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On May 08 2015 00:55 Damdred wrote:
Depending on night actions could always go for a tripple lynch...
Honestly I don't get hit by kp then it's a double lynch most likely.
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Woo teacher discretionary day
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On May 08 2015 01:16 Inspector Javert wrote:
Woo teacher discretionary day
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##Vote indignant
I guess that's fine. Just gotta hope you actually can survive the night :/
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On May 07 2015 23:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:Okay guys I found something interesting about Stutters meta which he busses his teammates as Mafia in 3 of his games as scum and OMGUS scumread a person in 1 game and here the quote of his OMGUS read on Waveofshadow in Basterd Mini Mafia: On July 03 2013 00:18 Stutters695 wrote:Any red emphasis is mine Well WoS's most recent post has me thinking he might be scum. I'm literally WoS' only scum-read this game. He jumps on my wagon and sheeps Vivax and Rayn (with his only unique reasoning being that I didn't feel like translating his worthless posts in French because I was phone posting). He twice emphasizes his doubt of my wagon by virtue of four people already being on it. BUT WAIT On July 01 2013 03:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol speaking of Rayn grasping at straws, (somebody mentioned that earlier..?) I certainly love his case on me.
For a guy who talks a lot about towny perspectives, he doesn't even remotely consider the fact that me saying I have nothing to say can be from a towny perspective at all, cause, you know, I had nothing to say at the time. The contradiction he comes up with is not a contradiction at all in my eyes, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, right?
I also especially love how hard he pushes me as his main scumread.
I'm still not convinced that he is scum though and I want to look closer when I get the chance at his very recent scumgame as compared to something like CC.
Stutters I was thinking of unvoting you but your recent post gives me pause. You just look so afraid to take a stance on anything. C'est scummy.
Ladies and gents I'm out until later tonight; kid is at the grandparents for the night and you can sure as hell bet I'm not spending free time with the wife at the computer. He literally hasn't taken a stance on anything to this point and waffled on me because the wagon was too easy when thats literally the exact same thing he said my most recent post was scummy for. After that he does his summary thing which shows no real analysis just worthless summaries of what we already know. Wat is this waffly shit? So no read on me, he thinks Vivax looks bad but ACTUALLY I don't want to kill him, and the tone of that last sentence makes me laugh. 'Guys we should probably kill JarJar, if that's ok with you........' Maybe that's me reading into it a bit too much but there's a difference between 'We need to kill JJD right now.' and 'We really should kill JarJar......' Its those damn ellipses or something.
Yeah I'd defs lynch Lazer atm. Worth noting though is he attacks Lazer for saying Vivax is scummy but he still wanted to lynch JJD because Vivax is active and although his tunneling felt scummy it isn't a scumtell of itself. Maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but half his points against Lazer are for using ellipses? Seriously. Also note despite saying he'd lynch him at this point, he doesn't mention Lazer again in his filter. He follows that up with indecisive posts on Vivax and Rayn. Finally his players he wants to look into post: On July 02 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote:Players I want to look into/talk to when I get the chance: Marv - I find personal interaction with him to be the best way I get a read of him; I don't know what his scum game looks like so I'm still kind of wary about him. Fuba - His townplay was really strong in Roulette and I see bits and pieces of it here but his lack of activity muddled it up somewhat, and it's different than the lack of activity he exhibited in Roulette. In that game he came in strong and performed strong analysis when necessary....here there was much more fluff to his posting that rubs me the wrong way amidst the good posts. Stutters - Still think he's scum. His performance is a lot better than the half of the game I was there for but there's still stuff like this: On July 02 2013 03:31 Stutters695 wrote:
I explained why I disagreed with your case. Truth be told I haven't scrutinized his play too much since then but I don't think his "slip" if you want to call it that is indicative of anything, at least not on its own.
I'll read up on WoS/Lazer but is there a particular thing you don't like about my Fuba case? Never gives the aforementioned reads and his 'case' on Fuba is incredibly weak and only points out the glaringly obvious that many had pointed out earlier. The conclusion makes sense somewhat as I agree that Fuba's regular analysis was lacking here and all the conclusions he reaches amount to 'I'm not sure',' but it's not much of a case and I could see it as a bus. Then Vivax comes in and critiques the case a little and what happens? On July 02 2013 03:45 Stutters695 wrote:
I can understand that. Probably a little bias on my part but it just seems so scummy to me. I'll see how he responds and what he comes back with but he's definitely on my short list for d2. Immediately ready to drop it and push it to the backburner instead of coming back and trying to push it more strongly. This is not a towny who has a strong scumread, this is scum who was hoping he could do some weak analysis and then jump on sheep someone else. Marv - "I dont know so I'm going to look at him" very helpful Fuba - Says the same thing I and multiple others have said. Notice that, once again, there is no conclusion only observations. Me- Hey a definitive stance! On me again  . Here's why I think this is scummy. First, obviously how non-committal he is while also using that as his sole point against me. Second: Blatant misrepresentation. I still maintain my case on Fuba is pretty damn strong, he still is doing exactly what I laid out. That one is subjective though, whatever. " Never gives the aforementioned reads": This one bugs me. He completely ignores that I agreed with Vivax's case AND provided additional information that helped to secure his lynch pre-claim. Obviously it was wrong and forced a claim which sucks, but that is taking a stance. Notice how he also tries to pin promised reads on me when I said "I will read up on them later." Blatant misrepresentation to strengthen his case. The last part of his post is taken completely out of the context of the thread to make me look worse. I was on the chopping block at that point and would have been mislynched through towns passivity. Vivax had been expressing his disagreement with my Fuba case for hours and we had town reads on each other. I needed to work with someone to find a good lynch to both stop my mislynch and maximize the odds of hitting scum. but on the other hand after looking through his town games he post less as town than scum and had similar process in his reads to this game too esp his latest game when he tunneled someone so in conclusion: He TOTES TOWN Yamato on the other hand needs to step up and so far failed to deliver his promise. ##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato77 Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 08:21 LightningStrike wrote:On May 06 2015 08:19 Damdred wrote:
Actually I think we have to lynch Yamato and stutters No we don't lynch Stutters we lynch Yamato. Stutters has been known as a infrequent poster regardless of his alignment from my research into his meta. These ones, they look super weird, especially as all you're now using is posting activity to decide his alignment. The entire mafia team has been afk so obviously stutters inactivity could be explained by that but you skip right past it and say he's totes town for it instead. It's kind of a superficial read that looks like you wanted to blend into what people thought.
