TL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy

On March 09 2015 12:17 Half the Sky wrote:


1 sicklucker
2 Vivax
3 rsoultin
4 Toadesstern
5 LightningStrike
6 Tubesock
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(More added as needed)

Replacements
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Observers
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Sitouts
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Shadows
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On March 14 2015 04:30 Half the Sky wrote:
Fecalfeast, it's a large normal, and knowledge of the film is not required. I know you played Carol, this is along the same vein. Large normal, heavy flavour.

Obi, I have knocked it back to the 18th (the soonest) because of St. Patty's Day. If it had started the 15th, EoD would have been on a day a sizeable amount of players couldn't have been around.

I'd like to get minimum 20 before we start (which is what Imperial had I think), so that's 8 more minimum, should be able to muster that and more in the next five days.

I will send confirm PMs out before we begin.



Also Holyflare.....ha, ha, ha. I can't drink as I'm training for a marathon and my training distances most of this month would make drinking impossible. So, far from it.

On March 14 2015 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Well it's a heavy drinking day in England and the game got moved cz of it so confirmed alcoholic

On March 14 2015 12:51 Fecalfeast wrote:

What does being 15% irish matter? If he was insulting people with whom you don't have common ancestry, would you not say hey?

On March 14 2015 15:31 Toadesstern wrote:
well to be fair, that's not particularly far off for what I've heard.

On March 15 2015 04:50 Palmar wrote:
guys i'm icelandic. my ancestry is icelandic. is this ok?

On March 19 2015 01:04 marvellosity wrote:
I actually really like big games. They provide a (welcome) different dynamic to minis.

On March 19 2015 08:15 Palmar wrote:

It's okay, I'm just using a motivation strategy.

It's the same reason I always tell my wife that "This food you cooked is not so great". I only do it so she keeps trying to get better, the food is actually delicious.

I see it as a favor to her.

On March 19 2015 08:18 Holyflare wrote:


also mafia

that's 2 now


mafia list

slam
toad

On March 19 2015 08:19 Toadesstern wrote:
god damn it, "Fear not for" and not "for not for"... don't type and play boats at the same time

On March 19 2015 08:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Meta says Slam is probably scum for being so serious from the start.

On March 19 2015 08:33 Holyflare wrote:
Disregarding all meta, your vote is far too serious for anybody of a towny persuasion.

On March 19 2015 08:34 Eden1892 wrote:

So you agree with me that rsoultin is town and that I am town too

On March 19 2015 08:43 Holyflare wrote:


then you should be voting for the majority target of alakaslam instead of being tedious and annoying

On March 19 2015 08:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think I may just sheep HF all game.

On March 19 2015 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Slam, true or false:
Alakaslam is known for playing in a much more serious manner as mafia than as town.

On March 19 2015 08:47 sicklucker wrote:
Slam you look pretty terrible bro. The omgus didnt help

On March 19 2015 08:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Then why do you scumread HF for using meta that has been correct thus far?

On March 19 2015 08:52 Trfel wrote:
Anyone remember this?

On March 19 2015 08:59 Holyflare wrote:


you think my serious allegation was a post that had the word "mafia" solely in it?

On March 19 2015 09:02 Holyflare wrote:
cool tings slam

anyway, did toad really just disappear?

On March 19 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote:




liar

On March 19 2015 09:08 Holyflare wrote:
So here we have actual reasons that slam is mafia:

a) Full of crappy bs
b) confirmed lying reasons for voting me

On March 19 2015 09:06 Holyflare wrote:



^^^^^ This is the ONLY other post that I posted since that post slam,

On March 19 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote:


No. Let's break this down instead of you being an obtuse lying asshole.

I post once that you are mafia, highlighting the post that made you look mafia to me based on previous meta and meta that is generally used in finding mafia and townies that I use successfully in almost every game I ever play. I then post again highlighting a post of toad's that looked like a mafia post.

THEN you vote me. Highlighting my post of my list of 2 people (you and toad) saying i'm not this bad.

I actually misread your post about wifom because I thought you were applying that to me using wifom about yourself instead. So really you misread the entire situation and called me mafia because you thought I was voting you for wifom reasons.

I clarify these reasons are because it is about your TONE of seriousness, your over defensiveness and seriousness again. You then update DO NOT UPDATE YOUR SCUM READ TO RECTIFY YOUR ERROR and instead continue on like I initially voted you because of some wifom which is not the case.

You can clearly see my error in misreading the highlighted because my post explains that my case is based on your meta and disregarding that is based on seriousness, hence why I agree with artanis post.

YOU DO NOT UPDATE ANYTHING EVER.

