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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 04:58 GMT
#6101
i don't even know why i'm arguing with you, he's confirmed mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 04:59 GMT
#6102
at this point you're just blindly defending mafia for no reason whatsoever
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 06 2015 05:00 GMT
#6103
On April 06 2015 13:58 Holyflare wrote:
while also enabling you to frame people and stop me checking them



It's a role frame not alignment...
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 05:04 GMT
#6104
so what you've literally just told me is that blazinghand is actually moriarty because moriarty gets role checks

THANK YOU ONEGU FOR CONFIRMING THE MAFIA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 05:04 GMT
#6105
so when you all want to vote off scum moriarty blazinghand then you can continue on with the game in peace
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 05:06 GMT
#6106
i cannot believe you hid that from us for so long without realising, that's a certain kind of special

and it aligns with my red check! double confirmed mafia!
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 06 2015 05:12 GMT
#6107
On April 06 2015 13:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 12:56 Holyflare wrote:
you're quite literally defending bh from a red check even though he's done absolutely nothing but his mafia meta consistently (kita even meta'd him d1) and day 2 and 3 he's repeated the same thing over and over again which is classic mafia bh, if you can show me it's town bh go ahead

you also have to explain why all the shit townies doing nothing died instead of day 1 claimed cop blazinghand


this is the case on bh, anyone sensible and town should vote for him



more likely mafia + reasons:


kita: Trying to derail every attempt at people pushing information based lynches by discrediting and providing no input by himself, has all these "meta reads" but doesn't do anything with them or push them at all, s&b summed it up nicely and was killed. He even metad bh as mafia and refuses to even push him now and hasn't done so since d1

hts: keeps posting all these things about redirecting crap too all the peoples mafia reads.... told CLAIMED ANTI TOWN HER NIGHT ACTIONS LOL, afking and not really pushing, no input in relevant things, classic mafia hts (check void? for me catching her for same thing)

sepulcher: has mentioned hts once in the entire game and nothing positive, no read on hts at all, says he read previous game to know yamatos power was towny and good for jat so he didn't save jat, decides to save the person he knows 0 things about even though he said if he gets it wrong he is dead, doesn't use it on yamato when he looked at the power and thought it was "obviously" saving jat


batsnacks:
claimed mafia to me after i told him my role (3p with checks) and instead of helping me win he was a douche and instead of saying it was a joke decided to try and say i was lying instead

bh: see above



On April 06 2015 13:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare is probably Moriarty.


Holy shit. Not only does this remind me of how scum Holyflare tried to take out the "easy" lynches in Carol, but he's doing the same thing here. 3 of the 5 scum reads are low-post count people. It's funny how I was dinged for doing the same thing in Void (going after VA/Bats/Slam) and he goes and does the same thing here. Funny that, now.

Except I've now caught him taking what I said out of context.

Let's focus on the following (bolded):

hts: keeps posting all these things about redirecting crap too all the peoples mafia reads.... told CLAIMED ANTI TOWN HER NIGHT ACTIONS LOL, afking and not really pushing, no input in relevant things, classic mafia hts (check void? for me catching her for same thing)


I have said multiple times now that I am using my ability to redirect FROM my target's actions ONTO myself. JUST THE OPPOSITE of this claim.

I am redirecting "crap" FROM all the people's mafia reads TO myself.

I am taking 100% risk by incurring any adverse effect from a potential scum.

Why am I doing this? Largely because I'm being widely scumread, and with how severely limited my time is playing this game (Easter namely screwing over my playtime this weekend, with the only TL time being spent on moderating my own game) that's honestly the best I can do for this town atm.

If I trade myself in at night, save a more towny person that could be targetted adversely, and get someone caught out, it's much better than getting myself mislynched.

The fact I've been actively trying to get myself hurt/killed should be a huge indicator I'm not mafia. The fact you are blatantly ignoring this tells me there is something wrong.

Now it's regrettable I got VE killed, but if you understand the rationale for my actions you should understand why this cannot be a mafia agenda. The only thing I am guilty of in this case is misreading people, and you amongst a few others should know my town play isn't the best town play in the world.

Except you do, and your listpost clearly shows that you are trying to take advantage of us.

As for my lack of posting, if people choose not to believe that I've been massively hurt by RL, there's nothing I can do about this.

Which leads me to how Crossfire is pushing me on the dead people's reads. It's funny how he picks Keirathi and Marv - the former of whom has only played twice with me and the latter who has admitted he has a hard time reading me instead of LightningStrike, also a confirmed town, who has played more games with me than the other two combined and knows how to read me extremely well regardless of alignment, regardless of postcount, regardless of my agenda.

