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so what did we learn the last time we played? actually every time that we played! you just gonna sit back and sheep me | ||
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On April 07 2015 13:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: This guy is trying too hard to be town, thus he is mafia. /discuss i can't hear you over the sound of the wambulance | ||
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On April 07 2015 13:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't think you know how the wambulance works. yes your butthurtery requires medical attention and so i called the wambulance to pick you up | ||
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On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote: So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh. more reads more knowledge more winning why so sad? | ||
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Welcome to! Soon our teams shall be under way in what promises to be the most entertaining series of University Challenge yet! I'm your host Jeremy Paxman and with us today are bright young upstarts that hope to make a name for themselves in the most challenging game hosted on TL Mafia so far! | ||
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The Teams Since this is a University team based quiz you will need to be in teams. You may decide these among yourselves. Each team consists of 3 players, 1 of which will be nominated captain. Since this is a 12 player game there will be 4 teams of 3 and you will participate in a group based tournament style quiz. The rules of this quiz show will be explained once you have arranged your teams. You may also name your teams. Please have sensible names only as this is a prestigious show. Team A 1. 2. 3. Team B 1. 2. 3. Team C 1. 2. 3. Team D 1. 2. 3. | ||
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Will players that wish to join nominate themselves in the following format. ##Join Team A/B/C/D | ||
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The Teams Since this is a University team based quiz you will need to be in teams. You may decide these among yourselves. Each team consists of 3 players, 1 of which will be nominated captain. Since this is a 12 player game there will be 4 teams of 3 and you will participate in a group based tournament style quiz. The rules of this quiz show will be explained once you have arranged your teams. You may also name your teams. Please have sensible names only as this is a prestigious show. Message from game show host: Will players that wish to join nominate themselves in the following format. ##Join Team A/B/C/D Team A 1. Eden1892 2. 3. Team B 1. 2. 3. Team C 1. 2. 3. Team D 1. 2. 3. | ||
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The Teams Since this is a University team based quiz you will need to be in teams. You may decide these among yourselves. Each team consists of 3 players, 1 of which will be nominated captain. Since this is a 12 player game there will be 4 teams of 3 and you will participate in a group based tournament style quiz. The rules of this quiz show will be explained once you have arranged your teams. You may also name your teams. Please have sensible names only as this is a prestigious show. Message from game show host: Will players that wish to join nominate themselves in the following format. ##Join Team A/B/C/D Team A 1. Eden1892 2. ritoky 3. Team B 1. GlowingBear 2. 3. Team C 1. 2. 3. Team D 1. 2. 3. | ||
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The Teams Since this is a University team based quiz you will need to be in teams. You may decide these among yourselves. Each team consists of 3 players, 1 of which will be nominated captain. Since this is a 12 player game there will be 4 teams of 3 and you will participate in a group based tournament style quiz. The rules of this quiz show will be explained once you have arranged your teams. You may also name your teams. Please have sensible names only as this is a prestigious show. Message from game show host: Will players that wish to join nominate themselves in the following format. ##Join Team A/B/C/D Team White Crime 1. Eden1892 2. ritoky 3. rsoultin Team Tunnellus Maximus 1. GlowingBear 2. 3. Team C 1. 2. 3. Massage Salon Chantal 1. Koshi 2. obiwanshinobi 3. yamato77 | ||
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All players that do not vote for a team soon will be automatically placed in one by our Raging Nutty Geriatrics™ (RNG). | ||
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The Teams Since this is a University team based quiz you will need to be in teams. You may decide these among yourselves. Each team consists of 3 players, 1 of which will be nominated captain. Since this is a 12 player game there will be 4 teams of 3 and you will participate in a group based tournament style quiz. The rules of this quiz show will be explained once you have arranged your teams. You may also name your teams. Please have sensible names only as this is a prestigious show. Message from game show host: Will players that wish to join nominate themselves in the following format. ##Join Team A/B/C/D Team White Crime 1. Eden1892 2. ritoky 3. rsoultin Team Tunnellus Maximus 1. GlowingBear 2. 3. Team C 1. Damdred 2. 3. Team Massagesalon Chantal 1. Koshi 2. ObiWanShinobi 3. yamato77 | ||
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I will be on hiatus for the next day or so due to irregularities in the planning schedule. I will leave the rest up to my lovely co-host who will finalise the teams. The show will start as soon as feasibly possible. | ||
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##vote palmar ##vote dreadreturn ##vote eden ##vote obiwan | ||
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##vote palmar ##vote dreadreturn ##vote eden ##vote obiwan An addendum: DreadReturn must reveal his true information to fully participate and be amongst the champions. Obiwan is possibly interchangeable although at a stretch. Replacing two would be with vivax who plagiarised my subliminal messaging broadcast of obiwan and added me to the police watch list and Glowingbear who in total has posted a lot of nothing and has praised me for doing nothing when he is normally scum reading me for doing nothing. Palmar is 100% not a champion in any game of mine. | ||
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Also dr i explained my read on vivax. Not read the rest past then because what he did was terrible. | ||
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On April 09 2015 07:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Doesn't really matter; if he's playing a smurf then there's a reason he's smurfing. No, the reason isn't "because he's mafia" because he was smurfing before the game started. And then that's when he reveals and explains why he is smurfing. Gj fool. | ||
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This game setup is open. The possible roles and number of each role is disclosed here. | ||