WHy is this slam? Why are you trying to derail any attempt I had at pushing anything and instead fling shit in my direction when I was being the most productive asset here. You don't even comment on the toad thing which is actually very good indeed.

On March 19 2015 09:23 Holyflare wrote:


This answers absolutely nothing. If you are trying something new and trying to be productive (what I assume your ramble at me was trying to be) then you should absolutely be up front with me. Why did you not update your first vote when you saw the actual reasons that I was voting for you?

On March 19 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote:


Please outline this to absolutely everyone. Where is my wifom? I thought your post was too serious for slam meta which is a useful heuristic and even if it's not anymore it's a valid general heuristic at the start of the game. I vote you. You vote me for a misunderstanding, thinking I'm voting you for you talking about what you do as mafia. When I clarify it you try and shovel more shit on me instead of admitting flat out you were mistaken. You are still trying to do that.

Why.

On March 19 2015 09:31 Holyflare wrote:


No, I didn't ignore it. In fact I responded to it directly here:

On March 19 2015 09:34 Holyflare wrote:


i'm just going to ignore you then because you are just stubborn and will continue to act like this the rest of the game

On March 19 2015 09:46 Holyflare wrote:
why on earth do you want to lynch sl if you can't read him at all slam???

On March 19 2015 09:49 Eden1892 wrote:

"not against"...? bruh he lied more than once rofl

On March 19 2015 09:57 Holyflare wrote:


hey guess who caught it you twat

On March 19 2015 10:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like seriously....?

"I am not agianst SL lynch."
"why are you not against an sl lynch"
"because i want to lynch you!"
"I'm not reading the thread because i'm so certain on hf!"

^ somehow you know you want to lynch sl (for unknown reasons still because you didn't even answer me) and you ignore the entire thread where you might be wrong on me even though i've found this guy lying twice AND QUOTED IT

and NOW you are trying to get people OFF of SL because I am pushing it WITHOUT EVEN READING THE QUOTES OR GAMES YOURSELF


wtfh slam

On March 19 2015 10:09 Holyflare wrote:


summarise it for me quickly so i know you aren't lying

On March 19 2015 10:19 Toadesstern wrote:

bringing it up in the first place was stupid. The answer itself seems okay. You don't care about how it looks unless you're mafia, you just post. You can make a case that it's talking about things that don't matter but I think he'd be more likely to keep it short as a mafia in that case simply because he'd be much more aware of it in that case.
In this case he doesn't give a fuck and just posts what's on his mind to explain it properly.

The Slam read is bullshit. Way too early to read him. Palmar is still mafia.

On March 19 2015 10:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Actually what I also find interesting is that he brought up Rayn who hasn't posted yet, yet missed the 9 other players in the signup list. How did he know Rayn was playing from the top of his head?

I'm actually imagining a scenario where he went into the scum qt and saw Rayn as the only notable name.

On March 19 2015 10:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Anyway Superbia is probably town because when he was scum with me in Imperial he was completely god forsaken useless and if he's capable of playing like this as mafia then he's a dick.

On March 19 2015 10:29 Superbia wrote:
Slam your thoughts so far? Why so unchupazi?

On March 19 2015 10:29 Toadesstern wrote:

like I just said, I have no idea what people are talking about and asked people to summarize it for me.

If I am to believe what Slam just said about him lying about not remembering anything from a game he supposedly was in himself (is that what the emoticons are about?) that seems weird, as well as what Artanis just pointed out. I don't like people saying "I can't remember anything he said" like 1 hour in. If it's a lurker and it's 1 or 2 days in sure but like this that just sounds odd and like he's trying to sugarcoat. He could have just gone out of his way with balls and say "didn't read anything Artanis said so far" but didn't and instead blamed it on not remembering something.... 1 hour in.

I'd like to get some name of the game people are talking about though so I don't just have to trust what I think Slam is trying to get at here so that I can pretend to read some old games, not do it after all and hastely do it like 5 hours before deadline in the end.

On March 19 2015 10:35 Holyflare wrote:
maybe you should spend your time reading the game and figuring it out instead of wasting your time reading OTHER games, hmm toad?

On March 19 2015 10:37 Fecalfeast wrote:

sicklucker this is false you play for your scum game.
from horn of africa

On March 19 2015 11:41 Toadesstern wrote:

well, I think you're mafia if that helps you. Other than that... I am mostly going by poe so you won't really find me talking about my mafiareads while I do casually drop my townreads.

