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TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 02:19 GMT
#1749
On May 14 2015 11:17 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 11:12 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 14 2015 11:10 batsnacks wrote:
Okay so VE and HTS are both very decent, high risk, high reward shots. They will have to be dealt with eventually though either via claim or flip.

You're a better shot than either of those two.


Have you read my filter?

It's shorter than mine and at least a third is ether pre-game or useless. Should I have bothered?
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 04:07 GMT
#1762
I'm a little less sure on Marv for a few reasons, but I still think he's town. Mostly tone, thought process, similar reads type of thing. BH I'm thinking might be town. Mostly because of the sheeping Palmer thing. However I think the best reasons not to shoot either of them is that both give significantly more information if you lynch them (or try to lynch them). Right now I'm looking into other people.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 04:30 GMT
#1770
I'm currently look at LS or was before the claim; I'm going to take another peek at VE, HTS, BH and Marv in a bit. And as far as I know, he was interested in the roughly the same group that I was at EoD. I was looking at BM (pre-pardon), You (oats), Vivax and Onegu.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 18:17 GMT
#2020
Well since everyone else is claiming and shooting, I might as well come out. I'm also a recruiting Mason and I've been talking to Marv, Damdred, Rsoultin and yamato. I'm going the relevant bits of what went on from the dead players. It' won't quite be in depth but if you want to ask for more information about it I can fill in more.

Damdred
We discuss the Damdred-GB town-town/mafia-mafia read for a bit and comment on how Sandroba looks really towny
I comment on Oats and LS looking scummy and still want to lynch BM
Damdred thinks BM's recent town games have been above this level and further comments on LS looking not town puppy and asks about Sandroba read specifically
Damdred picks up the sandroba read and comments about it in thread
I comment on how I kinda like BH's comeback near EoN1 on reread and ask why he(Damdred) doesn't have more reads
Damdred says he's been busy at work but has been questioning Xata's alignment and how he think's he's a food chance to be scum
A few food/hungry jokes ensue
Explains the Xata read a bit more fully when I don't quite understand the initial read
I talk about KSC for a bit and how I find him odd
We chat for a second about Trfel's nuke being real, hoping it is so we can just ignore the whole BM situation.
I talk about how I think Marv's town and how Marv things Palmer and VE are town. I explain my VE read a bit. JAT looks unispiring to me but I can't read him well
Damdred comments on JAT/LS being scummy. Xata looking a bit better later on. GB he's unsure on.
Damdred comments on losing Marv Finds Oats weird and specifically his early read on GB (which GB picked up on later that marv liked)
I explain my full read on Oats (expanded later in thread)
I comment on 2 nukes in 1 phase being weird to say the least.
We discuss the voting and Damdred pointed out BM voted to be able to nuke again.
I want to policy lynch BM.
Damdred thinks Vivax is mafia for his response to him (damdred)
Damdred claims day vig and we talk about when to use his power and he wants Marv's input.
We discuss the irony being that I voted against PM games because I'm not terribly fond of the pm circle jerk that always ensues yet end up as a mason.
We discuss Xata a bit more; a bit of rehash of early points and me looking at a specific odd point.
It flows into a reading Vivax and I explain meta read on him more
I still want to policy lynch BM and we argue a bit over allowing BM to shoot again but only a target we like.
I talk about BH's anti-nuke stuff (which GB then posts about and I expand upon)
We talk about yamato and GB. GB looks more and more towny and how Damdred really likes yamato's response to my post.
Damdred doesn't like Oats in an exchange and I talk about Oats in response to Yamato's response.
I comment on Damdred's Xatalos post which looks really good.
And RoL who somehow gives less fucks that Palmer; how Onegu looks bad but how BM pushing him is kinda the towniest thing about Onegu
I want BM shot. Marv disagrees about that point but I post both sides.
Damdred doesn't want to talk about BM on day 2 even if no flip.
From there it's essentially discussion of lynch preference.
I comment on the Vivax/Xatalos thread pressure/votes thing and Damdred really likes it

