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On April 21 2015 12:54 rsoultin wrote:
^ precisely this, as an answer to your question, bresh
the lynch mechanic is not what he thought it was but his reads are the same lol >< with the exception of his read on you
so of course it's relevant to ask him why he has different reads on two players doing essentially the same thing
EBWOP: ninja'd by damdy -_-
that should have pointed to yamato's reads, obviously
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On April 21 2015 12:53 Damdred wrote:
Guys seriously this is simple.
bh isn't playing, lynch bh.
##vote blazinghand
you're boring me
be interesting
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On April 21 2015 12:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've already explained that rsoul
IVE ALREADY EXPLAINED IT
THEY DONT FEEL THE SAME TO ME
you're going to hate me returning to the semantics thing, buuuutttt....
you are now saying that yamato can't make up something to joke vote you xP
but it's fine for artie to joke vote you with that silly reason?
i don't see what the difference is. perhaps you can explain it better without ALL CAPSING thank you much!
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On April 21 2015 13:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is the absolute final time.
I'm going to spell it out so it's absolutely crystal fucking clear, and if it's still not enough then just go ahead and lynch me for it or some shit because unless it's going somewhere, this is ridiculous already.
Yamato gave some reason directly referencing something he said to me outside of the game that i don't remember, probably something he jokingly said to me at some point yesterday or the day before...? I don't consider that a reason because it has zero direct reference to anything that occurs within the confines of this game and is directly related to something yamato and I supposedly talked about. As that is the case, he would do it as either alignment since supposedly he said he would do it and therefore is completely alignment UNindicative.
Artanis' reason I have no knowledge of and has no direct reference to me, so I naturally find it a little odder to bring something like that up---it is my opinion that that could draw more attention than something yamato can directly reference to something he and I supposedly did
there we go lol that makes more sense ^^ thank you for actually detailing it out
so your slight townread is essentially based on Artie's vote draws more attention which he wouldn't want as scum, is that correct?
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lol i agree on WoS now that he's explained in a way that i can follow >>
and yes, townreading me is super popular always xD so you get no points for that -slaps wrist-
disagree on artie. bite me xP
also:
-1 town point for trying to get free towncred from artie
that is -2 now truffle :0
meeeeeh@damdy's list post
i don't even know where to begin to ask questions about reads with no (or almost no) explanation so...just meh. the boredom is real :/
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you know, at some point this lumping me in with yamato when i clearly was interested in another point entirely is going to annoy me breeeeeshke ^^
hint: that point is probably already past
damdy, if you already know the failings in your own list post (and your intent was to get people to react to it so you could help figure out alignments) pointing out the questions defeats that purpose and you should simply address the failure. i've no interest in cooperating with an uncooperative stick-in-the-mud ^^
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On April 21 2015 15:20 Damdred wrote:
Well those are EXCELLENT questions you seem to be some form of medium that has stolen these very thoughts from the inside of my head!
Now bh is an interesting case as I'm sure he will come into the thread at a later time and hive some form of excuse of his absence for the first however many hours. But as always his scum meta is to do as little as possible and scrape by on fabrications and afking. And as such him being gone is scummy espe ially while he is active elsewhere.
This part is a bit trickier, trfel as scum in my experience likes to be in the thick of the action trying to shape other peoples reads and causing subtle confusions. Very unlike bh scum game which is more behind the scenes, besides trfels last bit post who h was ok that puts him more towards the bottom of null rather than town.
Breshke is one of the greatest forces of good in the thread amen. Has some of the highest activity good thoughts questions and interacting with everyone he can. Really good town atm.
Look at the strange uneveness that wave uses between arts is and Yamato for instance it caught my eye pretty fast. He is perfectly fine with art and gives art a town lean(later on) for the way he voted for him even if it was silly. Really strange reactions and slight jnconsitincies in how he is playing and interacting push him to this level.
great questions
so you're not satisfied with his explanation at the bottom of the previous page? mind saying why not?
