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On April 30 2015 22:20 Palmar wrote:
Artanis is mafia for hopping onto the WoS wagon, I think he even said that in part he liked something I had said and now he's trying to call me mafia because reasons.
Artanis is mafia for defending WoS when there was no reason to do so. I know half of you morons defended him too, but you're all dumb. Artanis is less dumb. Slightly.
Artanis is mafia for trying to pretend like he was some sort of a town hero that got WoS lynched. Saying Trfel and him were to thank for it.
First: Being right does not make you town. I felt you were pushing Wave all day without being articulate in the reasons why. Your first case wasn't particularly good, and you easily jumped onto Yamato when that train rolled along.
Second: Reason was I thought you were calling Wave Scum for reasons that don't make him scum. Though he flipped scum, I still stand by that those particular things did not make him scum. I'm also wrong plenty of times, more so as town than scum probably.
Third: You can act all you want as if you were the reason Wave got lynched. You weren't. Had I not re-evaluated him triggering Trfel to do so, Yamato would've probably been lynched instead.
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On April 30 2015 22:25 Palmar wrote:
Like to me the only realistic option for an alternative to Artanis is Yamato because of the other case I made this game that is probably still valid. I was just less sure on yamato than WoS.
i could see yamato actually but i dunnae that exchange at the beginning of the game looks hella weird as scum on scum
not impossible but weird
do you disagree?
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On April 30 2015 22:23 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game. No. He was mafia because of the things I said. I don't tunnel shit for 2 days unless I'm sure. And I have enough of a track record for day 1 to be allowed to be fucking sure when I am.
Lynch Toad
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lol and i'm my usual self i lynched him because i couldn't get my lynch and because i didn't like him when we talked (namely he spent more time doing anything but pushing his scumread) -_- i know i play like a scrub but when i try to play with logic i'm actually wrong more frequently crazy as that seems
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On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game.
Ignore large parts of the game? I ignored you and trfel not switching to yamato? what else did i ignore?
What do you think i didn't think about critically?
Why does rsoultin start liking me for my recent posting and artanis starts disliking me.
At least im meeting palmars expectations
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On April 30 2015 22:29 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game. Ignore large parts of the game? I ignored you and trfel not switching to yamato? what else did i ignore? What do you think i didn't think about critically? Why does rsoultin start liking me for my recent posting and artanis starts disliking me. At least im meeting palmars expectations
i don't really like you for your last post -_-
but whatever
who should we lynch?
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On April 30 2015 22:23 rsoultin wrote:
lol
palmar, you've bussed teammates before, i don't think anyone's saying you're incapable of finding scum day 1 xP that would be ludicrous
i find it kinda difficult to believe the entirety of your scumread is based on you think artanis should have sheeped you though xP
This is why you're bad and you won't be better until you recognize this flaw.
You're looking at the what when you should be looking at the how.
It's completely irrelevant whether or not I have bused teammates before. I've played about a million games of mafia and I've probably pulled just about any strategy under the sun out at some point. If you want to actually try to be less shit, you need to start looking at each individual case and check it against what you think.
I have bused teammates and I have been right on day 1. So in the end your approach results in absolutely no fucking conclusion.
So... how do you do this?
You look at how I did it. Go read my case on WoS, go read my interactions with him and think to yourself "Do I believe Palmar genuinely believes the things he's saying?". Am I being insightful or am I using some shitty generic scumtells to build my case. Am I explaining why I think what I think in a manner that looks like these are genuine thoughts and not fabricated bullshit on a teammate?
Go forth and try.
You'll probably fail, but it's better to have tried and failed but not to have tried at all.
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On April 30 2015 22:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:23 Palmar wrote:On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game. No. He was mafia because of the things I said. I don't tunnel shit for 2 days unless I'm sure. And I have enough of a track record for day 1 to be allowed to be fucking sure when I am. Lynch Toad
I don't have a 100% hit rate in those things? What a shocker.
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i'm out btw
no palmar i'm not lynching today unless i have time before EoD to review everything
might i suggest you do a little more work than just who is meeting your expectations? xP
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On April 30 2015 22:29 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game. Ignore large parts of the game? I ignored you and trfel not switching to yamato? what else did i ignore? What do you think i didn't think about critically? Why does rsoultin start liking me for my recent posting and artanis starts disliking me. At least im meeting palmars expectations
Basically you seemed to ignore everything that happened end of D2, start of D3. The whole Wave/Yamato thing.