Hm... Maybe. I remember doing a similar thing as scum once where I tried so hard to justify a townread that I just looked at one of his past games and made an (actually incorrect) conclusion from his filter. Nobody bothered to check if what I was saying was correct and it somehow made me look better all the same.
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On May 07 2015 23:02 LightningStrike wrote:The sky.
Actually just Half the Sky.
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On May 08 2015 02:29 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 23:02 LightningStrike wrote:On May 07 2015 23:00 Holyflare wrote:
What's up! The sky. Actually just Half the Sky.
We both so cruel to the cohost lol.
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On May 08 2015 02:28 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 23:38 Holyflare wrote:On May 06 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:Okay guys I found something interesting about Stutters meta which he busses his teammates as Mafia in 3 of his games as scum and OMGUS scumread a person in 1 game and here the quote of his OMGUS read on Waveofshadow in Basterd Mini Mafia: On July 03 2013 00:18 Stutters695 wrote:Any red emphasis is mine Well WoS's most recent post has me thinking he might be scum. I'm literally WoS' only scum-read this game. He jumps on my wagon and sheeps Vivax and Rayn (with his only unique reasoning being that I didn't feel like translating his worthless posts in French because I was phone posting). He twice emphasizes his doubt of my wagon by virtue of four people already being on it. BUT WAIT On July 01 2013 03:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol speaking of Rayn grasping at straws, (somebody mentioned that earlier..?) I certainly love his case on me.
For a guy who talks a lot about towny perspectives, he doesn't even remotely consider the fact that me saying I have nothing to say can be from a towny perspective at all, cause, you know, I had nothing to say at the time. The contradiction he comes up with is not a contradiction at all in my eyes, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, right?
I also especially love how hard he pushes me as his main scumread.
I'm still not convinced that he is scum though and I want to look closer when I get the chance at his very recent scumgame as compared to something like CC.
Stutters I was thinking of unvoting you but your recent post gives me pause. You just look so afraid to take a stance on anything. C'est scummy.
Ladies and gents I'm out until later tonight; kid is at the grandparents for the night and you can sure as hell bet I'm not spending free time with the wife at the computer. He literally hasn't taken a stance on anything to this point and waffled on me because the wagon was too easy when thats literally the exact same thing he said my most recent post was scummy for. After that he does his summary thing which shows no real analysis just worthless summaries of what we already know. Wat is this waffly shit? So no read on me, he thinks Vivax looks bad but ACTUALLY I don't want to kill him, and the tone of that last sentence makes me laugh. 'Guys we should probably kill JarJar, if that's ok with you........' Maybe that's me reading into it a bit too much but there's a difference between 'We need to kill JJD right now.' and 'We really should kill JarJar......' Its those damn ellipses or something.
Yeah I'd defs lynch Lazer atm. Worth noting though is he attacks Lazer for saying Vivax is scummy but he still wanted to lynch JJD because Vivax is active and although his tunneling felt scummy it isn't a scumtell of itself. Maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but half his points against Lazer are for using ellipses? Seriously. Also note despite saying he'd lynch him at this point, he doesn't mention Lazer again in his filter. He follows that up with indecisive posts on Vivax and Rayn. Finally his players he wants to look into post: On July 02 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote:Players I want to look into/talk to when I get the chance: Marv - I find personal interaction with him to be the best way I get a read of him; I don't know what his scum game looks like so I'm still kind of wary about him. Fuba - His townplay was really strong in Roulette and I see bits and pieces of it here but his lack of activity muddled it up somewhat, and it's different than the lack of activity he exhibited in Roulette. In that game he came in strong and performed strong analysis when necessary....here there was much more fluff to his posting that rubs me the wrong way amidst the good posts. Stutters - Still think he's scum. His performance is a lot better than the half of the game I was there for but there's still stuff like this: On July 02 2013 03:31 Stutters695 wrote:
I explained why I disagreed with your case. Truth be told I haven't scrutinized his play too much since then but I don't think his "slip" if you want to call it that is indicative of anything, at least not on its own.
I'll read up on WoS/Lazer but is there a particular thing you don't like about my Fuba case? Never gives the aforementioned reads and his 'case' on Fuba is incredibly weak and only points out the glaringly obvious that many had pointed out earlier. The conclusion makes sense somewhat as I agree that Fuba's regular analysis was lacking here and all the conclusions he reaches amount to 'I'm not sure',' but it's not much of a case and I could see it as a bus. Then Vivax comes in and critiques the case a little and what happens? On July 02 2013 03:45 Stutters695 wrote:
I can understand that. Probably a little bias on my part but it just seems so scummy to me. I'll see how he responds and what he comes back with but he's definitely on my short list for d2. Immediately ready to drop it and push it to the backburner instead of coming back and trying to push it more strongly. This is not a towny who has a strong scumread, this is scum who was hoping he could do some weak analysis and then jump on sheep someone else. Marv - "I dont know so I'm going to look at him" very helpful Fuba - Says the same thing I and multiple others have said. Notice that, once again, there is no conclusion only observations. Me- Hey a definitive stance! On me again . Here's why I think this is scummy. First, obviously how non-committal he is while also using that as his sole point against me. Second: Blatant misrepresentation. I still maintain my case on Fuba is pretty damn strong, he still is doing exactly what I laid out. That one is subjective though, whatever. " Never gives the aforementioned reads": This one bugs me. He completely ignores that I agreed with Vivax's case AND provided additional information that helped to secure his lynch pre-claim. Obviously it was wrong and forced a claim which sucks, but that is taking a stance. Notice how he also tries to pin promised reads on me when I said "I will read up on them later." Blatant misrepresentation to strengthen his case. The last part of his post is taken completely out of the context of the thread to make me look worse. I was on the chopping block at that point and would have been mislynched through towns passivity. Vivax had been expressing his disagreement with my Fuba case for hours and we had town reads on each other. I needed to work with someone to find a good lynch to both stop my mislynch and maximize the odds of hitting scum. but on the other hand after looking through his town games he post less as town than scum and had similar process in his reads to this game too esp his latest game when he tunneled someone so in conclusion: He TOTES TOWN Yamato on the other hand needs to step up and so far failed to deliver his promise. ##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato77 On May 06 2015 08:21 LightningStrike wrote:On May 06 2015 08:19 Damdred wrote:
Actually I think we have to lynch Yamato and stutters No we don't lynch Stutters we lynch Yamato. Stutters has been known as a infrequent poster regardless of his alignment from my research into his meta. These ones, they look super weird, especially as all you're now using is posting activity to decide his alignment. The entire mafia team has been afk so obviously stutters inactivity could be explained by that but you skip right past it and say he's totes town for it instead. It's kind of a superficial read that looks like you wanted to blend into what people thought. Hm... Maybe. I remember doing a similar thing as scum once where I tried so hard to justify a townread that I just looked at one of his past games and made an (actually incorrect) conclusion from his filter. Nobody bothered to check if what I was saying was correct and it somehow made me look better all the same.