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On April 09 2015 07:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: -.- You still haven't distinguished why my actions regarding your game were scummier than yamato's, nor have you explained why yamato is off your list. Nor have you explained where your Koshi read went. I never had a koshi read. You called me mafia and hadn't voted for me once the entire game while simultaneously pushing the shittest he's only done this once as mafia. While in that game i countlessly said i did it as town too (scooby doo in really small mafia) and then said you don't know who to vote. Only really bad people/mafia complain about someone being town read for nothing without concluding that the person giving the town read out is mafia. Yamato is just anti fun in life and came back and made a not terrible post where he didn't come to the right conclusion and vote eden. | ||
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On April 09 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote: Palmar is the aperture Blazinghand of this game with the added bonus of being mean and rude and not jokey like normal. He wants to try hard to find mafia but somehow only has gb as mafia for his one post. His only read was dr and that's just for being bad and nothing more. Not try hard at all just a lot of posts on 1 subject matter blown out of proportion. Lynxh with fire. You not very good player basically. | ||
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On April 09 2015 08:01 Palmar wrote: The fact that you think me wanting to kill GB is because of that one post just shows you're not even paying attention to the thread. Oh i have. Just because you don't "believe" his intentions align with his actual post (being funny when iy wasn't funny at all) doesn't mean it's still not just one post you are talking about | ||
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On April 09 2015 08:08 Koshi wrote: I just dont see what hf is doing here as mafia unless both gb and dr are both mafia. I have a slight scummy read on gb but he's claimed vigilante so willing to let it play out. I'm not going to stop a dr lynch unless he claims his name ever. | ||
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Also that post when it's crunch time and someone needs to be lynched before bed??? Baaaad | ||
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Dr you better name claim now. | ||
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On April 09 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote: I never had a koshi read. You called me mafia and hadn't voted for me once the entire game while simultaneously pushing the shittest he's only done this once as mafia. While in that game i countlessly said i did it as town too (scooby doo in really small mafia) and then said you don't know who to vote. Only really bad people/mafia complain about someone being town read for nothing without concluding that the person giving the town read out is mafia. Yamato is just anti fun in life and came back and made a not terrible post where he didn't come to the right conclusion and vote eden. | ||
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On April 09 2015 08:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote: By this logic, you are scumreading rsoultin, glowingbear, and ritoky along with palmar, myself, eden, and DR while concluding that yamato is town for being wrong about voting eden. \o/ Rsoultin town read me and put me to null. Towny response. Palmar yes scummy but he said i was mafia after and did nothing. You yes. Eden yes. Dr debateable. Yamato called eden scummy but his read on dr was stronger to him so that's a moot point because i actually agree with him. Congrats on poiting out who I'm scum reading! | ||
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About eden not dr being stronger | ||
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On April 09 2015 07:59 Holyflare wrote: Palmar that is. Dr i don't know about because nobody thinks him claiming his name is a good idea. He seems like nooby/honest town but only if you take it at face value. | ||
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On April 09 2015 08:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I said the same thing about rsoul and you called me mafia for not calling her mafia. Gb doesn't show up on your list at all despite doing something that would make you lean mafia on him. Palmar doing nothing is incorrect. I believe you are blind and ignorant and will flip mafia. | ||
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Tbh I'd be perfectly fine plynching you if you won't explain your read. I cba dealing with this kind of thing. You want to PLYNCH gb. You rage quit cz of a game that meant nothing really. You said I've only done this as mafia and defaulted to eden without ever continuing on me and said dnu who to lynch. You said palmar looked good in regards to me but then never defaulted back to me. You've really just done nothing and have no push on anything. All of it is "oh eden i supppossseee I'll unvote you when I'm home". "oh gb so obtuse policy lynch!" Not going to discuss this anymore because that's all I'm saying In the matter and people can just read your filter. Need to default to dr right now since euro sleeping. | ||
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On April 09 2015 08:47 Palmar wrote: HF do you think GB is town? I'm not going to lynch a claimed vigi on day 1 ever. Especially if that person has been afk for this period of time. It's a terrible reason to scum read someone for afking when they are usually high activity (me included) | ||
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On April 07 2015 14:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: How? He hasn't even done anything yet. @Rso: I have played a large number of games with Hf and I have never once seen him do this as town. On April 07 2015 14:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I literally just told you that the only time Hf has done this was the time he was mafia. It has nothing to do with it not following "mafia agenda" or whatever that's supposed to mean when someone starts posting nothing. Only as mafia. Lies. Why is gb only a policy lynch then and not a scum read? | ||
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On April 09 2015 08:55 Palmar wrote: You know that a) the claim was probably a joke b) Even if he is vigi, both teams have them. It's just as likely mafia vigi would randomly claim as town vigi. Like you literally just lost a game where people kept off lynching "blues" because reasons. He is scummier than the alternative so you lynch him. No he's not scummier than the alternatives because half your points on him are moot when you realise gb is bad and says that shit all the time. 9/10 people that claim blue at the very start of the game are town anyway so it's bad to make that connection with galaxy and I'm more than capable of looking past blue claims and scum reads to see their overall play. I don't want to lynch gb today so stop it. | ||
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On April 09 2015 07:30 DreadReturn wrote: HF, thoughts on Vivax? Nobody asks this question then disappears from the game if they are up for lynch and looking for a follow up. | ||
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On April 09 2015 09:05 Palmar wrote: hey HF, I hard counterclaim vigilante. So there we go, now you have to either lynch me or GB. we good with that? No because he's always been a likely vt. | ||
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On March 27 2014 21:52 Holyflare wrote: This is gold Quoted from champions game | ||
