EPTYou may think highly of your play but straight out ignoring so many people with probably more experience than you is really stupid. At the very least if you are a supporter of that position it is your task to find arguments for it instead of lazily putting him into a list cause activity. I still have to see an argument that goes beyond "he's active or trying to solve the game" whereas multiple arguments for him being mafia have been presented from the aforementioned players.
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Vivax
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You may think highly of your play but straight out ignoring so many people with probably more experience than you is really stupid. At the very least if you are a supporter of that position it is your task to find arguments for it instead of lazily putting him into a list cause activity. I still have to see an argument that goes beyond "he's active or trying to solve the game" whereas multiple arguments for him being mafia have been presented from the aforementioned players. | ||
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Vivax
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I'm wondering if people even read. | ||
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rsoultin
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On March 23 2015 01:58 Vivax wrote: If you are town and townread Artanis I strongly urge you to rethink your position given that two dead townies and me and rayn all suspect him. You may think highly of your play but straight out ignoring so many people with probably more experience than you is really stupid. At the very least if you are a supporter of that position it is your task to find arguments for it instead of lazily putting him into a list cause activity. I still have to see an argument that goes beyond "he's active or trying to solve the game" whereas multiple arguments for him being mafia have been presented from the aforementioned players. why is he scum to y'all again? can you make it succinct please? | ||
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On March 23 2015 01:59 Damdred wrote: Rs... LS never voted for rayn i know he didn't? he was saying he might? i guess that doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things lol just saying you might vote for someone | ||
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Vivax
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On March 23 2015 02:00 rsoultin wrote: why is he scum to y'all again? can you make it succinct please? No, enough clutter. Read the game, mafia isn't babyfood to be spoonfed to lazy people, you actually have to dig and find the scum nuggets. Or listen to the right people. THe constant denial to do it for yourself and request to let others do the work for you is awful town play. Did you even read what confirmed dead townies wrote? | ||
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Vivax
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So I do sound quite angry for that. And it's the same reason why I'd understand rayn being mad and not even trying when he doesn't have to. It's the clash of differing playstyles, and I prefer analysis based play and get mad at people when they don't counter your analysis with more analysis but go like "meh, don't think so cause I feel like it". | ||
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Trfel
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From the rules description of the Orb. "The Infinity Orb is a special mechanic to aid the Nova Corps and the forces of good against the forces of evil." In case people still doubt ExO_'s claim. | ||
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rsoultin
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On March 23 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote: No, enough clutter. Read the game, mafia isn't babyfood to be spoonfed to lazy people, you actually have to dig and find the scum nuggets. Or listen to the right people. THe constant denial to do it for yourself and request to let others do the work for you is awful town play. Did you even read what confirmed dead townies wrote? look, you don't have to work with me if you don't want to, and you don't have to like the way i play, but saying i never do any analysis is a stretch. i rely on feels cause for whatever reason they tend to work better than actual analysis for me, and it's actually frustrating if you want to know the truth my initial play on this site was heavily logic/analysis driven and i kept running into the fact that people are just fucking illogical and contradictory as town. all too often. all too many of them so would you mind working with me at all? like seriously in carol i kept asking why lian was screaming about hf and only when i went back through his filter, found his argument, applied it to hf's filter did it click work with me unless you think i'm scum, then whatever. i don't really like your attitude either it was very infurating day 1 but i'm still trying to work with you? | ||
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Trfel
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I suppose I was accepting Artanis[Xp] as town because everyone else was willing to. Apparently that is no longer true. I'll take a look when I have time (which probably won't be for a while...). | ||
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Vivax
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Cause working with you isn't the same as working for you, I did my work on the Artanis part. I read him, I read HF, I read VE, I read rayn and their opinions on him. Everyone else is letting him slide for lazy reasons, and these are the guys I trust the most given that we know each other's plays being here for years. So I kindly ask you to read what HF and VE wrote on Artanis, cause if you can't trust me or rayn at least you can trust me. | ||
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Vivax
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and me ofc, but I figure you'd be more prone to listen to HF and VE? | ||
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rsoultin
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On March 23 2015 02:19 Vivax wrote: Sure you can work with me but then don't ask me to spoonfeed you what other people and myself said about Artanis. Cause working with you isn't the same as working for you, I did my work on the Artanis part. I read him, I read HF, I read VE, I read rayn and their opinions on him. Everyone else is letting him slide for lazy reasons, and these are the guys I trust the most given that we know each other's plays being here for years. So I kindly ask you to read what HF and VE wrote on Artanis, cause if you can't trust me or rayn at least you can trust me. lol, i really don't see the problem with putting it in one place, succinctly, over me going back through five filters to find it, but if it bugs you that much, whatever (i wasn't asking you, btw, because i ever intended to accept what you were saying blindly >< i fact-check things. it's how i work with others' reads/cases. just ask damdy. i always fact-check his cases even when people go omg! sheep time) regardless i don't think it's worth arguing about. i'm not sure why you're so pissed at me right now, anyway? it's kinda unnecessary | ||
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Damdred
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Like seriously you didn't even read my big post vivax when I did it and you complain about rd not digging that's kinda frustrating to me | ||
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Vivax
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On March 23 2015 02:32 Damdred wrote: Dead townies doesn't mean correct brownies sadly and honestly vivax in a almost 250 page game on the start of d2.... it might be advantageous of you to post the case again instead of complaining of spoon feeding people. Like seriously you didn't even read my big post vivax when I did it and you complain about rd not digging that's kinda frustrating to me I read it today. It's what made me go heavier on the vote analysis in regards to Toad -.- | ||
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Vivax
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On March 23 2015 02:29 rsoultin wrote: lol, i really don't see the problem with putting it in one place, succinctly, over me going back through five filters to find it, but if it bugs you that much, whatever (i wasn't asking you, btw, because i ever intended to accept what you were saying blindly >< i fact-check things. it's how i work with others' reads/cases. just ask damdy. i always fact-check his cases even when people go omg! sheep time) regardless i don't think it's worth arguing about. i'm not sure why you're so pissed at me right now, anyway? it's kinda unnecessary Pissed isn't exactly the word, I was just honest about my opinion on how the game should be played and why I think you're doing it wrong, and then suggested what to read. I figured I thought I was more constructive than how it actually came over? Okay, let's go into more concrete examples then. On March 22 2015 05:09 Holyflare wrote: i really just want you to shoot artanis for this post plz On March 22 2015 05:13 Holyflare wrote: you mean like the last game where rayn afk tunneled on 1 guy the entirety of day 1 as town????? i don't believe you On March 22 2015 05:32 Holyflare wrote: if you think toad is town and i presume you think vivax is town because you didn't scum read him in your host wifom then why on earth was rayn in your list when he was on the bm lynch????? So can anyone tell me why HF is making wrong points on Artanis here? | ||
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