I call bullshit on this. You just made some shit up like you've been doing the last 3 hours

##vote sicklucker

We still lynch palmar afterwards though

On March 19 2015 12:26 Toadesstern wrote:


thoughts about Prinz Eugen? Everyone just loves her :3



+ Show Spoiler [slightly NSFW] +

Written as [Pu-ri-n-tsu Eugen] ingame, charmingly called [Pu-ri-ke-tsu] instead which means something along the lines of... "firm ass" or "squishy ass because well... look at that 2nd pic

On March 19 2015 12:34 Trfel wrote:
Why does this make Alakaslam scum? I feel like his attack on Holyflare is more likely to come from town than scum, since attacking a high profile player early on seems like a poor play from scum.

Also, can someone explain to me why Alakaslam says that Holyflare's scumread of him is WIFOM? To me it seems like a meta read, not WIFOM.

Thanks!

On March 19 2015 12:36 Toadesstern wrote:

noone knows what slam is doing. Thus we engage with him as much as possible talking about anything and everything to get as much data as possible. We talk about the weather, about anime, about warships disguised as anime girls just to get some idea about him and make an educated guess around d2/d3.

Anyone claiming he knows how to read Slam early on is lying~

On March 19 2015 12:44 Trfel wrote:
Sorry, I meant, what implications do you think this has on Holyflare's alignment? (and maybe if it says anything about those who voted Alakaslam with him)

On March 19 2015 13:01 Eden1892 wrote:
good lord i'm at 5pg filter already

i'm not talking for the rest of the night

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 19 2015 13:05 Toadesstern wrote:

Actually I'm back to lynching Palmar but good that you ask, I was about to explain it once more in more detail anyways:

1. Look at Hammertime and look at Palmars filter. I'm not asking you to read the game, just ctrl-f "Toad" in Palmars filter. Nothing else: Palmars Filter
   Please do it, that takes 5 minutes. No reading, just ctrl-f and going through some of the posts is already enough.
   
   
2. Realize that the reasoning for Palmar scumreading me in that game, when I was town was "idk, something's odd. I forgot what"
   
3. Realize my first post in JoaT was:
   On March 03 2015 08:08 Toadesstern wrote:
   Fear not guyses for I have yet again rolled neither mafia nor Ninja. Thus I will proceed to kill all those mafias and not be mislynched d1 despite being called fucking confirmed town 24-36hours into the game.
   
   Let me check real quick if Palmar is in the game
   my first post in here was
   On March 19 2015 08:18 Toadesstern wrote:
   sup guyses
   
   For not for I have rolled town and I will lead us to glorious days of dancing under rainbows while lynching all of mafia. Gone are the days when I just showed that I'm blatantly town to everyone and lose nontheless because I trusted people that want to get attention.
   
   For that I ask you to vote to become your mayor so we can slay all of mafia. The position of my personal sheriff is still open and I shall announce the guy or girl that gets that position soon!
   compare them for a second
   
4. Look at Palmar and what he says about me this game and why I'm supposedly mafia:
   On March 19 2015 09:02 Palmar wrote:
   I actually kinda sorta maybe believe my reasons for voting Toad. Both of the things I said are true.
   
   #1 "guyses" is not a word any viable human being utters in a normal sentence.
   #2 He is half-assedly copying what was a much cooler play when he was town
   
   
   On March 19 2015 08:29 Palmar wrote:
   

   Show nested quote +
   

   On March 19 2015 08:27 Toadesstern wrote:
   

   On March 19 2015 08:22 Palmar wrote:
   Also I think Toad tried to get elected as a mayor (in a no election game) last time too, so technically he's maybe imitating his town game.

   
   I've basicly copy & pasted that post as I've done in my last.... 5 or so games in a row, both as mafia as well as town. So why don't you go ahead and explain a little more in detail about what you think rather than just killing me for "I don't know, I forgot what I don't like about toad but he's mafia" like you did last time?

   
   You used colors and formatting and didn't type "guyses" last time. In hindsight that was far more townie than this.

The chances of Palmar getting in here and saying that, without checking after what happened to him and me in Hammertime when we both were town are literally 0% if he is town and wasn't just trolling or trying to get reactions.

HF and everyone else whatever but Palmar would not just post that without at least giving one second of a thought about it and doublechecking after singlehandedly ruining a game because of a "Toad feels weird" read he did recently. No way. Not possible.

Palmar is mafia
##vote Palmar

On March 19 2015 13:15 Bill Murray wrote:
voting palmar
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On March 19 2015 13:19 rsoultin wrote:


lol

-sits on onegu's head- mine was totes better xP unless you can demonstrate the validity of your formula by applying it to past slam games

On March 19 2015 13:23 Bill Murray wrote:
unvote
vote eden1892 c. p 14

On March 20 2015 09:19 rsoultin wrote:


lol LS xP

if there's something you want to talk about, let me know?

slam the man you're giving me the heebie jeebies :/

On March 20 2015 09:27 Fecalfeast wrote:

are you caught up?