He didn't really post anything during N1 so there's not much there.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 18:28 GMT
#2029
Rsoultin filter is just kinda a mix of things:
Me and her discussing the things we missed in each others posts
Why she thought Vivax was town (pleb thing) and understanding why Marv, Damdred and I didn't pick up on it
We talk about Marv for a bit and how based on roles/night actions/etc I'm a bit more leary of him.
We come back to talking about my read on her before discussing yamato who I think is town
Discuss the sheeping Palmer thing.
She thinks Bats will flip town but likes shooting RoL. Comments on how BH seems to be a bullshitter regardless of his alignment
We talk about Bats, she thinks the traps make him kinda towny and he's super over excited in pushing them.
I kinda like the overexcited read but thought that he had used battraps more when he was mafia than town
We filter dive LS for a bit together. She ends on him being kinda towny still and I think he's more null-scum.
VE claims and we talk about his role for a bit. We talk about setup speculation with so much KP (which is apparently actually the norm for Ver setups... idk)
She comments on her apparent assassination and how it's clearly from mafia
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 19:56 GMT
#2051
In reading through and a few responses:
I'm not a fan of VE's reasons for Marv to be town. Marv could be confident in his own ability not to be lynched. But VE is town because such a wide variety of his reads have been egocentric.

This is much later on in the day and from a mix of people. Reading people off the pleb recognition is as bad as reading people for being blue or how they use their roles. I'm a bit unsure as Hapa as a host, but it's become pretty standard for hosts to post the VT text as the first post. I would be surprise if mafia didn't get that AND didn't get a vanilla mafia pleb or whatever to tell the team.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#2092
On May 13 2015 23:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
TOWN
21. VisceraEyes
1. marvellosity
3. GlowingBear
4. Trfel
5. sandroba
6. Half the Sky
8. yamato77
11. rsoultin
18. KelsierSC
19. TalkingDead
14. Blazinghand
17. Damdred
23. Vivax
24. Stutters695

MAFIA
2. Onegu
7. Xatalos
9. batsnacks
12. Oatsmaster
15. RebirthOfLeGenD
20. Palmar

IDONTKNOW
10. ObiWanShinobi
13. LightningStrike
16. Bill Murray
22. justanothertownie

This is where I'm at currently. As for my mafia list, Onegu and Xata are pretty much either/or...if one of them is mafia, the other probably is not. They've both done things I would classify as scummy, but Xata was going on and on about Onegu being the Traitor and voted for him (uselessy) D1. I...don't think they do that as mafia/mafia.

Batsnacks is pretty straight-forward. I mentioned earlier how he came into the game early on spouting nonsense, and then when he came back he pretended to have contributions (Sandroba is mafia, but I can't tell you why because ROOOOLLEEEE).

Oatsmaster is more of a tone read. As town I feel like Oats gives fewer fucks what people say and think, and in this game he seems to care a great deal what people think.

RoL is probably mafia because of his repeated promises to contribute and then lack of following through. I think he does this as either alignment, but as town he actually has content in his few bouts of activity. This game we get ZERO content. It reminds me very much of his play in Storm, where he was AFK mafia.

Palmar is just fun to lynch, but I also think he's probably mafia here too. His case on sandroba is laughably bad (in that it ignores the fact that sandroba is capable of everything Palmar is accusing him of as town, and meta-wise sandroba is like never mafia this game) and his responses to people calling it bad are bad (marv is mafia?!?!?!).

Everyone on my town list is there because they're active in the game and seem to be obviously trying to figure it out. My order isn't important (I think most of it is in order of the playerlist) but I moved myself to the top for obvious reasons.

If you're in my IDONTKNOW list then you should probably do something about that before tomorrow.

