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On March 30 2015 03:33 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
like seriously it's not fucking hard jat, why do you love to be an obnoxious prick all the time
just tell me who you think is mafia and who you think is town and why, you can't complain there are no candidates because that just means you don't have any reads which means you are actually mafia hahahahahahaha
yes great it was a joke haha
now who are your actual reads because this is not a joke
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On March 30 2015 03:35 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:34 ritoky wrote:
alright boys, I see bats voted for me, that's enough to land him on my town list.
town:
ritoky
rsoul
ls
sl
hapa
yamato
batsnacks
3/10 slots left, I need people to convince me of town reads.
also vote me and I will lynch HtS, cleric seems okay too though. not down for lynching hts rit, i'm sorry pre-game excuse for being inactive today also why is hapa on your town list?
he has sl on his town list who is a claimed 3p
he has ls on his town list who was scummy and only just claimed a role
he has hapa on his town list who is literally just mafia and there's no reason to think otherwise
other reads are fine
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On March 30 2015 03:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
like seriously it's not fucking hard jat, why do you love to be an obnoxious prick all the time
just tell me who you think is mafia and who you think is town and why, you can't complain there are no candidates because that just means you don't have any reads which means you are actually mafia Maybe I will actually do something like this later but there is so much wrong with this post. If I had no reads that would NOT mean I am mafia. How on earth does me complaining about candidates mean I have no reads? Why on earth are you getting this angry about a joke you didn't understand and why does it make you call me (a townread of yours) scum? What the hell....
maybe because i am in a bad mood
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why not just post your reads?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!!!!!!!!??? why is it so hard to get such a trivial piece of information in the open for you
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On March 30 2015 03:39 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 30 2015 03:34 ritoky wrote:
alright boys, I see bats voted for me, that's enough to land him on my town list.
town:
ritoky
rsoul
ls
sl
hapa
yamato
batsnacks
3/10 slots left, I need people to convince me of town reads.
also vote me and I will lynch HtS, cleric seems okay too though. How are ls and hapa in your townlist? ls is an uncc'd cop, plus he said shit that was so utterly dumb that it reminded me of the time I made the "comma read" on him and he was town. hapa did some shit where people asked him questions and he quoted good posts and only that, was town as fuk.
you had ls on your town list before he was an uncc'd cop... what was your reason before
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i think we should put rsoul as warrior btw
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bad mood/don't want to argue/rsoul is very towny and will be an easier read for people to trust than me with a tendency to go hardcore as mafia
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On March 30 2015 03:50 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:49 Holyflare wrote:
bad mood/don't want to argue/rsoul is very towny and will be an easier read for people to trust than me with a tendency to go hardcore as mafia I am against it.
do you not town read rsoul?
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hapa is the lynch no question about it
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On March 30 2015 03:54 ritoky wrote:
alright we got our list (subject to change)
town:
ritoky
rsoul
ls
sl
yamato
hapa
batsnacks
onegu
kita
koshi
hello everyone, I am captain Malcolm Reynolds captain of the ship Serenity. I am here to distribute my 11 sets of goods to the town. My goods include, but are not limited to: medicine, luck, fuel, and grenades (Jayne's grenades). I am going to be doing a fairly large supply dump tonight because of how the mechanics around my ability work, I think the best option is to just get as much of it into town ASAP.
if you don't believe me go look at my filter nerdz
well I know one of those people on your list will be dead before it happens so gj changing anything about that!
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On March 30 2015 03:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:33 justanothertownie wrote:On March 30 2015 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
like seriously it's not fucking hard jat, why do you love to be an obnoxious prick all the time
just tell me who you think is mafia and who you think is town and why, you can't complain there are no candidates because that just means you don't have any reads which means you are actually mafia hahahahahahaha yes great it was a joke haha now who are your actual reads because this is not a joke
please just do this now jat...
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also you people should all be voting for a candidate now not holding the vote till deadline so you can conveniently change it to your mafia buddies
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On March 30 2015 04:00 Holyflare wrote:
also you people should all be voting for a candidate now not holding the vote till deadline so you can conveniently change it to your mafia buddies
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On March 30 2015 04:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare stop calling every single person who isn't voting mafia thanks.
i'm not but i know it's going to happen
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On March 30 2015 04:07 Hapahauli wrote:First things first, I'm starting anew. None of this Kita/BH stuff. Second things seconds, we are 100% killing Trefl tomorrow.He posted his scum-case on Sicklucker... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?page=41#808Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 06:25 Trfel wrote:... sickluckerIt's obvious that what sicklucker's play has been scummy. The question is whether or not it is alignment indicative. I think that it is. On March 28 2015 09:56 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so I have veteran powers and im never a nk. So ill just hardclaim so we have a confirmed town as mayor Why would sicklucker do this? - As town, sicklucker's claim is intended to get a confirmed town (himself) on the adventuring party. Another possibility is that he actually has extremely strong powers, and wants to ensure that he survives. It is possible that he did this for both of these motives.