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On April 21 2015 15:26 Damdred wrote:
How can you be satisfied with such a drastic over reaction? Arts is is a great player who sheeped onto what at that point in time a joke vote with a seemingly joke phrase and vote. And wave gives this as a response I don't buy it at all, its over explaining and not really saying anything
the overreaction is explained by not understanding the lynch mechanic xP and he wasn't the only one who didn't understand it daaaaamdy
as for the artie vs. yama thing...i don't agree with the analysis but i don't think wrong = scum lol >< and can see how he arrived at the conclusion now that he's explained it
do you have a specific example(s) of the bh meta you were referring to?
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On April 21 2015 15:29 Damdred wrote:
Literally it might be one of the worst reasons to town read someone ever. Do scum never do pressure votes or joke votes and then not do much else?
ummm...you did notice that breshke also townread him for it, and the person you're arguing with has artie as a scumlean? yet you're fine with breshke? so...what's your point?
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On April 21 2015 15:39 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 15:32 rsoultin wrote:On April 21 2015 15:29 Damdred wrote:
Literally it might be one of the worst reasons to town read someone ever. Do scum never do pressure votes or joke votes and then not do much else?
ummm...you did notice that breshke also townread him for it, and the person you're arguing with has artie as a scumlean? yet you're fine with breshke? so...what's your point? I didn't townread him for the vote i town read him for the reason because it seemed super weird to me from a scum mindset. To add to that when he asked me about how i felt that you disagreed with me he had the exact same kind of thought as me exact i didn't post it because im more cautious calling you town after last game. Has rfel played more than one game of scum the database only has the student game.
he was 3rd party in aperture...but other than that nope ^^
lol, wave didn't townread artie for just the vote either -_- he townread him for the reason. thank you for further validating my point though xP
eh
i don't put any weight on people townreading me, anymore. in fact it's scum-favored to townread me early because even if it's not obvious now, they know that it'll become obvious as the game progresses 
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Lol if you cant see the similarity between those two reads on artie i dont onow what to tell you...both of you basically said hes town cause his reason for voting was odd...
Like read it when you quote it yeah?
Ive been giving out reads? I still have artie at a scum lean...liked yama's entrance though am a touch leary of all the appeals to me during his argument with wave, so the read is a little weaker now. already said i was inclined to agree with trfel that wave leans town after the exchange...
Beyond that nothing worth discussing xP and all of that is pretty much already in my filter sooooo
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On April 22 2015 03:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't get what it is with games I join lately or if it's just apathy in general or some shit, but games are extremely boring when no one talks.
I'm around for a couple hours if anyone wants to bother.
Thanks for the vote of confidence Palmar.
lol and what is it that you want to talk about?
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On April 21 2015 19:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 14:28 Trfel wrote:On April 21 2015 10:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 21 2015 09:59 Breshke wrote:On April 21 2015 09:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 21 2015 09:55 Breshke wrote:On April 21 2015 09:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 21 2015 09:46 Breshke wrote:On April 21 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:On April 21 2015 09:34 Breshke wrote:
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Yeah haha all jokes aside in my limited experiance with art ive never seen him mention stats before so him referencing town stats and relating it to this game just seems like a weird way for a scum artanis to open.
This is obviously very weak hence the tentative part. so you don't find it odd at all that he managed to enter with a post implying that he's town (via the stats comment) plus over-explaining what should be a joke-sheep of a joke-vote? by over-explaining i mean: On April 21 2015 09:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##vote: waveofshadow
I'm ok with any lynch that isn't me since I need to overtake kita in the not lynched as town percentage tab. Therefore, any lynch that is not me furthers this condition and I support this lynch.
