EPTNewbie Student Mafia IX - Page 19
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On May 03 2015 13:05 sicklucker wrote: So you would vote the guy that already said he would probably not play day 1 as either alignment? solid You know as well as I do that there is a difference between not playing d1 and not being good d1. I pick up as the game goes on since my d1 is absolute ass, but wanting to policy you unless you step up is completely understandable. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On May 03 2015 12:25 Fecalfeast wrote: gonna tone down on my spam, I forgot this is a newbie game. Nobody wants to read 20 pages of FF spam Gonna have to learn how to deal with you/marv/hf eventually. Plus it makes me think you're town and I like that. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On May 03 2015 14:06 sicklucker wrote: The threat is understandable. Actually doing it on the other hand A threat without action is worthless. Following through if you truly do nothing is understandable. If you start posting and it still is an issue then we can discern stuff from it. | ||
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cakepie
985 Posts
VOTE COUNT: scott31337 (2) : -Celestial-, sicklucker Half the Sky (1) : Superbia sicklucker (1) : The Shining Not voting (9) : disformation, FecalFeast, Half the Sky, prplhz, ritoky, scott31337, Stutters695, Tictock, y0su The cycle will end at Monday, May 04 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), 40 hours from this post. remain as you are reading this. Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in the voting thread. Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched! If you see any vote out of place, holler at the hosting team so that we can correct it. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
I am a total Mafia noob. Never played a game in my life and until recently never piqued my interest. I've been on TL for a few years now and have seen the Mafia section plenty of times, so when I decided to try my hand at the game I naturally came here. So, given my newbishness, while I have read the thread up to this point (you guys were busy while I slept) I'm not too sure what to make of things. The suspicion around scott seems to have merit, but I will have to do a more thorough read of what transpired when I get some time. I expect I should be done with work by midday and will be more active then. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
 Some stuff I am wondering: Stutters695 : You were around for a bit, but my list on you is empty and your filter is really short. Give us something more to work with? How bad do you think scott looks now? Any idea of who you would lynch as of now? Scum reads? ritoky : Your two pushes so far were towards me were easy pushes on me and y0su, both of which are newbies. Coincidence or looking for easy misslynches? You also seem to be defensive about superbia. Scum mate of yours? sicklucker : For not wanting to play d1, you seem to be around a bit. Changed your mind a bit, or is it more in the vain of your d1 reads being bad anyway? Not sure what your spamy stuff is supposed to be though. Kinda confused tbh. If that was what you were aiming for: congrats. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
ritoky: Your two pushes so were were easy pushes on me and y0su, both of which are newbies. Coincidence or looking for easy misslynches? You also seem to be defensive of superbia. Scum mate of yours? | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
The entire thing also starts off with an excuse: + Show Spoiler + On May 03 2015 11:34 -Celestial- wrote: Hey guys. Sorry for the late entry. I've been somewhat distracted playing KanColle recently; there's an event on and I'm desperate to clear it, first event I've been in. Anyway there's probably just about enough to write something on most people now so...off we go. Unfortunately in the time I've been away I've NOT been keeping an eye on games going on. Then again I tend to prefer any meta reading from games people have actually been in together. On with the show: What are you apologizing for? This feels like you yourself don't have any faith in your reads. This is likely because you had to fabricate them due to being mafia, because you feel confident enough to start a wagon on scott. Also, starting off with an apology for being late is pretty mafia. There's also a flagrant disparity between what you say about disformation and ritoky (which leads me to believe both are town if you end up being mafia): + Show Spoiler + On May 03 2015 11:34 -Celestial- wrote: disformation starting post I REALLY don't like. However he IS making an attempt to start producing reads. Earnest newbie with a weak entry I think. Weakly town. ritoky's sole post of note is an easy push on disformation. Other than that he's just posting nonsense and off-topic stuff. Coming across as pretty scummy to me; complete misdirection plays. So you say that you yourself did not like disformation's opening post, but you feel like ritoky is scummy for pushing on him? Is it not townie for ritoky to push on something that may very well be scummy? Furthermore, "easy push"? Since when are you so sure that disformation is town? Rest of your reads are pretty fluffy. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On May 03 2015 20:22 sicklucker wrote: I like your first point and I had the same thought altho I didnt think it ment that much. I think your pretty scummy so far. Like why did you even vote hts.. Because I felt like it? I felt like at least 2 out of 3 mafia were not in the thread yet at that point in time. Stab in the dark pressure. Are you even town? Why would voting HtS make me mafia? | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On May 03 2015 18:27 Tictock wrote: Apologies for being absent the first few hours of the game. My work sometimes has me in as early as 5am, and that is the case for the nest two days. I am a total Mafia noob. Never played a game in my life and until recently never piqued my interest. I've been on TL for a few years now and have seen the Mafia section plenty of times, so when I decided to try my hand at the game I naturally came here. So, given my newbishness, while I have read the thread up to this point (you guys were busy while I slept) I'm not too sure what to make of things. The suspicion around scott seems to have merit, but I will have to do a more thorough read of what transpired when I get some time. I expect I should be done with work by midday and will be more active then. Not alignment indicative, you really need to post something or personally I'm going to start scumming you as a lurker. You're waving that newbie flag way too hard (which I did in my very first game too, to hide the fact I was mafia). On May 03 2015 19:58 Superbia wrote: Celestial likely mafai. Introductory lists posts like that more