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On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote: i might or might not be scum any thoughts? You're kidding me. That's scummy as hell. What kind of person says "oh hey guys huehuehue I might or might not be scum derp". Vote: prplhz | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Everybody has little scum inside them. What the bloody hell does this mean? | ||
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On April 10 2015 07:46 Soren333 wrote: You're kidding me. That's scummy as hell. What kind of person says "oh hey guys huehuehue I might or might not be scum derp". Vote: prplhz Everyone might or might not be scum. So asking this is just stupid. | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:19 Bourneq wrote: Sorry again the phone.. It does not help me gain any information of any kind so I am not bothered. You need to question the motivation behind his question. What do you think is prplzl's motivation behind asking that question? | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:22 Bourneq wrote: I could not hear his tone over the internet. Oh pls | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:23 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I dont want to tell you my dirty secrets  Not sure if being playful but by not wanting to reveal anything screams scum. Not that I would believe you even if you did reveal anything, maybe a claim, but doubt still remains of course. | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I hope our cop or vigi is guud. I don't want to die :| What has cop got to do with you dieing? What has vig got to do with you dieing? Are you baiting the vig to not kill you? What the hell? | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: They scout for activity, if no activity they get no info. If it spot activity it usually says who he visited. What do you mean by scout for activity? | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:43 plotspot wrote: Ok, now that the roles are out for everyone. How are we going to drag the opponents out of the shadows? Haven't read any suspicious things or anything that gives away anything. Poking with words in the shadows will really help? Town read as this newbie is trying to learn how to scum hunt. | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:57 plotspot wrote: Ok. Then I vote according to alphabet. #VOTE Ace1312 You have 47 hours left to prove your alignment.^^ What is this? Voting for someone who hasn't even posted yet and asked in the vaguest way to confirm someone's alignment. It's day 1. You can't prove your alignment. At all. Not now at least. Bad vote and bad questioning methods. | ||
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On April 10 2015 07:06 Ace1312 wrote: Yay, game start. I'm excited to read up When I get home from work. I like the enthusiasm. Hope to see good posts from this guy. | ||
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On April 10 2015 07:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: ##VOTE prplhz Reason? | ||
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On April 10 2015 07:13 Breshke wrote: Sup guys This is awkward timing but i'm not sure if him lurking is alignment indicative yet. Is there a reason behind this? How is that lurking? | ||
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Are you really hinting your role to me. | ||
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On April 10 2015 07:53 plotspot wrote: Really now, you must be psychic to infer some sort of alignment from such a post. ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha Our voice is one of town's most poweeful tool to scum hunt. Not only that, we need to interpret people's post and uncover the lies and catch slip ups to catch scum. I see nothing wrong with my post other than stating what I find scummy about it. | ||
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On April 10 2015 07:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Wow Soren is really digging old things :D Cant we let past be past? Digging up old things? Judging from your second sentence I can safely assume that you're implicitly implying that me digging old things is bad? Why is it bad? Why let past be past? First of, I wouldn't call them old things. Game started and I haven't posted till now, therefore I shall offer my thoughts as I play the catch up game. And secondly, let past be past means you're just going to ignore everything that everyone has already said. In that case, how will you evaulaute someone's actions and words and determine if they are scum or not? | ||
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On April 10 2015 07:56 Onegu wrote: So I was planning on trying hard but then I rolled town so no I'll try one semi hard. In before that's what she said... Also moment Found something interesting. I don't like this at all. Claiming town does nothing at all. You can't just expect us to take you're word for it can you? Scum read. And what's this interesting thing you found? | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:01 Onegu wrote: Really I almost read it like he wants to hide from activity... Why post this here In the thread? How is he hiding from activity? He wants to learn how to scum hunt. | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:09 Tubesock wrote: It's like you're making an excuse already not to. You haven't questioned anyone. I think you just don't care and already have the game figured out. Do you have any town reads, anything? Yup. Strong scum read on dwarf right now. ##Vote TheBloodyDwarf | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:11 