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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 18:28 GMT
#1961
On May 11 2015 03:23 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:17 ritoky wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:14 Half the Sky wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:12 ritoky wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:06 Half the Sky wrote:
On May 11 2015 02:16 ritoky wrote:
On May 11 2015 01:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Those of you scumreading y0su, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this latest exchange.

Newb town? Or newb scum?

I need to check into ritoky - note to self...


I honestly think he is a newb who hasn't been able to fully keep up with the thread and you just bullied him into a direction. That's what that felt like.


I actually find this post pretty hilarious. Earlier you said I was scum for not following through on people. y0su is my top scumread (whether you agree with it or not is a separate issue) and I'm attempting to flesh out information to ensure he's not a newbie town playing suboptimally.

I'm pointing out flaws in his logic and you are calling it bullying? He already had a direction on me and I explained the flaws in it.

I also love how you use a tonal argument to infer scum on me. Remember how you said it was a problem using it against Superbia? *yawn*

Double standards aren't doing you any favours right now.


? you asked for opinions on the exchange and i gave you one. i think it's pretty clear you just browbeat the guy.


I didn't have a problem with the fact you gave an opinion. I have a problem with how you stated it based on your standards for scumreading people earlier in the game. Those standards of yours are changing through out the game.

Why? That is what I am challenging.


What standards? I said you bullied him into siding with you, that has nothing to do with tone. You literally just browbeat him with walls of text until he acquiesced.


Yawn.

Standards being the lack of followthrough and the tonal read, this is about the third time or even more than that tone has come up.

Also your responses show you aren't critically looking at why he changed direction. Nor did you appear to even analyse my walls of text (other than saying it was walls of text).


it was pretty low content stuff hence why i called it walls of text. one of them was even about the princess bride if i recall correctly. so sorry if my critical thinking cap turned off at that point. i didn't find anything you said compelling in the slightest. i just felt like you spammed him until he agreed. maybe i am wrong and shit you wrote makes a whole ton of sense and i am out of the loop this game. but it didn't rustle my jimmies in the slightest.

? where is this supposed tonal read? i think you misunderstand what bullying a newb is if you think it is a tonal read.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 10 2015 18:30 GMT
#1962
On May 11 2015 03:28 ritoky wrote:

it was pretty low content stuff hence why i called it walls of text. one of them was even about the princess bride if i recall correctly. so sorry if my critical thinking cap turned off at that point


She was explaining the term WIFOM. Which was highly relevant. The fact that you're misrepresenting this makes it even more likely that you're scum.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 18:30 GMT
#1963
On May 11 2015 03:26 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:19 ritoky wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:18 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:11 ritoky wrote:
i love these scum cases on me, they list a bunch of stuff and i say to myself "wow that's town"


If you think that's townplay and you actually are town you're a horrible judge of townplay. Then again we already know that since you were reading prpl so hard as town despite him doing jack all.


When someone posts the post: "fuck you, i am not posting a lot this game" this directly translates to: "hi everyone, i am a role or mafia". on day 1 you should always play assuming that person is a role. i am trying to teach you how to town.


And your response was to unnecessarily call for him to claim it when he was already under heavy pressure anyway; simply so you could claim some credit for yourself despite doing nothing. Bollocks, total bollocks. I don't need teaching by an incompetent player like yourself.


#1) i have the longest active winning streak as mafia on TL, so uh, gl with that incompetency argument getting you anywhere.

#2) you have blinders on: "on day 1 you should always play assuming that person is a role."

#3) the forcing him to claim came on day 2 in which i was going to CC him as VT, he claimed when i wasn't here and i didn't get the chance, oh well.

sorry bro, you in the tunnel on some bad juice. i think you're town though.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 18:32 GMT
#1964
On May 11 2015 03:30 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:28 ritoky wrote:

it was pretty low content stuff hence why i called it walls of text. one of them was even about the princess bride if i recall correctly. so sorry if my critical thinking cap turned off at that point


She was explaining the term WIFOM. Which was highly relevant. The fact that you're misrepresenting this makes it even more likely that you're scum.


yes, that is low content. speaking generally is low content, whereas speaking specifically is content. man you are really pissed about something, i hope it gets dealt with so you can be happier.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 10 2015 18:33 GMT
#1965
On May 11 2015 03:19 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:18 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:11 ritoky wrote:
i love these scum cases on me, they list a bunch of stuff and i say to myself "wow that's town"


If you think that's townplay and you actually are town you're a horrible judge of townplay. Then again we already know that since you were reading prpl so hard as town despite him doing jack all.