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On April 09 2015 10:18 rsoultin wrote: yo hf, was there any design to your game other than just having one for the sake of having one? inb4 ppl think i'm still mocking hf The game will continue when I am home. | ||
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On April 09 2015 10:14 Holyflare wrote: Someone please read obi filter and acknowledge me. | ||
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Read obi filter and my posts about him. | ||
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Briefly explain these: 1. Why did you rage quit the game. 2. Why did you not conclude any of the people were mafia who just town read me. (if you say you did you're lying). 3. Follow up to 2. Why was gb obtuse and a policy lynch but not mafia for not explaining? 4. Why is gb mafia now? Palmar still based entire read on gb's post to me and you and is now shovelling more stuff on while he afk's exactly like he tried to do to me when i afk'd. Will never forget. 5. Why was i always a scum read because i only did a game as mafia to you but you only wanted to vote eden and didn't ever ever vote me? Sentence on each please. | ||
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On April 09 2015 10:33 DreadReturn wrote: HF, if I'm scum I'm scum and you should vote me for it. Threatening to vote kill me for not revealing my identity doesn't make any sense if you are interested in killing scum. Unless you are of opinion that only scum would not reveal identity when smurfing? I'll lynch anyone that can get out of a policy lynch easily and won't because they are too stubborn to because most of the time they are mafia. Even if they are town it's super anti win con so i don't really care either. +you going after vivax who has posted the same as 5 cycles as mafia. I can definitely reach conclusions on you better if you reveal so plz don't be anti town for no reason other than your ego. | ||
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You rage quit the thread because people were town reading me. You lie about this gb read because after the policy lynch statement you THEN SAY tht you are starting to agree with palmar and gb could be scum. Rsoul only recently concluded i was null so to say you town read her before she said i was null is incredibly odd. | ||
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On April 09 2015 10:52 yamato77 wrote: he isn't going to, and policy lynching a smurf is a shit reason to vote someone make a real decision between actually viable lynches. His posting is mediocre and on one person and has no follow up to the questions he asked me which is why i want to know if he's a new player smurfing or not because it actually makes all the difference to my read. | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:02 Onegu wrote: Why aren't we lynching koshi? Like he scum reads me hen ever follows up until I'm null for no reason, he only has a five page filter no original reads and only 2 posts of substance. @eden you know my koshi read is on point, get on it unlike last time and lynching town Onegu instead... Read his filter seemed pretty towny. Few points for koshi to answer when he returns: Had eden as scummy, rsoul posted a list with eden as town and koshi next list has eden top town. Then koshi posts saying eden case on someone was scummy then talks to eden about gb like trying to convince a towny person.. Weird sequence. Explain. | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:19 Damdred wrote: Here's the thing, I feel really strongly about this lynch on GB. And the resistance against it to a point and the votes on GB piling up and then leaving makes me feel slightly better about pushing it I've been struggling lately with pushing things when I'm not entirely sure but I'm really sure about GB. I would like GB to be lynched today, consolidate with me Are you fucking serious? | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:15 Holyflare wrote: Like seriously what is this dr doing as the leading wagon just before deadline? Contemplating existence? Or just letting people try to derail and returning like 10 mins before deadline with either a claim or some other bs. Damdred/obi/palmar derail to the max | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You added GB to your mafia list, or at the very least, your watch list. What changed? Claimed vig, was reminded he was trying to keep my hidden reads secret, had awful posts like town gb. The only hesitancy was his read on me but he's afk and I'm not lynching an afk guy that talks a lot and can't defend himself over someone so anti town like dr. | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:30 Onegu wrote: This one but prolly makes him town to be this conceited... Well it's not the worst post in the game because it's true so get with the program. | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The only point of dr being antitown is the fact that he won't reveal his smurf, which is a null tell. Why is keeping your hidden reads secret towny and why are awful Gb posts towny posts? No that's not the only point. Dr has multiple instances of asking questions and not giving a shit about the follow up (see him asking me about vivax and not giving a shit about my answer on his return). Spotting my reads means he's actually looking at all of my posts individually and is very likely why he called me town (looking for secrets). Keeping them hidden and berating eden for making them public is like having a secret town circle with someone feeding you information as it goes along, making that public hurts the agenda. Gb is also awful and makes awful posts as town. +he's afk. | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:36 DreadReturn wrote: What's with this unrealistic expectation that I'm glued to the screen until deadline hits? If I'm here I'm here, if I'm not I'm not. GB has been absent for a good 22 hours so I'm inclined to think that I might just be dead wrong with my initial read so ##Unvote Vivax ##Vote GlowingBear I still think Vivax is a stronger scum read though. Defends gb all game, afking shouldn't change that, gives bogus reason to switch to next leading wagon when correct votes pile up. Lynch with fire. | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:37 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure why the read has to change when I've been gone necessarily on Eden. Eden did scummy things I left came back Eden was doing more scummy things like that post about defending GB I still hate that post. GB is my top scum read I want him lynched Your scum read on eden was that he had no posts with content which has blatantly changed so your read should have completely changed since the initial stance. | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:41 DreadReturn wrote: What's to followup here? "No, Vivax isn't worth it, let's kill him"? Give everyone you can meta read a pass? You aren't talking about Vivax's actions beside post count, which isn't really addressing my case at all. Reveal name or die. | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:46 yamato77 wrote: It's not SL, I don't believe it for a second. Too many words/post. Too many coherent sentences | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:53 Holyflare wrote: The guy literally flipped his strongest town read for no reason even though nothing has changed since all his posts spent defending gb. This was only when the gb wagon had sufficient support enough. "hey guys before i address nothing I'm just going to vote on my town read because nothing has changed! - but vivax is totally mafia - bye! " | ||
