Newbie Student Mafia VII - Page 3

On April 14 2015 11:03 Breshke wrote:


I was voting him because of some comment he made in which he basically softed power role. He seemed to ignore the question when he first came back yesterday so that made me even more intrigued but i like his recent answer and am willing to let it slide until next day phase.

##Unvote

I currently want to lynch bourne but i need to read what rso wrote about him again and also read your case on him.

Also i think it is safe to infer we have a etup with a veteran and not a medic as noone has claimed roleblocked meaning scum most likely roleblocked HF which they would only do if they feared he was a vet. Or maybe a vigi but i find that less likely.

On April 14 2015 12:24 Tubesock wrote:
anyone around?

On April 14 2015 12:25 Breshke wrote:


Lol do you play scum really badly? If so we play scum the same

On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:


I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too.

In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then.

Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon.

On April 14 2015 14:00 Trfel wrote:
So far, I'm not impressed with TheBloodyDwarf at all. His play is clearly not towny, there is no question of that. I guess I could see him being a stubborn SC2 Mafia player who is new to a forum mafia environment. But then, he clearly stated, in bold, that this isn't SC2 mafia. From there, I expected to see him attempting to play the forum mafia style (not necessarily succeeding, just attempting). And I haven't seen that at all yet.

His late vote without explanation pushed him from null to scum lean.

My current lynch pool is as follows (no particular order):
TheBloodyDwarf, Stutters695, The Shining, and Bourneq

On April 14 2015 23:42 Breshke wrote:
Is thread dead? Ended up going to a friends and the night got away from me. I should probably go to sleep so i have a chance of being around for the deadline but i feel that the way these days have been progressing with many people seemingly holding back their votes is bad for town. Not scummy as ive been doing it myself but it is hard to see where people stand and i feel it is harder for scum to buss or whatever if everyone is actually voting.

That being said I hate that stutters seemingly has little time to play yet when he is in the thread he makes posts like these.





He does not explain anything. Yes he wasnt immediately prompted to do so by someone yet if you cant stick around to interact and talk about these things why not just post your thoughts not shitty general comments. This being said I WILL NOT be voting stutters today and im probably going to regret it.



This post again i kind of like from bourne as it is actually about stuff that is happening this phase and the last sentence is a good observation. Once again shows at elast some critical thinking about the game.

Heres where i start to feel really dirty.

##Vote Theshining

This is third placeholder third because he has promised stuff yet not delivered anything and a third because i don't like the other options

Im aiming to be awake in 5 hours so hopefully see you guys then

On April 15 2015 00:52 rsoultin wrote:
meh i kinda want to lynch stutters not gonna lie -_-

which is why i keep asking you why you don't

i just...meh i had the same problem with soren who flipped town but lol >< the one-liners with no explanation is bugging the shit out of me. he says he doesn't like day 1. okay fine and fair enough. it's day 2 now

stutters why is it so difficult to say why you don't like truffle's post?

On April 15 2015 01:15 Trfel wrote:
It's relative....

Someone like Holyflare is probably the most aggressive. He'll see one post and hard push that player with apparent 100% confidence. Prplhz isn't a player like that. From reading the thread, the impression that I got was that prplhz was leading and driving things along for most of Day 1. His exact tone and wording isn't always very forceful, but when you look at the ideas that he presents, you can see it.

For example, here is the way he treated the vote switch to Stutters695 on Day 1. Most people consider this progression suspicious.
Here is the first post he makes. I believe that he is the first player to suggest leaving the plotspot lynch (I'm not going to go back tons of pages to double check, but he is at least one of the first). At this point, the vote count was very heavily in favor of lynching plotspot (7 on plotspot, 0 on Stutters695). I know that the way he phrases it is a request, but this also makes some sense, since without the support of others he can't actually change the lynch. At this time, Half the Sky is the only person in the thread, and she refuses to switch, so prplhz drops it.
Prplhz also posts his explanation for why he would prefer to lynch Stutters695 over plotspot, and the way he arrived at this read feels towny enough (though that's an issue for another day).

At this point, I would be suspicious of prplhz. Asking one person to switch and then not doing anything when they don't switch isn't very impressive (still something town does all the time, but isn't a very good play). But then Tubesock comes back, and says that he doesn't want to lynch plotspot. Prplhz immediately jumps and asks him who he wants to lynch.Prplhz seems to be more interested in not lynching plotspot than lynching a specific player, and that's fine. Still, despite asking who Tubesock wanted to lynch (Tubesock initially said TheBloodyDwarf), prplhz still argues for a Stutters695 lynch. Then Tubesock shows desire to talk about plotspot and Stutters695, as well as a lack of confidence in lynching plotspot, so it can be assumed that he is willing to lynch Stutters695. And Half the Sky rereads Stutters695's filter, and said that she understands why he is scummy (implying willingness to lynch him). Prplhz immediately switches his vote, the first one to do so.

Prplhz isn't posting huge walls of text or screaming with all caps, but he clearly made a decision and put effort into getting people's attention and making them listen to him. In some of his posts, his tone felt very wishy-washy, however if you look at the consistency of his play, and the context for when he said what he said, he's actually very solid in his decision. Despite the way he asked players to switch votes and seemed willing to follow them wherever, that isn't what he did, and it's obvious that prplhz was leading the thread through this period.

Were plotspot scum, I could see an argument being made for prplhz being scum because of these actions. However, with a flipped plotspot, these actions aren't inherently scummy, and I feel that they are consistent with the rest of prplhz's play in this game.

This is one example, but I feel that prplhz played a leading role throughout Day 1. I'm used to prplhz playing a more reserved role; while he always participates in the thread, this is the first time I have seen him consistently leading. And that's why he is a confident townread.

On April 15 2015 04:20 Tubesock wrote:


I can see it both ways. That's pretty damning. But then I think about how I thought about Plotspot. He reminded me of my first game and how I acted before I was mlynched. My reasoning to leaving Plot was simply to get another day with him. He certainly wasn't being very towny. And I think town!Prplhz could have felt it wasn't going to be a big enough loss to justify more effort.

My level of town protecting is directly proportionate to how towny I think that person is. Isn't yours?

On April 15 2015 05:26 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

Im just waiting to see are you guys going to lynch me so I can do my final post and waste my vote.

On April 15 2015 05:44 The Shining wrote:


100% is a pretty strong number.