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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 16:21 GMT
#1157
Ah, that game. Lol. I played quite unorthodoxly in that game though, focusing on defending teammates and plainly pushing scum agenda (relying on my bussing scum meta). It didn't go too well in the end.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 16:24 GMT
#1158
What was your reason to townread LS exactly? You said something about a silly smurf sidebar....?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 16:24 GMT
#1159
Your reads are just generally too weird for me to understand.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 16:29 GMT
#1161
I'd like that list. I simply can't understand your read progression on me as it is nor your read on LS.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 16:33 GMT
#1162
Vivax could well be scum though. It's his tendency to be rather useless as scum and that's what he's being like here.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:00 GMT
#1172
On May 10 2015 09:05 Onegu wrote:
Im Town GRUMBLE GRUMBLE... My previous 46% is taking a hit. Im not happy about this one bit...


On May 10 2015 09:57 Onegu wrote:
Man I really hope I get the traitor just realized I can get that. Then I can be scum!!!


Tbh I think Onegu *is* actually soft claiming Traitor here. "Not happy about being town", "I want to be scum".... Even with the actual word "Traitor" in there. It's pretty blatant, yeah, but it would make sense to be somewhat obvious to get the scumteam to notice you. I think he just went slightly overboard there while doing that.

On May 11 2015 05:13 Onegu wrote:
@ TalkingDead Traitor is totes in this game... Read OP, but I cant be it because I didnt read hapas post...


Then there's this... Basically he's defending himself using the argument that he was too stupid / didn't think when posting that. It just feels off that he would specifically defend himself using the "dumb" argument. I get the feeling that he planned it out and was preparing to use that defense just like this after fulfilling the purpose of signaling the scumteam.

He's also not really interested in figuring the game out at all. He's just wasting his N0 posts, continues wasting his D1 posts (giving some shallow reads and one-liners like going through the motions, but otherwise nothing noteworthy)...


On May 13 2015 01:52 Onegu wrote:
## Give 5 posts to Rsoultin

Just so I can see her rage some more.

Some more hearts. She is still scum though.


+ Show Spoiler +
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His most recent post showcases the lack of interest in anything useful, even going so far as to push scum agenda (simultaneously wasting his posts and fueling the fire/chaos in thread).

On May 12 2015 08:08 Onegu wrote:
I really doubt a scum BM would fire to nukes.


Weird defense of BM? I really don't get what this is supposed to mean. Unfortunately we apparently can't know BM's alignment anymore.

On May 12 2015 00:16 Onegu wrote:
Ok so here is why Trfel is town. The way he tried to nuke back immediatly looks townie. Like I have a feeling that scum would already know there are nukes in the game, and the way he did it makes him really townie to me.

Lol @ Marv. Such a shit read on me, I want to roll scum and the fact that I used 3 !, just confirms the fact that I wanted to be scum or able to be scum.

People saying BH should be lynched for TMI is also terrible, If I had a anti nuke I would have stopped it also. Also marv saying it is bad to stop it right away is odd. Like what info are you expecting to get? I feel like this is more blue hunting, maybe finding out who has more anti nukes.

<3 GB for the defense but it was such a shit read you get no points from me for now.

Why is Rsoul getting town read so hard so fast. I know she can look really townie but Im not seeing it. She seems almost lazy to me. Her reads arent that intense either. I know she never has confidence in her reads but still they are normally stronger. Seems soft to me. If she rolled scum and I didnt Im going to be upset. Since this isnt a PM game here is my mandatory non town read on her <3.

I really want to see if BM's second nuke goes off. I think I would find it weird if he can fire 2 nukes in one day.

LS seems less active than I am used to also. Maybe its just a post restriction game.

Yamato could be mafia, see what he does today since he doesnt work. Would be funny if hapa troll rolled him scum.

Could totally sheep Palmar, He is playing and he catches dem scum.

Still have a few filters to read but these are my thoughts off the top of my head.



Also really no one else is wondering how we are in ancient rome and there are nukes going off? I mean srs...





This is pretty much his biggest contribution to the game. Pretty... inconclusive / weak. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't the only thing he did so far.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:03 GMT
#1173
I think Onegu is pretty certainly a Traitor. Everything fits, from the Traitor breadcrumb to his lack of interest in doing anything remotely related to scumhunting.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:09 GMT
#1176
Much more comfortable with that than LS...

##Unvote
##Vote Onegu
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:23 GMT
#1183
On May 13 2015 02:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 02:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 13 2015 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Although Xatalos in here Traitor hunting looks bad too. Whatever.


What's wrong with traitor hunting?

It's akin to SK hunting as mafia - something that isn't super optimal for them to be in thread doing, but somethign they can do to feign actual contribution to the hunt for mafia.