On May 13 2015 09:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count:


Vivax (8) - BlazingHand, Marvellosity, Xatalos, Half The Sky, KelsierSC, TalkingDead, Justanothertownie, Oatsmaster,
Xatalos (2) - Vivax, LightningStrike
Rsoultin (1) - Onegu
Palmar (1) - RebirthOfLegend
Sandroba (2) - Palmar, Batsnacks
BlazingHand (7) - rsoultin, Sandroba, Yamato77, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Trfel, GlowingBear,

I think I missed some of this a bit earlier. I think I'd rather give Batsnacks a pass than RoL. Both Batsnacks and Palmer voting together on Sandroba as mafia is really, really unlikely. RoL has basically done nothing this game yet is magically right on Palmer; that feels far more bussy to me than not. Onegu and LS aren't bad targets based on them both being smart enough to not throw away their votes. That said, Stutters/Kelsier/Oats/OWS/Trfel/Xatalos are the next people I'd look at.

My reserve on Xatalos (having re-filtered him yet) is that the way things look, no mafia were up for the D1 lynch and rather mafia could just freely organize wherever semi-naturally without having to fear about losing one of their own.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 21:24 GMT
#2098
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

For the most part, Marv made his points but he was happy to let Damdred and I do whatever we felt was best. He was fine with me waiting to join BH so I could watch how votes/wagons formed and he was interested in the Vivax thing despite being high.

Damdred and Marv I picked because I feel like I can read him well and he's a really strong player. Damdred I didn't think woudl try to figure out (or out if he knew) my smurf and Marv wouldn't either as he hates when his smurfs are outed.

Yamato I picked because he's a strong player that I wanted connected in the mason chain.
Rsoultin I picked because I didn't think she had much experience with QT play from both sides and would be easier to get a read on in direct contact

I was going to pick Sandroba and Rsoultin, but Marv wanted to grab Sandroba and he knows Sandroba much better than I do so it was fine.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 21:25 GMT
#2100
On May 15 2015 06:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

very little, TD was the one influencing me and VE was away

I'll take that as a major compliment.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 21:36 GMT
#2107
On May 15 2015 06:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:17 TalkingDead wrote:
I think I missed some of this a bit earlier. I think I'd rather give Batsnacks a pass than RoL. Both Batsnacks and Palmer voting together on Sandroba as mafia is really, really unlikely. RoL has basically done nothing this game yet is magically right on Palmer; that feels far more bussy to me than not. Onegu and LS aren't bad targets based on them both being smart enough to not throw away their votes. That said, Stutters/Kelsier/Oats/OWS/Trfel/Xatalos are the next people I'd look at.

My reserve on Xatalos (having re-filtered him yet) is that the way things look, no mafia were up for the D1 lynch and rather mafia could just freely organize wherever semi-naturally without having to fear about losing one of their own.


Stutters is an uncounterclaimed vig who claimed the shot on scum Palmar. Do you have adequate reason to think he shot his own scumbuddy?

Xatalos was already day-vigged by VE.

Right forgot about Xat.

Re: Stutters. It's mostly setup speculation based around the number of confirmed KP powers. HTS I think is really towny. Yamato and VE are really towny. Damdred is dead. BM is ??? Of the blue claims, I think Stutters and LS are the most likely to not be town. Granted, Stutters is essentially excluded from being mafia under normal circumstances (unless Sandroba shot Palmer which doesn't seem likely); so the reason why I think Stutters is moreso because it's a huge amount of town KP and a night kill is far more in line with 3 party role. I kinda think BM might have just been town and awful; it's not outside of his playbook and it would be rather odd for mafia to have nukes when town can just auto-shoot them down. It's like useless extra KP.

Plus, I find it rather odd that there would be no investigative role OR medic role in the setup. Coroner seems like a natural fit in this setup; or at worst parity cop. But having any of those three in addition to the amount of town KP seems heavily town favored despite the partial flips considering we're told only 5 mafia. If we assume every KP role so far is town, then town has more KP than mafia has members. That's rather excessive and (while yamato pointed out that Ver's game tend to have more KP) I think Hapa would've commented on or changed things.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 21:37 GMT
#2111
On May 15 2015 06:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:29 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 15 2015 06:24 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

For the most part, Marv made his points but he was happy to let Damdred and I do whatever we felt was best. He was fine with me waiting to join BH so I could watch how votes/wagons formed and he was interested in the Vivax thing despite being high.

Damdred and Marv I picked because I feel like I can read him well and he's a really strong player. Damdred I didn't think woudl try to figure out (or out if he knew) my smurf and Marv wouldn't either as he hates when his smurfs are outed.