Breshke wrote: I'm intrested that you find this scummy yet go on to tell someone to think about motivation. Could you explain to me what motivation scum would have to post this? He seemes to just be drawing attention to himself which i do not think is scummy. Also @Thebloodydwarf I asked about your vote because random voting is w/e but im under the understanding that it is done to apply pressure. Yet you voted someone who was around and posting and actively trying to produce content with people. This leads me to think that you simply voted to just fit in with other people doing it. It's scummy because the question is pointless and he asked it just to appear as though he's trying to do something in the game. | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Wow this guy is hardcore. He is like failed psychiatrist. Never got his papers out of the university. I think you.are trying too hard :D Already using bad logic against me. Calling me a failed psychiatrist so as to discredit the validity of my posts. | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:13 Breshke wrote: He seemed to suddenly appear right after someone placed a vote on him. Even if it isnt a coincidence I don't think its scummy depending on weather he is someone to be intimidated and not know how to enter the thread before that point. The reason why I think it's not lurking is because he didn't respond to the vote. If he did respond to the vote it would mean that he was reading the thread but hasn't made any post. Thus he would be lurking. On the contrary, his opening post is acknowledging that the game started, suggesting that he just checked teamliquid to see if the game started and it did, then commented that he will be posting once he gets home. | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:19 prplhz wrote: so soren333 where did you play mafia before? Myanimelist Mafiascum And I also played one game on teamliquid before. | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:25 Breshke wrote: Do you not think he actually achieved doing something? He seemed to be trying to drive conversation forward. Yes the question in itself doesn't actually scumhunt but making conversation does so i don't see it as pointless. I like your vote on dwarf thought and think it is weird that he picked prplhz to random vote out of everyone and would still like to hear any reasoning he has for that. Ok I'll agree that it isn't entirely pointless and it does drive discussion. But it's driving discussion in the wrong direction. Which means were going to be wasting time answering his question. Which is pretty scummy. | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote: prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^ 100% town? The only way anyone right now that can be 100% certain that someone is town is if they are mafia. | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:34 Breshke wrote: I get it could be a coincidence with his arrival in the thread. I also don't think that coming out of lurking at the very start of the game is necessarily alignment indicative when you are a new player. Basically I don't care anymore with it was lurking or not because ive decided it isn't alignment indicative because i think as a new player no matter of alignment a vote being placed on you would make you post in the thread. I like that you're not pursuing this any further because it's not alignment indicative. Therefore town read. | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:40 Breshke wrote: I see this differently to you. It was the start of the day any conversation is useful. In a 48 hour phase i feel it is hard to waste time. I feel with this follow up post it shows that he was actually trying to get conversation going and was disappointing when no one seemed interested in interacting with him. Whether 48 hours is a lot of time is debatable. It just all depends on the activity of players. Mafiascum can have like 25 days phase length for a day phase. And majority of players only post once or a few times a day there. Anyways, teamliquid has a very active mafia community so Im not too worried about activity here. | ||
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On April 10 2015 09:39 Half the Sky wrote: EBWOP - Re Soren's TR, I'm getting that tryhard attitude from him, and despite him potentially misreading some of the newbs because they are newbs, he's coming across tryhard enough to not really have an agenda. Is try hard a bad or good thing? What do you mean by not having an agenda? | ||
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On April 10 2015 09:55 Bourneq wrote: Well to explain the "paralysis" like I said I was in the middle of a movie at the time and just posted to say hi. I was going to wait to delve deeper into the game for an hour to finnish the movie. I geniunly did not understand what you meant by "tone" but I realise now it was obviously not the tone of his voice. That did make me look pretty stupid I agree but I dont understand why that makes me mafia. The tone of "I could be mafia and I could not be, any thoughts?" too me is: Hello im mafia wanting to blend in. But since I am so new at this I am scared to draw conclusions and I udnerstand why that could look suspicious. Ohhhhhhhhhhh so now you start to talk about the tone. Why did it take two thousand posts before you spoke up? Too scared to draw conclusions? Only mafias have to be scared and/or careful with what they post in the game. | ||
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On April 10 2015 10:07 Onegu wrote: I claimed VT there and here only claimed town as far as you know, big difference until I do it as mafia also... Regardless, claiming town offers nothing at all. | ||
