TL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy - Page 324

On March 25 2015 13:03 Eden1892 wrote:

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On March 25 2015 13:06 Toadesstern wrote:
Was and hopefully still is Vivax.

Do you still think I'm mafia after Palmar the guy that nonstop pushed me d1, with lots of people mentioning that he wouldn't tell people to bus if he's mafia, flipped red btw?

On March 25 2015 10:49 Onegu wrote:
Btw don't think Rayn's slot is scum still. Looks like I was shot then so toad must be town. Breshke get in here and vote so I can sheep you

On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:


All right. So Artanis' day 1 is actually really really bad, with the exception if rayn ever flips mafia (which I severely doubt at this point).

He hard defends LS:



He calls toad scum and by proxy, defends Palmar who toad is tunneling. Interestingly, at this very point Artanis had no read on Palmar! He was reading him null!

Then, when the claim wars happen, he completely flips on toad, and goes hard after vivax. This is after toad was his hard mafia read.

We are left with this list:



With the exception of possibly rayn, most of his reads are pretty shit. He leans town on two confirmed mafia (really bad) for seemingly no good reason whatsoever.

Now this is where it gets scummy, with the whole claim thing. There's a wagon on Vivax and a wagon starts on BM. As the wagon starts, Art calls it "pure" but refuses to switch. He gets called out by you (Eden) and he gives a half-assed excuse later. He seems to strongly consider the world in which both vigis are real:



But for a reason I don't share whatsoever, proceeds to call Vivax 100% scum anyway. Moreover, Artanis later finds the time to make a paint diagram on rayn's anger levels, a very peculiar thing to do in such a high-stress claim situation for town. He seems to consider his options during this claim war, but I sincerely doubt he actually did consider anything. In the end he is still reading Vivax as scum.

Now it gets even weirder, we manage to get the wagon off of Vivax, and the night phase begins. For some reason, Artanis decides to town-read Vivax, before the night actions are even resolved. Then when the day begins (and KP is reduced), Artanis hard-reads Vivax town for his filter length, what!?

My theory at this point is that scum put both an RB and KP on Vivax. I believe that both Artanis and Onegu are scum due to this. I believe Artanis was looking to set himself up to look good before Vivax flipped town, and that he needed to substantiate his read after it became obvious Vivax lived through the KP. By extension, I think that Onegu is scum because in this world Onegu is never the save.

I think for a 3rd scum slam is still a good bet.

Then when the day begins (and KP is reduced), Artanis hard-reads Vivax town for his filter length, what!?

On March 21 2015 07:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Rso, here's what I imagine is 99% likely going to happen.
We lynch BM, he flips whatever.
We tell Vivax and Toad to shoot certain targets. Vivax declines, says he'll shot whoever he wants. Toad agrees and shoots a public target.

One of the shots doesn't go off, the other hits town. We're now in D2 with little more information than we had before, a mystery on if the person the other vig wanted to shoot was blocked because he's mafia or because mafia want to mislynch him, and two vigis that are still both unconfirmed to be town.

We need to deal with this today or we'll spend another 72h talking about it.