Mafia Mini Mafia2: another miniature game of mafia

On April 07 2015 13:21 GlowingBear wrote:


Used "rekt"

Confirmed mafia.

On April 07 2015 13:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


This guy is trying too hard to be town, thus he is mafia.

/discuss

On April 07 2015 13:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I don't think you know how the wambulance works.

On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote:
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.

Will players that wish to join nominate themselves in the following format. ##Join Team A/B/C/D

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Will players that wish to join nominate themselves in the following format. ##Join Team A/B/C/D

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All players that do not vote for a team soon will be automatically placed in one by our Raging Nutty Geriatrics™ (RNG).

Will players that wish to join nominate themselves in the following format. ##Join Team A/B/C/D

I will be on hiatus for the next day or so due to irregularities in the planning schedule. I will leave the rest up to my lovely co-host who will finalise the teams. The show will start as soon as feasibly possible.

##vote palmar
##vote dreadreturn
##vote eden
##vote obiwan


An addendum: DreadReturn must reveal his true information to fully participate and be amongst the champions. Obiwan is possibly interchangeable although at a stretch. Replacing two would be with vivax who plagiarised my subliminal messaging broadcast of obiwan and added me to the police watch list and Glowingbear who in total has posted a lot of nothing and has praised me for doing nothing when he is normally scum reading me for doing nothing. Palmar is 100% not a champion in any game of mine.

On April 09 2015 07:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Doesn't really matter; if he's playing a smurf then there's a reason he's smurfing.

No, the reason isn't "because he's mafia" because he was smurfing before the game started.

This game setup is open. The possible roles and number of each role is disclosed here.

On April 09 2015 07:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


-.-

You still haven't distinguished why my actions regarding your game were scummier than yamato's, nor have you explained why yamato is off your list.

Nor have you explained where your Koshi read went.

On April 09 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar is the aperture Blazinghand of this game with the added bonus of being mean and rude and not jokey like normal. He wants to try hard to find mafia but somehow only has gb as mafia for his one post. His only read was dr and that's just for being bad and nothing more. Not try hard at all just a lot of posts on 1 subject matter blown out of proportion. Lynxh with fire.

On April 09 2015 08:01 Palmar wrote:
The fact that you think me wanting to kill GB is because of that one post just shows you're not even paying attention to the thread.

On April 09 2015 08:08 Koshi wrote:
I just dont see what hf is doing here as mafia unless both gb and dr are both mafia.

On April 09 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:


I never had a koshi read. You called me mafia and hadn't voted for me once the entire game while simultaneously pushing the shittest he's only done this once as mafia. While in that game i countlessly said i did it as town too (scooby doo in really small mafia) and then said you don't know who to vote. Only really bad people/mafia complain about someone being town read for nothing without concluding that the person giving the town read out is mafia.

Yamato is just anti fun in life and came back and made a not terrible post where he didn't come to the right conclusion and vote eden.

On April 09 2015 08:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


By this logic, you are scumreading rsoultin, glowingbear, and ritoky along with palmar, myself, eden, and DR while concluding that yamato is town for being wrong about voting eden.

\o/

On April 09 2015 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar that is. Dr i don't know about because nobody thinks him claiming his name is a good idea. He seems like nooby/honest town but only if you take it at face value.

On April 09 2015 08:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I said the same thing about rsoul and you called me mafia for not calling her mafia.
Gb doesn't show up on your list at all despite doing something that would make you lean mafia on him.
Palmar doing nothing is incorrect.

Tbh I'd be perfectly fine plynching you if you won't explain your read. I cba dealing with this kind of thing.

On April 09 2015 08:47 Palmar wrote:
HF do you think GB is town?

On April 07 2015 14:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


How? He hasn't even done anything yet.

@Rso: I have played a large number of games with Hf and I have never once seen him do this as town.

On April 07 2015 14:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I literally just told you that the only time Hf has done this was the time he was mafia.

It has nothing to do with it not following "mafia agenda" or whatever that's supposed to mean when someone starts posting nothing.

On April 09 2015 08:55 Palmar wrote:

You know that

a) the claim was probably a joke
b) Even if he is vigi, both teams have them. It's just as likely mafia vigi would randomly claim as town vigi.

Like you literally just lost a game where people kept off lynching "blues" because reasons.

He is scummier than the alternative so you lynch him.

On April 09 2015 07:30 DreadReturn wrote:
HF, thoughts on Vivax?

On April 09 2015 09:05 Palmar wrote:
hey HF, I hard counterclaim vigilante.

So there we go, now you have to either lynch me or GB. we good with that?

On March 27 2014 21:52 Holyflare wrote:

This is gold



Quoted from champions game

On April 09 2015 10:18 rsoultin wrote:
yo hf, was there any design to your game other than just having one for the sake of having one? inb4 ppl think i'm still mocking hf

On April 09 2015 10:14 Holyflare wrote:
Someone please read obi filter and acknowledge me.