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On April 10 2015 10:11 Breshke wrote: How do we know you don't always claim town as mafia if this is a new thing I like the act of pushing. But this actual push is bad. | ||
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On April 10 2015 10:18 Onegu wrote: Ok from now on I'm going to put + Show Spoiler + sarcasm What the fuck. So you're saying that your post was sarcasm? What the bloody fuck | ||
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On April 10 2015 12:59 Tubesock wrote: Anyone still around? Breshke and Soren are my town reads so far. BloodyDwarf still scummy till he produces. He is boarderline too scummy to be scum but most his posts make me itch. And not in the good way. ##Vote:TheBloodyDwarf Plotspot I'm trying to read but I just don't understand a couple of his posts. Like several other people I'm wondering how he towned Prplhz so fast. I could be twitchy too since it seems in many games the mafia like to insult to convey passion or whatever (Plot calling Onegu a fucktard). What's the town read on bresh? | ||
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On April 10 2015 14:49 jarjarbinks wrote: Initial reads based on first readthrough. My limited gameplay tells me to make sure we don't forget about Ace. There always seems to be a lurker on the mafia team. That being given you could throw me in that category too. He provided enough information to provide information, but did he say that much intuitive? My sister's good at this game so don't town her too fast. Limited prodding at first. Could be because she wasn't around to prod early game though lol Sorren's prodded the most and gotten the most cred for it so it seems. HTS has been in here off an on and seems like she's pretty active and making reads. Her reads kind of align with vet skill at the time though, at least her town reads. Dwarf was hilarious. He probably should go like read the rules or something lolz Defense against sorren to me looked like he was butthurt, but not alignment indicative imo. He needs to defend himself though. More in depth analysis tomorrow after work. Should give you guys plenty of time to see if any of your reads match up with what I come up with tomorrow. Quick go over of plot (bothered me the most but was confusing). Post thoughts in a sec. Your sister? | ||
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On April 10 2015 16:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Looks like I have to bit explain myself. After reading this I think my posts make more sense. This is not sc2 arcade mafia. I thought day 1 is just day for chat. Nothing happens before somebody brings evidency to table. Also I didnt know its insta lynch who gets most votes. So pretty much my day1 posts mean nothing. I felt like everybody is chatting (felt for me) and then suddenly Soren333 starts replying to those chatty posts. I thought it looked really funny and he even asked questions that I answered later but before he asked again. Also I didnt know that scum means mafia. I realized scum means mafia way way later. "Everybody has little scum inside them" Isn't that just like some IRC chat? like talking to friends? Nobody trying to be serious kind of answer. Why I voted somebody? Looks like you have to vote everyday or you get kicked out of the game. (again this is not sc2 mafia..). I just voted fearing maybe I forget or don't have time to vote and admins kick me out. Why fear of death some ask? Well, I want to play this game and not to die? "I hope our cop or vigi is good". Again, I was expecting cop to give some "evidence" to table and then people discuss is that person trustful and can his claims even be possible. But that's all wrong. Looks like you make your presumption based on chat. With feels quite weird to me now but I am noob playing this mafia for the first time and some here are experts. So I have to see how this works out. So I think I have time to rethink who to vote so, ##UNVOTE Acceptable. So my entire read on you is null now. Great. You still had poor reactions, I'll remember that. | ||
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On April 10 2015 20:24 prplhz wrote: soren333 what do you think about jarjarbinks defense of bloodydwarf? i think it was pretty good. especially 1 1. Saying that someone loses a logical standpoint more and more seems to come from scum than townie because scum obviously clammed up and lost his shit. However, considering that dwarf came into the game without reading the op and was under the influence of sc2 arcade mafia, this is understandable. 2. I think he did vote. 3. Makes sense. 4. He got attention, but I don't see how this is a reason to town read him. | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:49 Soren333 wrote: 100% town? The only way anyone right now that can be 100% certain that someone is town is if they are mafia. Time to change my vote. ##Vote plotspot | ||
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On April 10 2015 20:45 prplhz wrote: i can support a plotspot lynch but i'd rather lynch bourneq What's your scum read on him? | ||
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On April 10 2015 20:49 Bourneq wrote: What are you talking about? I talked about it several times already. I would not draw a conclusion from that original comment if I was town nor mafia. You could at least draw an opinion or assumption. | ||