##Vote WaveofShadow why even include the bolded sentence when it's clear in the first lol >< if anything that deserves a light scum lean, not a light town lean fitting awkwardly into the joking phase like that Ehh I disagree. I don't see it as that awkward or over explainy really. I didn't/don't really see it as awkward either. Nor do i really think that awkward always equals scum. Do you think her reading into it in that way says anything about her alignment? No because i can see how she would see it that way I actually think it makes her slightly likelier to be town as I find it unlikely scum would go in against a tone read of another player right off the bat. I have no way to prove this but i actually had it written that it was slightly townie because i find her to be a lot more neutral as scum You get a tentative townread for this post. More free towncred to the first person to correctly point out why. Mafia wouldn't bother with suggesting something and admitting that it can't be proved in the same post, this early on, when it doesn't matter like this. Right? Pretty much. It's something that you have absolutely no reason to post as scum because it doesn't achieve anything, yet when you're town it's something you may say because it was in the back of your mind, a very human response. Actually having thought about it, I could see scum saying it, but I do think it's a lot likelier from town. Arsoul, why is it bad that someone else explains something I've pinged?
so i can't decide which is more boring here, the fact that if you're taking me seriously the obvious is escaping you, or the fact that if you're taking me seriously in my posts to mostly inactive trfel you're already wrong xP
you've got nothing more interesting to talk about?
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On April 22 2015 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
I love that gifs are a thing this game.
I dunno....thoughts on damdred maybe?
I'm pretty underwhelmed.
i liked one and only one of his posts
-channels my inner artie-
free towncred if you can pick out which one!
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lol it's not hypocritical in the sense that i've provided a ton of opinions to the thread where you really haven't ^^ if you want to talk about damdred, let's talk about him, but i want to see your opinion fleshed out first
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On April 21 2015 15:20 Damdred wrote:
Well those are EXCELLENT questions you seem to be some form of medium that has stolen these very thoughts from the inside of my head!
Now bh is an interesting case as I'm sure he will come into the thread at a later time and hive some form of excuse of his absence for the first however many hours. But as always his scum meta is to do as little as possible and scrape by on fabrications and afking. And as such him being gone is scummy espe ially while he is active elsewhere.
This part is a bit trickier, trfel as scum in my experience likes to be in the thick of the action trying to shape other peoples reads and causing subtle confusions. Very unlike bh scum game which is more behind the scenes, besides trfels last bit post who h was ok that puts him more towards the bottom of null rather than town.
Breshke is one of the greatest forces of good in the thread amen. Has some of the highest activity good thoughts questions and interacting with everyone he can. Really good town atm.
Look at the strange uneveness that wave uses between arts is and Yamato for instance it caught my eye pretty fast. He is perfectly fine with art and gives art a town lean(later on) for the way he voted for him even if it was silly. Really strange reactions and slight jnconsitincies in how he is playing and interacting push him to this level.
great questions
i actually thought this was his only not terrible post...he reiterated what was already being said about you (wave), but everything else except maybe the part on breshke (which was so generic i find myself getting glassy-eyed reading it) was at least a different perspective than some of the others brought to the thread
plus the sarcasm just makes me feel better about him in general xP
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i see what you're saying about going back and saying his only scumread is a plynch, though
@artie
lol if i've got a scale from 0-100 with 100 being SUPER!TOWN and 0 being claimed scum, truffle is riding at a 48 (minus 2 townie points)
it's kinda serious but not enough to lynch him for. truffle is one player i know very well and am confident i can read once he starts actually doing something, which he really hasn't yet
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On April 22 2015 04:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
@Arsoul
Now you make it sound like your comment was in fact serious. What is scummy about what Trfel did there?
lol honestly it's a meta-tone thing that i've just had such great luck explaining in the past, so i'm not going to bother unless the curiosity is just eating you up inside. i'm not even sure that it makes him scum. i just don't see town!truffle in his posting yet
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On April 21 2015 14:28 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:On April 21 2015 09:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##vote: waveofshadow
I'm ok with any lynch that isn't me since I need to overtake kita in the not lynched as town percentage tab. Therefore, any lynch that is not me furthers this condition and I support this lynch.