On April 09 2015 10:33 DreadReturn wrote:
HF, if I'm scum I'm scum and you should vote me for it. Threatening to vote kill me for not revealing my identity doesn't make any sense if you are interested in killing scum.

Unless you are of opinion that only scum would not reveal identity when smurfing?

On April 09 2015 10:52 yamato77 wrote:

he isn't going to, and policy lynching a smurf is a shit reason to vote someone

make a real decision between actually viable lynches.

On April 09 2015 11:02 Onegu wrote:
Why aren't we lynching koshi? Like he scum reads me hen ever follows up until I'm null for no reason, he only has a five page filter no original reads and only 2 posts of substance.

@eden you know my koshi read is on point, get on it unlike last time and lynching town Onegu instead...

On April 09 2015 11:19 Damdred wrote:
Here's the thing, I feel really strongly about this lynch on GB. And the resistance against it to a point and the votes on GB piling up and then leaving makes me feel slightly better about pushing it I've been struggling lately with pushing things when I'm not entirely sure but I'm really sure about GB.

I would like GB to be lynched today, consolidate with me

On April 09 2015 11:15 Holyflare wrote:
Like seriously what is this dr doing as the leading wagon just before deadline? Contemplating existence? Or just letting people try to derail and returning like 10 mins before deadline with either a claim or some other bs.

On April 09 2015 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


You added GB to your mafia list, or at the very least, your watch list. What changed?

On April 09 2015 11:30 Onegu wrote:



This one but prolly makes him town to be this conceited...

On April 09 2015 11:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


The only point of dr being antitown is the fact that he won't reveal his smurf, which is a null tell.

Why is keeping your hidden reads secret towny and why are awful Gb posts towny posts?

On April 09 2015 11:36 DreadReturn wrote:
What's with this unrealistic expectation that I'm glued to the screen until deadline hits? If I'm here I'm here, if I'm not I'm not.

GB has been absent for a good 22 hours so I'm inclined to think that I might just be dead wrong with my initial read so

##Unvote Vivax
##Vote GlowingBear

I still think Vivax is a stronger scum read though.

On April 09 2015 11:37 Damdred wrote:


I'm not sure why the read has to change when I've been gone necessarily on Eden. Eden did scummy things I left came back Eden was doing more scummy things like that post about defending GB I still hate that post.

GB is my top scum read I want him lynched

On April 09 2015 11:41 DreadReturn wrote:

What's to followup here? "No, Vivax isn't worth it, let's kill him"? Give everyone you can meta read a pass? You aren't talking about Vivax's actions beside post count, which isn't really addressing my case at all.

On April 09 2015 11:46 yamato77 wrote:
It's not SL, I don't believe it for a second. Too many words/post.

On April 09 2015 11:53 Holyflare wrote:
The guy literally flipped his strongest town read for no reason even though nothing has changed since all his posts spent defending gb. This was only when the gb wagon had sufficient support enough.

On April 09 2015 12:03 DreadReturn wrote:
Whatever. If this is what the next hour is going to be like, I'll just afk so the thread doesn't get more cluttered with speculations. Call me crap all you want, but if you really want to win, start organizing your posts. Reread the thread, you can feel free to ignore me, whatever I don't care.

Hold Vivax and HF accountable for tomorrow, make sure they don't skate like they did today.

On April 09 2015 12:14 DreadReturn wrote:

HF, I got nothing. My strongest read I have is on Vivax. You said it sucks. Ok. Next is you. I guess you think that sucks to. Distant third is Obi, and only by process of elimination. I'm not going to fabricate reads. I have him as scum because I have everyone else slightly more town than him.

As a point of morale, if you actively shut down what I bring to the table, what makes you think I want to keep engaging in conversation with you? What can I even bring? Why wouldn't anyone want to just ignore you?

On April 09 2015 12:17 yamato77 wrote:
We ARE NOT lynching Palmar.

The lynch is now between DR and Vivax, since both of them are around to show their alignment.

EVERYONE follows me when I make my choice.

On April 09 2015 12:26 yamato77 wrote:
We shall stay the course then

HF is definitely pretty high on my scum list for tomorrow given how he's acted about the lynch today.

On April 09 2015 12:35 yamato77 wrote:
you two are a pair.

On April 09 2015 12:35 Vivax wrote:
So HF, we have two vig claims in GB and Palmar?

On April 08 2015 07:07 Eden1892 wrote:
New list, maybe probably last post before mtg tonight. I will maybe try harder when I get back from then, sorry my posting hasn't been great so far just haven't gotten into the swing of things yet I guess.

1. Damdred (Damdy wamdy): Seems like town!Damdred from what I remember. I might just be being lazy and missing inconsistencies in his posts but whenever I read his stuff it seems like it checks out. Searching and motivated early which is a good sign.