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On April 10 2015 20:52 prplhz wrote: read his filter and tell me one thing that makes him look either town or scum instead he spends all the time making non-reads and only when prodded, not on his own. scum don't want to contribute and that's exactly what he's doing, not contributing. say what you want about plotspot but there's more townie in his filter than in bourneq's filter. plotspot is at least trying. i agree that his 100% read is super weird but at least it's a read. Oh that's right. He either only posts when people prod him or when someone votes him. That's hella scummy. ##Vote Bourneq | ||
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On April 10 2015 09:19 Bourneq wrote: To get back on track thebloodydwarf has been using some really weak arguments and acting generaly scummy. He also made a very generic comment on dwarf where he didn't point out the really weak arguments, nor did he point out the generally scummy things. Seems like he just wanted to say something in order to fit with the general opinion at the time. | ||
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On April 10 2015 20:54 Bourneq wrote: Here more specifically and not two thousand posts later neither. You are making some really poor arguments here. + Show Spoiler + On April 10 2015 06:33 Bourneq wrote: It did not make me think anything. Now that you ask it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion. On April 10 2015 08:32 Bourneq wrote: The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information. But voting for me to be lynched out of me not making any quick judgements on you seems harsh and a stupid thing to do as town. You're also contradicting yourself since you said it did not make you think of anything. | ||
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Prplhz what do you make of his response? | ||
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On April 10 2015 22:59 Stutters695 wrote: So this game started apparently. What's up guys? A lot is up, go read. | ||
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On April 10 2015 23:33 Onegu wrote: Prplhz I actually like this post, wouldn't lynch him today for this post Eh, basing a read on a single post is bad. | ||
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On April 11 2015 02:31 prplhz wrote: welll i'm just going to drop bourneq for now he's beginning to put in some effort so maybe he's town who knows. anyway, i'm not getting anywhere with it so i'm just going to drop it. and waffling means not having any strong opinions. You offer so much "generic opinions" but never really explain them to a certain extent. | ||
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On April 11 2015 02:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I wanted to be ...damn I had that word in my mouth but now I lost did.... mysterious!! Also, It feels really weird if somebody is replying to "old" chatty messages. At least it feels like that for me if somebody replys in whatsapp group to something "old". But this isn't whatsapp  First off, what are you on about with the word in your mouth. I have no idea what point you're trying to make there. Secondly, why is it so weird to respond to old messages? And does the weirdness of that warrant a town/scum read? I can see why it's weird on whatsapp because you're replying to an old conversation and since you've become accustomed to it, that custom also transfers here. But this is a mafia game where you're suppose to go back and look over what people have said already. I don't see you finding it weird when players read other player's filter. | ||
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You made him angry. | ||
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On April 11 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote: ? lol this is a strange comment prp our alignments are dependent on each other or what are you saying? It is a strange comment. Prp is scum at this moment. Asking pointless questions to appear as town, pushing for lynch that are not well founded and making weird comments. | ||
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On April 11 2015 02:38 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I swear to god I readed most of the texts before signing up but somehow I managed to miss couple of things  Or I just have really bad memory  I don't blame you. No one reads an entire book and is able to regurgiatate all its minute details. | ||
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On April 11 2015 20:53 prplhz wrote: bah i don't feel like interacting with you about this and i don't think i'm even going to be considered for lynch but whatever can you quote/explain the pointless questions and explain why the lynches i'm pushing are not well founded and quote my weird comments and explain why they are scummy I'm happy that you asked. I'm playing catch up on my phone right now. But when I get on the pc in a few hours I'm making a case on you. | ||
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On April 11 2015 02:41 prplhz wrote: btw, can people please stop voting for someone who is doing odd stuff because he wants to look mysterious? that is really not scum behavior. Now who are you talking about in particular? Who exactly is voting for who for doing odd stuff? And why does someone want to look purposely mysterious? How does that help someone as town or scum? And why is it not indicative of scum? | ||
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On April 11 2015 02:46 rsoultin wrote: lol >< assuming that saying someone doesn't want to lynch someone based on one post on day 1 means they're hard townreading someone isn't particularly good either, soren xP Indeed sir. | ||