Well, even if I was scum finding a Traitor, it'd be a win to lynch him no?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:25 GMT
#1184
As for actual scum, Vivax would probably be one based on meta and LS still sends my alarm bells ringing with several of his posts.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:26 GMT
#1185
Maybe rsoultin too, her read progression frankly borders on impossible and she just went away when I asked her to explain.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:31 GMT
#1191
On May 11 2015 08:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Sandros shit seems really planned out and fake.

Like this post right,
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 05:36 sandroba wrote:
marvellosity's intro is another one that I found pretty meh as well. I would expect more inquiries from him, maybe all condensed into a single post to adapt to the post cap. Instead I found nothing besides a read that I dissagree with. I'm going to keep an eye on him.

marv doesnt do that.

And a scumread for not posting is pretty bad considering the general lack of content.

And i really fucking hate lists posts man, seriously dont post a huge list of nonsense.
Talkingdead especially.

Is that rayn?





On May 11 2015 10:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rsoul, just cause you don't town read someone it doesn't mean they are scum.
Give me one reason why marv is scum.

Sandro just made a completely unnecessary post calling gb town when nobody is even talking about gb. Why did you make that post Sandro?
Also your points involving td are that he has a weird read on gb and damdred?
Why is that read scummy?



On May 11 2015 13:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 12:29 sandroba wrote:
On May 11 2015 12:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 11 2015 12:20 sandroba wrote:
If I'm wrong about this TD thing, which certainly I'm considering, I think Oats and yamato both look quite bad. I'm feeling better about damdred already.


I can understand the yamato read.

Why Oats?

Random read on me which is illogical and nitpicky. Random defense of marv.

You are town.
Marv is not scum yet.


I can't explain what Oats is doing with his reads either. What happened to your scumread on sandroba suddenly, Oats? You're accusing him for a while and suddenly he's just incomprehensibly town.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:34 GMT
#1195
On May 13 2015 02:30 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 01:27 rsoultin wrote:
61/75

heh -_- i knew i was close but i didn't think i was this close

give me posts and i'll talk to you. otherwise, read my filter. it's amazing how easy it is to find things i've already said in there -_-

i may even, amazingly, be willing to do a list post in collegiate writing just for the people who constantly complain about brain cancer and have trouble with simple reading comprehension ^^


more like i'm being a bitch xDDDDDDDDDDD

because you either can't fucking read which amusingly what i was just complaining about, or you literally started asking me questions, trying to get a list post out of me when i had no posts...while not giving the posts i specifically asked you to donate if you wanted a conversation with me ^^ and given you're now trying to use it as the basis of your scumread, i'm definitely leaning toward the second option

frankly, very few things irritate me as much as having to repeat myself, especially in a post restrictive game when i'm naturally spammy

i'll address things in my own time


##Give 1 post to rsoultin

There.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:48 GMT
#1199
I think I'm the first one to vote for Onegu. Besides BM I guess....

That's what you get for being AFK until near deadline. It's not very likely that your scumreads will be completely original at that point, but nothing you can do about that. I've just been AFK, that's all.

I haven't even called Oats scum btw. I was just wondering whatever happened between those posts. He did post that post you mentioned a lot later but sandroba was already playing a lot different from his scum meta earlier. Why was he scum then? And not anymore?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:54 GMT
#1200
On May 13 2015 02:47 rsoultin wrote:
62/76

fine. i'll play ball, but only because i think there might be some random townie out there similarly incapable of reading

my read progression on you isn't strong because my read on you isn't strong. i was sheeping damdred as a townread who has demonstrated in the past that he is much better at reading you than i am. my filter makes that clear a million times over, which is why i know you're not reading ^^ oh, that and you've shown an amazing ability to not read entire posts of people who are in the thread talking with you at the time

you may think it's cute to sheep ksc's awful read, but i don't. he sits here and changes his mind based on little then thinks it's scummy for others to? a "180" on someone you don't have a strong lean on in the first place is not a "180" and if either of you genuinely believe that you're imbeciles ^^

as for ls...

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote:
12/60

On May 12 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote:
On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:
On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv

honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.

btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.


On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.



Really simple question dudes. What happened to BM here?


ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point?

@xata

don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it

kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch


let me make this really, really simple for you. i have a tendency to read ls town. i'm aware of it. but him going out of his way to collect meta on anyone is usually a sign that he's town, and that he specifically said "and then i'll report back!" is specific phrasing i've only seen him use as town. could he imitate it, and could i be wrong again, sure. this is a lean. as in a WEAK read

any more questions as to why reads that i say are weak or leans are "weak"? cause this is a stupid push


Dunno when I have called your reads weak or actually pushed you? You could try reading yourself. I just said that your reads were near impossible to understand and that you might be scum for that and your convenient read progression on me (basically adapting to thread sentiment all too well).

