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On April 28 2015 14:01 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 13:52 rsoultin wrote:On April 28 2015 13:50 Breshke wrote:
Wave's post of "me or yamato" has really caught me off guard by the way. ...does that make you think anything about his alignment or what? Obviously yes. I'm pushing for this 3 man lynch idea and he just totally take myself out of the equation and continues to push the person I am scum reading. Theoretically this is probably how wave wins the game. Get's the lynch on yamato today only needs one townie to be wrong tomorrow which would be me because his defense of me is really really compelling to read him town.The thing is I don't think im wrong on yamato so even if I wasn't reading wave town this would be another reason to not lynch him as he is basically pushing what I think is a mafia lynch. Also a side note Rso I also think your thoughts that wave and especially myself are mafia is affecting how you look at yamato.
this post lol ><
dunnae seemed really strange, almost like breshke was setting up for the possibility of a wave or a yamato flip here
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i know i seem tunneled and in effect i probably am but there's just too much weirdness and frankly i cannot see any reason whatsoever for wave to take breshke off the table if breshke is town
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You may be convincing me here. I did find that post a bit strange and I can see how TMI plays into it. It's also possible he was working on distancing himself from Breshke through the hard townread thing. I can see it.
I kinda still want to lynch Palmar first though. Just because it's more fun.
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lol >< if you want to do that be my guest? i'd rather lynch who i most think is scum though xP
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I would if I single handidly had the majority vote 
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Mmmm i can understand the problem you would have with that post rso but i was just being realistic. Like look at it from my point of view I know im town and i was fairly sure wave was town (lol). Ive tried making everyone agree to narrowing the lynch pool to me yamato and wave. Then wave comes in and takes me out. I look at this and its like okay if he is mafia he is reducing the chance town gets lynched and i try think of possible mafia motives.
The only one that came to mind was that if he gets yamato lynched he can probs use the fact that he pocketed me to win the next phase.
That being said like why would he as scum go for thos play so while it was possible i thought it was unlikely. obviously i thought wrong.
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On April 30 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
Mmmm i can understand the problem you would have with that post rso but i was just being realistic. Like look at it from my point of view I know im town and i was fairly sure wave was town (lol). Ive tried making everyone agree to narrowing the lynch pool to me yamato and wave. Then wave comes in and takes me out. I look at this and its like okay if he is mafia he is reducing the chance town gets lynched and i try think of possible mafia motives.
The only one that came to mind was that if he gets yamato lynched he can probs use the fact that he pocketed me to win the next phase.
That being said like why would he as scum go for thos play so while it was possible i thought it was unlikely. obviously i thought wrong.
the best reason for him to go for that play if he's scum is if you're scum with him -shrugs-
i mean i'm sorry if you're town, but you can't deny the logic
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On April 30 2015 10:11 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
Mmmm i can understand the problem you would have with that post rso but i was just being realistic. Like look at it from my point of view I know im town and i was fairly sure wave was town (lol). Ive tried making everyone agree to narrowing the lynch pool to me yamato and wave. Then wave comes in and takes me out. I look at this and its like okay if he is mafia he is reducing the chance town gets lynched and i try think of possible mafia motives.
The only one that came to mind was that if he gets yamato lynched he can probs use the fact that he pocketed me to win the next phase.
That being said like why would he as scum go for thos play so while it was possible i thought it was unlikely. obviously i thought wrong. the best reason for him to go for that play if he's scum is if you're scum with him -shrugs- i mean i'm sorry if you're town, but you can't deny the logic
Yeah your right. So you think my play as scum is to limit the lynch to me my scumbuddy and one town?
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On April 30 2015 10:15 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 10:11 rsoultin wrote:On April 30 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
Mmmm i can understand the problem you would have with that post rso but i was just being realistic. Like look at it from my point of view I know im town and i was fairly sure wave was town (lol). Ive tried making everyone agree to narrowing the lynch pool to me yamato and wave. Then wave comes in and takes me out. I look at this and its like okay if he is mafia he is reducing the chance town gets lynched and i try think of possible mafia motives.
The only one that came to mind was that if he gets yamato lynched he can probs use the fact that he pocketed me to win the next phase.
That being said like why would he as scum go for thos play so while it was possible i thought it was unlikely. obviously i thought wrong. the best reason for him to go for that play if he's scum is if you're scum with him -shrugs- i mean i'm sorry if you're town, but you can't deny the logic Yeah your right. So you think my play as scum is to limit the lynch to me my scumbuddy and one town?
lol you think you were calling the lynch? xP
it's not like people were really talking about anyone else
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Hi.
I'm still pretty happy about the lynch yesterday  It feels good to be right, even though I invalidated it by doubting myself later. At least I was right at one point.
I need to look again to see if this makes Artanis confirmed town, but I don't think that it does. It does look extremely good for him, despite all of the earlier reasons I had to townread him, but I suppose he could do this as mafia.
That really just leaves Breshke, yamato77, and Palmar. One good townread would even be enough to win the game. For now, I'm kind of leaning towards Palmar being the most town still.
I suppose with a two player scum team, I feel like scum could be extremely strange in their interactions. It makes me think that trying to use association reads is extremely dangerous.