##Vote WaveofShadow why even include the bolded sentence when it's clear in the first lol >< if anything that deserves a light scum lean, not a light town lean fitting awkwardly into the joking phase like that On the contrary, that's the sentence that makes the joke. It's weak without it. Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 10:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 21 2015 09:59 Breshke wrote:On April 21 2015 09:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 21 2015 09:55 Breshke wrote:On April 21 2015 09:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 21 2015 09:46 Breshke wrote:On April 21 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:On April 21 2015 09:34 Breshke wrote:On April 21 2015 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
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lol seriously? xP Yeah haha all jokes aside in my limited experiance with art ive never seen him mention stats before so him referencing town stats and relating it to this game just seems like a weird way for a scum artanis to open. This is obviously very weak hence the tentative part. so you don't find it odd at all that he managed to enter with a post implying that he's town (via the stats comment) plus over-explaining what should be a joke-sheep of a joke-vote? by over-explaining i mean: On April 21 2015 09:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##vote: waveofshadow
I'm ok with any lynch that isn't me since I need to overtake kita in the not lynched as town percentage tab. Therefore, any lynch that is not me furthers this condition and I support this lynch.
##Vote WaveofShadow why even include the bolded sentence when it's clear in the first lol >< if anything that deserves a light scum lean, not a light town lean fitting awkwardly into the joking phase like that Ehh I disagree. I don't see it as that awkward or over explainy really. I didn't/don't really see it as awkward either. Nor do i really think that awkward always equals scum. Do you think her reading into it in that way says anything about her alignment? No because i can see how she would see it that way I actually think it makes her slightly likelier to be town as I find it unlikely scum would go in against a tone read of another player right off the bat. I have no way to prove this but i actually had it written that it was slightly townie because i find her to be a lot more neutral as scum You get a tentative townread for this post. More free towncred to the first person to correctly point out why. Mafia wouldn't bother with suggesting something and admitting that it can't be proved in the same post, this early on, when it doesn't matter like this. Right? I find it extremely surprising how WaveofShadow reacted to Breshke's vote. As if the third vote is any scummier than the first two on a joke wagon. It just means that Breshke didn't think of it first, that's all. I'm hoping that he did this to generate discussion. However, it seems that WaveofShadow didn't realize that votes are only counted every 24 hours. I suppose his play makes sense with this in mind. I actually think that this makes WaveofShadow likely to be town, as mafia would have realized this via the scum QT (which you bet he would be checking this early in the game, and with three votes on him). Of course he could fake it anyway, but his posts seem genuine enough (including the frustrated tone), so I kind of doubt that this is the case. And this also falls apart if his partner is inactive. Still, I see this more as a town play. He feels frustrated, not panicked. And trying to make the most of the situation, not trying to save himself. Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 12:04 rsoultin wrote:
lol i thought he was mocking truffle with his post :/ that would have been so clever Not really, mocking me is quite easy. You've proved this time and time again. WaveofShadow's play does show some inconsistencies (minor), and some things that don't make sense. But I see them being in line with him being flustered over the opening. If this continues, though, perhaps more suspicion is warranted. Town read on rsoultin just because making a strong townread on her early in the game is super popular + Show Spoiler +Not a strong townread, but she immediately started the game by aggressively discussing and pointing things out. I don't think that rsoultin would have played like this, she would have been more content to let yamato77 and WaveofShadow fight. Plus, toneread. Hence, town lean. . + Show Spoiler [to rsoultin] +I wonder how long it will take you to learn the patterns of my entrance posts. And no, it's not a "hello world" program. We haven't learned to output two words yet, so it's just a "hello" program. To be honest, I'm stuck on step 1: turn the computer on.
alright, lol fine...i'll talk about his only post with any content to speak of xP
- he's simply wrong about the artie post zzzzz not-alignment-indicative, but that he feels the need to comment at all, don't know why. he doesn't go on to say his own read on artie, just that he doesn't agree with my comment
- WoS read is all fucking over the place, first it's surprising, then he's like disappointed or something wave simply wasn't reading, onto townlean, oh wait there were some inconsistencies so maybe not? there is no focus in this read at all, and he basically just summarized everything everyone else said about wave
- townread on me blah. already said why i don't find that alignment indicative like ever. i'm obv town, everyone (or almost everyone) has noted it, say something interesting
- that leaves his only real contribution his answer to you, art...the free towncred post
so like i said, not seeing a town!truffle in his posting. he looks like he's struggling to find something to say
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so no one wants to talk about truffle's post, hm? xP
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