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Trfel
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On March 27 2015 09:49 Vivax wrote: It's currently 9 vs 3. One night kill, and one mislynch, so 7 vs 3. One night kill, and one mislynch, so 5 vs 3. Then if we no lynch (which isn't even allowed), it would be 4 vs 3, and the night kill makes it 3 vs 3, and we lose.No, one NK one mislynch, town goes from 9 to 7. One NK one mislynch. Town goes from 7 to 5 Etc. | ||
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Trfel
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On March 27 2015 09:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I agree, but I don't think this looked like a middle of the road option.Basically, the premise of your argument is that "If scum want to bus LS, they would do it strongly for maximum cred or they wouldn't do it at all" and I'm not convinced that a middle of the road option isn't possible. To me, it looks like scum had very little to do with the LightningStrike push at all. If you think Vivax is town, Onegu only followed by the RNG sheep. And there was some support given in the thread, but only from raynpelikoneet and Eden. I don't think this makes sense from a mafia!Fecalfeast perspective, though I suppose if raynpelikoneet/ritoky is scum after all, I could see this. But if raynpelikoneet was town, then scum didn't show any support for this case at all. I would think that scum would try to get towncredit for more than one person for an early Day 1 bus, so they would have at least one other person show support for it fairly early on (even if not voting for it). | ||
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Trfel
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On March 27 2015 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: This is correct.So it can only rolecheck and roleblock now? I'm presuming the roleblock would also prevent KP. Rolecheck is extremely powerful, as basically anything non-vanilla indicates scum. And all of the scum power roles are still up (except I suppose a godfather wouldn't be caught by this). Roleblock does prevent KP, but with only one scum KP and three scum, this is difficult. | ||
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Trfel
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On March 27 2015 10:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Fair enough, I'll defer to your experience.I don't see the option where scum fecal makes a case and the rest of the scumteam waits to see if townies sheep it before hopping on as unreasonable. | ||
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Trfel
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After I checked LightningStrike, he expressed disappointment at being caught. If I am scum, this makes sense (it makes me seem towny). However, if I am town (which I know for certain), then it is very likely that LightningStrike was telling the truth, and he was disappointed to be caught. This indicates that scum wasn't completely willing to bus LightningStrike (I don't think they would be willing to bus him when Fecalfeast did, and then change their minds, because the only good reason for Fecalfeast bussing LightningStrike there is LightningStrike's own desire to not play). Basically, because I know that LightningStrike ultimately was not bussed, and seemed to be genuinely disappointed at being lynched, I think that makes Fecalfeast more likely to be town. Does that make sense to anyone else? | ||
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Trfel
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On March 27 2015 09:00 Onegu wrote: Other people agree that this is a very towny post, right?Wait jk doesn't prevent KP then I'm confirmed town | ||
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On March 27 2015 11:09 Eden1892 wrote: Jailer does stop KP.Jailer stops kp... It's in the OP I have no idea what this point means But that aside, I think that Onegu's reaction hints at him being town. Do you agree? | ||
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Trfel
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On March 27 2015 11:10 Eden1892 wrote: Onegu sees a post that says "jailer doesn't stop KP", and he responds "that means I'm town!"Explain like I'm a 5 year old that just mislynched town I'm thinking that if Onegu is mafia, he wouldn't think to respond like that, because he would know that it is false. Obviously he could, I just think it's less likely than Onegu actually being town. Unless of course, I am wrong in this assessment, which is why I am asking. | ||
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Trfel
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Given the above post I mentioned, I don't really want to lynch Onegu any more. Onegu, if you are town, I would still like to see more from you. But again, if you are town, I do apologize for pushing you this past day. If ritoky is scum, I don't think I can catch him through general gameplay, only how he reacts to situations. So, I'd prefer to leave that for later tomorrow. I'd also prefer to leave Fecalfeast for later tomorrow, as I want to see how his activity goes over the course of the next cycle. Artanis could be scum here, I think he's good enough that it is possible. However, I think that this is extremely unlikely. In addition, I'm not going to lynch him out of suspicion, only proof. And though it might be possible to prove, it would take an extremely large amount of time invested. If someone would like to do the work, that's fine with me. But I'm not going to spend basically a whole day reading Artanis (that's what it would take me...) if he is very likely to be town here. Town Sicklucker Vivax Toadesstern Eden Artanis Townish Onegu Fecalfeast Damdred Superbia Other Breshke ritoky | ||
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Trfel
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On March 27 2015 12:58 Breshke wrote: It's an "other" list, not a "scum" list. To be honest, I don't really know who scum is right now.Trefel how are you going to feel when one of your scumreads starts pushing on the other because im about 85% sure ritoky is going to come back with the thread saying he didn;t like the way i changed my vote I'll filter dive you first, everyone else I have more reason to wait on. | ||
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Trfel
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Who are your top lynches for tomorrow? | ||
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Trfel
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On March 27 2015 15:29 Toadesstern wrote: Oh, shoot, that makes sense...Why are people claiming orb when mafia killed cop / medic last cycle when I already explained last night that people need to shut the fuck up about the orb and not let mafia know who has it / what they're doing with it? We got lucky last night because they apparently had to RB the medic to get rid of the cop but why would you claim to have the orb this night... Sorry for giving it away. | ||
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Trfel
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At this time, I don't know who I want to lynch. | ||
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On March 29 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote: Superbia could be a good lynch here. It depends on the quality of his case and the aftermath. At times, he's been showing good scumhunting, but I need to check and see how those times relate to when the mafia motivations for scumhunting are higher.Do you have any leanings Trfel? TEll me your thoughts Ritoky could also be a good lynch, but I need to take another look at raynpelikoneet's play and then see what ritoky has been getting at so far. I think I have a somewhat better understanding of how raynpelikoneet plays after playing voice mafia with him, so I would like to reread that. However, I'm pretty busy today, so I'll do what I can, but maybe won't get through too much. | ||
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Trfel
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On March 29 2015 03:30 Fecalfeast wrote: Because he hasn't done much that indicates that he is scum (I was wrong on two of my points about why he is scum).Why is onegu assumed to be town, again? Also, he misinterpreted a post about the rules in such a way that it confirmed him town, and he seemed genuinely excited for being confirmed town. If he was scum, I doubt he would have reacted in that way (though of course it is possible). | ||
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Trfel
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Assuming that Onegu, Vivax, and Toadesstern town, we know that Onegu was shot. At this point, I am fine with these assumptions (though Onegu could still possibly be mafia). 1. Raynpelikoneet is mafia (this is obvious, as a claimed tracker, he should have been shot) 2. Scum has two roleblockers 3. Scum was scared enough of the Holyflare/Onegu mason pair that they wanted to kill both (preventing any sort of "if I die" post from the mason QT beign posted), more scared of this than a tracker Is it likely that scum has two roleblockers in this game? And also, what were Holyflare's final stances on people? | ||
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I need a reason. Why are we lynching Fecalfeast? | ||
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Sorry, I was busy in Aperture 4. | ||
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I did the best that I could, but with zero real information. Mislynch is my fault. | ||
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