My alignment. Like I said, your conclusion was half-assed. "These things make him town but there's this one contradiction that makes me go eh but I think he's town enough that I don't want to lynch him this cycle". When you're this uncertain as town, one usually digs in a little bit more.
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On April 30 2015 22:27 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:25 Palmar wrote:
Like to me the only realistic option for an alternative to Artanis is Yamato because of the other case I made this game that is probably still valid. I was just less sure on yamato than WoS. i could see yamato actually but i dunnae that exchange at the beginning of the game looks hella weird as scum on scum not impossible but weird do you disagree?
Read my case. I don't back and forth with trash tier.
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On April 30 2015 22:31 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:23 rsoultin wrote:
lol
palmar, you've bussed teammates before, i don't think anyone's saying you're incapable of finding scum day 1 xP that would be ludicrous
i find it kinda difficult to believe the entirety of your scumread is based on you think artanis should have sheeped you though xP This is why you're bad and you won't be better until you recognize this flaw. You're looking at the what when you should be looking at the how. It's completely irrelevant whether or not I have bused teammates before. I've played about a million games of mafia and I've probably pulled just about any strategy under the sun out at some point. If you want to actually try to be less shit, you need to start looking at each individual case and check it against what you think. I have bused teammates and I have been right on day 1. So in the end your approach results in absolutely no fucking conclusion. So... how do you do this? You look at how I did it. Go read my case on WoS, go read my interactions with him and think to yourself "Do I believe Palmar genuinely believes the things he's saying?". Am I being insightful or am I using some shitty generic scumtells to build my case. Am I explaining why I think what I think in a manner that looks like these are genuine thoughts and not fabricated bullshit on a teammate? Go forth and try. You'll probably fail, but it's better to have tried and failed but not to have tried at all.
i'm not interested in arguing with town xP stop defending yourself when no one is lynching you it just makes me want to really be awful and spite vote you for lolz
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On April 30 2015 22:30 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:29 Breshke wrote:On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game. Ignore large parts of the game? I ignored you and trfel not switching to yamato? what else did i ignore? What do you think i didn't think about critically? Why does rsoultin start liking me for my recent posting and artanis starts disliking me. At least im meeting palmars expectations i don't really like you for your last post -_- but whatever who should we lynch?
Wtf did you start liking me for then because between that post and from when you last said you ddint like me ive done fuck all.
at this stage my default answer is palmar but i wont be voting for him until I look into him which ill be doing tomorrow.
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On April 30 2015 22:32 rsoultin wrote:
i'm out btw
no palmar i'm not lynching today unless i have time before EoD to review everything
might i suggest you do a little more work than just who is meeting your expectations? xP
No.
I have a blueprint to win the game. And if you guys follow it, we win.
step 1: lynch Artanis.
step 2: lynch yamato
Feel free to flip them around.
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On April 30 2015 22:33 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:31 Palmar wrote:On April 30 2015 22:23 rsoultin wrote:
lol
palmar, you've bussed teammates before, i don't think anyone's saying you're incapable of finding scum day 1 xP that would be ludicrous
i find it kinda difficult to believe the entirety of your scumread is based on you think artanis should have sheeped you though xP This is why you're bad and you won't be better until you recognize this flaw. You're looking at the what when you should be looking at the how. It's completely irrelevant whether or not I have bused teammates before. I've played about a million games of mafia and I've probably pulled just about any strategy under the sun out at some point. If you want to actually try to be less shit, you need to start looking at each individual case and check it against what you think. I have bused teammates and I have been right on day 1. So in the end your approach results in absolutely no fucking conclusion. So... how do you do this? You look at how I did it. Go read my case on WoS, go read my interactions with him and think to yourself "Do I believe Palmar genuinely believes the things he's saying?". Am I being insightful or am I using some shitty generic scumtells to build my case. Am I explaining why I think what I think in a manner that looks like these are genuine thoughts and not fabricated bullshit on a teammate? Go forth and try. You'll probably fail, but it's better to have tried and failed but not to have tried at all. i'm not interested in arguing with town xP stop defending yourself when no one is lynching you it just makes me want to really be awful and spite vote you for lolz
I won't be satisfied until you kiss the footsteps of your lord and savior town jesus.