When someone posts the post: "fuck you, i am not posting a lot this game" this directly translates to: "hi everyone, i am a role or mafia". on day 1 you should always play assuming that person is a role. i am trying to teach you how to town.


Didn't you townread him earlier for having the same thoughts as you (scumreading me) DESPITE posting that in the opening stages of the game?

On May 05 2015 01:30 ritoky wrote:
y'know i gave prp a early town read cuz he made a quality observation, then i layed off him cuz he did a "fuck you" post, which always gives me the hots. but this kinda disengaged is kinda meh. you're falling on my list big boy.

stutters is also declining rapidly at this point.

place them both on the lynchable list.


Look at the timestamps. "Fuck you" post by prplhz comes in at:

On May 04 2015 03:39 prplhz wrote:
if you want to lynch me for low post count then you should do it now because i'm going to post a lot less this game. that game (like many other games) i tried to spam myself town. that's also why i have joined out of time mafia, because i want to stop spamming so much. anyway the reason i haven't posted a lot is because i haven't been around.

@superbia @ritoky what do you think about celestial? he is coming on as super tryhard, like nothing i've ever seen before. he stands out a lot compared to the general relaxed atmosphere in the thread. didn't filter him yet (dunno how much i can get out of that this early anyway) but it's just something that been sticking out a lot.

also @superbia happy birthday!


Ritoky was IN THREAD at the time this happened (click the # icon to check who else was posting - it takes you to the exact placement of the post in the entire thread). He only scumread him when prplhz fell off.

You were adamant about it when thread sentiment was shifting that way. Why not when the "fuck you" post came on through?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 10 2015 18:35 GMT
#1966
On May 11 2015 03:30 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:28 ritoky wrote:

it was pretty low content stuff hence why i called it walls of text. one of them was even about the princess bride if i recall correctly. so sorry if my critical thinking cap turned off at that point


She was explaining the term WIFOM. Which was highly relevant. The fact that you're misrepresenting this makes it even more likely that you're scum.


I'm seeing similar jumps/misrepresentations in logic as he's making when he was serial killer in Titanic.

Whoop-de-doo ritoky - the princess bride reference was all in reference to WIFOM which directly influenced y0su's read on me.

My purpose was to flesh out newb town or newb scum from that.

I've resolved the WIFOM argument but I've not resolved the parroting argument - he's sheeping tictock on the sicklucker read.

There was absolute purpose in that, and again shows you're not thinking critically or taking it out of context. Yawn.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 18:35 GMT
#1967
starting to lose my caring about this game. people calling me mafia for doing town things is annoying me:

On May 11 2015 03:15 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:12 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky what are your thoughts? Will be you be mad if we lynch you?


if lynching me makes the game more solveable, then i don't mind.

my problem is really HtS. i am not sold on her as town like everyone else, and if we lynch me, then you die; i don't feel like the people remaining will sufficiently stand up to her and she will just get her way. that is a terrifying scenario for me. so if i can get her as a 95% town read then sure, we can PoE lynch me.


you never make this post as mafia. can someone give me an expansive and convincing town read on HtS. If someone does that I will volunteer to be lynched.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 10 2015 18:40 GMT
#1968
On May 11 2015 03:30 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:26 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:19 ritoky wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:18 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:11 ritoky wrote:
i love these scum cases on me, they list a bunch of stuff and i say to myself "wow that's town"


If you think that's townplay and you actually are town you're a horrible judge of townplay. Then again we already know that since you were reading prpl so hard as town despite him doing jack all.


When someone posts the post: "fuck you, i am not posting a lot this game" this directly translates to: "hi everyone, i am a role or mafia". on day 1 you should always play assuming that person is a role. i am trying to teach you how to town.


And your response was to unnecessarily call for him to claim it when he was already under heavy pressure anyway; simply so you could claim some credit for yourself despite doing nothing. Bollocks, total bollocks. I don't need teaching by an incompetent player like yourself.


