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The editing zero tolerance scares me. It happened to me by mistake on various occasions.
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I think the orb needs tweaks as I would never use it as it is right now.
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Some more concrete ideas:
20 % chance of
- killing a player - masoning a player - framing and roleblocking yourself (return mafia as town and town as mafia no matter what other actions were taken) - getting an extra hidden vote during the next day - a random town player gets a one-shot check with 50 % of being normal and 50 % of being insane (reversed results). Strikethrough cause it allows mafia to fakeclaim checks when they get the orb.
backdraws for mafia and backdraws for town. Just a quick suggestion that makes the orb more attractive for both alignments.
so as town you have the chance of 2 benefits, as mafia of 2 benefits
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And if you wanna kill a player and then u end up masoned with him it should be quite hilarious
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On March 11 2015 01:52 Blazinghand wrote: could just get rid of the self-kp option and it's like a joat item that wanders
Yea but given the probabilities then it's just town-favoured.
I think that it needs some more benefits for mafia as they are more unlikely to get it.
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On March 11 2015 03:01 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 02:57 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2015 01:52 Blazinghand wrote: could just get rid of the self-kp option and it's like a joat item that wanders Yea but given the probabilities then it's just town-favoured. I think that it needs some more benefits for mafia as they are more unlikely to get it. meh, if we have it replace a blue role in our balance (or probably replace 1.5 blue roles since scum can't just shoot this dead) it acts a lot like a JOAT. Simple and doesn't require that much tweaking
But it's a JOAT that can confirm people town who get it and have a lucky roll, any town is going to use this on their scumreads, and mafia won't share the results unless they roll track and happen to hit somebody who visits one of their NKs.
Not really happy with a wandering town confirmation machine (if you rolecheck on a mafia it's just like a cop check? All roles are named so)
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And when they estimate themselves as being good at a task they perform relatively better, while with a bad estimation they perform worse. I know it under another name,rosenthal-effect.
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Palmar mafia for no bash script giving him first post.
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So basically there were more beans than fish in what I bought.
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i dont want to take a stance in this slam business.
see you tomorrow after i ate some better fish
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Still catching up, the most interesting thing I came across so far is this. Anyway superbia is probs mafia. + Show Spoiler +On March 19 2015 10:12 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 10:11 Trfel wrote:On March 19 2015 10:08 Eden1892 wrote:On March 19 2015 10:06 rsoultin wrote:On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote: Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5? Edeeeeen I'm feeling a Truffle tunnel coming on >< like no shit almost as strong as the Student V read Truffle tunnel am i wrong? ...i'm not actually sure that you're wrong why did he narrow it down to 4 or 5 if he didn't know how many mafia there are? Why 4 or 5? Because those are (to the best of my knowledge) the only possibilities. Superbia's only answer was 7, and I don't think that is true. The recent Titanic mafia was 17 players, with one third party, so 16 players. There were 4 mafia. I believe the standard large games (Carol of the Bells, Imperial Mafia, for example) have 5 mafia. Thus, I expect this game to have 4 or 5 mafia. I'm asking because I feel that it is helpful to know how many mafia are in the game. Maybe you disagree, but I would like to know. And I don't have enough experience to really know if there would be 4 or 5 mafia, especially not compared to many of the players in this game. Why the fuck did you feel the need to justify your question to this degree? On March 19 2015 10:12 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 10:11 Trfel wrote:On March 19 2015 10:08 Eden1892 wrote:On March 19 2015 10:06 rsoultin wrote:On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote: Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5? Edeeeeen I'm feeling a Truffle tunnel coming on >< like no shit almost as strong as the Student V read Truffle tunnel am i wrong? ...i'm not actually sure that you're wrong why did he narrow it down to 4 or 5 if he didn't know how many mafia there are? Why 4 or 5? Because those are (to the best of my knowledge) the only possibilities. Superbia's only answer was 7, and I don't think that is true. The recent Titanic mafia was 17 players, with one third party, so 16 players. There were 4 mafia. I believe the standard large games (Carol of the Bells, Imperial Mafia, for example) have 5 mafia. Thus, I expect this game to have 4 or 5 mafia. I'm asking because I feel that it is helpful to know how many mafia are in the game. Maybe you disagree, but I would like to know. And I don't have enough experience to really know if there would be 4 or 5 mafia, especially not compared to many of the players in this game. ugh im cringing from how fraudulent this sounds i hate that i can't find the words for why i do. rso what do you think about this On March 19 2015 10:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 10:12 Superbia wrote:On March 19 2015 10:11 Trfel wrote:On March 19 2015 10:08 Eden1892 wrote:On March 19 2015 10:06 rsoultin wrote:On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote: Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5? Edeeeeen I'm feeling a Truffle tunnel coming on >< like no shit almost as strong as the Student V read Truffle tunnel am i wrong? ...i'm not actually sure that you're wrong why did he narrow it down to 4 or 5 if he didn't know how many mafia there are? Why 4 or 5? Because those are (to the best of my knowledge) the only possibilities. Superbia's only answer was 7, and I don't think that is true. The recent Titanic mafia was 17 players, with one third party, so 16 players. There were 4 mafia. I believe the standard large games (Carol of the Bells, Imperial Mafia, for example) have 5 mafia. Thus, I expect this game to have 4 or 5 mafia. I'm asking because I feel that it is helpful to know how many mafia are in the game. Maybe you disagree, but I would like to know. And I don't have enough experience to really know if there would be 4 or 5 mafia, especially not compared to many of the players in this game. Why the fuck did you feel the need to justify your question to this degree? I really like his answer On March 19 2015 10:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 10:13 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 10:12 Superbia wrote:On March 19 2015 10:11 Trfel wrote:On March 19 2015 10:08 Eden1892 wrote:On March 19 2015 10:06 rsoultin wrote:On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote: Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5? Edeeeeen I'm feeling a Truffle tunnel coming on >< like no shit almost as strong as the Student V read Truffle tunnel am i wrong? ...i'm not actually sure that you're wrong why did he narrow it down to 4 or 5 if he didn't know how many mafia there are? Why 4 or 5? Because those are (to the best of my knowledge) the only possibilities. Superbia's only answer was 7, and I don't think that is true. The recent Titanic mafia was 17 players, with one third party, so 16 players. There were 4 mafia. I believe the standard large games (Carol of the Bells, Imperial Mafia, for example) have 5 mafia. Thus, I expect this game to have 4 or 5 mafia. I'm asking because I feel that it is helpful to know how many mafia are in the game. Maybe you disagree, but I would like to know. And I don't have enough experience to really know if there would be 4 or 5 mafia, especially not compared to many of the players in this game. Why the fuck did you feel the need to justify your question to this degree? I really like his answer Me too.