Yamato I picked because he's a strong player that I wanted connected in the mason chain.
Rsoultin I picked because I didn't think she had much experience with QT play from both sides and would be easier to get a read on in direct contact

I was going to pick Sandroba and Rsoultin, but Marv wanted to grab Sandroba and he knows Sandroba much better than I do so it was fine.


So you guys knew marv was a mason recruiter also?

i claimed to TD

Yah, it was a bit weird when he claimed to me.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 22:10 GMT
#2125
On May 15 2015 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 15 2015 06:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2015 06:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:32 sandroba wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:25 Palmar wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:19 sandroba wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:09 Palmar wrote:
you're right that was a bit dick-ish, sorry LS

But the point stands. Sandroba not posting as mafia in one game does not mean he cannot post in another, and because of the filter limitations it's not exactly hard to post 3 pages of stuff in one game.

Same with RoL. He's lazy and shit as either alignment. But he did jump a dumb remark from me (apparently a lot of people here are literally sheldon).

Like maybe I'm just wrong and bad about sandroba, projecting my own personality on him too much but he's now done two things this game where I just think "If I was towndroba in this situation I'd have reacted completely differently". Aside from my initial point about how him saying he'd keep an eye on marv was basically a pointless sentence that doesn't fit in (If he doesn't say that, can we then assume he's not keeping an eye on marv? Isn't the default position in all mafia games to always keep an eye on everyone?), there is more too.

1). Sandroba's reaction to me calling him scum.

On May 11 2015 23:30 sandroba wrote:
[quote]
fixed it for you.

I wouldn't mind killing jat either.


Dismissal. He doesn't defend against my point and he doesn't try to use it to pry into my own alignment. He just outright dismisses my stuff, only to come back later and say:

On May 12 2015 19:55 sandroba wrote:
[quote]
If you believe so, I want you to tell me why that is. I can't tell if you are trolling/tunneling aimlessly or you actually believe what you are saying.


Which implies he doesn't know why I think he's mafia, when I had already explained it then.

Also

2). His reaction to the BM pardon.

Sandroba literally just made this case on BM:
On May 12 2015 19:34 sandroba wrote:
I think we do need to lynch BM today. The bullshit level in his posts is a lot higher than anything I've seen from him. It is still possible that he is town and using a large quantity of drugs but that I cannot account for, and unless someone can confirm him town so he can be safely ignored we will need to deal with him at some point and I would prefer if it was today. One example of the BS he is pushing that I think points to him clearly lying on purpose and not being on drugs is this post:
[quote]
He is clearly nit picking and ignoring parts of trfel post. trfel states that he is going to be back in a few hours to this game but BM does not bold that part and bolds parts that change the meaning of the post. Also he flat out lies about the time elapsed between the 2 posts, which was 4 hours, not one, in accordance to the part BM chose to overlook in his first post.
Conclusion is I think he is doing it on purpose and is mafia for it.
##vote: BM


And his primary scumread gets pardoned.

This is fucking sandroba people. Not some random scrub who doesn't know jack shit about the game. Again, I may be projecting my own personality but I'd be so mad at this.

Think how I would've reacted if anyone would've pardoned GB in mini mafia mini thing or someone had pardoned WoS in noir 3. I was mad enough with people just not listening to me. But someone actively shutting me down? Fuck that.

I don't think sandroba cares, I think he didn't defend my case and instead chose to dismiss it and I think my initial point was very good.

We should lynch sandroba.


Palmar is scum. This post is the biggest BS in this thread besides bill murray. You are not projecting anything, you know how I play and "sandroba isn't defend against my case" is completely dumb since you posted something retarded that I dismissed as troll. You aren't reading anything, you are trying to force this read and haven't given any insight on any of the suspicious people that are being discussed. We should lynch palmar.


Dismissal count: 2

Go on

And yes, I told you didn't think BM is mafia and I still don't think he is. There is no reason at all for him to antagonize a ton of potentially strong townies and to use nukes randomly as mafia. I loved Gb's pardon and I also had already given a semi-tone read on him.