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Explain please. You're isolating your read from a single post and ignoring everything else that they posted. How is that not a bad read? A read needs to be supported and backed up by other evidence/post so that it strengthens your read. | ||
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On April 11 2015 03:01 prplhz wrote: dunno if you're my top townies right now but you seem alright and if you agree that's probably a good sign maybe bloodydwarf is my top town read but i'm not sheeping him Now why would you sheep a weaker town read than your top town read? | ||
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On April 11 2015 05:07 Stutters695 wrote: Bourneq: You listed myself, onegu, rsoultin, prpl, jarjar, ace and Bloody as null/scummy. That's obviously too many people to be scum and we can only lynch one today. Ignore Ace (assume he's dead either way for this question), who do you lynch today and what makes them scum? Anyone else here? I like this post. Stutters is addressing the problem at hand. If you have too many scum reads then you're doing it wrong. | ||
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On April 11 2015 05:12 Bourneq wrote: I only count 2 people I put as scum. I said I was leaning towards this or that on some people but I did not list them as scum. Oh never mind, stutters misread it. | ||
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On April 11 2015 07:04 jarjarbinks wrote: My point on 4 was comparing Dwarf to plot. When Dwarf went crazy, people jumped on him. Not everyone, but enough people I would say. When plot did it? Pretty much disregarded until I mentioned things. I would think that mafia people would be more hesitant to jump on their partner. Again, not a strong point but most of my points weren't that strong. Let me check the vote thing. I might have been wrong lol What did plot do? | ||
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On April 11 2015 07:43 plotspot wrote: whoa a post from the past.^^ How should I answer this. There is a world of mind. A world of speech and a world of action. I certainly said prplhz is town, I think his early initiative and throrough way of examination befits that of a townsperson caring for the town. about Dwarf I don't know, looks like a victim so far. Onegu? 70% town. I think the host screwed up. Everybody is town^^. Or he is lazy giving out the roles according to the order on the front page.^^ This should be easy. Man don't read anything from this, I just enjoy the game ok?^^ I mean I observe, this game it really helps to know the posting style or habit or a person. I really cringe at some conclusion about me, you are all paranoid.^^ Ok, I don't have the super reading powers. I just know that Half the Sky and Soren thinks 100% that I'm town. Make of it what you can. Wait. I didn't call him scum. I think you are awfully suspicious for talking like you know I'm 100% town. That's my original quote I only said I considered switching my vote, because he made 2 strange mistakes, like wanting a voting thread or saying I didn't explain myself to prplhz when easy checking could have confirmed I did. It was very early in the game, but why am I explaining things, isn't the uncertainty what he is obvious in the quote? Where do I even begin with this horrendous post... | ||
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On April 11 2015 16:09 rsoultin wrote: List of awesome! Solid town Prp - pointed, fluid reads, not his scum range Prob town breshke - the devils advocate stuff plus early scumreads jjb - insights, paranoia toward me rings true lol >< need more interaction tho to put him w/ prp maybe town hts - can move up once clears up prp read progression bourneq - active, like the fluff thought process but the changing narrative on prps entry bugs me null tube - too few posts, content fine tbd - gut says newbie town floundering but he has literally nothing in his filter stutters - pending clarification, posts gen okay but again too few scummy oneg - tonal lol cant shake it ace/shining - would be null if not for the wall text post i didnt like soren - the dropped scumread and activity falloff bugs me >< also that i feel like i should be tring hom for his early posting but im not...something feels off lynch w/ fire plot - bs meter, lack of anything substantial in filter this late in day 1 ##vote: plotspot wifi went out again -_- meh this is prob my vote unless something jumps out at me in the morning How in the world is prp a solid town? | ||
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On April 11 2015 17:46 Tubesock wrote: So, I have this fascination with trying to read difficult/cryptic players. Players like Alakaslam, Sicklucker, Chezinu, and LightningStrike. It's dumb, but I absolutely love playing with those guys. I fall into big traps though, like finding deep meaning into statements and their word useage and once I think they are scummy I really get into confirmation bias. I'm really confused on TheBloodyDwarf. He hasn't done a single towny thing yet. He's blatantly ignoring requests for any type of read and isn't helping town at all. I mean it's so anti-town that mafia would at least try to fake something. He's not even doing that. He like doesn't care at all, he's trying to act as scummy as possible it seems. He made some posts which made me unvote him. At that time I was thinking he was basically softclaiming Vet. I didn't want to pursue anything and I think others were thinking the same thing. It would obviously defeat the purpose of him being vet. While at work i was thinking about him a lot. It just bugged me. A vet would play towny right? The entire point is to make MAFIA shoot you. But then you also have to avoid