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On April 09 2015 12:03 DreadReturn wrote: Whatever. If this is what the next hour is going to be like, I'll just afk so the thread doesn't get more cluttered with speculations. Call me crap all you want, but if you really want to win, start organizing your posts. Reread the thread, you can feel free to ignore me, whatever I don't care. Hold Vivax and HF accountable for tomorrow, make sure they don't skate like they did today. What the fuck is wrong with you. You literally don't care about the game if you are willing to hold your smurf private and there won't be words from me post game because I've given you an easy out to stop me talking about all this shit but you just perpetuate it for your own non reasons. I've also spoke about obi 10,000 times and he's your only real scum read that isn't vivax but instead you just whine about personal smurf identity and not talking about him with me. Vivax can EASILY be town here, your points aren't that great at all. Just like GB he has great potential to show that and he is asleep and gb is afk. I don't want to lynch them when i think they are slightly towny for varying reasons. | ||
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On April 09 2015 12:14 DreadReturn wrote: HF, I got nothing. My strongest read I have is on Vivax. You said it sucks. Ok. Next is you. I guess you think that sucks to. Distant third is Obi, and only by process of elimination. I'm not going to fabricate reads. I have him as scum because I have everyone else slightly more town than him. As a point of morale, if you actively shut down what I bring to the table, what makes you think I want to keep engaging in conversation with you? What can I even bring? Why wouldn't anyone want to just ignore you? Basically there's more than one mafia in the game and if you're incapable of looking past that to talk about other reads then you need to brush up on that fact. It's also super crazy to scum read the guy giving you a free out. | ||
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On April 09 2015 12:17 yamato77 wrote: We ARE NOT lynching Palmar. The lynch is now between DR and Vivax, since both of them are around to show their alignment. EVERYONE follows me when I make my choice. Never following you then. Only one of them is policy now because his fu post was quite sincere and the other I'm just not lynching. | ||
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On April 09 2015 12:26 yamato77 wrote: We shall stay the course then HF is definitely pretty high on my scum list for tomorrow given how he's acted about the lynch today. And how is that mr wizard? You just said you don't want to lynch dr and yolo vivax which means your scum read vanished and now you want to definitely split the lynch between the 2 and refuse to acknowledge any other read. Pretty poor town leader. | ||
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On April 09 2015 12:35 yamato77 wrote: you two are a pair. You're the one that wants to lynch your biggest scum reads scum read cz yolo. Pathetic. | ||
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On April 09 2015 12:35 Vivax wrote: So HF, we have two vig claims in GB and Palmar? I guess so? Don't really believe gb is a vig though | ||
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On April 08 2015 07:07 Eden1892 wrote: New list, maybe probably last post before mtg tonight. I will maybe try harder when I get back from then, sorry my posting hasn't been great so far just haven't gotten into the swing of things yet I guess. 1. Damdred (Damdy wamdy): Seems like town!Damdred from what I remember. I might just be being lazy and missing inconsistencies in his posts but whenever I read his stuff it seems like it checks out. Searching and motivated early which is a good sign. 2. Koshi (Koosh ball): Tonally reads like town!Koshi to me, not seeing the productivity or the "on switch" for him yet. I feel like he probably will flip the switch at some point but I reserve the right to lynch him if he doesn't 3. Onegu (1gu): Literally don't even care, remember nothing but him posting lyrics. Dude just tends to troll and shit and get POE lynched late, hopefully he'll do something silly like claim mason in a way that can't possibly be scumread so I can read him. 4. ObiWanShinobi (obi trice, real name no gimmicks): Gets points for being the only motherfucker calling me mafia with the balls to put a vote on it, even though his reason was meh and I don't remember him doing much else. Not enough points to be town lean though. 5. GlowingBear (GB): I guess at some point I'll read what he said. If 4 people wanted to vote him over it then it must be important. But nothing he said really caught my attention the first time, seemed like some pointless nitpicking at Palmar but idk. I didn't read closely. zzz 6. DreadReturn (+ Show Spoiler +): This guy just posted and it sounded ok, which is great cuz otherwise I didn't remember he was even in the game. It seemed earnest though, he looks like he gives a shit. 7. rsoultin (+ Show Spoiler +): Count on it. 8.Palmar (Ram pal): I actually get this bad feeling in the back of my head that Palmar trying hard early makes him mafia, but his posting actually seemed pretty townie and I would much rather Palmar do this from now on so I'm gonna reward it with a townread. Seemed like he had a good direction to what he was digging into (although I admit I don't really remember much of what he was digging into lol). It was around p15-16, maybe later I'll go find what made me think this. 9.Vivax(Viv): What a wuss. 10.Eden1892 (Eden Stevens) 11.ritoky (Tokyo city? I got nothing): His gifs early were funny but he hasn't done anything yet. Having now seen a few of his games as either alignment recently I think I can get a good read on him in time. 12.yamato77 (Weapon Refit): Also a wuss, and it feels like he's doing a lot of grumpy posting without trying to fix the things he's grumpy about. Take with a grain of salt though because literally the exact last time I accused him of this he was town :/ I had him as italics red which is scumlean but thinking over this more he should probably be null. I'm not good at reading yamato but I don't like his early posting. 13.HolyFlare(Not DP): I generally like the arguments he's made so far and I look forward to the game show!!!! This post could possibly be the worst list post I've ever seen +eden 4 pages? +not helping at deadline +general mehness | ||
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On April 09 2015 12:40 Vivax wrote: Can anyone explain to me why they suddenly tr DR cause he starts breathing reads just before EoD? Nah read my post on him it was pretty scummy his reasoning for switching to gb. Damdred stuck in time warp static field. | ||
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On April 09 2015 12:36 Holyflare wrote: You're the one that wants to lynch your biggest scum reads scum read cz yolo. Pathetic. Out of his scum reads dirty butt! | ||
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On April 09 2015 12:53 rsoultin wrote: lolol what we'd give for a shotgun xP well if y'all don't have anything new I need to see right this second dreadreturn is an okay lynch i'd prefer vivax but whatevs hf stop pretending scum can't buss -_- i'm not amused What the hell does this even meaaaan? When did i say scum couldn't bus? | ||
