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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 00:28 GMT
#204
He did ask if you were the obs dude, as well.

As for HTS, I'm slightly hesitant there. That's pure policy to me. It's late for her and it's the weekend. She said she'd pick it up tomorrow.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 00:34 GMT
#209
Ebwop: he = SL.

You see, HtS says she'd pick it up in the 2nd half of this phase. If she doesn't, I'd lynch her.

But right now, we have SL who won't play D1, as per pre game, did his town spoiler thing and disappeared. I'd rather vote him and force him to play.

##Vote: Sicklucker
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 00:35 GMT
#213
On May 01 2015 14:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Inactive Sunday (or first half of D1, since I'm out at a shower) but normal activity will resume Sunday night into Monday morning.


You guys need to freaking read if you're gonna keep trying to scum EVERYTHING I POST. ffs.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 00:40 GMT
#216
Nah but now I know you're not reading. Thanks for that.

"It's not in her filter."

I want to believe you just thought you caught something but the lie hurts. You're just trying to throw scum on me. Red flag.

Scott actually looks worse for posting a pointless ut oh, as opposed to checking HtS filter himself to see if you were even being truthful.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 00:42 GMT
#218
Yeah that would've been great. Super gets .5 town points for not letting us get modkilled, I suppose.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 00:46 GMT
#224
Fair point, I'll take it into consideration. Mehh weekend starts always worry me. Too much lurking can happen.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 00:47 GMT
#226
On May 03 2015 09:45 scott31337 wrote:
That HtS message was posted on April 25th/last week. I don't think that counts Nobody knew the game was starting Saturday until a couple days ago.


What message?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 01:22 GMT
#240
All Mayweather supporters please claim now so I can get the policy lynch out of the way.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 19:52 GMT
#469
On May 04 2015 01:58 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.


I like shining as scum too. I'm undecided on scott. I had him as town early on. I'm decently sure -c- is town here as well. Undecided on prp, but I liked his initial thoughts. Also agreed on FF being town.


On May 04 2015 02:03 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 01:59 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:55 Superbia wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:48 ritoky wrote:
On May 03 2015 19:58 Superbia wrote:
Rest of your reads are pretty fluffy.


while i agree with you that the majority of that opening post is meh at best, his scott read is good. you don't seem to mention it as having any value. why? if you disagree, tell me bout it m8.


The scott read was okay at best. I don't see how it is very alignment indicative. Did scott really blindly trust me? I don't know. It's not entirely clear to me what scott did that lead to the decision to vote HtS, it was pretty quiet after I thought I caught the slip. To me it felt like there was a bit of confusion from scott's part on what was actually happening. I would like to hear some more from scott on his thought process, but I don't find his vote on HtS particularly alignment indicative.


it reminded me of how i lynched mafia on day 1 in hearthstone mafia. someone gave a piss poor and inaccurate read on day 1. and then another player immediately agreed with it and helped push it as an attempt to pocket the person who made the read and get in on the ground floor of a lynch. i looked into the accuracy of the read/push and it was complete garbage. in that situation, the guy who follows the garbage read is usually more likely scum than the person making it. that was the case in hearthstone. and i think i poorly explained this one, rip me.


Yeah, maybe. I thought he was decently townie before any of that though. I also thought that the interactions between scott and the shining shady (iirc). Felt like at least one of them trusted the other one too easily (and maybe some pocketing going on).


I think I found our first scum here, guys.

I just can't understand the town motivation here. I'm scum. Undecided on Scott. But our interactions were shady. Too much easy trusting and maybe pocketing. But I'm suspicious of Scott? So how am I pocketing?

This leads to Super NOT BEING INTERESTED IN A SCOTT LYNCH.

WHICH LEADS TO HIM GETTING ON THE SL WAGON. Wtf bro? I'm scum, right? Why are you voting on MY wagon? This could be an attempt to save scummate Scott.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 19:56 GMT
#471
Like.

How do you scum mee, null/claim you town someone early in Scott, claim you don't want to lynch him and there was possible pocketing between us, THEN VOTE WITH US?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 20:45 GMT
#481
On May 04 2015 04:58 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 04:56 The Shining wrote:
Like.

How do you scum mee, null/claim you town someone early in Scott, claim you don't want to lynch him and there was possible pocketing between us, THEN VOTE WITH US?


Don't really care who's voting on SL at the moment? I just want to know more about his alignment.


Explain how I'm scum before pushing the same person your scum is pushing, maybe?

And would you mind explaining this whole trust/pocketing thing you got from Scott and me interacting? I said I was suspicious of him. He Towned me. But I'm the scum for trusting too easily and pocketing and Scott shouldn't be lynched? Still doesn't make sense. You're not even pushing your own scumread in me.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 21:12 GMT
#501
On May 03 2015 09:40 The Shining wrote:
Nah but now I know you're not reading. Thanks for that.

"It's not in her filter."

I want to believe you just thought you caught something but the lie hurts. You're just trying to throw scum on me. Red flag.

Scott actually looks worse for posting a pointless ut oh, as opposed to checking HtS filter himself to see if you were even being truthful.