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On April 30 2015 22:31 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 30 2015 22:23 Palmar wrote:On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game. No. He was mafia because of the things I said. I don't tunnel shit for 2 days unless I'm sure. And I have enough of a track record for day 1 to be allowed to be fucking sure when I am. Lynch Toad I don't have a 100% hit rate in those things? What a shocker.
The recent games I've seen of you, you haven't been particularly spectacular on D1. I believe in XXX you tried lynching Marv for a long time. In Hammertime which I hosted, it was Toad. Compounded with the fact that you didn't really seem to be re-evaluating much during the day at all I don't put as much stock in your reads as you would like me to.
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On April 30 2015 22:33 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:32 rsoultin wrote:
i'm out btw
no palmar i'm not lynching today unless i have time before EoD to review everything
might i suggest you do a little more work than just who is meeting your expectations? xP No. I have a blueprint to win the game. And if you guys follow it, we win. step 1: lynch Artanis. step 2: lynch yamato Feel free to flip them around.
How certain are you that Breshke is town and why?
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On April 30 2015 22:33 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:30 rsoultin wrote:On April 30 2015 22:29 Breshke wrote:On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game. Ignore large parts of the game? I ignored you and trfel not switching to yamato? what else did i ignore? What do you think i didn't think about critically? Why does rsoultin start liking me for my recent posting and artanis starts disliking me. At least im meeting palmars expectations i don't really like you for your last post -_- but whatever who should we lynch? Wtf did you start liking me for then because between that post and from when you last said you ddint like me ive done fuck all. at this stage my default answer is palmar but i wont be voting for him until I look into him which ill be doing tomorrow.
wow now you're reading half my posts! lol it was in the same post you twit
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On April 30 2015 22:34 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:33 rsoultin wrote:On April 30 2015 22:31 Palmar wrote:On April 30 2015 22:23 rsoultin wrote:
lol
palmar, you've bussed teammates before, i don't think anyone's saying you're incapable of finding scum day 1 xP that would be ludicrous
i find it kinda difficult to believe the entirety of your scumread is based on you think artanis should have sheeped you though xP This is why you're bad and you won't be better until you recognize this flaw. You're looking at the what when you should be looking at the how. It's completely irrelevant whether or not I have bused teammates before. I've played about a million games of mafia and I've probably pulled just about any strategy under the sun out at some point. If you want to actually try to be less shit, you need to start looking at each individual case and check it against what you think. I have bused teammates and I have been right on day 1. So in the end your approach results in absolutely no fucking conclusion. So... how do you do this? You look at how I did it. Go read my case on WoS, go read my interactions with him and think to yourself "Do I believe Palmar genuinely believes the things he's saying?". Am I being insightful or am I using some shitty generic scumtells to build my case. Am I explaining why I think what I think in a manner that looks like these are genuine thoughts and not fabricated bullshit on a teammate? Go forth and try. You'll probably fail, but it's better to have tried and failed but not to have tried at all. i'm not interested in arguing with town xP stop defending yourself when no one is lynching you it just makes me want to really be awful and spite vote you for lolz I won't be satisfied until you kiss the footsteps of your lord and savior town jesus.
lol i've played too many games with you to do that xP
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On April 30 2015 22:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:29 Breshke wrote:On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game. Ignore large parts of the game? I ignored you and trfel not switching to yamato? what else did i ignore? What do you think i didn't think about critically? Why does rsoultin start liking me for my recent posting and artanis starts disliking me. At least im meeting palmars expectations Basically you seemed to ignore everything that happened end of D2, start of D3. The whole Wave/Yamato thing. My alignment. Like I said, your conclusion was half-assed. "These things make him town but there's this one contradiction that makes me go eh but I think he's town enough that I don't want to lynch him this cycle". When you're this uncertain as town, one usually digs in a little bit more.
So no that isn't most of the game. Also i don't think you look as amazing from not lynching yamato as you think you do. Why as scum could you not have that out to lynch yamato and not take it to make yourself look better. If yamato gets lynched and flips town most likely wave gets lynched the next day anyway its just wifom.
How do you want me to dig in? The palmar stuff i found not important in context because you picked up the wagon later on. The trfel stuff was a contradiction yes and i still don't like it but why can't someone who is town do something that doesn't make sense to me.
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