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BM tell me more about that Eden read. What's a JEEP tell?
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On March 19 2015 19:53 Bill Murray wrote: just something i use for RVS reads and voting mechanical reads i learned from mafia scum. jeep was a player with an unfinished guide on tells which has to do with wording, bandwagonning, etc
also doc tells
And how does that apply to Eden in terms of this dude's unfinished guide?
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I think Toad reacted excessively to that Palmar attack, he concluded Palmar bullshitting=mafia when my feeling was that everyone was still bullshitting.
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Pretty sure I want to lynch superbia, the fake scumhunting smells stronger than the croatian fish.
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He has like an exaggerated way of pointing out things that I commonly associate with scum. Similarly to Toad going "Palmar 100 % mafia" at the beginning of the game.
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Notable examples of what I mean about Superbia with an extra at the end.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2015 10:11 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 10:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 19 2015 09:57 Superbia wrote: Dumbtell boys. How many mafia are there in a game of 20? 5? I'm getting bad feels from this post. The dumbtell part feels forced like he's super aware of what he's doing. Now what? Why are you just sitting on this? Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 10:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote: Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5? This is gonna sound really dumb but I think Superbia and Trfel are never going to be mafia together. This is just not something you repeat as mafia when another mafia's asked it already and especially after I called Superb out on his tone for it. This feels like you felt like you had to do something with the pretty empty poke you just posted. On March 19 2015 10:12 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 10:11 Trfel wrote:On March 19 2015 10:08 Eden1892 wrote:On March 19 2015 10:06 rsoultin wrote:On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote: Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5? Edeeeeen I'm feeling a Truffle tunnel coming on >< like no shit almost as strong as the Student V read Truffle tunnel am i wrong? ...i'm not actually sure that you're wrong why did he narrow it down to 4 or 5 if he didn't know how many mafia there are? Why 4 or 5? Because those are (to the best of my knowledge) the only possibilities. Superbia's only answer was 7, and I don't think that is true. The recent Titanic mafia was 17 players, with one third party, so 16 players. There were 4 mafia. I believe the standard large games (Carol of the Bells, Imperial Mafia, for example) have 5 mafia. Thus, I expect this game to have 4 or 5 mafia. I'm asking because I feel that it is helpful to know how many mafia are in the game. Maybe you disagree, but I would like to know. And I don't have enough experience to really know if there would be 4 or 5 mafia, especially not compared to many of the players in this game. Why the fuck did you feel the need to justify your question to this degree? On March 19 2015 10:17 Superbia wrote: SL that was so bad. On March 19 2015 10:54 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 10:52 Trfel wrote:On March 19 2015 10:49 Fecalfeast wrote: am I wrong or did eden fakeclaim miller? I think there's a very reasonable chance it's a joke. Though of course you are right that if Eden is in fact a miller, he wouldn't know. Claiming unaware miller is something I was planning on doing eventually. Actually, I would have done that this game, but I forgot and claimed mafia instead. Why are you defending trfel? What are you with my TWO(!) 30m passes? (actually he means defending Eden after the miller fakeclaim). In between some game unrelated stuff that suggests he acts more serious than he is. I just hope it's not his personality. On March 19 2015 11:41 Superbia wrote: Why are people actually voting Eden? Odd question after he asked Trfel why he's defending him. Asking that question implies he has a differing opinion about Eden's alignment, in the question to Trfel his post suggests that the miller claim is worthy of suspicion, but in the later post the impression is the opposite. It's like he has no clue why people would vote for Eden.
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On March 19 2015 20:51 Palmar wrote: You know I put a lot of stock into very early game reads, you've seen me make those multiple times.
Don't tell me you put a lot of stock into the Toad read just based on his wording please. The reaction was hyper but that wasn't really an argument, which is why the reaction is hyper.
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