I told Holyflare he can check it himself if he doesn't believe me.
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On May 08 2015 02:20 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote indignant
I guess that's fine. Just gotta hope you actually can survive the night :/
Would I lie to you? 
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On May 08 2015 02:35 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 02:28 Xatalos wrote:On May 07 2015 23:38 Holyflare wrote:On May 06 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:Okay guys I found something interesting about Stutters meta which he busses his teammates as Mafia in 3 of his games as scum and OMGUS scumread a person in 1 game and here the quote of his OMGUS read on Waveofshadow in Basterd Mini Mafia: On July 03 2013 00:18 Stutters695 wrote:Any red emphasis is mine Well WoS's most recent post has me thinking he might be scum. I'm literally WoS' only scum-read this game. He jumps on my wagon and sheeps Vivax and Rayn (with his only unique reasoning being that I didn't feel like translating his worthless posts in French because I was phone posting). He twice emphasizes his doubt of my wagon by virtue of four people already being on it. BUT WAIT On July 01 2013 03:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol speaking of Rayn grasping at straws, (somebody mentioned that earlier..?) I certainly love his case on me.
For a guy who talks a lot about towny perspectives, he doesn't even remotely consider the fact that me saying I have nothing to say can be from a towny perspective at all, cause, you know, I had nothing to say at the time. The contradiction he comes up with is not a contradiction at all in my eyes, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, right?
I also especially love how hard he pushes me as his main scumread.
I'm still not convinced that he is scum though and I want to look closer when I get the chance at his very recent scumgame as compared to something like CC.
Stutters I was thinking of unvoting you but your recent post gives me pause. You just look so afraid to take a stance on anything. C'est scummy.
Ladies and gents I'm out until later tonight; kid is at the grandparents for the night and you can sure as hell bet I'm not spending free time with the wife at the computer. He literally hasn't taken a stance on anything to this point and waffled on me because the wagon was too easy when thats literally the exact same thing he said my most recent post was scummy for. After that he does his summary thing which shows no real analysis just worthless summaries of what we already know. Wat is this waffly shit? So no read on me, he thinks Vivax looks bad but ACTUALLY I don't want to kill him, and the tone of that last sentence makes me laugh. 'Guys we should probably kill JarJar, if that's ok with you........' Maybe that's me reading into it a bit too much but there's a difference between 'We need to kill JJD right now.' and 'We really should kill JarJar......' Its those damn ellipses or something.
Yeah I'd defs lynch Lazer atm. Worth noting though is he attacks Lazer for saying Vivax is scummy but he still wanted to lynch JJD because Vivax is active and although his tunneling felt scummy it isn't a scumtell of itself. Maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but half his points against Lazer are for using ellipses? Seriously. Also note despite saying he'd lynch him at this point, he doesn't mention Lazer again in his filter. He follows that up with indecisive posts on Vivax and Rayn. Finally his players he wants to look into post: On July 02 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote:Players I want to look into/talk to when I get the chance: Marv - I find personal interaction with him to be the best way I get a read of him; I don't know what his scum game looks like so I'm still kind of wary about him. Fuba - His townplay was really strong in Roulette and I see bits and pieces of it here but his lack of activity muddled it up somewhat, and it's different than the lack of activity he exhibited in Roulette. In that game he came in strong and performed strong analysis when necessary....here there was much more fluff to his posting that rubs me the wrong way amidst the good posts. Stutters - Still think he's scum. His performance is a lot better than the half of the game I was there for but there's still stuff like this: On July 02 2013 03:31 Stutters695 wrote:
I explained why I disagreed with your case. Truth be told I haven't scrutinized his play too much since then but I don't think his "slip" if you want to call it that is indicative of anything, at least not on its own.
I'll read up on WoS/Lazer but is there a particular thing you don't like about my Fuba case? Never gives the aforementioned reads and his 'case' on Fuba is incredibly weak and only points out the glaringly obvious that many had pointed out earlier. The conclusion makes sense somewhat as I agree that Fuba's regular analysis was lacking here and all the conclusions he reaches amount to 'I'm not sure',' but it's not much of a case and I could see it as a bus. Then Vivax comes in and critiques the case a little and what happens? On July 02 2013 03:45 Stutters695 wrote:
I can understand that. Probably a little bias on my part but it just seems so scummy to me. I'll see how he responds and what he comes back with but he's definitely on my short list for d2. Immediately ready to drop it and push it to the backburner instead of coming back and trying to push it more strongly. This is not a towny who has a strong scumread, this is scum who was hoping he could do some weak analysis and then jump on sheep someone else. Marv - "I dont know so I'm going to look at him" very helpful Fuba - Says the same thing I and multiple others have said. Notice that, once again, there is no conclusion only observations. Me- Hey a definitive stance! On me again . Here's why I think this is scummy. First, obviously how non-committal he is while also using that as his sole point against me. Second: Blatant misrepresentation. I still maintain my case on Fuba is pretty damn strong, he still is doing exactly what I laid out. That one is subjective though, whatever. " Never gives the aforementioned reads": This one bugs me. He completely ignores that I agreed with Vivax's case AND provided additional information that helped to secure his lynch pre-claim. Obviously it was wrong and forced a claim which sucks, but that is taking a stance. Notice how he also tries to pin promised reads on me when I said "I will read up on them later." Blatant misrepresentation to strengthen his case. The last part of his post is taken completely out of the context of the thread to make me look worse. I was on the chopping block at that point and would have been mislynched through towns passivity. Vivax had been expressing his disagreement with my Fuba case for hours and we had town reads on each other. I needed to work with someone to find a good lynch to both stop my mislynch and maximize the odds of hitting scum. but on the other hand after looking through his town games he post less as town than scum and had similar process in his reads to this game too esp his latest game when he tunneled someone so in conclusion: He TOTES TOWN Yamato on the other hand needs to step up and so far failed to deliver his promise. ##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato77 On May 06 2015 08:21 LightningStrike wrote:On May 06 2015 08:19 Damdred wrote:
Actually I think we have to lynch Yamato and stutters No we don't lynch Stutters we lynch Yamato. Stutters has been known as a infrequent poster regardless of his alignment from my research into his meta. These ones, they look super weird, especially as all you're now using is posting activity to decide his alignment. The entire mafia team has been afk so obviously stutters inactivity could be explained by that but you skip right past it and say he's totes town for it instead. It's kind of a superficial read that looks like you wanted to blend into what people thought. Hm... Maybe. I remember doing a similar thing as scum once where I tried so hard to justify a townread that I just looked at one of his past games and made an (actually incorrect) conclusion from his filter. Nobody bothered to check if what I was saying was correct and it somehow made me look better all the same. I told Holyflare he can check it himself if he doesn't believe me.