- As mafia, sicklucker's claim is intended to try to get elected to the adventuring party, and to explain why he is not night killed in this game.
And the explanation for this play from town!sicklucker makes no sense. Sicklucker didn't make any effort to push his campaign for the adventuring party. If he is willing to claim one of his abilities early on, I expect him to follow through and push this correctly. He posts the following: + Show Spoiler +On March 28 2015 10:50 sicklucker wrote:
0 votes on me a confirmed town. Ya ok On March 28 2015 10:54 sicklucker wrote:
If i knew this was gonna be a popularity contest and not a give it to a town contest I probably wouldnt have claimed On March 28 2015 10:56 sicklucker wrote:
You guys better at least make me the cleric or ill question your intelligence. And doesn't mention it again. Clearly he gave up on his campaign very early on. And since he's already invested in it, this makes no sense. He clearly had no plan for pushing, and not even a desire to interact with people and explain himself. Furthermore, sicklucker himself stated that he never gets night killed. On March 28 2015 10:55 sicklucker wrote:
Rsoutin im never nked ever. Like ever I been nked once ever and it was in your first newbie game. im not going to be nked in a 27 player game. Not ever So, if he really does have strong powers and needs to survive, he simply wouldn't say anything, and that would accomplish this for him. In conclusion, sicklucker has a good chance of being mafia here. His play doesn't come from a town perspective. ... in which he makes a fairly reasonable post wrapping up why sicklucker is "mafia." However in his next post is what makes me want to lynch him: Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 16:06 Trfel wrote:
First off, apologies for this post being short. I'm rather sleepy, and I'm really busy tomorrow, so I can't guarantee much more from me until after the deadline.
I'm not convinced that LightningStrike is scum here. He made a bunch of null reads, but his early push on rsoultin was rather townie. He seems to be trying hard in this game, and I don't want to lynch him.
For now, I think that Holyflare is the best vote. He seems very towny, and he has been actively leading the thread. He's also said many of the same thoughts that I have had. His lynch candidates also generally line up with mine. I also trust Holyflare with whatever abilities are given to him by the adventuring party role.
##vote Holyflare
I personally like a sicklucker lynch. He's basically claimed third party.
As for Hapahauli: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........................
I don't want to lynch Half the Sky yet, either. I am fairly confident in reading her in a longer game, using the tell that Holyflare developed: "boring Half the Sky is mafia". I am not convinced that Half the Sky has been given enough time to be interesting in this game yet. He wants to lynch sicklucker because he's 3rd party. That's a big nono. Mafia want to lynch 3rd parties. Town generally are looking for mafia first. It doesn't help that the rest of his post is basically summary and non-committal reads on LS, myself, and HtS.
"town are generally looking for mafia"
"in the first post trfel concludes that sicklucker is mafia"
what hapa? didn't sl claim 3p after trfel made that post?
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On March 30 2015 04:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 04:07 Hapahauli wrote:First things first, I'm starting anew. None of this Kita/BH stuff. Second things seconds, we are 100% killing Trefl tomorrow.He posted his scum-case on Sicklucker... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?page=41#808On March 29 2015 06:25 Trfel wrote:... sickluckerIt's obvious that what sicklucker's play has been scummy. The question is whether or not it is alignment indicative. I think that it is. On March 28 2015 09:56 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so I have veteran powers and im never a nk. So ill just hardclaim so we have a confirmed town as mayor Why would sicklucker do this? - As town, sicklucker's claim is intended to get a confirmed town (himself) on the adventuring party. Another possibility is that he actually has extremely strong powers, and wants to ensure that he survives. It is possible that he did this for both of these motives.
- As mafia, sicklucker's claim is intended to try to get elected to the adventuring party, and to explain why he is not night killed in this game.
And the explanation for this play from town!sicklucker makes no sense. Sicklucker didn't make any effort to push his campaign for the adventuring party. If he is willing to claim one of his abilities early on, I expect him to follow through and push this correctly. He posts the following: + Show Spoiler +On March 28 2015 10:50 sicklucker wrote:
0 votes on me a confirmed town. Ya ok On March 28 2015 10:54 sicklucker wrote:
If i knew this was gonna be a popularity contest and not a give it to a town contest I probably wouldnt have claimed On March 28 2015 10:56 sicklucker wrote:
You guys better at least make me the cleric or ill question your intelligence. And doesn't mention it again. Clearly he gave up on his campaign very early on. And since he's already invested in it, this makes no sense. He clearly had no plan for pushing, and not even a desire to interact with people and explain himself. Furthermore, sicklucker himself stated that he never gets night killed. On March 28 2015 10:55 sicklucker wrote:
Rsoutin im never nked ever. Like ever I been nked once ever and it was in your first newbie game. im not going to be nked in a 27 player game. Not ever So, if he really does have strong powers and needs to survive, he simply wouldn't say anything, and that would accomplish this for him. In conclusion, sicklucker has a good chance of being mafia here. His play doesn't come from a town perspective. ... in which he makes a fairly reasonable post wrapping up why sicklucker is "mafia." However in his next post is what makes me want to lynch him: On March 29 2015 16:06 Trfel wrote:
First off, apologies for this post being short. I'm rather sleepy, and I'm really busy tomorrow, so I can't guarantee much more from me until after the deadline.