2. Koshi (Koosh ball): Tonally reads like town!Koshi to me, not seeing the productivity or the "on switch" for him yet. I feel like he probably will flip the switch at some point but I reserve the right to lynch him if he doesn't

3. Onegu (1gu): Literally don't even care, remember nothing but him posting lyrics. Dude just tends to troll and shit and get POE lynched late, hopefully he'll do something silly like claim mason in a way that can't possibly be scumread so I can read him.

4. ObiWanShinobi (obi trice, real name no gimmicks): Gets points for being the only motherfucker calling me mafia with the balls to put a vote on it, even though his reason was meh and I don't remember him doing much else. Not enough points to be town lean though.

5. GlowingBear (GB): I guess at some point I'll read what he said. If 4 people wanted to vote him over it then it must be important. But nothing he said really caught my attention the first time, seemed like some pointless nitpicking at Palmar but idk. I didn't read closely. zzz

6. DreadReturn (+ Show Spoiler +): This guy just posted and it sounded ok, which is great cuz otherwise I didn't remember he was even in the game. It seemed earnest though, he looks like he gives a shit.

7. rsoultin (+ Show Spoiler +): Count on it.

8.Palmar (Ram pal): I actually get this bad feeling in the back of my head that Palmar trying hard early makes him mafia, but his posting actually seemed pretty townie and I would much rather Palmar do this from now on so I'm gonna reward it with a townread. Seemed like he had a good direction to what he was digging into (although I admit I don't really remember much of what he was digging into lol). It was around p15-16, maybe later I'll go find what made me think this.

9.Vivax(Viv): What a wuss.

10.Eden1892 (Eden Stevens)

11.ritoky (Tokyo city? I got nothing): His gifs early were funny but he hasn't done anything yet. Having now seen a few of his games as either alignment recently I think I can get a good read on him in time.

12.yamato77 (Weapon Refit): Also a wuss, and it feels like he's doing a lot of grumpy posting without trying to fix the things he's grumpy about. Take with a grain of salt though because literally the exact last time I accused him of this he was town :/ I had him as italics red which is scumlean but thinking over this more he should probably be null. I'm not good at reading yamato but I don't like his early posting.

13.HolyFlare(Not DP): I generally like the arguments he's made so far and I look forward to the game show!!!!

On April 09 2015 12:40 Vivax wrote:
Can anyone explain to me why they suddenly tr DR cause he starts breathing reads just before EoD?

On April 09 2015 12:36 Holyflare wrote:


You're the one that wants to lynch your biggest scum reads scum read cz yolo. Pathetic.

On April 09 2015 12:53 rsoultin wrote:


lolol what we'd give for a shotgun xP

well if y'all don't have anything new I need to see right this second dreadreturn is an okay lynch

i'd prefer vivax but whatevs

hf stop pretending scum can't buss -_- i'm not amused

On April 09 2015 12:56 rsoultin wrote:


xP

On April 09 2015 12:54 Holyflare wrote:
Btw don't have to make this any more obvious than it is but if you are town vigilante and palmar hard claimed it shoot him no matter what and don't claim till you do.

On April 09 2015 13:08 Holyflare wrote:
If you're a town vig and not palmar shoot palmar. If you're a town vig and are palmar shoot damdred. Jk save the towniest person you know.

On April 09 2015 13:11 yamato77 wrote:
Should have switched to Vivax.

On April 09 2015 13:12 Damdred wrote:
Seriously that's fucked up

I hope the big does shoot me so that next time you ask me to consolidate to give you your lynch I'll quote this and say fuck you again.

On April 09 2015 13:13 yamato77 wrote:

stop being a shitter

On April 09 2015 13:19 Eden1892 wrote:

if you could do that who would you do it on?

question goes for everyone in the thread actually

On April 09 2015 13:13 Holyflare wrote:


I honestly fail to see how this a shit question and not highly relevant.

On April 09 2015 11:53 Holyflare wrote:
The guy literally flipped his strongest town read for no reason even though nothing has changed since all his posts spent defending gb. This was only when the gb wagon had sufficient support enough.

On April 09 2015 11:12 Holyflare wrote:


Read his filter seemed pretty towny. Few points for koshi to answer when he returns:

Had eden as scummy, rsoul posted a list with eden as town and koshi's next list has eden top town. Then koshi posts saying eden case on someone was scummy then talks to eden about gb like trying to convince a towny person.. Weird sequence. Explain.

On April 09 2015 21:31 Palmar wrote:

Deal. You first.

On April 09 2015 21:34 Palmar wrote:
Like your accusation of me is basically exactly what you did.

When DR flipped his read on GB (which wasn't scummy at all, even if you make it out to have been) you had been locked in on him for a long time.