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There is no way yamato believes it to be a bus. I have no idea what he was thinking and will heavily interrogate him for it. | ||
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On April 09 2015 12:54 Holyflare wrote: Btw don't have to make this any more obvious than it is but if you are town vigilante and palmar hard claimed it shoot him no matter what and don't claim till you do. | ||
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On April 09 2015 13:08 Holyflare wrote: If you're a town vig and not palmar shoot palmar. If you're a town vig and are palmar shoot damdred. Jk save the towniest person you know. *cough* rsoultin | ||
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On April 09 2015 13:11 yamato77 wrote: Should have switched to Vivax. So yeh why did you want to switch to your biggest scum read that you pushed forevers scum read? | ||
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On April 09 2015 13:12 Damdred wrote: Seriously that's fucked up I hope the big does shoot me so that next time you ask me to consolidate to give you your lynch I'll quote this and say fuck you again. What's fucked up bro you tried to lynch my mafia partner gb. | ||
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I honestly fail to see how this a shit question and not highly relevant. | ||
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On April 09 2015 13:19 Eden1892 wrote: if you could do that who would you do it on? question goes for everyone in the thread actually Nobody answer this plz and thank you. | ||
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10/10 would vig again | ||
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"no u suck i gave read thread" | ||
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On April 09 2015 13:13 Holyflare wrote: I honestly fail to see how this a shit question and not highly relevant. | ||
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2. You were/are in my main list of scum reads and so pushing gb based on absolutely nothing was bad, especially as he was afk and you tried to do the same thing to me. Looks like trying to bury someone and you can't be fucked to look elsewhere cz free town mislynch. I still stand by the fact your little interjections of "reads' mean absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. I also outlined WHY i thought gb was scummy (town reading me when usually scum reading me) and then i was reminded of reasons why it was towny so that's also redundant as he wasn't a scum read anymore. 3. At first it was a policy to get him to name claim and then it turned into a scummy read. My thought progression is outlined quite clearly in my filter showing that. He didn't follow up on questions to me and then he afk'd (and he did eventually say he lurked during the game on purpose) while scum reads obi/damd who had no good reason to say the things he was saying started pushing on gb. 4. That's not the only reason at all and shows you aren't reading what your scum read says at all. In total it's a pretty pathetic attempt to fling shit at me. I'm also going to get you shot because i am never letting you escape from HARD CLAIMING a blue to cc someone for no reason other than to get them lynched. | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:53 Holyflare wrote: The guy literally flipped his strongest town read for no reason even though nothing has changed since all his posts spent defending gb. This was only when the gb wagon had sufficient support enough. There was also this ^ On April 09 2015 11:12 Holyflare wrote: Read his filter seemed pretty towny. Few points for koshi to answer when he returns: Had eden as scummy, rsoul posted a list with eden as town and koshi's next list has eden top town. Then koshi posts saying eden case on someone was scummy then talks to eden about gb like trying to convince a towny person.. Weird sequence. Explain. Koshi answer plz | ||
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I'm not actually adverse to doing this | ||
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On April 09 2015 21:34 Palmar wrote: Like your accusation of me is basically exactly what you did. When DR flipped his read on GB (which wasn't scummy at all, even if you make it out to have been) you had been locked in on him for a long time. Because he asked me a question about vivax and then just didn't care about answers. He was peripheral, he didn't follow up at all and that post was pretty scummy. It's also nothing like I've been doing because I actually have scum reads on more than one person based on more than one post that isn't a blatant misrepresentation of that person. | ||
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On April 09 2015 21:55 Palmar wrote: And none of this made him scum. He sounded like a towny which is something you admitted and I noticed. Yes and nobody wanted to lynch you or obi so I couldn't do anything in the 5 minutes he left us. | ||
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If you are unclear with any of the points that I used to counter yours then please go ahead and ask for clarification. I'm not asking for an argument, I'm asking for a civil discussion where you try and push my mislynch and I prove all your points wrong at every turn. Failure to do so means you have no further points. Thank you for your cooperation. | ||
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On April 09 2015 22:14 Vivax wrote: HF your game still running? When I get home on like Saturday. | ||
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On April 09 2015 22:55 rsoultin wrote: hf, real question man what's the difference between a bad case and a case made by scum? like, seriously, the number of times you vets bring up "omg his case on me was so awful" as a reason to scumread someone is mind-numbing, so what am i missing? cause my knee-jerk reaction to that is...so? A case made by scum is bad, full of flaws, twists the truth and refuses to listen to points raised against the case to discuss them. Full of ad hominems too. - palmar A case made by town can be flawed but if disproven the towny is forced to look at the facts and reevaluate and discuss those points. If it's a tunneled towny then that's a bit harder but they are generally much more reasonable to other people talking to them about it. How many times have I said the case against me is bad and that makes them mafia? Think it's only been against hts and she was mafia and jat and he was mafia. Gb made a case on me that was terrible but i still thought he was town in that last mini. Generally people that make cases against me when I am town are mafia or super silly town and you know which one I think palmar is. He's pushed blatant lies so it's up to someone that is not me to talk to him about it. | ||
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On April 09 2015 22:12 Holyflare wrote: If you are unclear with any of the points that I used to counter yours then please go ahead and ask for clarification. I'm not asking for an argument, I'm asking for a civil discussion where you try and push my mislynch and I prove all your points wrong at every turn. Failure to do so means you have no further points. Thank you for your cooperation. | ||