Anyway, I probably won't be here for the deadline tomorrow (or the day after that, maybe even...). I'm moving, I should be able to be online enough, just at random times. Sorry.
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On April 30 2015 10:15 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 10:11 rsoultin wrote:On April 30 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
Mmmm i can understand the problem you would have with that post rso but i was just being realistic. Like look at it from my point of view I know im town and i was fairly sure wave was town (lol). Ive tried making everyone agree to narrowing the lynch pool to me yamato and wave. Then wave comes in and takes me out. I look at this and its like okay if he is mafia he is reducing the chance town gets lynched and i try think of possible mafia motives.
The only one that came to mind was that if he gets yamato lynched he can probs use the fact that he pocketed me to win the next phase.
That being said like why would he as scum go for thos play so while it was possible i thought it was unlikely. obviously i thought wrong. the best reason for him to go for that play if he's scum is if you're scum with him -shrugs- i mean i'm sorry if you're town, but you can't deny the logic Yeah your right. So you think my play as scum is to limit the lynch to me my scumbuddy and one town? I could easily see scum trying to take a town out of the lynch pool.
First, it looks good for them (less playing for survival). Second, they get to pocket someone. Third, it all depends on the thread position, and I don't think that Breshke no longer being an option affected WaveofShadow's chances of being lynched that much.
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lol umm
considering the two voting for bresh ended up voting for wave i think your assessment is off truffle
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On April 30 2015 10:28 rsoultin wrote:
lol umm
considering the two voting for bresh ended up voting for wave i think your assessment is off truffle I don't think that WaveofShadow insisting that Breshke wasn't lynched had anything to do with this.
It's not like WaveofShadow could have flipped and started scumreading Breshke there, anyway.
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Yeah but you didnt switch your vote on me because wave took me off the table i assume rso so that has no bearing
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Okay so rso is confirmed town i think.
Trfel is town. Fairly sure yama is town considering how wrong ive been and how he was acting EOD
That leaves me with art and palmar
I cant do much right now im just waiting for a group partner to rock up to do an assighnment but I like art pushing on palmar today because it would be much easier to kill me this phase with rso around.
I have already said i could see palmar pushing on wave like this as scum scum but what mostly gives me pause is his dumbtell about noy knowing the NK could be withheld which would make sense if he actually didnt know or could just easily be faked i guess
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On April 30 2015 10:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 10:15 Breshke wrote:On April 30 2015 10:11 rsoultin wrote:On April 30 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
Mmmm i can understand the problem you would have with that post rso but i was just being realistic. Like look at it from my point of view I know im town and i was fairly sure wave was town (lol). Ive tried making everyone agree to narrowing the lynch pool to me yamato and wave. Then wave comes in and takes me out. I look at this and its like okay if he is mafia he is reducing the chance town gets lynched and i try think of possible mafia motives.
The only one that came to mind was that if he gets yamato lynched he can probs use the fact that he pocketed me to win the next phase.
That being said like why would he as scum go for thos play so while it was possible i thought it was unlikely. obviously i thought wrong. the best reason for him to go for that play if he's scum is if you're scum with him -shrugs- i mean i'm sorry if you're town, but you can't deny the logic Yeah your right. So you think my play as scum is to limit the lynch to me my scumbuddy and one town? lol you think you were calling the lynch? xP it's not like people were really talking about anyone else
So if you dismiss it when i do it why do you think when wave does it it means something
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When you do what? Youre gonna have to quote what you mean. Cause frankly the lynch was between you three anyway. So why should i be impressed if youre echoing that?
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Contagem de Votos:
Breshke(2)-Yamato, rsoultin
until the possible day end
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch
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Mafia NK Clarification:
A bunch of people asked about the properties of the mafia NK's last night. I apologize for not making things as clear as they should be, so here are the complete properties of mafia night kills this game. I'm admittedly not happy about how I set this up in retrospect, and it'll likely be changed in my future games. Regardless, here's what we're going by this game:
Mafia can opt not to shoot and store their KP for future nights.
Mafia are not forced to shoot if they are holding multiple KP.
There is no limit on how much KP that can be "stored."
One mafia can deliver multiple KP at the same time on however many targets they wish.
If further clarifications are needed, please PM me.
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On April 30 2015 12:12 rsoultin wrote:
When you do what? Youre gonna have to quote what you mean. Cause frankly the lynch was between you three anyway. So why should i be impressed if youre echoing that?
Okay so you say that wave taking me off the table means the most likely from that scenario myself and wave are mafia together.
Yet when you asses the fact that I was trying to make the lynch between myself yamato and wave you do not find it strange that I would make the lynch between myself my scum partner and one town. You CORRECTLY say that it doesn't matter because it is not like I was picking the lynch anyway.
However you are letting your preconceived ideas about my alignment affect your judgment as obviously wave wasn't choosing who got lynched either like no one was going to not consider me for the lynch because wave said ITS ME OR YAMATO.
Like you are clearly tunneld on me rsoul and thats w/e like from your PoV it might even be a right tunnel but even if you still think im mafia you need to clearly take a step back and consider my alignment properly. (I say this knowing full well it might piss you off because you will say you have been already but im giving a case of where you havn't so yeah don't let this piss you off)
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