On April 09 2015 21:55 Palmar wrote:

And none of this made him scum.

He sounded like a towny which is something you admitted and I noticed.

On April 09 2015 21:56 Palmar wrote:

You didn't disprove anything.

On April 09 2015 22:14 Vivax wrote:
HF your game still running?

On April 09 2015 22:55 rsoultin wrote:
hf, real question man

what's the difference between a bad case and a case made by scum?

like, seriously, the number of times you vets bring up "omg his case on me was so awful" as a reason to scumread someone is mind-numbing, so what am i missing?

cause my knee-jerk reaction to that is...so?

On April 09 2015 22:12 Holyflare wrote:


If you are unclear with any of the points that I used to counter yours then please go ahead and ask for clarification. I'm not asking for an argument, I'm asking for a civil discussion where you try and push my mislynch and I prove all your points wrong at every turn.

Failure to do so means you have no further points.

Thank you for your cooperation.

On April 09 2015 23:25 Palmar wrote:

Yamato wanted to lynch Eden? That'd have been a much better lynch than DR.

On April 09 2015 23:32 Palmar wrote:

I still haven't read like the last 5 pages before the lynch. Who did yamato want to lynch?

On April 09 2015 23:38 Palmar wrote:


Why do you think I am mafia?

On April 09 2015 23:39 Palmar wrote:

So do you think Yamato is scum?

On April 09 2015 23:53 Koshi wrote:
Vivax/HF/GB

Really. It aint hard.

On April 09 2015 11:20 Holyflare wrote:


Are you fucking serious?

On April 09 2015 11:25 Holyflare wrote:
Because the points on gb aren't good and this dr guy is anti town as all kinds of hell and not following up anything and not even responding at all while the scummy people in the thread derail it to gb. Damdred also says there's sufficient pushback to his gb read but doesn't explain how this makes gb mafia in the slightest and is an incredibly weird way to ohrase a reason to scum read someone.

On April 09 2015 23:57 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone can scum read me after I've been nothing but open then they are mafia or just pretty terrible.

On April 10 2015 01:01 Palmar wrote:

I'm town and I completely ignored your game and would never have caught your links. How does that fit with your theory?

On April 10 2015 01:20 GlowingBear wrote:


That's my only question for now as I am still catching up. Your answer was very dodgy. Pick a team now please

On April 10 2015 01:23 Damdred wrote:
A 12 hour nap and I'm not among the living.

Stop twisting things I've said hf my change on Eden was explained at least once and you still give wrong facts.

I'm so glad that I can't be frustrated because once again nobody will listen to me and il scummy for it.

I'm getting to work in a fee minutes after some coffee

HF was looking town until his game thing wasn't the thing I thought it was. His defense on me is weird and his push on Dread is completely off. Lunching the guy because he didn't reveal his name is silly. And by lunching him, he keeps me alive and the discussion wether I'm Mafia or not goes on. In the other hand, his attempts to tease me by calling me useless and awful sounded townie, since he knows I'm sensible to that shit and if I'm town I would be on his neck for this. This attempt to uncover my alignment looks townie to me. So, I have to evaluate him better.

On April 10 2015 06:28 yamato77 wrote:
HF literally typing absolute lies into the thread at this point:




Bullshit.

On April 09 2015 23:36 Holyflare wrote:


Yamato's biggest scum read was DR. DR posts list read and people get shaky, me included. Yamato yells that nobody should switch and the lynch therefore has to be between DR, his biggest scum read or vivax, his not really scum read who is scum read by his biggest scum read hardcore. For no reason whatsoever. When asked to explain why he ignored it.

On April 09 2015 23:39 Holyflare wrote:
So in a bid to switch I said no, why don't you want to lynch eden. Then yamato got whiney. Then he caved. Then eden posted some drivel that seemed slightly sincere so I didn't want to switch after all and at that point it was too late to do anything.

On April 10 2015 07:05 ritoky wrote:
guy asks for explanation, gets explanation, ignores it.

On April 10 2015 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
I don't hold a grudge against you yamato. You led the town down the dark path of lynching a towny. It's frustrating and you're taking your anger out on me. I get it, you shirk your own failures onto the next best target that is under pressure. You're a coward. It's ok. I don't hold it against you. I'm not going to needlessly call you mafia for organising the mislynch and forcing people into it. I played a part in it to and I put my own resent for idiots ahead of a mafia lynch. I admit that. Shhhh now. Sleep young one.

I shall lead you to redemption.

On April 10 2015 07:42 Palmar wrote:


http://i.imgur.com/AJAwkQ6.png

You did scumread yamato at a time when all there was to read on him was tone reads. This means one of the following.

1) everyone is a dumbass and yamato is mafia
2) I'm awesome and you suck
3) I'm awesome and you're mafia
4) I'm TMI mafia and you're normal