This has nothing to do with whether it's wrong or right? Well, specifically it would be to do with whether it was right. It's that I see no difference between an entire mafia team not playing and him thus being low activity and comparing it to another game where he was low activity and making an uninformed 100% town conclusion from it.
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On May 08 2015 02:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 02:35 LightningStrike wrote:On May 08 2015 02:28 Xatalos wrote:On May 07 2015 23:38 Holyflare wrote:On May 06 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:Okay guys I found something interesting about Stutters meta which he busses his teammates as Mafia in 3 of his games as scum and OMGUS scumread a person in 1 game and here the quote of his OMGUS read on Waveofshadow in Basterd Mini Mafia: On July 03 2013 00:18 Stutters695 wrote:Any red emphasis is mine Well WoS's most recent post has me thinking he might be scum. I'm literally WoS' only scum-read this game. He jumps on my wagon and sheeps Vivax and Rayn (with his only unique reasoning being that I didn't feel like translating his worthless posts in French because I was phone posting). He twice emphasizes his doubt of my wagon by virtue of four people already being on it. BUT WAIT On July 01 2013 03:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol speaking of Rayn grasping at straws, (somebody mentioned that earlier..?) I certainly love his case on me.
For a guy who talks a lot about towny perspectives, he doesn't even remotely consider the fact that me saying I have nothing to say can be from a towny perspective at all, cause, you know, I had nothing to say at the time. The contradiction he comes up with is not a contradiction at all in my eyes, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, right?
I also especially love how hard he pushes me as his main scumread.
I'm still not convinced that he is scum though and I want to look closer when I get the chance at his very recent scumgame as compared to something like CC.
Stutters I was thinking of unvoting you but your recent post gives me pause. You just look so afraid to take a stance on anything. C'est scummy.
Ladies and gents I'm out until later tonight; kid is at the grandparents for the night and you can sure as hell bet I'm not spending free time with the wife at the computer. He literally hasn't taken a stance on anything to this point and waffled on me because the wagon was too easy when thats literally the exact same thing he said my most recent post was scummy for. After that he does his summary thing which shows no real analysis just worthless summaries of what we already know. Wat is this waffly shit? So no read on me, he thinks Vivax looks bad but ACTUALLY I don't want to kill him, and the tone of that last sentence makes me laugh. 'Guys we should probably kill JarJar, if that's ok with you........' Maybe that's me reading into it a bit too much but there's a difference between 'We need to kill JJD right now.' and 'We really should kill JarJar......' Its those damn ellipses or something.
Yeah I'd defs lynch Lazer atm. Worth noting though is he attacks Lazer for saying Vivax is scummy but he still wanted to lynch JJD because Vivax is active and although his tunneling felt scummy it isn't a scumtell of itself. Maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but half his points against Lazer are for using ellipses? Seriously. Also note despite saying he'd lynch him at this point, he doesn't mention Lazer again in his filter. He follows that up with indecisive posts on Vivax and Rayn. Finally his players he wants to look into post: On July 02 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote:Players I want to look into/talk to when I get the chance: Marv - I find personal interaction with him to be the best way I get a read of him; I don't know what his scum game looks like so I'm still kind of wary about him. Fuba - His townplay was really strong in Roulette and I see bits and pieces of it here but his lack of activity muddled it up somewhat, and it's different than the lack of activity he exhibited in Roulette. In that game he came in strong and performed strong analysis when necessary....here there was much more fluff to his posting that rubs me the wrong way amidst the good posts. Stutters - Still think he's scum. His performance is a lot better than the half of the game I was there for but there's still stuff like this: On July 02 2013 03:31 Stutters695 wrote:
I explained why I disagreed with your case. Truth be told I haven't scrutinized his play too much since then but I don't think his "slip" if you want to call it that is indicative of anything, at least not on its own.
