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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 03 2015 03:04 GMT
#321
ritoky, ff, -c-

we will start from here
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
May 03 2015 03:05 GMT
#322
On May 03 2015 11:34 -Celestial- wrote:
Hey guys. Sorry for the late entry. I've been somewhat distracted playing KanColle recently; there's an event on and I'm desperate to clear it, first event I've been in. Anyway there's probably just about enough to write something on most people now so...off we go.

Unfortunately in the time I've been away I've NOT been keeping an eye on games going on. Then again I tend to prefer any meta reading from games people have actually been in together. On with the show:


Reads:

Tictock has posted nothing. So I got nothing. Neutral.

y0su hasn't really posted very much but I think this is their first game? None of the posts so far come across as being scared, on the other hand ALL of their posts since the game started have been basically off-topic with no real attempt to push anyone or draw any reads. Neutral, want to see some actual worthwhile stuff pretty fast though or that'll start drifting red.

disformation starting post I REALLY don't like. However he IS making an attempt to start producing reads. Earnest newbie with a weak entry I think. Weakly town.

scott31337 was REALLY quick to jump on a HtS vote after Superbia claimed that HtS saying she was away wasn't in her filter. And he didn't take the time to check it himself. That's either incredibly sloppy play or he's scum.

ritoky's sole post of note is an easy push on disformation. Other than that he's just posting nonsense and off-topic stuff. Coming across as pretty scummy to me; complete misdirection plays.

The Shining decent filter length (not many people on two pages), asking for opinions, pressuring people. Not exactly opening strong on his reads but I seem to remember him playing the same game last time around with "I can't do day 1" so I'm almost inclined to believe it. Also picked up on the HtS thing. Probably town.

Half the Sky already said she wouldn't be here until tomorrow evening. Not giving her a free pass for the whole of "Daytime 1" but for now I can't really say anything here.

Superbia early vote on HtS, then either misses her post in the filter dives or flat out lies about it (I'm thinking the former because it's a REALLY easy lie to prove wrong). Also went for the easy pressure on disinformation (like ritoky) and since the HtS thing fell apart hasn't done much.

FecalFeast appears to be both engaging people, picking at things that don't fit and also supremely relaxed. Town.

prplhz hasn't done much except making vague comments about how he doesn't like The Shining's initial post. Can't really say more without seeing more.

sicklucker posted nothing. Withholding judgement.

Stutters695 again posted nothing. However he stated "going to catch up real quick." and then didn't follow up on it. Neutral until he does something worth having.


Initial thoughts:

I could place Superbia and scott in a mafia team together here. HtS is inactive, Superbia puts up a pressure vote and then posts that she didn't say she was going to be away (although it's a pretty easy lie to prove false, so it's more likely he just missed it). Him missing it in and of itself isn't necessarily alignment indicative; but scott's reaction and total trust that Superbia is telling the truth is a gigantic red flag for me, since mafia team members would inherently trust each other's comments like that. scott votes as well in order to start getting pressure on HtS and maybe start a vote train because people are fairly easily swayed on day 1 and in the meantime the two of them can feed off free town credit as being people who were leading a vote train.

Although scott would have really weird luck to roll mafia so often.

Other than that I'm going to point my final finger at ritoky from the simple lack of anything useful despite a fair few posts in here; plus the circumstantial evidence of both him and Superbia pressuring the same guy. Also was recently making excuses for Superbia who I've got a bad feeling about.


Queries:

Stutters - care to follow up on your "catching up" comment? Some reads, if you please.

Would also like to see something from prplhz and ritoky. Both have been in the thread since the start here but neither have posted much of anything.


Never checked voting thread-Celestial

Never voted for HtS-Me

A reads list is nice but you are going in the slightly scummy pile for now. Superbia actually voted for HtS in the voting thread- but you went more on me for it Interesting.

Sick actually posted, but that could be understandable.

I'm keeping an eye on you.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 03 2015 03:06 GMT
#323
@scott, why did you follow up on superbia's read without checking it out for yourself?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 03:07 GMT
#324
Are you implying that you intentionally voted in-thread but not in voting thread?
On May 03 2015 09:34 scott31337 wrote:
EBWOP
##Unvote
##Vote: Half the Sky

ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 03:12 GMT
#325
I mean I already know what I'm going to say in either case.
If you did intentionally leave your vote out of the voting thread, what were you hoping to accomplish?

If you accidentally left your vote out of the voting thread, which implies you had the intention of actually voting HtS, how can you use that as a defense?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 03 2015 03:13 GMT
#326
didn't the voting thread get posted after?
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 03:14 GMT
#327
On May 03 2015 12:05 scott31337 wrote:

Never checked voting thread-Celestial

Never voted for HtS-Me


Don't play dumb. You voted HtS in-thread before Superbia posted a link to the voting thread and before you realised there was a voting thread. Proof:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=11#210
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=11#211
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=11#215
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=11#217

On May 03 2015 09:34 scott31337 wrote:
EBWOP
##Unvote
##Vote: Half the Sky



On May 03 2015 09:38 Superbia wrote:
Vote here boys:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484531-newbie-student-mafia-ix-voting-thread


On May 03 2015 09:40 scott31337 wrote:
Oh we do have a thread - last one didn't.. ty



Now you're misrepresenting what happened in an attempt to make me look bad and yourself look good. Keep an eye on me all you like but you're looking scummier by the minute and its certainly enough for me to put a vote on you.