This came after I towned Scott. I got the ball rolling on Scott looking bad for his seeming blind vote. Yeah. Pocketing.

And I wasn't surprised Scott caught on to what I did with my entrance post. We were both in the last Student game together. I opened pretty much the same way. I was blue. He was scum. He also didn't town me off of that, iirc, so it doesn't fit the scum metaread I have on 2 games vs scumScott.

What does pregame banter have to do with anything?

I'm not saying you couldn't be right here. Maybe Scott did attempt to pocket me there. But that's part of why I started being suspicious of him again after blindly sheeping you onto HtS. But the way you're presenting your reads and pushes feel detrimental to town. Misinformation regarding my comment on HtS. Scumming me and joining my pressure wagon. Assuming I'm pocketing when my reads are still evolving and I already said I'm shyt on D1 but I refuse to let you ML me, while refusing to lynch the person you say could be pocketing me and that looks substantially worse here, gameplay wise.

And this is now the 2nd or 3rd time in 20+ pages you've thrown scum on me. Do what you gotta do or get off the pot.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 21:51 GMT
#504
On May 04 2015 01:58 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.


I like shining as scum too. I'm undecided on scott. I had him as town early on. I'm decently sure -c- is town here as well. Undecided on prp, but I liked his initial thoughts. Also agreed on FF being town.


You never rescinded so ya, it was another time throwing scum after the HtS "slip".

And sure, though they're all Newbie/Student games, and can be found with a little effort.

Town/Blue games:
Newbie Mini Mafia LX
Newbie Mini Mafia LXI
Newbie Student Mafia VIII
Newbie Student Mafia VII
Newbie Student Mafia VI

My lone scum game:
Student Mafia V
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 23:39 GMT
#516
On May 04 2015 07:47 ritoky wrote:
if shining is town, someone is gonna have to talk me out of lynching him all game i think....the way he phrases things bugs the living shit out of me and makes me want to lynch him lol.

also not particularly fond of hts. enters thread -> summary information -> makes read 8 other people have made -> asks question -> draws no conclusions from time in thread. you're a decent player, you're in the thread engaging with people, and you don't conclude anything. not townie enough for cookies. go sit in the corner.


Lmao explain? I like to think its fairly easy to tell when I'm town. But I won't meta myself for you. Super asked for my game links, go see if you want to lynch me reading other town games. I've been told I look scummy as town before, nothing new to me. I could say the same for your opening posts and 0 to 100 change from one style to the other.

But I lynch scum, not people whose posting style and phrasing annoys me. Just so I understand, this post is you hinting at probably wanting to lynch me all game while being not particularly fond of HtS? Not townie enough!

Why not come out and take a stance? This looks like 2 weak reads left to sit there in the hopes someone else will actively push them. HtS draws no conclusions but you don't say anything definitive here, either. Lynch me for phrasing and HtS...isn't townie enough. Funny you pick on my phrasing instead of saying what she isn't, instead of what you think she is.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 04 2015 00:43 GMT
#535
On May 04 2015 09:08 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 08:39 The Shining wrote:
On May 04 2015 07:47 ritoky wrote:
if shining is town, someone is gonna have to talk me out of lynching him all game i think....the way he phrases things bugs the living shit out of me and makes me want to lynch him lol.

also not particularly fond of hts. enters thread -> summary information -> makes read 8 other people have made -> asks question -> draws no conclusions from time in thread. you're a decent player, you're in the thread engaging with people, and you don't conclude anything. not townie enough for cookies. go sit in the corner.


Lmao explain? I like to think its fairly easy to tell when I'm town. But I won't meta myself for you. Super asked for my game links, go see if you want to lynch me reading other town games. I've been told I look scummy as town before, nothing new to me. I could say the same for your opening posts and 0 to 100 change from one style to the other.

But I lynch scum, not people whose posting style and phrasing annoys me. Just so I understand, this post is you hinting at probably wanting to lynch me all game while being not particularly fond of HtS? Not townie enough!

Why not come out and take a stance? This looks like 2 weak reads left to sit there in the hopes someone else will actively push them. HtS draws no conclusions but you don't say anything definitive here, either. Lynch me for phrasing and HtS...isn't townie enough. Funny you pick on my phrasing instead of saying what she isn't, instead of what you think she is.


overreact much? way too defensive in response to the tiniest of comments. as for why the way you phrase things bugs the living shit out of me; it is pretty much irrelevant to explain. you're just kinda like sqrtneg1 i think. everything you type regardless of content or alignment indicativeness just makes me want to lynch you. i need to train myself to try and read the content rather than just want to lynch you. for example: i avoided getting bothered here and noted your large overreaction, which pushes you toward being more scum.

as for me not having stances, i have plenty in the thread. hts has like 5 posts, she isn't slam dunk mafia for any of them so i am not gonna call her mafia, but none of them are any good; which means she might be mafia.


Deal with it. I've been mislynched as town to lose games before. Its a crappy feeling. So I don't take kindly at all to being scummed or told you'd lynch me. Especially when you're not actually doing it. I'm probably more defensive as town than scum, oh well. Its your job to figure it out, not mine.