You wouldn't be my preferred lynch today by far though.

I guess you might have your own way of reading LS, but it hardly warrants calling my read on him trash. It's mostly gut feeling, I admit, it's just that I've rarely gotten such a spider sense of someone being scum just from their all too vague / fluffy posting style.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 18:03 GMT
#1203
On May 13 2015 02:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 02:48 Xatalos wrote:
I think I'm the first one to vote for Onegu. Besides BM I guess....

That's what you get for being AFK until near deadline. It's not very likely that your scumreads will be completely original at that point, but nothing you can do about that. I've just been AFK, that's all.

I haven't even called Oats scum btw. I was just wondering whatever happened between those posts. He did post that post you mentioned a lot later but sandroba was already playing a lot different from his scum meta earlier. Why was he scum then? And not anymore?

Why is Onegu more scum than Vivax or better - why could Vivax be town? Because that's who we are lynching.


Honestly I don't see any reason for Vivax to be town. I just see even less reason for Onegu to be town. Complete apathy shines through his filter and the Traitor breadcrumb tops it all.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 18:07 GMT
#1207
On May 13 2015 03:01 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 02:54 Xatalos wrote:
On May 13 2015 02:47 rsoultin wrote:
62/76

fine. i'll play ball, but only because i think there might be some random townie out there similarly incapable of reading

my read progression on you isn't strong because my read on you isn't strong. i was sheeping damdred as a townread who has demonstrated in the past that he is much better at reading you than i am. my filter makes that clear a million times over, which is why i know you're not reading ^^ oh, that and you've shown an amazing ability to not read entire posts of people who are in the thread talking with you at the time

you may think it's cute to sheep ksc's awful read, but i don't. he sits here and changes his mind based on little then thinks it's scummy for others to? a "180" on someone you don't have a strong lean on in the first place is not a "180" and if either of you genuinely believe that you're imbeciles ^^

as for ls...

On May 12 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote:
12/60

On May 12 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote:
On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:
On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv

honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.

btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.


On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.



Really simple question dudes. What happened to BM here?


ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point?

@xata

don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it

kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch


let me make this really, really simple for you. i have a tendency to read ls town. i'm aware of it. but him going out of his way to collect meta on anyone is usually a sign that he's town, and that he specifically said "and then i'll report back!" is specific phrasing i've only seen him use as town. could he imitate it, and could i be wrong again, sure. this is a lean. as in a WEAK read

any more questions as to why reads that i say are weak or leans are "weak"? cause this is a stupid push


Dunno when I have called your reads weak or actually pushed you? You could try reading yourself. I just said that your reads were near impossible to understand and that you might be scum for that and your convenient read progression on me (basically adapting to thread sentiment all too well).

You wouldn't be my preferred lynch today by far though.

I guess you might have your own way of reading LS, but it hardly warrants calling my read on him trash. It's mostly gut feeling, I admit, it's just that I've rarely gotten such a spider sense of someone being scum just from their all too vague / fluffy posting style.


63/76

this is literally the last post i'm wasting on this discussion. literally. the last.

no you did not specifically use the phrasing "weak". you implied it. you implied my read progression doesn't make sense and called me scum for it. that is pushing me. perhaps we define it differently, but you are pushing suspicion in my general direction, a suspicion i might add that is practically word-for-word the same as ksc's...one of the patterns damdred was talking about about you iirc

nor did i call your read on him "trash". i didn't like that it was THE ONLY thing you were pulling from the thread. ls could be scum. statistically and based on my light read he's more likely town, and he is an ALL TOO EASY mislynch, so you focusing on him and ONLY him is not a good sign for you, xata

of course i'm not your "preferred" lynch today. i'm never getting lynched today, and certainly not for this nonsense. congratulations, though ^^ i'm almost at the point where i feel comfortable voting you based purely on my own read, mr. parrot. i'll readdress when i'm not as irritated -_-


Good riddance then. Btw if you think LS was the only thing I had a read on (or even a strong read on) earlier you're quite mistaken.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 18:15 GMT
#1209
What's aperture Obi?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 18:22 GMT
#1211
lol

And is he otherwise similar?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 18:34 GMT
#1216
Hm.... I don't see a huge difference between his Aperture game and this game. Then again I don't see a huge difference between his Ippo game and this game either (he was town but I thought he was pretty scummy in that game). Is there something that sets his town/scumgame apart?

Btw hahahaha I feel like I'd be a bad person for lynching him now

On May 01 2015 16:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I hope Xat doesn't die.

I do enjoy having him around.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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