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If gb flips town every ad hominem attack you've used on me (pushed a mislynch and alternatives being town) are equally applicable to you. They also mean nothing because townies are often wrong and you've entirely based this on a pre flip association. You tried to hard claim to force a lynch on someone I don't think is scummy at all. That's not policy that's scummy as fuck. Note the words. HARD CLAIM. | ||
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On April 09 2015 23:25 Palmar wrote: Yamato wanted to lynch Eden? That'd have been a much better lynch than DR. No he switched to eden with like 30 seconds to go because I told people to switch to eden because yamato was calling for a scummy switch between his scum read and his scum reads scum read for no reason and wasn't being direct enough in a town leader position. | ||
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On April 09 2015 23:32 Palmar wrote: I still haven't read like the last 5 pages before the lynch. Who did yamato want to lynch? Yamato's biggest scum read was DR. DR posts list read and people get shaky, me included. Yamato yells that nobody should switch and the lynch therefore has to be between DR, his biggest scum read or vivax, his not really scum read who is scum read by his biggest scum read hardcore. For no reason whatsoever. When asked to explain why he ignored it. | ||
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For pushing an afk gb before he's had time to talk when I think he isn't very scummy at all and meta + general town meta of people claiming vig at start of game. +your only other scum read at the time being me for afking and having "sure reads" on people when I'd only posted for a few hours at the start of the game and wasn't really participating all that much. Basically your scum reads are shit and you refused to acknowledge anyone else as scummy. Your play entirely focused on gb's post about me and obi (yeh great you threw in some town reads here and there when everyone else did, magical) and wasn't that great to continue pressing. You said you want to try hard this game and find mafia but weren't doing that in my eyes at all. Despite what you say you've been doing. When I returned all you did was keep piling more and more things onto an afk gb which he couldn't defend and which you could have easily mentioned during the entire game in a bid to get him lynch. Now you admitted that you fake claimed vigi in order to also push for his lynch. Also your push on me which clearly outlines that you did not read my filter at all. I outlined why i scum read gb and furthermore why i then town read him later and it's all in my filter but you selectively ignore points like those in a case against me. Mafia agenda. Then when disproven you bypass the initial arguments and instead attack me for pushing a mislynch. You divert any reasons when they fall flat back to the same point which doesn't make any one person mafia ever. | ||
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Seemed towny all day until the vivax/eden situation so just want him to explain his thought process before anything happens. | ||
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On April 09 2015 23:53 Koshi wrote: Vivax/HF/GB Really. It aint hard. 33% definitely wrong | ||
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Oh and giving weird elaborate reasons to switch to gb (oh lots of resistance must mean he's mafia!) when the people resisting weren't even his scum reads. | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:25 Holyflare wrote: Because the points on gb aren't good and this dr guy is anti town as all kinds of hell and not following up anything and not even responding at all while the scummy people in the thread derail it to gb. Damdred also says there's sufficient pushback to his gb read but doesn't explain how this makes gb mafia in the slightest and is an incredibly weird way to ohrase a reason to scum read someone. | ||
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On April 09 2015 23:57 Holyflare wrote: If anyone can scum read me after I've been nothing but open then they are mafia or just pretty terrible. Also in a bid to move the game forward I will be ignoring any further palmar accusations both against me and towards him. All the information is already out there. | ||
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On April 10 2015 01:01 Palmar wrote: I'm town and I completely ignored your game and would never have caught your links. How does that fit with your theory? Quite well :p? And it's not that all townies read it it just adds points for the people that find it. Especially if they try and keep it on the down low. | ||
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On April 10 2015 01:20 GlowingBear wrote: That's my only question for now as I am still catching up. Your answer was very dodgy. Pick a team now please Lol I'm not sure you understand the game correctly at all. I'd pick c and add vivax because he does science stuff. | ||
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On April 10 2015 01:23 Damdred wrote: A 12 hour nap and I'm not among the living. Stop twisting things I've said hf my change on Eden was explained at least once and you still give wrong facts. I'm so glad that I can't be frustrated because once again nobody will listen to me and il scummy for it. I'm getting to work in a fee minutes after some coffee I haven't twisted anything you've said. You said eden was scummy for doing not much at the start of the game. I asked why it hadn't changed when he started making lists and things and you told me it was because of his read on you and because he still did scummy stuff early. Which I don't buy at all because his read on you wasn't that bad and was shared by quite a few people and your early read should disappear when he did stuff since it counteracts your points. You're stuck using old points and it's scummy. Especially your read on wanting to switch to gb based on resistance from people you don't even scum read. You've also ignored pretty much anything anyone else is talking about, it feels like you're talking past people rather than interacting. It's quite obvious why there's a difference between gb who had been afk for 20 hours and had good points going for him being town and was pushed solely by the scum reads I had vs a guy that was actually in the thread and asking questions that lead nowhere and then switched to the person he was defending when the wagon on him was large enough + got on my nerves for not revealing his identity and having the cheek to say it was my fault. | ||