And D1 is a crap shoot for me. I'm sick of saying this. So yeah my most defensive stances and strongest scumreads are people who are saying they want to lynch me over absolutely nothing, when I know my alignment, and then put an lol before or after it to take away a bit of the seriousness, and then don't actually vote me or push me. Its a waste of time and detrimental to town moving forward.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 04 2015 01:27 GMT
#548
On May 04 2015 10:08 Superbia wrote:
All right. Since it's my birthday tomorrow it is likely that I will not be around, not even for EoD, alas. I will try to be, but no promises.

I will post where I'm at at this point in time:

Town:
Ritoky
Fecalfeast

Lean Town:
y0su - Filter feels natural. Really liked the question regarding ritoky's transition from loopiness to serious.

Null(ish):
prplhz: I am conflicted. On the one hand I liked his very early d1 jokey behaviour and his ping on shining. On the other hand, he asks me what I think of celestial, even though I was one of the most outspoken persons when it came to celestial (feels like he isn't paying attention). Also hasn't really done anything.

scott: Meh. I need to really interact with the dude but I haven't done so. He cleared his thought process on the HtS thing, which feels natural. I had him as town before that because he felt like he was relaxed, but I'm not comfortable putting him on the town pile due to a healthy dose of suspicion (e.g. the whole trusting the shining debacle).

Lean Scum:
disinformation - Promises to read filters with no real result (imo). This post looks really weird:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 03 2015 19:56 disformation wrote:ritoky:
Your two pushes so were were easy pushes on me and y0su, both of which are newbies. Coincidence or looking for easy misslynches?
You also seem to be defensive of superbia. Scum mate of yours?
.
disinformation calls y0su a misslynch, but does not have any opinion on y0su in his filter. TMI.

The Shining - Meh. I've said stuff about him before which kinda holds. His aggressiveness towards me feels kinda townish, as I don't really expect mafia to be aggro towards me (big ego), but they still might. His filter content wise feels very similar to his town filters, but he seems very bitter and sardonic this game, while in his other town games he is decently jokey and relaxed. Bitterness is a mafia tell. I am hesitant because this purely comes from his interactions with me.

Sicklucker - NEEDS TO START DOING SHIT. WHO IS MAFIA AND WHY?

WTF:
Half the Sky - Half assed scum-read on a town (from my perspective), then leaves thread. What?



Rest is null though I may have forgotten some.


Lol I'll just drag my big scummy balls all over D1 then. Pro scum start. Go headfirst at Ritoky and Super, TL "vets". Lol legit. Still not taking Super out of my scum pile. Said he was possibly leaning slightly townish on me, asked for links to my past games, says my filtert matches town meta but because of my bitterness, I'm scum.

Like I didn't just say I hate being called scum as VT. If you read my filter in some of my games, I am literally willing to rip ppls head off for scumming me as town. And I've rolled blue my last few games. I suppose I'm bitter because I hate D1s and I have shyt all luck as VT in the last few games. I'm taking this one way more serious and because of that, I'm being scummed for an entrance meant to generate discussion and reactions and my bitterness...at being called scum...

I guess I'll just smile and accept it now. Actually IDC scum me all you want. You, Ritoky, everyone else. I'm done talking about this.

Nice caveat on HTS BTW. She's scum and you'll vote her for not posting. But you call her read half-assed when she shows up and question her. But don't scum her. Again, having trouble following your read progressions. And while I'm on the subject of HtS, it is now Sunday. The 2nd half of D2. She didn't deliver on her promise. I can def lynch her.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 04 2015 01:32 GMT
#551
Also SL isn't reading scum to me. He's here. That's what I asked for. I can accept bad town SL over nonexistent lurker SL, and his posts don't even read that bad to me. Inb4 SL Shining scumteam smh.

I'm gonna take a break since I'm obvs bitter and sardonic and sarcastic and I'll dive disfo and yosu, I've kind of let them get lost in the mix. Probably when I get home from work.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 04 2015 01:34 GMT
#554
On May 04 2015 10:27 The Shining wrote:

I guess I'll just smile and accept it now. Actually IDC scum me all you want. You, Ritoky, everyone else. I'm done talking about this.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 04 2015 01:35 GMT
#555
Thanks for telling me to do what I already planned on doing lol.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 04 2015 19:24 GMT
#671
Still no Scott defense. Yeah, I could vote him, too. I'm sorry, I definitely avoided this game last night. I was a bit cranky and didn't want to let it get any worse. =/

Super's birthday excuse is valid but it really gives me butterflies that it just happened to excuse him for EoD. While he has a "pressure" vote on SL. How much pressure is pressure if you say it's pressure and then proceed to say you likely won't have a way of backing up your pressure or vote? It's wasted pressure, wasted vote and Scott at the time looked like the wagon that would gain traction. And it has.

As for Scott, I agree with the points made against him. And if it were any other player, I'd be worried about no one defending him but if he is in fact scum, it would mean he rolled scum every game he's played here. I could understand the lack of defense, lack of posting, possible lack of motivation as someone who is tired of rolling scum as a newbie.
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