#1) i have the longest active winning streak as mafia on TL, so uh, gl with that incompetency argument getting you anywhere.

#2) you have blinders on: "on day 1 you should always play assuming that person is a role."

#3) the forcing him to claim came on day 2 in which i was going to CC him as VT, he claimed when i wasn't here and i didn't get the chance, oh well.

sorry bro, you in the tunnel on some bad juice. i think you're town though.


1. "As mafia" means dick all. Your town play here is horrible. Fact. You've done dick all to help us this game, instead spending most of it setting yourself up to claim credit on stuff people were already doing and yelling "I'm town" at every opportunity. None of what you've done is pro-town, in fact you've actively tried to confuse and misrepresent.

2. Which is basically irrelevant. You were still townreading him and nullreading him WELL into D2 until your sudden turnaround, as I detailed in the full analysis of your filter.

3. "You gotta believe me, bro, this is what I was going to do." I actually called out that you'd have this response in response to disfomation getting whacked or lynched after you doing that. Yeah, not buying it.

Yeah I'm tunneled, I'm tunneled on either the last scum or the worst attempt to look town in this game barring prpl.



On May 11 2015 03:32 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:30 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:28 ritoky wrote:

it was pretty low content stuff hence why i called it walls of text. one of them was even about the princess bride if i recall correctly. so sorry if my critical thinking cap turned off at that point


She was explaining the term WIFOM. Which was highly relevant. The fact that you're misrepresenting this makes it even more likely that you're scum.


yes, that is low content. speaking generally is low content, whereas speaking specifically is content. man you are really pissed about something, i hope it gets dealt with so you can be happier.


Bollocks, it was highly relevant because y0su asked the question goddamn directly and she took that to assume he didn't know what she was getting at. It was a direct response to a direct question she was trying to answer, specific to a point being made. Hell if you want to argue the low-content thing your filter is FULL of low-content stuff. In fact your strongest town-based posts are low-content ones.

As for being pissed, it'll get dealt with when you stop insulting me and get lynched and never bother me again.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 18:41 GMT
#1969
On May 11 2015 03:35 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:30 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:28 ritoky wrote:

it was pretty low content stuff hence why i called it walls of text. one of them was even about the princess bride if i recall correctly. so sorry if my critical thinking cap turned off at that point


She was explaining the term WIFOM. Which was highly relevant. The fact that you're misrepresenting this makes it even more likely that you're scum.


I'm seeing similar jumps/misrepresentations in logic as he's making when he was serial killer in Titanic.

Whoop-de-doo ritoky - the princess bride reference was all in reference to WIFOM which directly influenced y0su's read on me.

My purpose was to flesh out newb town or newb scum from that.

I've resolved the WIFOM argument but I've not resolved the parroting argument - he's sheeping tictock on the sicklucker read.

There was absolute purpose in that, and again shows you're not thinking critically or taking it out of context. Yawn.


yes but you don't ever address why i am not reading y0su mafia which i think i have stated 3 or 4 times. why would a newb full scum read 1 of his partners and null read the other? that doesn't seem likely.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 18:42 GMT
#1970
On May 11 2015 03:40 -Celestial- wrote:
As for being pissed, it'll get dealt with when you stop insulting me and get lynched and never bother me again.


I haven't insulted you once. I have insulted your play though.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 18:42 GMT
#1971
On May 11 2015 03:40 -Celestial- wrote:
1. "As mafia" means dick all. Your town play here is horrible. Fact. You've done dick all to help us this game, instead spending most of it setting yourself up to claim credit on stuff people were already doing and yelling "I'm town" at every opportunity. None of what you've done is pro-town, in fact you've actively tried to confuse and misrepresent.


Thanks for confirming me bro!
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 10 2015 18:43 GMT
#1972
On May 11 2015 03:35 ritoky wrote:
starting to lose my caring about this game. people calling me mafia for doing town things is annoying me:


You are literally the only person in this entire game saying everything you are doing is "obvious town". You are also the only person in this entire game who has consistently read you, ritoky, as town. And you've been incredibly vocal about that.