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HF was looking town until his game thing wasn't the thing I thought it was. His defense on me is weird and his push on Dread is completely off. Lunching the guy because he didn't reveal his name is silly. And by lunching him, he keeps me alive and the discussion wether I'm Mafia or not goes on. In the other hand, his attempts to tease me by calling me useless and awful sounded townie, since he knows I'm sensible to that shit and if I'm town I would be on his neck for this. This attempt to uncover my alignment looks townie to me. So, I have to evaluate him better. I literally just told you that WAS my intention with the game and you're saying it wasn't? I also did not lynch dread because he didn't reveal his name, I lynched him for being scummy and then because there was no alternative with such short time. If I were to perpetuate the you being called mafia argument I would be feeding people as you being mafia but I'm not. I also don't like your Palmar point because he didn't have double standards he scum read you for not portraying what you think you were portraying with the initial post whereas Eden was nothing like that. Obi read is based on weird shit that isn't even relevant. Damdred is an on read but meh. Your reads are pretty lackluster gb it's not really based on like... points in the game at all, it's a bit hypocritical that you're saying palmar is mafia for picking on only one post but then you are calling him mafia for one post with double standards | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:28 yamato77 wrote: HF literally typing absolute lies into the thread at this point: Bullshit. Would you mind quoting your uselessly shit posts where you attempted to split town between 2 targets when one of them was your scum reads biggest scum read for no reason and then get mad whenever someone questions it? Or would you like to requote the part where you shut down all my attempts at that vote switch? Or would you like to quote where i tell people to actually switch to eden but then he posted something that made me stop? Nah didn't think you would. I'll do it for you though and can perfectly explain my thought process while you have not. | ||
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On April 09 2015 23:36 Holyflare wrote: Yamato's biggest scum read was DR. DR posts list read and people get shaky, me included. Yamato yells that nobody should switch and the lynch therefore has to be between DR, his biggest scum read or vivax, his not really scum read who is scum read by his biggest scum read hardcore. For no reason whatsoever. When asked to explain why he ignored it. On April 09 2015 23:39 Holyflare wrote: So in a bid to switch I said no, why don't you want to lynch eden. Then yamato got whiney. Then he caved. Then eden posted some drivel that seemed slightly sincere so I didn't want to switch after all and at that point it was too late to do anything. Deadline summary in a sweet sweet nutshell. | ||
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All these "bull shits" and stuff are just people somehow saying that I'm lying about my intent but not disproving how. | ||
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On April 10 2015 07:05 ritoky wrote: guy asks for explanation, gets explanation, ignores it. I asked for an explanation from obi not you? :p yours just said null though and i don't mind being null because i can see how you arrive at that from what you've listed, it wasn't that awful and certainly wasn't irrational like these people. Yamato seems to have an irrational hate for me all game. | ||
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I shall wait till sensible people return. | ||
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On April 10 2015 07:07 Holyflare wrote: I don't hold a grudge against you yamato. You led the town down the dark path of lynching a towny. It's frustrating and you're taking your anger out on me. I get it, you shirk your own failures onto the next best target that is under pressure. You're a coward. It's ok. I don't hold it against you. I'm not going to needlessly call you mafia for organising the mislynch and forcing people into it. I played a part in it to and I put my own resent for idiots ahead of a mafia lynch. I admit that. Shhhh now. Sleep young one. I shall lead you to redemption. Does this look like i scum read yamato at all palmar? You even asked if i did and I said he was towny all day. Why lie again? Pretty shallow list of reasoning for everyone you have their palmar. | ||
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Vivax best shot Damdred probably good shot Palmar mafia Obi probably mafia Someone in that list is wrong but being bad so don't really care. If you wanna yolo you can yolo gb. Shooting me will solve nothing other than mafia palmar/obi etc agenda and as you just saw palmar is ready for the field day my flip will bring. Damdred is stuck in the past. Made a big post on him about his reads not fluidly updating. Don't know if afking in part due to being mafia or not but feels off and not cool damdy. Obi's only scum read in this entire game is apparently me (and gb lolololol yeh can see that from his 0 reasons) and he flat out refuses to explain why about me to anyone. If I die make him explain his read. If it involves anything in Palmar's case lynch him with absolute fire because he scum read me before Palmar's case and those events even happened. Vivax absolutely a waste of space and when threatened with vig shot trolled and his only scum read is... Ritoky....? Get the fuck outta here. Palmar is pushing false information. Really just read his case and then the events of the deadline. He says I'm just pushing my interpretation of events but that's not true. He selectively pulled out quotes from my filter to fit his mafia narrative case and left out all the quotes where i perfectly explained myself. Check out his you scum read gb and then town read him for no reason thing. I had so many reasons that I repeated many times. Check it plz plz plz. Never ever follow yamato. Pick someone with a sensible list like rsoul. She has a good game sense and jk should absolutely be on her tonight. Her list was one of the ones I agreed the most on. Don't lynch rsoul/ritoky/probablyonegu/koshi was completely absent today but townyish d1 so don't let him fall off but otherwise keep him here Be absolutely wary of yamato since he is pushing me for palmars case but he was the one commandeering the dr lynch and forcing people onto it too. He said he'd try hard as any alignment and last time he tried he got town read all d1 by people but was mafia. Eden super underwhelming but not really sure if mafia at all. Seems pretty carefree to be mafia at the moment. Gb list post was super mediocre and contained barely any relevant game info but it's hard to hate it when all the scummy ppl pushed him and it kinda aligned with my/rsoul list. | ||
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On April 10 2015 07:42 Palmar wrote: http://i.imgur.com/AJAwkQ6.png You did scumread yamato at a time when all there was to read on him was tone reads. This means one of the following. 1) everyone is a dumbass and yamato is mafia 2) I'm awesome and you suck 3) I'm awesome and you're mafia 4) I'm TMI mafia and you're normal ? Nothing you say has any relevance if I scum read him 1 hour into the game and now I don't really? | ||
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Please just go away. Nothing you are doing here is achieving anything other than annoying me for no reason. It's a clear mafia agenda to inhibit my play and berate me for no reason because it stops me actually playing. | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:10 Palmar wrote: yamato thinks you're mafia too. If we're both town HF, we have basically thrown this game. We should be made to play a newbie game to repent. No because I'm visibly trying to solve the game and you're just running out back and | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:12 Damdred wrote: I'm high as hell right now, who knew the steroids and other medicine would cause you to feel this way but I'm awake. I'll be here roughly until eon if anyone has any questions I'll try to get my analysis done by then. I answered your questions. Where did they lead you? | ||
