos looked solid D1, putting out his own reads (was the first to vote me) and pushes (does 2 cases on me D1). Not that much of unique reads D2, but he has a bunch of interactions with people. Might need to look if he sheeped onto sicklucker D2.
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On May 30 2015 01:37 Tictock wrote:
@ Bats
I think RB is invented and he's goon, catchup please
So you think barakos and plot are both goons and they have created this elaborate ruse to trick us into believing that is a rb?
What happens when no one claims rb tomorrow?
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Eh wait. I think I am confusing boxerfred and barakos a bit. -.-
I'll stop reading thread until I am done with the filter.
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On May 29 2015 21:52 Tictock wrote:
Last thought before I go away.
Nobody claimed RB until N2.
This was well after I started an unhealthy discussion regarding setup speculation.
Could the RB claim just be a scum claim? Barakos and plots being scum members, thus pretending to be blocker and blocked? Maybe besides scum RB, no RB is in.
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On May 30 2015 01:11 plotspot wrote:
But I am not sure, if there were really 2 Masons, 1 Town RB, and 1 Cop, could a 2 GF and 1 RB setup make up for it or even a 4th mafia? Can someone tell me? Like I don't want to tunnel on Tictock again here, if the setup of the above holds.
Do you realize that you're currently again confusing people, though you promised you'd stop? I am confused as fuck now.
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Thus far I've read nothing that would convince me that the RB claim is seriously legit. Also I feel like Sulf's defenses (and the one that tictocks did for him) were really solid.
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Hole crap do I have to keep spelling this out for everyone?
Plots is Mafia Goon. Bara is GF
He was willing to play so crazy today because between the check from bats and his invented RB stuff, which we only have word of through plots and Bara, would give Bara plenty of towncred to ride out much of the game. Especially when Town is so willing to sit around lynching people not talking much.
These 2 people are the only ones saying I made some crazy defense of Sul here, when it's at best a null read.
They are also the only 2 clinging to this RB role, since it's what their towncred relies on.
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On May 30 2015 01:35 batsnacks wrote:
Tiktok don't vote plot. Even if he is the mafia rb he has to do what we say now. We can just make him rb whoever we want and if he doesn't listen we can lynch him.
Good point. Next up on my list would be 27nb or dis. Still saying Sulf is probably town.
##unvote ##vote Disformation
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On May 30 2015 01:47 Tictock wrote:Hole crap do I have to keep spelling this out for everyone? Plots is Mafia Goon. Bara is GF He was willing to play so crazy today because between the check from bats and his invented RB stuff, which we only have word of through plots and Bara, would give Bara plenty of towncred to ride out much of the game. Especially when Town is so willing to sit around lynching people not talking much. These 2 people are the only ones saying I made some crazy defense of Sul here, when it's at best a null read. They are also the only 2 clinging to this RB role, since it's what their towncred relies on.
Dude, listen.
Tonight force plot to roleblock you.
If he doesn't obey, lynch him.
Problem solved.
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I know I have a tendency to go crazy WIFOM, and I was the one who started to suggest weird setups.
This makes sense though. Town should at least be able to agree that plots looks just as bad is not worse than Sul or 27nb and be willing to hear me out for one day.
I really don't want to lynch an inactive AGAIN over other decent targets.
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On May 30 2015 01:47 Tictock wrote:Hole crap do I have to keep spelling this out for everyone? Plots is Mafia Goon. Bara is GF He was willing to play so crazy today because between the check from bats and his invented RB stuff, which we only have word of through plots and Bara, would give Bara plenty of towncred to ride out much of the game. Especially when Town is so willing to sit around lynching people not talking much. These 2 people are the only ones saying I made some crazy defense of Sul here, when it's at best a null read. They are also the only 2 clinging to this RB role, since it's what their towncred relies on.
On May 30 2015 01:41 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 21:52 Tictock wrote:
Last thought before I go away.
Nobody claimed RB until N2.
This was well after I started an unhealthy discussion regarding setup speculation. Could the RB claim just be a scum claim? Barakos and plots being scum members, thus pretending to be blocker and blocked? Maybe besides scum RB, no RB is in.
Thoughts on this?
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On May 30 2015 01:49 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2015 01:47 Tictock wrote:Hole crap do I have to keep spelling this out for everyone? Plots is Mafia Goon. Bara is GF He was willing to play so crazy today because between the check from bats and his invented RB stuff, which we only have word of through plots and Bara, would give Bara plenty of towncred to ride out much of the game. Especially when Town is so willing to sit around lynching people not talking much. These 2 people are the only ones saying I made some crazy defense of Sul here, when it's at best a null read. They are also the only 2 clinging to this RB role, since it's what their towncred relies on. Dude, listen. Tonight force plot to roleblock you. If he doesn't obey, lynch him. Problem solved.
I realize this is an option, but why not him today then asses Sul or 27nb tomorrow?
I'd rather maximize our chance of catching Scum today.
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On May 30 2015 01:47 Tictock wrote:Hole crap do I have to keep spelling this out for everyone? Plots is Mafia Goon. Bara is GF He was willing to play so crazy today because between the check from bats and his invented RB stuff, which we only have word of through plots and Bara, would give Bara plenty of towncred to ride out much of the game. Especially when Town is so willing to sit around lynching people not talking much. These 2 people are the only ones saying I made some crazy defense of Sul here, when it's at best a null read. They are also the only 2 clinging to this RB role, since it's what their towncred relies on.
Even then, you lynch me first, becaus in your twisted world, where this doesn't make sense, you still get a chance of rescuing this shit-read you got on the two of us and not lynch the claimed rb but the claimed town, because then you don't risk lynching your powerrole, which can still save your ass from being lynched ffs...
if you actually believe in this pile of crap of a theory yuo have there I am the lynch, not plots. -.-
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On May 30 2015 01:51 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2015 01:49 batsnacks wrote:On May 30 2015 01:47 Tictock wrote:Hole crap do I have to keep spelling this out for everyone? Plots is Mafia Goon. Bara is GF He was willing to play so crazy today because between the check from bats and his invented RB stuff, which we only have word of through plots and Bara, would give Bara plenty of towncred to ride out much of the game. Especially when Town is so willing to sit around lynching people not talking much. These 2 people are the only ones saying I made some crazy defense of Sul here, when it's at best a null read. They are also the only 2 clinging to this RB role, since it's what their towncred relies on. Dude, listen. Tonight force plot to roleblock you. If he doesn't obey, lynch him. Problem solved. I realize this is an option, but why not him today then asses Sul or 27nb tomorrow? I'd rather maximize our chance of catching Scum today.
But we're not maximizing our chances if we lynch plots today. We maximize our chances to not mislynch him by making him RB someone at night while not changing our chances to lynch scum today and tomorrow.
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