On March 20 2015 11:56 Fecalfeast wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +

Seriously though I'm off in about 5 mins and will be home in about 20-25

On March 21 2015 01:55 Holyflare wrote:
rayn is mafia

##unvote
##vote rayn

On March 21 2015 02:04 Toadesstern wrote:
do I actually have to respond to Palmar and Rayn here in fears of the bullshit sticking somewhere or can I keep on reading the 25 pages I havn't read yet?

On March 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Oh hey you made a scumcase on me while not even having to read the thread.
gj scum.

On March 21 2015 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LIKE NOONE CAN EVER SAY TOADESSTERN IS TOWN HERE!
Can we now lynch mafia?

On March 21 2015 02:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
slam read rsoultin's recent pages pls

On March 21 2015 02:39 Fecalfeast wrote:

almost as if she's trying to hop on holyflare's wagon for a bullshit reason/no reason? Am I forcing a certain answer with that question? Maybe.

On March 21 2015 14:49 Breshke wrote:


I havn't actually read all the pages but its something like.

Vivax claimed vigi.

Toad CC'd.

Most if not all of the people who voted BM didn't think the right play was to kill one of the vigi claims.

HF was scum reading BM and this is where those people ended up. If you want the reasons for said scum read best look in HF's filter as it is probably better than me recounting it to you.

On March 22 2015 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Mafia is:

Toadesstern
Lightningstrike
Superbia
Trfel
one of Artanis / rsoultin.

read my post which will come later on today for reasoning, or my filter.

On March 22 2015 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Mafia is:

Toadesstern
Lightningstrike
Superbia
Trfel
one of Artanis / rsoultin.

read my post which will come later on today for reasoning, or my filter.

On March 22 2015 03:54 Fecalfeast wrote:

DON'T COMMENT ON READABILITY OR GRAMMAR SLAM WILL GET ANGRY

On March 22 2015 08:06 Vivax wrote:
I shot Alakaslam

On March 22 2015 11:44 Damdred wrote:
We have our lynch today slam and possibly lynch tommorow
what else do you think slam

On March 22 2015 14:49 Toadesstern wrote:
We're going to change that order a little once this day is over. At least one in there is town and I have not yet figured out which one

On March 22 2015 14:50 Eden1892 wrote:

Too late, I already solved the game. Go back to bed

On March 22 2015 14:59 Eden1892 wrote:

probably our claimed jailer that oh yeah I have never misread once I've figured out how to read her over a month ago????

On March 22 2015 15:09 Eden1892 wrote:
I said it a lot because it's fucking true and somehow you jokers just don't get it.

On March 22 2015 15:16 Eden1892 wrote:
actually imma b hones

i think we lynch exo/superb then superb/exo then slam then palmar.

my points on exo/superb are actually grounded really concretely on things that happened in the game and while my slam ones are as well, i think my exo/superb points are better.

so instead
New Lynch Order:
LightningStrike, ExO_, Superbia, Alakaslam, Palmar

On March 22 2015 15:17 Toadesstern wrote:
I agree. Your points on Slam are the weakest and I'd like to have him last as well. The fact that Vivax apparently shot him and got rb'ed is the only reason I'm not kicking him out of that list tbh

On March 22 2015 15:21 Eden1892 wrote:

no i'm pretty sure i moved you back cuz i realized my exo/superb points are stronger than my slam points

On March 22 2015 15:23 Toadesstern wrote:


yeah.... no. Even I'm going to call Vivax town by now. What has the world come to

On March 22 2015 15:25 Toadesstern wrote:

I was pretty damn close to getting Vivax lynched on d1 I'd say. Did you think about that one?

(I'm sorry Vivax)

On March 22 2015 15:34 Eden1892 wrote:

...or, we could kill the guys on whom i have good mafia cases, and then reevaluate BEFORE lynching you

which you should want if you're town but might be okay with not having if you're mafia

On March 22 2015 15:36 Eden1892 wrote:
i can't tell if slam is deliberately posting pics to rage b/c the last time i ml'd him he did it

On March 22 2015 16:35 Eden1892 wrote:

holy shit lol i had no idea you were actually straight up googling all that

and i hear ya on stress and all. but... i can't help but think that this is contributing to the whole "there are too many pages to catch up on" phenomenon

On March 23 2015 18:19 Vivax wrote:
Can somebody remind me of the funny face people post a lot on twitch? Forgot the name.