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People don't believe my palmar read. I didn't list you as mafia. It's clearly to make palmar and obi look more scummy and actually start looking at my reads with some weight behind it. The more you talk about the stupid game the more and more you drop. I don't think you're really actually reading the game. | ||
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On April 10 2015 10:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I outlined my read already. I engaged you earlier on and you basically blew me off and ignored everything that I told you. Then you dropped all of it and now it's "scumreading you for no reason" even though you made it obvious that you didn't care about anything I was saying to you in the first place. My alignment, in your eyes, is completely irrelevant and that is scummy. No i responded to it. You told me lies. You never scum read rsoul and gb at all because of their stances like you said you did. I called you out on that fact in the filter. Twice. You then pushed gb who is town which was scummy shit because mafia palmar made a terrible case on him. You've closed up and been shit. I would talk to you about this all night if you said a single word about it. I would point out all of the quotes if you EVER brought this up. You didn't. Ever. You just sit back interjecting with sarcastic shit saying nothing all night and somehow that equates to your read. | ||
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On April 10 2015 10:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I never lied. Someone fucking shoot this guy. Yes you did! | ||
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On April 09 2015 08:56 Holyflare wrote: Only as mafia. Lies. Why is gb only a policy lynch then and not a scum read? | ||
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On April 10 2015 11:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote: No I didn't. Learn to read you scumfuck. Whoops :p | ||
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On April 10 2015 11:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I didn't actually shut anything off. I explained everything and you flat out refused to listen and tunneled me over things that didn't really exist. You can die. How featured are you in any of my reads? How much do i elaborate on my read on you? How many times did I ask you to just explain yourself and instead YOU were the obtuse hypocritical fuck that refused to reexplain something that is obviously so apparent to you. You have literally wasted your night being a tit because you can't open yourself up to exploring another avenue of a game. Oh holyflare tunneled me at lylo? Shocker, I've never done that to someone ever. Bill murray last fucking game. Talk to me when it's not a stressful situation where i have to spend time diverting mafia palmar pushing his mafia agenda on town gb. | ||
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Rsoul probably went after mafia damdred/vivax though so it's cool. Onegu was on my side so it's cool. Ritoky has own opinion so cool. Vivax sides with palmar and is mafia so that's cool. | ||
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On April 10 2015 11:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I skimmed your filter but I see "mostly lies" but I can't seem to connect the dots as to why Palmar can only be mafia for pushing on you. He took my posts and fit them to a mafia narrative and ignored the answers i gave a few posts later and in his narrative states "hf never gave these answers". This does not indicate a person is reading their scum reads filter at all but rather trying to forge a read on someone. Much like his read on gb who he tried to mislynch while afk. He focused on one post and nothing more. There is no lighthearted palmar like usual town palmar in this game. He says it's because he wants to try hard to find mafia but not once in this game has he ever reevaluted a read. He's not concerned with that at all. I even gave him gb meta that he makes posts like that as town all the time and he ignored it. He even tried to lynch gb by claiming vig for no reason whatsoever. Palmar was trying to do anything possible to get his mislynch and then uses people mislynching dr as a basis to scum read me but not anyone else even though mislynches are just human error and to anyone that read the eod i explained what went down entirely. He doesn't budge and multiple times just re enters the thread to provoke me and nothing more because he knows it will get a reaction. | ||
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On April 10 2015 12:03 Damdred wrote: So in my list HF I have Vivax, Obiwan and GB as my final triad. Who would you take out and put Palmar in for in that situation? I'm not sure that i'm wrong necessarily it reminded me a lot of Horns when he went after GB like he did, and when he went after you thinking town v town it looks a lot like how he went against Marv at points in XXX to me. I can see town Palmar doing this. I would remove gb and read my post on palmar. Gb's night posts have felt a lot better don't you think? Obi has potential to swap with eden but I'll have a ponder on that for a bit. | ||
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On April 10 2015 12:07 Onegu wrote: Cuz people didn't listen to me until my flip. Sounds familiar... But if we listened to you all the time we'd soul read and hard defend mafi too :pppppppp | ||
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On April 10 2015 12:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why doesn't anyone ever townread me when I'm town? I don't get it. Soooo... You gonna indulge my palmar read? | ||
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Idk hf I could see town palmar saying that and believing that about you. Explain how a towny can make that case when the answers to everything he called me mafia for are like single posts away from all his quotes? Wish i was on pc to show you that crap. I even point it out to him and he says it's my opinion and can't take word for it... What the shit is that? | ||
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Cross out all damdred bits. Follow. | ||
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Love this song and pretty relaxing. | ||
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On April 10 2015 12:41 rsoultin wrote: gut mostly i liked his one reads post but at eod he was all over the place and when i asked him why he suddenly wanted to lynch vivax he couldnt give me a reason. the reentrance to thread after the flip was delayed and unnecessarily angry given dr was his lynch to begin with yall want to give him easy townreads and i know his town game can be shit but eh...something just feels off He was universally town read as mafia last fecalfeast game. I still don't know why he called me a shitter for asking a question about that vivax thing. It should be pretty easy ti answer. First read post still pretty good though. | ||
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On April 24 2015 13:30 Damdred wrote: Ty all for the compliments on a well played game, like hf saying ik terrible as town. It really made me happy. When did i say this? :o??? Well played btw! | ||
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On April 24 2015 18:58 Holyflare wrote: When did i say this? :o??? Well played btw! Ohhh dude it's when i responded to marv's post about gb, not you! Gb just terrible town! :D:D | ||
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