being lynched. And he's obviously not doing that. Then my tinfoil hat deflected an alien interrogation beam. TheBloodyDwarf is Godfather. BloodyDwarf comes from SC2 mafia arcade. So it's safe to say he plays SC2. He presumeably found TL mafia from the SC2 forums. He's not dumb, he's probably the more hardcore gamer type. TL Mafia does seem like the harder core version of many versions of mafia I think. So, he's fucking smart. He's not playing poorly at all. If he is Godfather, he KNOWS the setup. He knows if there is a cop/doc/vigi/vet. The OP says mafia knows. Reread his filter, doesn't it look like he's trying to make people think he's vet? "Don't shoot me" "I hope cop/vigi are guud". Yeah, he wants to make it look like he doesn't really know the setup but is telling the cop to check him so he returns town. He then knows who the cop is and mafia get to kill him. And he is basically confirmed town who gets to live at least another day. He softs vet knowing people probably won't push him since an outed vet is sooo bad for town. He then doesn't have to act towny. But in order to get cop checked he has to act really scummy so that the cop will check him over other question marks. Holy shit this is an amazing play. My tinfoils may sound crazy and stupid but holy shit in the 3 games I've finished I nailed at least 2 scum each time. Both were the strong mafia guys (Holyflare and Geript from Carol and Joat). What other scenario explains how TheBloodyDwarf is playing? The more I think about this the more I believe. Where are the holes in my thinking? Holy tits | ||
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On April 11 2015 18:34 Tubesock wrote: The cop check request: Another possible softing to cop check: And another: This is more interesting. And really instigated my tinfoil. And what I REALLY need feedback on due to my overthinking at times. He leaves out doc and vet. This seems to me to be the soft claim. It's retarded I know, but I think the spelling "guud" is absolutely intentional. And: Maybe overthinking, but damn..."mindgames", "guud". Like it's in the weird obvious but not obvious realm. I think he's mindfucking us. He's goddamn Godfather. Like he really really wants that cop check to bring his "evidence" to the table. Like holy shit. Plus, he has done absolutely ZERO scumhunting. He's overtly and covertly trying to get the cop check. That's his entire goal so far. You're a God. My vote is staying on dwarfy. | ||
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On April 11 2015 18:53 prplhz wrote: this is super debatable but what isn't debatable is that sc2 arcade mafia players in a newbie game would never do this. anyway, COP SHOULDN'T OUT HIMSELF TO GIVE A GREEN CHECK. What about in a MYLO situation tho. | ||
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On April 11 2015 20:47 prplhz wrote: you quote posts and make superficial one liners Is that a bad thing? | ||
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On April 11 2015 21:09 Breshke wrote: Soren when you are on PC can you give me your top like 3 or so town with reasons please I'll do something of that sort. | ||
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On April 11 2015 22:32 rsoultin wrote: O.o Tube moving up lol but dude i think you may be high on something xP not a huge fan of narratives anyway. yours at least had me laughing? dwarf could you please give reads? even if you like arent sure on any of them? prp read is in part knowing him but mostly the nature of his posts. hes aggressive, has made some sharp comments/observations, and his reads adapt to what is going on in the thread rather than remaining static lol you...returning to prp scumread after its poinyed out that you seemed to drop it, plus some of those posts that are pure commentary...id be happy to lynch you today >< what do you think about that? I think that you're interpreting it in the wrong light. | ||
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On April 11 2015 23:37 Soren333 wrote: For some reason I prefer playing/browsing & using this site on my phone than the computer. I'll just read on my phone and type on the pc. | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote: i might or might not be scum any thoughts? So first of prplhz starts of with this crap. I've stated before and I'll state it again, everyone might or might not be scum so what's the point of this question. It's pointless and drives a pointless discussion. The only way this is redeemable is that prplhz wanted to start some discussion by asking a question, but asked the wrong kind of question. I'm not sure if prplhz is a newbie or not, so if someone can clarify that with me that'll be great. Anyways prplhz what were you even trying to do with this question? So I scumread prp for scum from this. But between this and the next point that I'm going to make, prp hasn't exactly done anything noticeably scummy. On April 10 2015 20:52 prplhz wrote: read his filter and tell me one thing that makes him look either town or scum instead he spends all the time making non-reads and only when prodded, not on his own. scum don't want to contribute and that's exactly what he's doing, not contributing. say what you want about plotspot but there's more townie in his filter than in bourneq's filter. plotspot is at least trying. i agree that his 100% read is super weird but at least it's a read. Moving on, the next odd thing started with this. I thought it was a reasonable read and went with it. On April 10 2015 21:11 prplhz wrote: nothing he is prodded he shows up and says whatever more of the same But then what irks me is this tunneling. This is falling back on confirmation