I've talked about rol and I've talked about you. I've hinted I think VE is town.

So yes, I have given plenty of insight.



So you are saying I'm mafia because
1: I said i would keep my eye on marv (????)
2: I didn't rage at GB who I think is town. (????)
Which is completely retarded and doesn't make anyone mafia in any world.
Despite my current level of activity and the content which I'm posting which I abosolutely never do as mafia because simply I can't keep up. Knowing who the scum team is simply crushes my interest and I have to try really hard to even pretend I have a scum read and I'm a lot more sucint and direct about my reads which I can't justify.
You've talked about RoL who I'll give a prise to anyone who can guess his alignment at this point with a good margin of success. You've said you think VE is town, but didn't say why. You haven't talked about Xatalos and Vivax at all which are the main people being discussed. You simply ignored what I've pointed out about BM and read him town randomly. Palmar isn't this bad. He is mafia.

I'm not sure I get the rationale of a mafia-Palmar honing in on a target with the history that you have with each other. Palmar's played plenty of games with you (probably only more with me + VE) and realistically if he wanted to choose a prominent player to target, he should have chosen me, because he loves to scumread me no matter my alignment. Instead he chose you, when (if i'm wrong, correct me) you have quite a good history of trying to read each other.

I like to think I am pretty good at reading Palmar normally and he can easily get into stupid dumb tunnels as town

in the situation of sandroba-town and palmar-mafia, gunning for you seems like a kinda suicidal play with no upsides for him, so i think this can be town-town


Are you sure?

That was made a few irl days ago so ofc we now know it was Town on Scum there between Sandroba and Palmar.


LS, you don't get it.

Marv makes a mason qt with both palmar and VE. He doesn't trust these guys to tell them he was RECRUITED in another qt, but he trusts Damdred, Yamato AND TD (which he trusts is another town mason) to say he IS a POWER ROLE???

Then he ASKS to let Sandroba being added to his qt, and Sandroba is dead at night, and rsoultin is shot at the exact moment she starts suspecting marv and VE

Like, come on.

like NONE of this is how it happened

I trusted TD, I am only in a QT with TD, I didn't tell anyone else but him, yamato and Damdred are nothing to do with it?

I didn't "ask" to let sandroba be added to my QT, where are you getting this trash from?

Basically this. If you got that from my post, then you've got the wrong assumption entirely.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 22:57 GMT
#2130
Thanks Marv! Lol

This whole conversation is absurdly ridiculous. The level of stupid introduced into this thread is insane. Have you not noticed how things have gone from semi-discussion about people to instead be a handful of people talking about what boils down to mechanics and exceptionally ridiculously risky wifomy plays. Yam was right I shouldn't have outed. But that's because most of you are acting too stupidly and not bothering to think or analyze the game whatsoever.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 22:59 GMT
#2131
Like VE is essentially being a voice of reason here. That should alert you that you're really out in fucking lalaland.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 15 2015 00:49 GMT
#2142
On May 15 2015 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
2 town recruiters also seems sketchy.
How does your role work exactly td? Is it just choose 3 people at the start of the day to create a 1:1 qt?

How about you explain how 2 recruiters seems sketchy when we've seen 2 day vigs and 2 nukers when there's also at least 1 Kingmaker and at least 1 night vig first. Of course, none of this is including pardoner, an anti-nuker, claimed martyr or any potentially other existing investigative role? Yet you seem to think that recruiter # 2 is the sketchy role. Explain bish.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 15 2015 01:23 GMT
#2147
On May 15 2015 09:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Because recruiters are super fucking good. And your recruiting method is different from marvs in a way that's better for scum. Also marv didn't die n1

Right so the argument that you're making is because of the mechanics of my role I'm scum. By that same token, the mechanics of all of the KP roles make them scum as well.

Why don't you just admit that you're doing the exact same thing you've done all game? You know, find an excuse to push somebody regardless of actually thinking about their play whatsoever. Really, you're just calling people scum based on really fucktarded reasons just so that you can look like you have, you know, actual reads. You know, just ignore how I've used the role, who I've recruited, why I've recruited them, anything that I've discussed with them, anything that they've had to say about me. Basically like anything actually important to the game.

