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On April 19 2015 04:34 Vivax wrote:
HF and SL both acting scummy since EoD by insisting on false representations of me + all the other stuff me and Wave said, him saying that anyone not voting LS was scummy etc., he should know better than that.
IIRC he also said he didn't post cause strategy and this night he said he didn't post cause busy, so what now?
SL shows zero distrust towards people who afkd on Artanis and didn't post shit at EoD and instead says I'm afraid to hammer people when I couldn't and instead kept pushing my preferred lynch.
This seems like the sort of push where he'd either say that me not hammering is scummy, or as displayed during the night he says I spitevote people, which means that if I hammered he'd probably say I'm scummy for hammering somebody I wasn't pushing. Really sketchy stuff especially since he was one of the people being afk most of the time and then instantly joining HF on LS and blowing into the same trumpet with him regarding people who didn't vote LS, skipping over the stuff they already said in my case.
Wave is most likely town, I'll go with Oats being town, and with Artanis being town cause the latter showed many preferences at EoD and pretty much wanted to vote the same people as me. I just wonder why he was so trusting of HF cause given how he played out D1 that's something I don't see as rational.
I actually forgot about the afk votes on Artanis. That alone is a good reason for Artanis being town I think.
Who were the afk votes on him again?
SL/Koshi/Palmar huh?
Hmm. Maybe I would lynch Koshi tomorrow. Still don't think SL is scum though Vivax based on D1 play.
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On April 19 2015 04:45 Vivax wrote:
SL's read on Artanis is quite shady, it stopped the moment he voted LS apparently. No post-flip reconsideration from SL on this part. He said he'd unvote him if he voted LS and now that LS flipped town, what is Artanis to SL?
Some of the way he went about things regarding Artanis does seem super sketchy, I will agree. Tonewise though he seems completely carefree and his reads and ideas change very fluidly. I dunno he's just not self-conscious of where his votes end up or what he says in game (his reaction towards the Palmar claim being contradictory for example).
I also agreed with his calling out of HF's terrible list here.
On April 18 2015 08:11 sicklucker wrote:
like that list hf just made. ww just wow... If you two are mafia im going to help you win to spite my town team
At the very least if you're not willing to budge I think there are many more/better targets to consider first.
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Well what do you think of what I said about him earlier, and the short conversation we had?
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I don't see how you can reach the scum conclusion with koshi and not with palmar/VA to be honest. I've seen palmar play exactly this way as scum before, and VA too more recently. Both are capable of simply not giving a shit, especially since none of them have been in any real danger yet;why would they have to try?
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I don't see the distinction when they're involved but whatever. Lynch pool of half the game tomorrow gogogo
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Is there a point to claiming that?
Probably not I guess. I would have shot VA.
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Actually wait. Can scum have 2 KP in this game?
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It can't be like our Les Mafia team.
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On April 19 2015 08:41 Onegu wrote:
I was RB.
WoS why did you thought dump so early into night 1?
Because I'd rather some discussion take place than none, and because there is absolutely no reason not to. Every single scum team I have ever been on decides on their night actions independently of what players' end of night reads are, especially a player like me who would never be night killed regardless.
Why have you done nothing so far despite being in the game for ages?
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Random funny thought: I wonder if VA isn't scum because they didn't pick off a blue, even if Artanis (or vivax) was the obvious NK. I think I know who the vig is as well. It's funny because scum picking off palmar would almost make sense if they believed his claim but nah.
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On April 19 2015 09:09 Onegu wrote:
Plus I have claimed town and that I was RB last night.
Well good I guess that means we win the game then! No reason for anyone to do anything guys, onegu claims town and was roleblocked.
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On April 19 2015 09:16 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
GB until you explain what exactly you meant by QT, many people (me included ) have very good reason to assume it's a mafia QT.
Also vivax what exactly is your prodding of oats supposed to accomplish? In any other thread it would look worse because it would seem like you're shitting up the thread for no reason, but there isn't really much else going on. Also why did you not think this was trolling?
I've explained this multiple times in thread Onegu.
And if you're going to call me scum come right out and do so. It didn't stop the rest of the derps in here.
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Well then who IS scum Onegu?
And as far as Artanis goes, I'm fine to sheep his read at this point. We'll see where it goes.
##vote: Koshi
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And are we looking into a replacement for loafery? 'Cause this is pretty ridiculous.
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On April 19 2015 09:28 Onegu wrote:
Like I think GB town, HF town, Vivax scum. I kinda agree with the loafery post but yah. LIke the post you like on Vivax is the one I dont like. Like you admit yourself that HF case was good. It was good.
"- I decided on my own that LS is not posting in the nervous mafia way he was in Guardians. BUT, he posts a lot of bs in my opinion. That doesn't make him mafia. I was successful in tone reading him and I will keep doing that."
Like this is the part I really dont like.
Not reading if you think that's what I said.
And as far as Vivax's read of LS, I find it to be spot on. I've gotten to know LS a little better in recent weeks and I see exactly where he is coming from.
Why do you think GB and HF are town? HF MAYBE I can understand despite his impeccable timing especially since I'm not likely to want to lynch him today either, but I'd like to know what you like about GB exactly.
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On April 19 2015 09:29 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 09:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well then who IS scum Onegu?
And as far as Artanis goes, I'm fine to sheep his read at this point. We'll see where it goes.
##vote: Koshi The only problem I have with this is he only says its a OMGUS read and that he is going to pursue his lynch day 2. Would be more agreeable to lynch his second scum read in loafery
He has other reasoning for it which comes in a little later which involves something about the method in which all the afk lurkers posted, not that I agree with that. Honestly, the afk vote on Artanis is pretty damning in and of itself when you consider that Koshi hasn't done dick all, and if you also want to throw in meta, go look at ANY Koshi towngame in existence. I personally don't need the meta to be convinced, and I trust Artanis as he is a better player than I am for the most part.
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Oh here's another question for you. HF agrees with me that GB is scum apparently, how does that fit with your read of them both being town and you wanting to sheep HF 100% today?
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On April 19 2015 09:44 Onegu wrote:rolled vivax
The guy you just told me was probably scum.
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On April 19 2015 09:50 Onegu wrote:
plus I redacted my read on him
Lol it really didn't take much convincing to make you redact about everything you came into thread with, did it?
Alright someone else can take over I'm done for now.
Onegu PROBABLY town for this but just...ugh.
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On April 19 2015 17:22 sicklucker wrote:
If im seer/mesandra my n1 is va green
I really wish you would do this.
Now as for 'people who pushed palmar' I follow your logic on GB and agree with it but the only other person who you exclaim 'looks worse' for pushing him should be vivax and yet you don't mention him. Wouldn't mind your thoughts.
Also who do you think the rest of the scum team is right now?
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