Either you're a HORRIBLE town player with an ego that makes you think you're amazing or you're scum.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 18:44 GMT
#1973
On May 11 2015 03:43 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:35 ritoky wrote:
starting to lose my caring about this game. people calling me mafia for doing town things is annoying me:


You are literally the only person in this entire game saying everything you are doing is "obvious town". You are also the only person in this entire game who has consistently read you, ritoky, as town. And you've been incredibly vocal about that.

Either you're a HORRIBLE town player with an ego that makes you think you're amazing or you're scum.


On May 11 2015 02:54 Superbia wrote:
Scratch ritoky off the lynch list folks.


/destroyed
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 10 2015 18:44 GMT
#1974
On May 11 2015 03:42 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:40 -Celestial- wrote:
As for being pissed, it'll get dealt with when you stop insulting me and get lynched and never bother me again.


I haven't insulted you once. I have insulted your play though.


You have. Get out.


On May 11 2015 03:42 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:40 -Celestial- wrote:
1. "As mafia" means dick all. Your town play here is horrible. Fact. You've done dick all to help us this game, instead spending most of it setting yourself up to claim credit on stuff people were already doing and yelling "I'm town" at every opportunity. None of what you've done is pro-town, in fact you've actively tried to confuse and misrepresent.


Thanks for confirming me bro!


Not confirming you, idiot. Get out.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 10 2015 18:44 GMT
#1975
On May 11 2015 03:44 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:43 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:35 ritoky wrote:
starting to lose my caring about this game. people calling me mafia for doing town things is annoying me:


You are literally the only person in this entire game saying everything you are doing is "obvious town". You are also the only person in this entire game who has consistently read you, ritoky, as town. And you've been incredibly vocal about that.

Either you're a HORRIBLE town player with an ego that makes you think you're amazing or you're scum.


Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 02:54 Superbia wrote:
Scratch ritoky off the lynch list folks.


/destroyed


Before I cased you. And with no evidence.

Sure, bro. Get out.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 18:47 GMT
#1976
On May 11 2015 03:44 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:42 ritoky wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:40 -Celestial- wrote:
As for being pissed, it'll get dealt with when you stop insulting me and get lynched and never bother me again.


I haven't insulted you once. I have insulted your play though.


You have. Get out.


Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:42 ritoky wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:40 -Celestial- wrote:
1. "As mafia" means dick all. Your town play here is horrible. Fact. You've done dick all to help us this game, instead spending most of it setting yourself up to claim credit on stuff people were already doing and yelling "I'm town" at every opportunity. None of what you've done is pro-town, in fact you've actively tried to confuse and misrepresent.


Thanks for confirming me bro!


Not confirming you, idiot. Get out.


I feel like I should parrot your ad hominem comment from earlier in response to this, and threaten reports like you did. But I have thicker skin and I don't mind. You can insult me all you want, your anger won't make me any less town. You're conf biasing so hard it makes me laugh.

And yes you confirmed me. "Your town play here is horrible" implies you know that I am town. But that's technicalities, you're not typing from your head anymore.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 10 2015 18:47 GMT
#1977
On May 11 2015 03:35 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm seeing similar jumps/misrepresentations in logic as he's making when he was serial killer in Titanic.


To be honest that crap is throughout his entire filter. I couldn't believe the amount he'd gotten away with after actually looking through it.

Either he's totally incompetent or he's scum.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 10 2015 18:47 GMT
#1978
It's y0su. Final answer.
Minimal effort.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 18:47 GMT
#1979
On May 11 2015 03:44 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:44 ritoky wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:43 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:35 ritoky wrote:
starting to lose my caring about this game. people calling me mafia for doing town things is annoying me:


You are literally the only person in this entire game saying everything you are doing is "obvious town". You are also the only person in this entire game who has consistently read you, ritoky, as town. And you've been incredibly vocal about that.

Either you're a HORRIBLE town player with an ego that makes you think you're amazing or you're scum.


On May 11 2015 02:54 Superbia wrote:
Scratch ritoky off the lynch list folks.


/destroyed


Before I cased you. And with no evidence.

Sure, bro. Get out.


It's okay to be wrong, I can hug it out.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 18:48 GMT
#1980
On May 11 2015 03:47 Superbia wrote:
It's y0su. Final answer.


is hts for sure town?

like FOR SURE?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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