Last I remember Oats, you didn't believe in the too dumb to be scum heuristic. I guess it's because you've proved that you can be both both a idiot and mafia at the same time. We'll just go ahead and lynch you now. Thanks for showing your true colors though
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 15 2015 01:51 GMT
#2149
On May 15 2015 10:10 Stutters695 wrote:
Catching up. Is TD really calling me a scum possibility? Lol

No. The way for you to be mafia is that sandroba shot Palmer, then you claimed the shot afterwards. I said there's a chance of you being 3P and that's why I don't think you should be fully off the table considering you're amazing play. Learn to read.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 15 2015 02:28 GMT
#2151
On May 15 2015 10:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On May 15 2015 10:23 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 15 2015 09:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Because recruiters are super fucking good. And your recruiting method is different from marvs in a way that's better for scum. Also marv didn't die n1

Right so the argument that you're making is because of the mechanics of my role I'm scum. By that same token, the mechanics of all of the KP roles make them scum as well.

Why don't you just admit that you're doing the exact same thing you've done all game? You know, find an excuse to push somebody regardless of actually thinking about their play whatsoever. Really, you're just calling people scum based on really fucktarded reasons just so that you can look like you have, you know, actual reads. You know, just ignore how I've used the role, who I've recruited, why I've recruited them, anything that I've discussed with them, anything that they've had to say about me. Basically like anything actually important to the game.

Last I remember Oats, you didn't believe in the too dumb to be scum heuristic. I guess it's because you've proved that you can be both both a idiot and mafia at the same time. We'll just go ahead and lynch you now. Thanks for showing your true colors though

I dont care what you did in your mason chat. And im not gonna lynch you today. You just arent town.


Please claim mafia harder.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 15 2015 02:38 GMT
#2153
On May 15 2015 11:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On May 15 2015 11:28 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 15 2015 10:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 15 2015 10:23 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 15 2015 09:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Because recruiters are super fucking good. And your recruiting method is different from marvs in a way that's better for scum. Also marv didn't die n1

Right so the argument that you're making is because of the mechanics of my role I'm scum. By that same token, the mechanics of all of the KP roles make them scum as well.

Why don't you just admit that you're doing the exact same thing you've done all game? You know, find an excuse to push somebody regardless of actually thinking about their play whatsoever. Really, you're just calling people scum based on really fucktarded reasons just so that you can look like you have, you know, actual reads. You know, just ignore how I've used the role, who I've recruited, why I've recruited them, anything that I've discussed with them, anything that they've had to say about me. Basically like anything actually important to the game.

Last I remember Oats, you didn't believe in the too dumb to be scum heuristic. I guess it's because you've proved that you can be both both a idiot and mafia at the same time. We'll just go ahead and lynch you now. Thanks for showing your true colors though

I dont care what you did in your mason chat. And im not gonna lynch you today. You just arent town.


Please claim mafia harder.

You keep doing this shit where you incite people and never actually engage in meaningful conversation.


You literally said:
1. I don't care what you did in your mason chat.
2. You're not going to lynch me today
3. I'm not town
What is there to interact with there? You're flat out ignoring some reasons to in the least consider me town; that's not even considering the QT's in conjunction with my filter. You're flat out saying that I'm a non-town entity. You're flat out saying you don't want to lynch me today. Under what circumstances could any of that make possible make a lick of sense?

There's literally nothing else to say about that.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 15 2015 17:45 GMT
#2226
On May 16 2015 02:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On May 16 2015 02:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 16 2015 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 16 2015 02:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Btw, I forgot to mention it last night but I thought that TD looked better in the back-and-forth than Oats. It did kind of seem like Oats was being unreasonable.

More like TD is over defensive and doesnt know how to read.


Dnu. Maybe. Specifically I remembered the post where you said he wasn't town, and then he broke it down and why he couldn't argue with it and it reminded me of the position I was in several games in a row.

well no, I said he wasnt confirmed town.

He chose to take it like I was saying he was 3p or scum.


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