On March 24 2015 01:56 Vivax wrote:


But boting is be bing bich bakes bum book bike bown bery beasily.

On March 24 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:


im 25

On March 24 2015 14:33 ritoky wrote:


- rayn claims as VT to push someone he has a 95+% scum read on sometimes. I think it is stupid and as mafia I got him ML'd for it once, but he does it because he is into big plays like that for whatever reason. was he the one who did it in XXX with the fake cc on his teammate day 1? I guess he is capable as both alignments if that was him.

- rayn is an asshole

- he was tryharding like mad as mafia in the other game, I would guess that has something to do with his effort level here?

those are the best answers to those points I can give you at this point.

On March 25 2015 05:46 Eden1892 wrote:
i'm not gonna lie, i've been wondering where you've been recently lol

but it is a little weird how all the people in my lynch pile came out of the woodwork and started chirping about you

On March 25 2015 05:51 Superbia wrote:


I'm claiming nothing sson. Shoot me to find out. :D

On March 25 2015 06:09 Vivax wrote:
Slam give me your soul or I will have to lynch you.

On March 25 2015 06:12 Vivax wrote:


I meant, give me your vote.
Be my sheep until the very end.

Cause I'm rereading SL and read a post by Palmar and the new influx of information makes me want to replace SL with you.

On March 25 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote:
Which vigi claimed the shot on VE again?

On March 25 2015 06:15 Vivax wrote:


Which is where?

On March 25 2015 06:18 Superbia wrote:
I'm not going to post for the next hour or so, making big posterino.

On March 25 2015 14:58 Eden1892 wrote:

slam is scum thru POE and not making even the slightest iota of effort to solve the game

onegu is town thru the sequence of mason claim + rsoultin jailing him + hf being shot. the most plausible explanation of this sequence, by far, is that scum believed they were masons together and tried to shoot both of them

ritoky is town thru... thru... well idk i have him in my POE. LOL
but he's trying which is better than can be said for slam

On March 25 2015 14:34 Eden1892 wrote:

correct

slam is best lynch

On March 25 2015 14:01 Eden1892 wrote:
Literally this is how today should go.

1. Are Artanis and Superbia both town?
If yes goto 3.
If no goto 2.

2. Are Fecalfeast and ritoky both mafia?
If yes lynch either one.
If no goto 3.

3. Lynch Slam

On March 25 2015 17:41 Eden1892 wrote:
slam i understand that this game is hella active and you're hella busy

but you're not helping me solve the game by asking me to lynch you (unless you're mafia)

On March 26 2015 01:59 Vivax wrote:


Not just that. Alone the fact they RBd one of the vigs shows a dhttp://derstandard.at/egree of expectation that it could hit one of them. It's speculative but the other only reason I see is that they hoped it would get the RB claimant lynched, which wasn't really in question given that almost everyone TRd me based on the happenings of N1.

Anyway once Slam is out of the game we are left with a pool of people who are all readable and less controversial. It's good play trust me, might actually be one of the few times where I see a town managing to plynch a guy, which is underrated.

No offense to Slam but your unique style allows you to do whatever the hell you want as town AND as mafia, and hence you have to go today.

On March 26 2015 00:34 Vivax wrote:


The fact he did this and nobody still is 100 % sure on him being scum simply cause he's slam is a good enough reason.

The only downside is that Trfel townreads him and I do respect his opinion. But Trfel also thinks policy lynching is shit, on which I disagree.

_____________________________________

On another topic, rereading D1 I just realized how stretched Artanis scumread on Toad was (P69), and how Artanis got owned in the debate with him. The scumread literally was because of Toad switching between Palmar and SL and back. At that moment you clearly see Artanis getting into the trouble of forming scumreads. VE and Toad both start pushing him, and then Artanis counter votes VE (P77).

Meanwhile FF's wall of text on LS goes uncommented by Palmar on P67. Artanis comments this:



FF replies



re



re



Observation: FF doesn't even answer Artanis question on LS, he just gives a read on VE. Artanis doesn't get back to this, telling me that the LS thingy wasn't as important to these guys as their posts suggests, at the very least they tried to make it look improtant but Artanis made the mistake of not demanding more from FF, and FF did the same mistake.

I think this is scum-scum.

For comparison, here is what happened when I posted my read on LS, spoilered for length:
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As you see the tone and the intention between me and FF' provoked replies is entirely different. Artanis goes against me with a strong opinion about LS, LS himself



replies to me with "ugh but I'm town" whereas to FF the reply is way more FF-case-Oriented. So, I read these guys as being way less defensive towards each other than they were towards my case. It's more like they feel compelled to talk to each other about something to create some interactions for D1 which is a task for scum.