I'll read up on WoS/Lazer but is there a particular thing you don't like about my Fuba case? Never gives the aforementioned reads and his 'case' on Fuba is incredibly weak and only points out the glaringly obvious that many had pointed out earlier. The conclusion makes sense somewhat as I agree that Fuba's regular analysis was lacking here and all the conclusions he reaches amount to 'I'm not sure',' but it's not much of a case and I could see it as a bus. Then Vivax comes in and critiques the case a little and what happens? On July 02 2013 03:45 Stutters695 wrote:
I can understand that. Probably a little bias on my part but it just seems so scummy to me. I'll see how he responds and what he comes back with but he's definitely on my short list for d2. Immediately ready to drop it and push it to the backburner instead of coming back and trying to push it more strongly. This is not a towny who has a strong scumread, this is scum who was hoping he could do some weak analysis and then jump on sheep someone else. Marv - "I dont know so I'm going to look at him" very helpful Fuba - Says the same thing I and multiple others have said. Notice that, once again, there is no conclusion only observations. Me- Hey a definitive stance! On me again . Here's why I think this is scummy. First, obviously how non-committal he is while also using that as his sole point against me. Second: Blatant misrepresentation. I still maintain my case on Fuba is pretty damn strong, he still is doing exactly what I laid out. That one is subjective though, whatever. " Never gives the aforementioned reads": This one bugs me. He completely ignores that I agreed with Vivax's case AND provided additional information that helped to secure his lynch pre-claim. Obviously it was wrong and forced a claim which sucks, but that is taking a stance. Notice how he also tries to pin promised reads on me when I said "I will read up on them later." Blatant misrepresentation to strengthen his case. The last part of his post is taken completely out of the context of the thread to make me look worse. I was on the chopping block at that point and would have been mislynched through towns passivity. Vivax had been expressing his disagreement with my Fuba case for hours and we had town reads on each other. I needed to work with someone to find a good lynch to both stop my mislynch and maximize the odds of hitting scum. but on the other hand after looking through his town games he post less as town than scum and had similar process in his reads to this game too esp his latest game when he tunneled someone so in conclusion: He TOTES TOWN Yamato on the other hand needs to step up and so far failed to deliver his promise. ##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato77 On May 06 2015 08:21 LightningStrike wrote:On May 06 2015 08:19 Damdred wrote:
Actually I think we have to lynch Yamato and stutters No we don't lynch Stutters we lynch Yamato. Stutters has been known as a infrequent poster regardless of his alignment from my research into his meta. These ones, they look super weird, especially as all you're now using is posting activity to decide his alignment. The entire mafia team has been afk so obviously stutters inactivity could be explained by that but you skip right past it and say he's totes town for it instead. It's kind of a superficial read that looks like you wanted to blend into what people thought. Hm... Maybe. I remember doing a similar thing as scum once where I tried so hard to justify a townread that I just looked at one of his past games and made an (actually incorrect) conclusion from his filter. Nobody bothered to check if what I was saying was correct and it somehow made me look better all the same. I told Holyflare he can check it himself if he doesn't believe me. This has nothing to do with whether it's wrong or right? Well, specifically it would be to do with whether it was right. It's that I see no difference between an entire mafia team not playing and him thus being low activity and comparing it to another game where he was low activity and making an uninformed 100% town conclusion from it.
He did have a inactive Day 1 got lynched for it I know that. If you compared his town games to scum games he generally post 1 more page as scum than town so ya it kinda worrying but I have no doubts he's town. If he's scum it not because of his inactivity it would be for content which I found very similar to his town games from my own research.
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On May 08 2015 03:02 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 02:54 Holyflare wrote:On May 08 2015 02:35 LightningStrike wrote:On May 08 2015 02:28 Xatalos wrote:On May 07 2015 23:38 Holyflare wrote:On May 06 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:Okay guys I found something interesting about Stutters meta which he busses his teammates as Mafia in 3 of his games as scum and OMGUS scumread a person in 1 game and here the quote of his OMGUS read on Waveofshadow in Basterd Mini Mafia: On July 03 2013 00:18 Stutters695 wrote:Any red emphasis is mine Well WoS's most recent post has me thinking he might be scum. I'm literally WoS' only scum-read this game. He jumps on my wagon and sheeps Vivax and Rayn (with his only unique reasoning being that I didn't feel like translating his worthless posts in French because I was phone posting). He twice emphasizes his doubt of my wagon by virtue of four people already being on it. BUT WAIT On July 01 2013 03:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol speaking of Rayn grasping at straws, (somebody mentioned that earlier..?) I certainly love his case on me.
For a guy who talks a lot about towny perspectives, he doesn't even remotely consider the fact that me saying I have nothing to say can be from a towny perspective at all, cause, you know, I had nothing to say at the time. The contradiction he comes up with is not a contradiction at all in my eyes, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, right?
I also especially love how hard he pushes me as his main scumread.
I'm still not convinced that he is scum though and I want to look closer when I get the chance at his very recent scumgame as compared to something like CC.
Stutters I was thinking of unvoting you but your recent post gives me pause. You just look so afraid to take a stance on anything. C'est scummy.
Ladies and gents I'm out until later tonight; kid is at the grandparents for the night and you can sure as hell bet I'm not spending free time with the wife at the computer. He literally hasn't taken a stance on anything to this point and waffled on me because the wagon was too easy when thats literally the exact same thing he said my most recent post was scummy for. After that he does his summary thing which shows no real analysis just worthless summaries of what we already know. Wat is this waffly shit? So no read on me, he thinks Vivax looks bad but ACTUALLY I don't want to kill him, and the tone of that last sentence makes me laugh. 'Guys we should probably kill JarJar, if that's ok with you........' Maybe that's me reading into it a bit too much but there's a difference between 'We need to kill JJD right now.' and 'We really should kill JarJar......' Its those damn ellipses or something.
Yeah I'd defs lynch Lazer atm. Worth noting though is he attacks Lazer for saying Vivax is scummy but he still wanted to lynch JJD because Vivax is active and although his tunneling felt scummy it isn't a scumtell of itself. Maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but half his points against Lazer are for using ellipses? Seriously. Also note despite saying he'd lynch him at this point, he doesn't mention Lazer again in his filter. He follows that up with indecisive posts on Vivax and Rayn. Finally his players he wants to look into post: On July 02 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote:Players I want to look into/talk to when I get the chance: Marv - I find personal interaction with him to be the best way I get a read of him; I don't know what his scum game looks like so I'm still kind of wary about him. Fuba - His townplay was really strong in Roulette and I see bits and pieces of it here but his lack of activity muddled it up somewhat, and it's different than the lack of activity he exhibited in Roulette. In that game he came in strong and performed strong analysis when necessary....here there was much more fluff to his posting that rubs me the wrong way amidst the good posts. Stutters - Still think he's scum. His performance is a lot better than the half of the game I was there for but there's still stuff like this: On July 02 2013 03:31 Stutters695 wrote:
I explained why I disagreed with your case. Truth be told I haven't scrutinized his play too much since then but I don't think his "slip" if you want to call it that is indicative of anything, at least not on its own.