often come from mafia than from town. Mafia feel like they need to contribute and are usually afraid to make a casual entry. The entire thing also starts off with an excuse: + Show Spoiler + On May 03 2015 11:34 -Celestial- wrote: Hey guys. Sorry for the late entry. I've been somewhat distracted playing KanColle recently; there's an event on and I'm desperate to clear it, first event I've been in. Anyway there's probably just about enough to write something on most people now so...off we go. Unfortunately in the time I've been away I've NOT been keeping an eye on games going on. Then again I tend to prefer any meta reading from games people have actually been in together. On with the show: What are you apologizing for? This feels like you yourself don't have any faith in your reads. This is likely because you had to fabricate them due to being mafia, because you feel confident enough to start a wagon on scott. Also, starting off with an apology for being late is pretty mafia. I have absolute confidence in my reads actually. My comment about keeping an eye on games was meant to be directed at the fact that I'm not using people's prior game experience as a source of info because I was expecting people to throw the usual "he/she/I alway(s) plays like this!" stuff at me in response to my reads. My apology was directed at the fact that I'd not been in thread yet and people were calling for me to say something. Nice misrepresentation here but no, I'm not mafia this time out. And "introductory list post is mafia"? Really? It was a solid wall of my thoughts on everyone up to that point with fingers pointed at three people. What a joke. There's also a flagrant disparity between what you say about disformation and ritoky (which leads me to believe both are town if you end up being mafia): + Show Spoiler + On May 03 2015 11:34 -Celestial- wrote: disformation starting post I REALLY don't like. However he IS making an attempt to start producing reads. Earnest newbie with a weak entry I think. Weakly town. ritoky's sole post of note is an easy push on disformation. Other than that he's just posting nonsense and off-topic stuff. Coming across as pretty scummy to me; complete misdirection plays. So you say that you yourself did not like disformation's opening post, but you feel like ritoky is scummy for pushing on him? Is it not townie for ritoky to push on something that may very well be scummy? Furthermore, "easy push"? Since when are you so sure that disformation is town? You're misrepresenting things again here. I already said in my last post that of my three red reads it was the weakest, AND that it wasn't just for the push on disinformation. Stop trying to pretend that it was solely for that push. I didn't like disinformation's opening post, no. But ultimately disinformation has posted stuff other than that so far. ritoky's actions up to that point had been to post garbage and pressure disinformation. Literally nothing else. disinformation's other posts make me somewhat think he's just a very newbie town player with a bad opening post. ritoky on the other hand hadn't posted anything at all to make me think he's not just trying to distract from mafia hunting. Given that both you and scott are scum, ritoky was the one who seemed to be looking to misdirect the most at that point. Rest of your reads are pretty fluffy. >Claiming that a post containing two and a half town reads, three red reads and a bunch of nulls on people who are primarily inactive or new is fluffy in an attempt to make me look wishy-washy and unconfident. Nice try, but you've just confirmed you're mafia. This chainsaw defence you're using for your scum buddy scott proves it. You're attacking his attacker, which is scummy as hell. Admittedly there's an outside chance that you're just OMGUSing me, but I think you're too experienced a player to do that, you're instead trying to save your buddy. At a guess you've told him in the mafia QT to shut up for a bit and stop making himself look worse whilst you try to get a different train going by undermining me and take the heat off him. Mafia team is Superbia and scott31337 + 1 other. Not sure about the last one, still don't like ritoky but can't say for certain. Guys, lets lynch scott. Personally I'm about 95% sure he's mafia at this point and if he's not he's playing in a way detrimental to town anyway. If scott flips red then we can pretty much auto-lynch Superbia and that'll probably get us two reds in two days. If he flips green then I'll have to totally re-evaluate, but I'd be mind blown if he actually did that the way he's playing here. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
What is/was your red read on ritoky then? Did you feel a need to include him as scum because you felt a need to put down a team of 3? Why did you mention ritoky's push on disinformation? Also, how long did it take you to formulate that response? I.e., when did you read my post and when did you start to post this? | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On May 03 2015 21:52 Superbia wrote: That associative read between me and scott is pretty reaching and meh. There is no chainsaw defence. You're defending him by attacking me, who also has a red read on you. That's a classic mafia side play. And now you're trying to distance yourself from it by claiming its reaching a bit. There was already an association between the two of you and you made it stronger with your post. You can claim that its reaching all you want but ultimately the association was there BEFORE you posted, you just made it worst. What is/was your red read on ritoky then? Did you feel a need to include him as scum because you felt a need to put down a team of 3? Why did you mention ritoky's push on disinformation? I wanted to try and get an early impression of who the whole team might by. My red read on him is as quoted, with the key part highlighted: ritoky's sole post of note is an easy push on disformation. Other than that he's just posting nonsense and off-topic stuff. Coming across as pretty scummy to me; complete misdirection plays. To elaborate: virtually all of his posts to that point read as someone trying to send down off into discussing other things rather than hunting for mafia. Apart from a very soft push on a very soft target, which I assume was made to make it look like he was actually doing something. It was a weaker read than my read of you and scott given your apparent collusion, but it was still a read. Since then he's done a bit more, but I'm still highly suspicious after that opening since he only started actually doing anything after I pushed him. Also, how long did it take you to formulate that response? I.e., when did you read my post and when did you start to post this? Well I woke up forty minutes ago, logged onto KanColle and came on here. So...within the last hour? | ||
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