bias where prp is interpretation new information in a way that confirms his initial hypothesis (the initial hypothesis being that broune is scum), while ignoring information that disconfirms his initial hypoethesis. The information that disconfirms his initial hypothesis (the hypothesis that bourne is scum because he only ever posts when prodded or when someone votes on him) as explained here: On April 10 2015 21:01 Bourneq wrote: Because the game started at 23.00 yesterday at which time I was busy. Then spending my last hour barely awake trying to get my first reads on people. The first thing I did this morning was to ask questions that had nothing to do with me being proded or voted on so your argument falls flat. Of course my posts will be centered around me when I am the first one to be voted for, and there for I have been proded a lot. Am I not suppost to respond to questions or what? And that first morning post that Bourne made without being prodded is shown here: On April 10 2015 18:54 Bourneq wrote: Good morning! Dwarf I am interested in how you did not know what scum means. It is meantioned twice in the OP and twice in the followup post right after. Seeing how you missed the part about editing it makes a bit more sense since you obviously did not read the thing. But under coaches for example it says Town: Scum: It is pretty hard to missunderstand what scum in this context means. As a fellow newbie I understand you could be speaking the truth but did you really not read the OP? So the problem I had with this is that prp ignored information that disproves his hypothesis and interprets it instead, in light of scum reading bourne. Having said this, prp is not being stubborn so he finally redeems himself with this post: On April 11 2015 16:24 prplhz wrote: would you rather i continue to push bourneq for doing things like voting someone, giving an excuse for why they could be town and then saying he isn't even his biggest scum read? because people don't like that so i'm going to try to drop it. now we're going in this direction and it's fine. And after reading most of prp's filter, the main scum read is that question he started with, and a scum read based on something so trivial isn't worth a scum read at all given the rest of his post. Having said that, prp isn't exactly being the best town either. He's making a few comments here and there, but nothing really insightful nor with depth. I'm not sure what he meant with stop scum reading people that are purposely trying to be mysterious and I also see a lack of motivation from a town point of view as he wants to sheep the siblings. But at least right now, he's not screaming scum at me. So my read on prp right now is between "prp is so bad at playing scum that he must be town!" and a town lacking motivation. | ||
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jarjarbinks - offers a refreshing outlook to the game. I'm liking the posts he's making. Read his posts and you'll think the same. Half the Sky - another person I enjoy reading because I see a townie mindset behind their posts. Now many having been saying that he's a vet so this wouldn't be hard to fake. But at the very least, he's not doing anything scummy at the moment. Tubesock - he's a god for noticing that about dwarfy Null reads (the null reads here are mainly that I either having been much attention to them or they haven't posted enough for me to get a read on them): Stutters695 Breshke Onegu - leaning scum but honestly haven't paid much attention to him rsoultin prplhz - bad scum or just bad town Ace1312 - the thing with ace is that I think he's inactivity is genuine and is not indicative of scum at all. However, whenever he does post he just says shit like "lol guys dont lynch me just because im inactive okay lolololol". That irks me because it seems overly defensive. Defending himself for inactivity without even being suspected yet. And his large post was just regurgitating a general consensus of the situation at that time, which on one hands seems like a scum appearing to be contributing, on the other hand, maybe ace was indeed short of time and just simply had the same line of thought with everyone else too. So I don't think this is indicative of scum either. Bourneq - lean scum because the majority of the time he only posts when prodded. But that could just be because he's new and doesn't really know what to post about. Scum reads: plotspot - his 100% town read is immediately indicative of scum because only scum can be 100% sure if someone is town at this point in the game. Has also been waaaaay too fluffy with his posts. Like he's saying ridiculous shit just to filler in between his unexplained points. TheBloodyDwarf - read tubesock's case. And also dwarfy is barely contributing at all, not offering reads and just not doing anything significant. His earlier posts are weird and defensive. | ||
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On April 12 2015 07:00 Half the Sky wrote: That's quite the reaction there. Any thoughts on EoD? i haven't read the past few pages. was busy for the past few hours. | ||
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I god read a scum lolololol9lololol. | ||
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On April 18 2015 06:20 jarjarbinks wrote: soren why'd you leave? I thought you were playing pretty well lol and yes it was all a ruse! lol Busy IRL and this game is hard to keep up with. I wake up to 10 pages everyday. Takes two hours to go through everything. If I didn't replace out would you not have killed me/Holyflare? Judging from the qt it sounds like it. | ||
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