I'll read up on WoS/Lazer but is there a particular thing you don't like about my Fuba case? Never gives the aforementioned reads and his 'case' on Fuba is incredibly weak and only points out the glaringly obvious that many had pointed out earlier. The conclusion makes sense somewhat as I agree that Fuba's regular analysis was lacking here and all the conclusions he reaches amount to 'I'm not sure',' but it's not much of a case and I could see it as a bus. Then Vivax comes in and critiques the case a little and what happens? On July 02 2013 03:45 Stutters695 wrote:
I can understand that. Probably a little bias on my part but it just seems so scummy to me. I'll see how he responds and what he comes back with but he's definitely on my short list for d2. Immediately ready to drop it and push it to the backburner instead of coming back and trying to push it more strongly. This is not a towny who has a strong scumread, this is scum who was hoping he could do some weak analysis and then jump on sheep someone else. Marv - "I dont know so I'm going to look at him" very helpful Fuba - Says the same thing I and multiple others have said. Notice that, once again, there is no conclusion only observations. Me- Hey a definitive stance! On me again . Here's why I think this is scummy. First, obviously how non-committal he is while also using that as his sole point against me. Second: Blatant misrepresentation. I still maintain my case on Fuba is pretty damn strong, he still is doing exactly what I laid out. That one is subjective though, whatever. " Never gives the aforementioned reads": This one bugs me. He completely ignores that I agreed with Vivax's case AND provided additional information that helped to secure his lynch pre-claim. Obviously it was wrong and forced a claim which sucks, but that is taking a stance. Notice how he also tries to pin promised reads on me when I said "I will read up on them later." Blatant misrepresentation to strengthen his case. The last part of his post is taken completely out of the context of the thread to make me look worse. I was on the chopping block at that point and would have been mislynched through towns passivity. Vivax had been expressing his disagreement with my Fuba case for hours and we had town reads on each other. I needed to work with someone to find a good lynch to both stop my mislynch and maximize the odds of hitting scum. but on the other hand after looking through his town games he post less as town than scum and had similar process in his reads to this game too esp his latest game when he tunneled someone so in conclusion: He TOTES TOWN Yamato on the other hand needs to step up and so far failed to deliver his promise. ##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato77 On May 06 2015 08:21 LightningStrike wrote:On May 06 2015 08:19 Damdred wrote:
Actually I think we have to lynch Yamato and stutters No we don't lynch Stutters we lynch Yamato. Stutters has been known as a infrequent poster regardless of his alignment from my research into his meta. These ones, they look super weird, especially as all you're now using is posting activity to decide his alignment. The entire mafia team has been afk so obviously stutters inactivity could be explained by that but you skip right past it and say he's totes town for it instead. It's kind of a superficial read that looks like you wanted to blend into what people thought. Hm... Maybe. I remember doing a similar thing as scum once where I tried so hard to justify a townread that I just looked at one of his past games and made an (actually incorrect) conclusion from his filter. Nobody bothered to check if what I was saying was correct and it somehow made me look better all the same. I told Holyflare he can check it himself if he doesn't believe me. This has nothing to do with whether it's wrong or right? Well, specifically it would be to do with whether it was right. It's that I see no difference between an entire mafia team not playing and him thus being low activity and comparing it to another game where he was low activity and making an uninformed 100% town conclusion from it. He did have a inactive Day 1 got lynched for it I know that. If you compared his town games to scum games he generally post 1 more page as scum than town so ya it kinda worrying but I have no doubts he's town. If he's scum it not because of his inactivity it would be for content which I found very similar to his town games from my own research.
can you not see how this is a ridiculously redundant sentence?
explain to me how the content differs, in depth please
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Sorry guys, finals week made this a bitch. Didn't expect it to be this active, it's hard as fuck just keeping up. If you guys want to lynch me I'd totally understand.
LS's meta read is correct, however that's not a genuine flip. Send like he just skimmed it and decided it's cool.
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Night 4 Vote Count
indignant (6): Breshke, Inspector Javert, Damdred, Holyflare, Chezinu, Xatalos
Holyflare (1): indignant
Not voting (4): ObiWanShinobi, Stutters695, sicklucker, LightningStrike
Given the current vote count, indignant is most likely to be choosing the Fight.
The voting thread is located here.
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On May 08 2015 02:48 indignant wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 02:20 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote indignant
I guess that's fine. Just gotta hope you actually can survive the night :/ Would I lie to you?
It's a game of lying after all 
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Would be nice to hear how the content is different yeah.
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On May 08 2015 03:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 03:02 LightningStrike wrote:On May 08 2015 02:54 Holyflare wrote:On May 08 2015 02:35 LightningStrike wrote:On May 08 2015 02:28 Xatalos wrote:On May 07 2015 23:38 Holyflare wrote:On May 06 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:Okay guys I found something interesting about Stutters meta which he busses his teammates as Mafia in 3 of his games as scum and OMGUS scumread a person in 1 game and here the quote of his OMGUS read on Waveofshadow in Basterd Mini Mafia: On July 03 2013 00:18 Stutters695 wrote:Any red emphasis is mine Well WoS's most recent post has me thinking he might be scum. I'm literally WoS' only scum-read this game. He jumps on my wagon and sheeps Vivax and Rayn (with his only unique reasoning being that I didn't feel like translating his worthless posts in French because I was phone posting). He twice emphasizes his doubt of my wagon by virtue of four people already being on it. BUT WAIT On July 01 2013 03:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol speaking of Rayn grasping at straws, (somebody mentioned that earlier..?) I certainly love his case on me.
For a guy who talks a lot about towny perspectives, he doesn't even remotely consider the fact that me saying I have nothing to say can be from a towny perspective at all, cause, you know, I had nothing to say at the time. The contradiction he comes up with is not a contradiction at all in my eyes, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, right?
I also especially love how hard he pushes me as his main scumread.
I'm still not convinced that he is scum though and I want to look closer when I get the chance at his very recent scumgame as compared to something like CC.
Stutters I was thinking of unvoting you but your recent post gives me pause. You just look so afraid to take a stance on anything. C'est scummy.
Ladies and gents I'm out until later tonight; kid is at the grandparents for the night and you can sure as hell bet I'm not spending free time with the wife at the computer. He literally hasn't taken a stance on anything to this point and waffled on me because the wagon was too easy when thats literally the exact same thing he said my most recent post was scummy for. After that he does his summary thing which shows no real analysis just worthless summaries of what we already know. Wat is this waffly shit? So no read on me, he thinks Vivax looks bad but ACTUALLY I don't want to kill him, and the tone of that last sentence makes me laugh. 'Guys we should probably kill JarJar, if that's ok with you........' Maybe that's me reading into it a bit too much but there's a difference between 'We need to kill JJD right now.' and 'We really should kill JarJar......' Its those damn ellipses or something.
