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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On May 11 2015 01:34 Half the Sky wrote: 2/10 I'm back. Catching up. Though this jumped at me and I see others are saying it. It's generally a scum tendency to not want to draw attention to themselves. Why are you afraid to lean one way or another on someone? Generally when you meta read someone or compare points on meta you're a bit more confident. In Newbie LX I was scum, but here if my entrance is not great, I only "could" be scum? I'm a bit confused by this HTS, i;m reading through the Newbie LX game and in that LS seems to not be calling you scum at the beginning but you are claiming he strongly meta read you as scum that game? On January 05 2015 09:28 LightningStrike wrote: Are you implying that HTS is scum for her post? I don't see it scream scum. Also I don't got a How To Find Scum Guide ready just yet. On January 06 2015 11:46 LightningStrike wrote: Guys I just got back and I will fully explain my thought process on the stuff. #1 @Exo I had some reads that I said I needed more posts to figure out their alignment so I should of just said Null instead of the comments I said and I know I don't have any real scum reads just yet and I still trying to figure out who is scum and who is not atm #2 @JarJarbinks I'm a guy not a girl gosh you and Robik keep calling me a girl -.- But thanks for the defense but that HTS post that everyone over analyzed not mine. #3 @HTS After reading some posts I decided to just read as Null but leaning town after people told me his post was a drive by post and left a lot to be desired but now I starting to town read him #4 @Everyone here I now going to full explanation of my reads 1. rsoultin: Town: she been trying hunt for scum like her normal self in Student Mafia IV and Carol of the Bells Mafia where she was Vanilla Town in both games. 2. Half the Sky: Town: She made some silly posts at the start yes but everyone over analyzed them but not unusual from her type of entrance since she did similar entrances in Student Mafia IV and Carol of the Bells Mafia and she been asking some good questions towards The Shining and been following through her questioning and also defended her posts in a manor I feel townie from her. 3. ExO_ Town: He actively been scum hunting throughout today and trying to pressure people and normally this type of behavior comes from town players and honestly I not really confident in my scum reads unless it's based on meta on players I played with in other games. 4.Tubesock: Null leaning town: His posts seem to lack any content but his posting style seem to be the same as he did on Carol where I mislynch him like a dumbass in that game but I looking foward to solidify my town read on him. 5. -Celestial-: Town: He been trying to scum himself but he seem to lack confidence on his end on his reads which is something I notice on newer players on forum mafia coming from SC2 Mafia but he doing some decent questioning too. 6.JarJarBinks: Null: His posts seem to lack content but he said he is sick and I hope he feels much better soon but he also needs to step it up if he's town and help us find scum. 7.Grumdrop: Null: He not posted since his entrance post and hope he posts more but for now I need to place him somewhere so Null is the best place for him atm due to the lack of posts from him. 8.Tfrel: Null leaning town: He seem to be inactive but it due to irl so I hoping he post more tomorrow but he had some good questions on his few posts since the game started but we shall see. 9. Silverate: Null: I need more posts to get a clear read on her since she posted so little and I hope she post more tonight and tomorrow! #5 @Tubesock I will give context to that post you said was worthless. HTS earlier in the thread asked me for my reads on the newer players at the time so that why I posted those reads. | ||
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Damdred
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Probably s bit further than you have read. (14) | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Kelsier - Through the course of the game yes - particularly when I was pushing him D2 and after I died, he was calling me scum hardcore (the only one to do so) in that game. You'd have to read either in the obs qt or the post-game but he was particularly noted for being the only one to scumread me all game, that's how he stuck out that game. Also Kels, I find it interesting you pulled that up because in this game he's saying On May 10 2015 21:24 LightningStrike wrote: [...] I remember HTS overreacting to my opening post in Newbie LX and everyone talked about it so it could be alignment indicative for her O_o[spoiler] [...] He's saying that because I was scum in Newbie LX, that my opening this game could be alignment indicative. Though that still raises an interesting point. Why does he say "alignment indicative" instead of straight up calling me scummy or leaning scum on me? | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On May 11 2015 02:13 Xatalos wrote: How is her entrance scum-specific exactly? Does she open some way as scum, not as town? Wait I retracting I had misread it she done this type of entrance as town just been a while since she did (Titanic) sorry about that HTS just bleed town for me please? <3 | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Other observations Slight townleans on Ras and Trfel. On Ras, I know she didn't explicitly state her conclusion but I thought it was pretty easy to infer where she stood on us given the language she used. "Not on the same side" for instance. I also get the sense that Trfel is critically reading from his first 1-3 posts. Pointing out willingness to interact is generally a town trait. (I also didn't find Ras's formatting difficult to sort through, but I digress. And the difference between her and LS is that LS openly admitting he doesn't want to commit as well.) Things that jumped out at me: Yamato's list post - Bats/BH/Bill Murray all fall into the category (null so far) of having posted much about nothing, nothing in terms of figuring out people's alignment. So I'm curious to see why he has BM in one category versus Bats/BH in a worse category. Not differentiating is either him making a list