Not that he'd know that about LightningStrike but his selective criteria is astonishing.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 06 2015 05:15 GMT
#6108
On April 05 2015 06:59 Blazinghand wrote:
It's not clear whether or not I'm getting shot so here's what I did N1 and N2

N1 I checked JAT ("other power")
N2 I checked VE ("other power")
Tonight I'm checking Onegu (not sure what my result will be) on order to synergize with his ability. the masks he generate will grant someone the ability to do a ROLEFRAME in addition to the healing power. BEAR THIS IN MIND. Keir knows the details of why I'd use my power on the person Onegu would target.

again, my results can be stuff like "item baseD" (I expect to that that for Onegu), "cop", "healer", "rber", "kp power" "rediction power" and so on. "other power" probably means a mix or somethign that doesn't fall into any of those categories



Here is where he claimed what are you going on about HF?
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 05:16 GMT
#6109
i didn't say that you are redirecting things to other people it means that you are telling other people's mafia reads what you are doing at night lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 05:19 GMT
#6110
On April 06 2015 14:15 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 06:59 Blazinghand wrote:
It's not clear whether or not I'm getting shot so here's what I did N1 and N2

N1 I checked JAT ("other power")
N2 I checked VE ("other power")
Tonight I'm checking Onegu (not sure what my result will be) on order to synergize with his ability. the masks he generate will grant someone the ability to do a ROLEFRAME in addition to the healing power. BEAR THIS IN MIND. Keir knows the details of why I'd use my power on the person Onegu would target.

again, my results can be stuff like "item baseD" (I expect to that that for Onegu), "cop", "healer", "rber", "kp power" "rediction power" and so on. "other power" probably means a mix or somethign that doesn't fall into any of those categories



Here is where he claimed what are you going on about HF?


dude are you for real

his power doesn't show roles at all.... MORIARTY CHECKS SHOW ROLES
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 06 2015 05:23 GMT
#6111
Dude they are both fucking role cops. One gets the role type and the other gets the role name... HF put the drugs down man...
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 05:29 GMT
#6112
On April 06 2015 14:16 Holyflare wrote:
i didn't say that you are redirecting things to other people it means that you are telling other people's mafia reads what you are doing at night lol


that giant post of you trying to fling shit at me also discredits you massively because it still doesn't explain why you claimed what actions you were doing to claimed anti town 3p trfel

you're saying i'm going after low hanging fruit and low posters for 3/5 people in my list but that's not the case at all, I have good reasons why other people aren't mafia


xfire - his role usage was genuine about how he wanted to trick mafia into revealing things but the pm's ruined it, would be a complete waste to use that power as mafia while pm's are enabled and not use it later

obi - seemed very involved at the start and was friendly in pm's and stuff, felt pretty investigative etc although he's fallen off and been shit

onegu - claimed his power n1 to me and has been pretty open about things all game, if he was mafia he wouldn't be using his power to coordinate some of the things he's done and he also just confirmed mafia bh

snarf-
On March 31 2015 02:02 Snarfs wrote:
I could get behind Damdred being mafia. His day 1 in the student game we played a bit over a month ago when he was town was completely different. There he wasn't aftaid not to have solid reads day 1. He also posted one liners to get his thoughts out even if they weren't 100%. The only people that pushed him for it were mafia.

Compare that to here where he is trying a bit too hard to have well formed opinions on people despite the fact that it's still just day 1. Even his opening feels forced.



nuff said

that's 4 people i had good reasons to town read, on top of that batsnacks has claimed mafia to me so that's a lock lynch/kill depending on va

bh is a red check and his play perfectly fits in line with how he has played mafia in the past. Kita also did a nice summary of that day 1 and it just fit more and more in line the longer the game has gone on, he also just got caught out by onegu's power. Do you remember anything he's done this game other than push a fake red check on va? I sure as hell don't. When is town bh ever that useless?

you have literally just flung shit in every possible direction just now and even claimed your power to an anti town which anyone reading this game would have the slightest sense to never ever ever do, jat was also mad at you for not being open about your powers to him and you made up some excuse about not town reading him (more like you never tried) you said you couldn't trust jat but conveniently claimed your power to both him and kita (who you also didn't trust) earlier in the game

sepulcher saved a question mark in you over someone he knew was definitely town after saving jat last night, he apparently took the risk to save you even though you are afk and aren't really playing over the guaranteed save of yamato... for what reason?


if you can counter these points congratulations, I've got a good list of mafia here so to say it's anything like carol where i pushed easy lynches is terrible
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 05:33 GMT
#6113
On April 05 2015 08:04 Half the Sky wrote:
Holyflare, Blazinghand and Kitaman all still alive?

Kitaman is the town leader, and Yamato and S&B got shot instead of him?

WTF?


it's also hilarious how you say this but then criticise my mafia team that has blazinghand/kitaman in it

hahahahahahaha hts try harder when you're mafia plz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 05:35 GMT
#6114
i'm half tempted to drop my bh vendetta and follow xfire to hts :D :D :D
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 06 2015 05:45 GMT
#6115
I haven't been shit...
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 05:46 GMT
#6116
well, whatever you say
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 06 2015 05:48 GMT
#6117
I still think you're Moriarty tbh.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 05:51 GMT
#6118
most proest town moriarty of them all in that case
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 06 2015 05:54 GMT
#6119
-.-
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 06 2015 06:02 GMT
#6120
can you argue with the fact that hts is like super mafia for saying i'm picking low hanging fruit like carol after saying that kita/bh are probably mafia herself rofl?

+ she claimed her actions to trfel

LOL
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