Yeah I'd defs lynch Lazer atm. Worth noting though is he attacks Lazer for saying Vivax is scummy but he still wanted to lynch JJD because Vivax is active and although his tunneling felt scummy it isn't a scumtell of itself. Maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but half his points against Lazer are for using ellipses? Seriously. Also note despite saying he'd lynch him at this point, he doesn't mention Lazer again in his filter. He follows that up with indecisive posts on Vivax and Rayn. Finally his players he wants to look into post: On July 02 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote:Players I want to look into/talk to when I get the chance: Marv - I find personal interaction with him to be the best way I get a read of him; I don't know what his scum game looks like so I'm still kind of wary about him. Fuba - His townplay was really strong in Roulette and I see bits and pieces of it here but his lack of activity muddled it up somewhat, and it's different than the lack of activity he exhibited in Roulette. In that game he came in strong and performed strong analysis when necessary....here there was much more fluff to his posting that rubs me the wrong way amidst the good posts. Stutters - Still think he's scum. His performance is a lot better than the half of the game I was there for but there's still stuff like this: On July 02 2013 03:31 Stutters695 wrote:
I explained why I disagreed with your case. Truth be told I haven't scrutinized his play too much since then but I don't think his "slip" if you want to call it that is indicative of anything, at least not on its own.
I'll read up on WoS/Lazer but is there a particular thing you don't like about my Fuba case? Never gives the aforementioned reads and his 'case' on Fuba is incredibly weak and only points out the glaringly obvious that many had pointed out earlier. The conclusion makes sense somewhat as I agree that Fuba's regular analysis was lacking here and all the conclusions he reaches amount to 'I'm not sure',' but it's not much of a case and I could see it as a bus. Then Vivax comes in and critiques the case a little and what happens? On July 02 2013 03:45 Stutters695 wrote:
I can understand that. Probably a little bias on my part but it just seems so scummy to me. I'll see how he responds and what he comes back with but he's definitely on my short list for d2. Immediately ready to drop it and push it to the backburner instead of coming back and trying to push it more strongly. This is not a towny who has a strong scumread, this is scum who was hoping he could do some weak analysis and then jump on sheep someone else. Marv - "I dont know so I'm going to look at him" very helpful Fuba - Says the same thing I and multiple others have said. Notice that, once again, there is no conclusion only observations. Me- Hey a definitive stance! On me again . Here's why I think this is scummy. First, obviously how non-committal he is while also using that as his sole point against me. Second: Blatant misrepresentation. I still maintain my case on Fuba is pretty damn strong, he still is doing exactly what I laid out. That one is subjective though, whatever. " Never gives the aforementioned reads": This one bugs me. He completely ignores that I agreed with Vivax's case AND provided additional information that helped to secure his lynch pre-claim. Obviously it was wrong and forced a claim which sucks, but that is taking a stance. Notice how he also tries to pin promised reads on me when I said "I will read up on them later." Blatant misrepresentation to strengthen his case. The last part of his post is taken completely out of the context of the thread to make me look worse. I was on the chopping block at that point and would have been mislynched through towns passivity. Vivax had been expressing his disagreement with my Fuba case for hours and we had town reads on each other. I needed to work with someone to find a good lynch to both stop my mislynch and maximize the odds of hitting scum. but on the other hand after looking through his town games he post less as town than scum and had similar process in his reads to this game too esp his latest game when he tunneled someone so in conclusion: He TOTES TOWN Yamato on the other hand needs to step up and so far failed to deliver his promise. ##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato77 On May 06 2015 08:21 LightningStrike wrote:On May 06 2015 08:19 Damdred wrote:
Actually I think we have to lynch Yamato and stutters No we don't lynch Stutters we lynch Yamato. Stutters has been known as a infrequent poster regardless of his alignment from my research into his meta. These ones, they look super weird, especially as all you're now using is posting activity to decide his alignment. The entire mafia team has been afk so obviously stutters inactivity could be explained by that but you skip right past it and say he's totes town for it instead. It's kind of a superficial read that looks like you wanted to blend into what people thought. Hm... Maybe. I remember doing a similar thing as scum once where I tried so hard to justify a townread that I just looked at one of his past games and made an (actually incorrect) conclusion from his filter. Nobody bothered to check if what I was saying was correct and it somehow made me look better all the same. I told Holyflare he can check it himself if he doesn't believe me. This has nothing to do with whether it's wrong or right? Well, specifically it would be to do with whether it was right. It's that I see no difference between an entire mafia team not playing and him thus being low activity and comparing it to another game where he was low activity and making an uninformed 100% town conclusion from it. He did have a inactive Day 1 got lynched for it I know that. If you compared his town games to scum games he generally post 1 more page as scum than town so ya it kinda worrying but I have no doubts he's town. If he's scum it not because of his inactivity it would be for content which I found very similar to his town games from my own research. can you not see how this is a ridiculously redundant sentence? explain to me how the content differs, in depth please
As scum he actually busses his teammates extremely hard and his cases are terrible on town players being scum. As town he analyze much better on people's alignments and defends himself harder as town than scum.
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On May 08 2015 03:16 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 03:05 Holyflare wrote:On May 08 2015 03:02 LightningStrike wrote:On May 08 2015 02:54 Holyflare wrote:On May 08 2015 02:35 LightningStrike wrote:On May 08 2015 02:28 Xatalos wrote:On May 07 2015 23:38 Holyflare wrote:On May 06 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:Okay guys I found something interesting about Stutters meta which he busses his teammates as Mafia in 3 of his games as scum and OMGUS scumread a person in 1 game and here the quote of his OMGUS read on Waveofshadow in Basterd Mini Mafia: On July 03 2013 00:18 Stutters695 wrote:Any red emphasis is mine Well WoS's most recent post has me thinking he might be scum. I'm literally WoS' only scum-read this game. He jumps on my wagon and sheeps Vivax and Rayn (with his only unique reasoning being that I didn't feel like translating his worthless posts in French because I was phone posting). He twice emphasizes his doubt of my wagon by virtue of four people already being on it. BUT WAIT On July 01 2013 03:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol speaking of Rayn grasping at straws, (somebody mentioned that earlier..?) I certainly love his case on me.
For a guy who talks a lot about towny perspectives, he doesn't even remotely consider the fact that me saying I have nothing to say can be from a towny perspective at all, cause, you know, I had nothing to say at the time. The contradiction he comes up with is not a contradiction at all in my eyes, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, right?
I also especially love how hard he pushes me as his main scumread.
I'm still not convinced that he is scum though and I want to look closer when I get the chance at his very recent scumgame as compared to something like CC.
Stutters I was thinking of unvoting you but your recent post gives me pause. You just look so afraid to take a stance on anything. C'est scummy.