I'm not convinced that LightningStrike is scum here. He made a bunch of null reads, but his early push on rsoultin was rather townie. He seems to be trying hard in this game, and I don't want to lynch him.
For now, I think that Holyflare is the best vote. He seems very towny, and he has been actively leading the thread. He's also said many of the same thoughts that I have had. His lynch candidates also generally line up with mine. I also trust Holyflare with whatever abilities are given to him by the adventuring party role.
##vote Holyflare
I personally like a sicklucker lynch. He's basically claimed third party.
As for Hapahauli: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........................
I don't want to lynch Half the Sky yet, either. I am fairly confident in reading her in a longer game, using the tell that Holyflare developed: "boring Half the Sky is mafia". I am not convinced that Half the Sky has been given enough time to be interesting in this game yet. He wants to lynch sicklucker because he's 3rd party. That's a big nono. Mafia want to lynch 3rd parties. Town generally are looking for mafia first. It doesn't help that the rest of his post is basically summary and non-committal reads on LS, myself, and HtS. "town are generally looking for mafia" "in the first post trfel concludes that sicklucker is mafia" what hapa? didn't sl claim 3p after trfel made that post?
other points on trfel are far more convincing tbh
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let's comment on that guy we want to lynch post instead of that guy we don't want to lynch shoddy reasoning for town reading ls
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On March 30 2015 04:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
let's comment on that guy we want to lynch post instead of that guy we don't want to lynch shoddy reasoning for town reading ls Fair enough. So...Trfel/Keirathi?
no hapa still, that post was awful, his reads aren't "non committal" like hapa is stating, he town reads ls quite hard and has the same read on hapa as everyone else in the game and same with hts (before someone found out her pre-game excuse or w/e)
he also says that town generally like to find mafia first and his first post was that trfel called sicklucker mafia......?
i don't get it at all
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On March 30 2015 04:21 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 04:18 Holyflare wrote:On March 30 2015 04:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 30 2015 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
let's comment on that guy we want to lynch post instead of that guy we don't want to lynch shoddy reasoning for town reading ls Fair enough. So...Trfel/Keirathi? no hapa still, that post was awful, his reads aren't "non committal" like hapa is stating, he town reads ls quite hard and has the same read on hapa as everyone else in the game and same with hts (before someone found out her pre-game excuse or w/e) he also says that town generally like to find mafia first and his first post was that trfel called sicklucker mafia......? i don't get it at all I don't really know hapa, but you tend to do that thing where makes no sense = mafia, when some people just make no sense sometimes. does hapa normally make sense?
yes? i'll let him do more stuff first though
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On March 30 2015 04:31 yamato77 wrote:
I feel as if I'm being ignored.
Meh.
well it's hard to talk to you when you don't say anything with any content in it
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On March 30 2015 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 04:18 Holyflare wrote:On March 30 2015 04:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 30 2015 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
let's comment on that guy we want to lynch post instead of that guy we don't want to lynch shoddy reasoning for town reading ls Fair enough. So...Trfel/Keirathi? no hapa still, that post was awful, his reads aren't "non committal" like hapa is stating, he town reads ls quite hard and has the same read on hapa as everyone else in the game and same with hts (before someone found out her pre-game excuse or w/e) he also says that town generally like to find mafia first and his first post was that trfel called sicklucker mafia......? i don't get it at all Also, it's worth commenting that Trefel isn't "hard town-reading LS". The statement "I'm not convinced that LightningStrike is scum" does not sounds like a strong town read. Furthermore, you're not really understanding what I"m trying to say about Trefl in general. Sicklucker post was good on its own. Paired with the 2nd, it is bad. He calls sicklucker mafia, as well as a couple of other people. Instead of developing his other reads when sicklucker claims 3p, he gets super comfortable with lynching sicklucker. That 'aint good.
I do understand but you tried to shovel more crap onto him to bury him by saying that townies generally try to find mafia first and your first illustration of him is that he was looking for mafia in regards to sl. I'm not comfortable scum reading him for wanting to lynch sicklucker when I myself was thinking the same thing if you returned and were towny.
If anything it speaks more that he didn't want to lynch you over sicklucker than him just wanting to lynch sicklucker.
It doesn't matter anyway, talk more about other people.
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