##Vote: scott31337
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 03 2015 03:14 GMT
#328
I'm too tired to follow the implications of that right now (will have to reread)
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
May 03 2015 03:14 GMT
#329
On May 03 2015 12:06 ritoky wrote:
@scott, why did you follow up on superbia's read without checking it out for yourself?


I was feeling Superbia as slight town and did not bother until afterwards - and then I jumped on the first HtS post from April 25th - and then read the whole filter (I was thinking, no way they posted in the QT and made it that easy) and saw the other inactive post.

On May 03 2015 12:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
Are you implying that you intentionally voted in-thread but not in voting thread?
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 09:34 scott31337 wrote:
EBWOP
##Unvote
##Vote: Half the Sky



I actually meant to vote. + Show Spoiler +
but wanted to see Celestial's reaction with posting only in the voting thread. He didn't mention I did vote for SL though - who he says hasn't posted either
I need to read another game of his if he has any (He said he took a couple month break, so it may not even exist) Cel's got me worried a little bit.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 03:15 GMT
#330
Also since you didn't care to read forward you'll notice I DID address the sicklucker thing.

More lies and misrepresentation. Scum alarm going off in my head.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
May 03 2015 03:16 GMT
#331
On May 03 2015 12:14 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 12:05 scott31337 wrote:

Never checked voting thread-Celestial

Never voted for HtS-Me


Don't play dumb. You voted HtS in-thread before Superbia posted a link to the voting thread and before you realised there was a voting thread. Proof:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=11#210
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=11#211
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=11#215
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=11#217

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 09:34 scott31337 wrote:
EBWOP
##Unvote
##Vote: Half the Sky



Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 09:38 Superbia wrote:
Vote here boys:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484531-newbie-student-mafia-ix-voting-thread


Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 09:40 scott31337 wrote:
Oh we do have a thread - last one didn't.. ty



Now you're misrepresenting what happened in an attempt to make me look bad and yourself look good. Keep an eye on me all you like but you're looking scummier by the minute and its certainly enough for me to put a vote on you.

##Vote: scott31337


So why are you reacting on the HtS vote so much when I did vote for sicklucker? He had his two posts? Is he your scumbuddy and not wanting to draw attention to? But HtS is free reign, eh?



THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 03:18 GMT
#332
Being willfully dishonest hardly ever finds scum. I don't see what you could have learned about cel's alignment by her reaction to your lie.

Do you have a reaction in mind that paints cel scum in any way?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 03:19 GMT
#333
idk there's laying a trap for scum and then there's causing confusion. Now I'm not sure whether you're being sincere about wanting to see if cel reacted.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 03 2015 03:20 GMT
#334
those extra enters at the bottom of the post doe.....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 03:21 GMT
#335
On May 03 2015 12:20 ritoky wrote:
those extra enters at the bottom of the post doe.....

Is this a read robik would approve of? I think I see what you're saying
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 03:21 GMT
#336
On May 03 2015 12:14 scott31337 wrote:
I actually meant to vote. + Show Spoiler +
but wanted to see Celestial's reaction with posting only in the voting thread. He didn't mention I did vote for SL though - who he says hasn't posted either
I need to read another game of his if he has any (He said he took a couple month break, so it may not even exist) Cel's got me worried a little bit.


You're talking nonsense now. Yes, you voted for Sicklucker. Well, in-thread again, not in the actual vote topic. But you did that AFTER your case against HtS fell apart. Given that I'm pretty sure you're scum now my guess is that after you saw you couldn't get away with going after one inactive you went after a different one.

In any case, that vote is irrelevant to how you played the HtS situation.

And I've played precisely one other game. Which was the one with you and I was the Mafia Roleblocker that game. Feel free to check it if you want, its in my profile (I think I stole the profile style from HtS). If you don't believe that's my only one then feel free to check the mafia database, I'm second in the player records section:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
May 03 2015 03:21 GMT
#337
Our last game though - you were pretty dormant though as scum- and trying to jump on a ML so early wouldn't be your style in my opinion.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 03:24 GMT
#338
On May 03 2015 12:16 scott31337 wrote:

So why are you reacting on the HtS vote so much when I did vote for sicklucker? He had his two posts? Is he your scumbuddy and not wanting to draw attention to? But HtS is free reign, eh?


What? Did you actually miss the entire point of my case on you?

I'll spell it out: the case on you is NOT because you voted HtS. Its because of the fact you voted HtS blindly in response to a claim from Superbia that you DID NOT CHECK.

That's either terrible town play or pure scum. And you constant misrepresentation of everything here firmly makes me believe scum. I'm going to need to see a damn convincing argument from someone at this point to want to lynch anybody else. Either you're scum or you're playing in a way that is going to make town lose.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 03 2015 03:25 GMT
#339
On May 03 2015 12:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 12:20 ritoky wrote:
those extra enters at the bottom of the post doe.....

Is this a read robik would approve of? I think I see what you're saying


lol was it robik who lynched people who had extra enters on their posts cuz they were editing them a bunch? didn't think it was robik, thought it was some1 else. read actually was relatively accurate surprisingly enough.

i just don't understand your thought process here scott. superbia makes read about something not being in HtS filter -> you think superbia is town -> you don't check the reference -> you continue superbia's push. how is this coming from a town mindset?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 03:25 GMT
#340
gonna tone down on my spam, I forgot this is a newbie game. Nobody wants to read 20 pages of FF spam
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
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