Ladies and gents I'm out until later tonight; kid is at the grandparents for the night and you can sure as hell bet I'm not spending free time with the wife at the computer. He literally hasn't taken a stance on anything to this point and waffled on me because the wagon was too easy when thats literally the exact same thing he said my most recent post was scummy for. After that he does his summary thing which shows no real analysis just worthless summaries of what we already know. Wat is this waffly shit? So no read on me, he thinks Vivax looks bad but ACTUALLY I don't want to kill him, and the tone of that last sentence makes me laugh. 'Guys we should probably kill JarJar, if that's ok with you........' Maybe that's me reading into it a bit too much but there's a difference between 'We need to kill JJD right now.' and 'We really should kill JarJar......' Its those damn ellipses or something.
Yeah I'd defs lynch Lazer atm. Worth noting though is he attacks Lazer for saying Vivax is scummy but he still wanted to lynch JJD because Vivax is active and although his tunneling felt scummy it isn't a scumtell of itself. Maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but half his points against Lazer are for using ellipses? Seriously. Also note despite saying he'd lynch him at this point, he doesn't mention Lazer again in his filter. He follows that up with indecisive posts on Vivax and Rayn. Finally his players he wants to look into post: On July 02 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Players I want to look into/talk to when I get the chance:
Marv - I find personal interaction with him to be the best way I get a read of him; I don't know what his scum game looks like so I'm still kind of wary about him.
Fuba - His townplay was really strong in Roulette and I see bits and pieces of it here but his lack of activity muddled it up somewhat, and it's different than the lack of activity he exhibited in Roulette. In that game he came in strong and performed strong analysis when necessary....here there was much more fluff to his posting that rubs me the wrong way amidst the good posts.
Stutters - Still think he's scum. His performance is a lot better than the half of the game I was there for but there's still stuff like this:
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Never gives the aforementioned reads and his 'case' on Fuba is incredibly weak and only points out the glaringly obvious that many had pointed out earlier. The conclusion makes sense somewhat as I agree that Fuba's regular analysis was lacking here and all the conclusions he reaches amount to 'I'm not sure',' but it's not much of a case and I could see it as a bus.
Then Vivax comes in and critiques the case a little and what happens?
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Immediately ready to drop it and push it to the backburner instead of coming back and trying to push it more strongly. This is not a towny who has a strong scumread, this is scum who was hoping he could do some weak analysis and then jump on sheep someone else.
Marv - "I dont know so I'm going to look at him" very helpful Fuba - Says the same thing I and multiple others have said. Notice that, once again, there is no conclusion only observations. Me- Hey a definitive stance! On me again . Here's why I think this is scummy. First, obviously how non-committal he is while also using that as his sole point against me. Second: Blatant misrepresentation. I still maintain my case on Fuba is pretty damn strong, he still is doing exactly what I laid out. That one is subjective though, whatever. " Never gives the aforementioned reads": This one bugs me. He completely ignores that I agreed with Vivax's case AND provided additional information that helped to secure his lynch pre-claim. Obviously it was wrong and forced a claim which sucks, but that is taking a stance. Notice how he also tries to pin promised reads on me when I said "I will read up on them later." Blatant misrepresentation to strengthen his case. The last part of his post is taken completely out of the context of the thread to make me look worse. I was on the chopping block at that point and would have been mislynched through towns passivity. Vivax had been expressing his disagreement with my Fuba case for hours and we had town reads on each other. I needed to work with someone to find a good lynch to both stop my mislynch and maximize the odds of hitting scum. but on the other hand after looking through his town games he post less as town than scum and had similar process in his reads to this game too esp his latest game when he tunneled someone so in conclusion: He TOTES TOWN Yamato on the other hand needs to step up and so far failed to deliver his promise. ##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato77 On May 06 2015 08:21 LightningStrike wrote:On May 06 2015 08:19 Damdred wrote:
Actually I think we have to lynch Yamato and stutters No we don't lynch Stutters we lynch Yamato. Stutters has been known as a infrequent poster regardless of his alignment from my research into his meta. These ones, they look super weird, especially as all you're now using is posting activity to decide his alignment. The entire mafia team has been afk so obviously stutters inactivity could be explained by that but you skip right past it and say he's totes town for it instead. It's kind of a superficial read that looks like you wanted to blend into what people thought. Hm... Maybe. I remember doing a similar thing as scum once where I tried so hard to justify a townread that I just looked at one of his past games and made an (actually incorrect) conclusion from his filter. Nobody bothered to check if what I was saying was correct and it somehow made me look better all the same. I told Holyflare he can check it himself if he doesn't believe me. This has nothing to do with whether it's wrong or right? Well, specifically it would be to do with whether it was right. It's that I see no difference between an entire mafia team not playing and him thus being low activity and comparing it to another game where he was low activity and making an uninformed 100% town conclusion from it. He did have a inactive Day 1 got lynched for it I know that. If you compared his town games to scum games he generally post 1 more page as scum than town so ya it kinda worrying but I have no doubts he's town. If he's scum it not because of his inactivity it would be for content which I found very similar to his town games from my own research. can you not see how this is a ridiculously redundant sentence? explain to me how the content differs, in depth please As scum he actually busses his teammates extremely hard and his cases are terrible on town players being scum. As town he analyze much better on people's alignments and defends himself harder as town than scum.
Sure he did do a dumb move punching HF but he genuinly thought that sep was scum and used his ability to redirect the damage to sep causing sep to make major damage and he was wrong on sep's alignment which is forgivable because alot people thought sep was scum/3rd party.
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On May 08 2015 03:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, finals week made this a bitch. Didn't expect it to be this active, it's hard as fuck just keeping up. If you guys want to lynch me I'd totally understand.
LS's meta read is correct, however that's not a genuine flip. Send like he just skimmed it and decided it's cool.
I only looked through your 3 scum games and your most recent town games like 5 of them including the one you got mod killed where you only had 1 page filter.
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On May 08 2015 03:20 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 03:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, finals week made this a bitch. Didn't expect it to be this active, it's hard as fuck just keeping up. If you guys want to lynch me I'd totally understand.
LS's meta read is correct, however that's not a genuine flip. Send like he just skimmed it and decided it's cool.
I only looked through your 3 scum games and your most recent town games like 5 of them including the one you got mod killed where you only had 1 page filter.
And made my conclusion from comparing and contrasting your town of late and your scum games you had played.
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