post to get out of determining people's alignment (and I hear he doesn't play as scum) or a double standard, either of which look scummy. Regarding Damdred, my only issue with his play is that he's using some words that appear non-committal (like "decent tone"), so I can see where Xatalos is thinking the play is a cover for bad reads. I think he way he's fleshed out his reads make me think there's a townlean about him. That said, looking at GB's criticism of him it's also entirely possible that Damdred would have missed GB's reads whilst interacting with Kelsier seeing when everything was happening. Also looking at TalkingDead's post. I don't like this part - On May 10 2015 15:24 TalkingDead wrote: Yamato looks really towny though; he can do this as mafia but I'd peg him as town. Aside from the list post, what are you differentiating as a townlean? Especially when you just indicated something contradictory, it could be buddying on your end, it could be you saying something noncomittal and just fabricating a committal read, either of which look scumlike. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On May 10 2015 15:24 TalkingDead wrote: [...] Damdred despite apparently being a strong player uses pretty weak arguments against him. It just feels like both want to throw shit at each other and neither are interested in actually starting a train on them. [...] Also another point against TD. Damdred is using the double standard argument against GlowingBear. On May 10 2015 13:25 Damdred wrote: Theres also an unevenness to how GB is reading if I pull your attention to Yamatos post and HTS post that GB is referring to, both of them cover the same topics and both have this sense of excitement about specific roles. Others have already commented on the tone of it, however GB is reading both of them differently by the same amount of content and for the same crime. I dislike this and give GB a scum point [...](8) There are a few reasons why this puts TD as scummy. 1 He's in the same thread as Damdred. Why didn't he just ask him or interact or call him out directly? 2 His phrasing indicates he didn't flesh out WHY Damdred's arguments were weak on GB. Or at the very least he's not reading. 3 The "train" argument was already touched on, but I think he's blowing it out of proportion. Which further substantiates a scumread on TD, and does the same for the townlean on Damdred. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
One thing I don't like about GlowingBear is his post on Yamato's list post. 1 He's getting scumread by Yamato - I would have expected some sort of reaction there. When I scumread GB before (Hammertime) I remember him having some sort of strong reaction. 2 If GB felt I was scum I'm not sure why he didn't comment on Yamato having me as null. He had him as scum early from the initial post then he nulls him upon re-reading and then he sees that post and then doesn't bother to try and determine his alignment? Or at least press the scumreads. I think GB's reaction to Yamato's post reflects scum mentality. If GB reappears in thread, I want to see if he still null reads Yamato. Or if he can clarify his stance on Yamato, and if so, why. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [ritoky] + Newbie Mini Mafia LV Town Jailkeeper Killed Night 2 [N] TL Order Mafia LXVI Town Vanilla Lynched Day 5 TL Mafia LXVII: Storm Mafia 2 Town Vanilla Killed Night 4 Showdown Mafia Town Suicide Bomber Killed Night 1 Cell (Mini?) Mafia III Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 5 Mission Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 4 Hearthstone Mafia Town Uther Lightbringer Endgamed Day 4 VI Titanic Mini Mafia: The Return of MSPaint Town Medic Killed Night 4 TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells Mafia Two-Shot Vigilante Lynched Day 3 Imperial Mafia Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 4 VII Titanic Mini Mafia: I Have a Cunning Plan... Third Party Serial Killer Endgamed Night 4 + Show Spoiler [sicklucker] + Campus Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 7 VI Titanic Mini Mafia: The Return of MSPaint Mafia Roleblocker Endgamed Day 5 Student Mafia IV Town Vanilla Killed Night 3 TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells Town Vanilla Survived Night 5 Metal Mini Mafia! Town Vanilla Modkilled Night 3 Imperial Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 6 The Void Mafia Mafia Rolecop Survived Day 5 PYP: Pick Your Protoss Mini Mafia Town Probe Survived Day 2 Linux Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Modkilled Day 1 Horn of Africa Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Modkilled Day 1 Slytherin Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 2 I need to also meta ritoky and follow through on him to be absolutely sure he's scum as I've yet to play a game with him when he's town. I have to afk again, but I'll post final judgement before EoD. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On May 11 2015 02:44 marvellosity wrote: ##Vote: BlazingVivax badass | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On May 11 2015 02:17 LightningStrike wrote: Wait I retracting I had misread it she done this type of entrance as town just been a while since she did (Titanic) sorry about that HTS just bleed town for me please? <3 Right -.- And what's your read now if we ignore that? Not 3P? | ||
yamato77
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On May 11 2015 03:18 Xatalos wrote: Right -.- And what's your read now if we ignore that? Not 3P? New game, new rules. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On May 11 2015 03:18 Xatalos wrote: Right -.- And what's your read now if we ignore that? Not 3P? Town she had some good large posts on analyzing stuff about GlowingBear and is thinking critically. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
I'm at a family reunion (mother's day), so not reading properly yet. I've skimmed the thread and saw people calling me scum for posting a list, which they call it weird. I want to know (1) what is weird on it and (2) what's is mafiaish in it. JAT and Marv are underwhelming. Mafia please shoot one of them if they're town so I don't have to think about them. | ||
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Why so anxious to imply that?
