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On March 19 2015 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: That's where I'm at atm. Don't understand your Superbia townread, comparing his play with imperial I would say he's a bit more active and less case-y, but he even told you he's capable of more as scum. Given my arguments and the fact you previously found him suspicious IIRC it seems to me like you don't want to step away from that decision, plus now he's back to null for you? | ||
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On March 19 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote: I could be scum busing toad if he flips scum and I could be town and just wrong if he flips town. The first scenario is very unlikely from where I'm at. | ||
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On March 19 2015 21:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Actually I had him slightly leaning town on my gdoc, just forgot to add him into the list. What I think makes him townie is how he goes after absolutely everything, but backs off when he feels like there's plausible reasons behind it like he did when he pressed me on my tone read of him. It's a weak townread though as mafia could employ a similar strategy. I just feel like the timing that he backed off on me was townish. And I feel the way he went after you was mafiaish. His prods lead to nowhere and there's the contrast between his prods being so serious, then again he goes back to jokey stuff. Overall his play suggests he looks for potentially suspicious stuff to comment on but doesn't draw any consequences from it. | ||
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On March 19 2015 22:17 Damdred wrote: Well I'm caught up. Not sure what's wrong with my trfel read to you rayn it should be pretty apparent that trfel wasn't doing anything which is bad scummy for him and then started to make good posts that showed he was thinking about the game, wouldn't lynch at this point. Art I should be higher on yours and hfs lists! Do something about this chop chop. Cooking will be here to answer most questions I read ExO and doesn't seem like scum to me. Didn't read SL. Opinions on super and Toad requested. Got rayn on ice for now, ie no read. | ||
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On March 19 2015 22:38 Superbia wrote: Yo. Real quick, damdred is probable scum. I haven't really evaluated Vivax's alignment yet, though the whole thing looks pretty meh? I was never angry? I was having fun playing the game. Like Vivax, you even hinted to my scum game, why aren't you drawing any parallels? So, Damdred. Our reads have lined up pretty well, as can be told from my filter. We both had HF and Palmar as town early on. And Damdred had SL and trfel as scum. I was burying SL pretty hard yesterday (admittedly, maybe a bit too hard, but let's see what he brings today) and I was pushing on trfel, who you had as scum and according to your filter, were very unsure of. How is me pushing on trfel a scummy thing when you were leaning scum on him around the same time? Why isn't the thought process "well, I was scum-leaning on trfel as well, so I guess I can see where he's coming from"? Instead it is "trfel is town. Super pushed on him in a "dickish" way. He must be mafia". What? This doesn't line up at all with what is supposed to be your thought process. Why do we have similar reads if I'm mafia? Why am I burying SL so hard if, according to your world, we're mafia together? Btw. I was never angry. That is such fabricated nonsense. Saying you're angry didn't come from me. However your approach to questioning people does seem overly intonated, so to say, without a followup that reflects the same mood. Briefly summarized, which looks like you try to make your posts sound more meaningful than your followup suggests it is to you. Here's an example: On March 19 2015 10:19 Superbia wrote: Also I kind of rescind on the trfel thing. I actually did not read the context fully, and was not aware he was answering the whole "why are you specifying it to 4 or 5" thing. Was reading it out of context. On March 19 2015 10:54 Superbia wrote: Why are you defending trfel? What are you with my TWO(!) 30m passes? After yours and Eden's post on Trfel HF and Artanis disagreed with the two of you. You rescinded, yet your focus seems to be almost entirely on Trfel for the scumclaim, as you call him out for defending Eden post-miller-fakeclaim. It's like you decided that the scumclaim made him look bad and then decided to keep going after him for other reasons. All the while you seem to not want to give Eden a read (unless I missed something?) even though you both mindmelded on Trfel, he fakeclaimed miller and later you asked why people are voting for him, so clearly you're thinking something about Eden you didn't tell to the thread yet. So, what would your read on Eden be? | ||
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On March 19 2015 22:52 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back and saw a answer from Toad on my question regarding him and Palmar in Hammertime when they both were town: I don't a see a big tone difference on your entrance to this game compared to JOAT regarding Palmar and I wouldn't blame on you on that because as a Cohost in Hammertime I kinda felt bad and I shoulda warned him on his Kill Toad spam and I didn't if I recalled. Also rsoultin not wanting to give her read on me this early to Eden but I don't blame her because I rolled Mafia in JOAT when she was town and called me Town by meta and will have to bleed green this game. So I saw Palmar and Rayn going at each other and saw Artanis trying to stop it but I remember Artanis so townie in Imperial yet when he lynched Town!Palmar he basically looked pure Mafia (Scum if you prefer to use that term) so I might need to wait on reading him esp because he just rolled Mafia in Student VI which I was coaching the Cop and the Vet and the Cop caught him with a Cop check so ya I going to be careful reading him. Also he got a decent point about a chance that Palmar or Rayn are Mafia and the other town due to their interactions esp Palmar stuff early on about Toad and I not going to make the same mistake I did in Titanic and give a easy townread on Palmar Day 1. I also have yet to play with Mafia!Rayn so I might be a bit bias on him being town compared to Palmar so meh. @Artanis who is more likely to be Mafia between Palmar and Rayn and Why? @ExO Where you at on reads considering our past history with each other? Oh god this post is so mafia | ||
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On March 19 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Have you played with LS before? This is how LS plays. And he's not straight to the point and logorrhoic as town as well? There's so many parts in that post that make me wonder "why would you post this as town". | ||
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Can you use some spacing maybe. | ||
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Also rsoultin not wanting to give her read on me this early to Eden but I don't blame her because I rolled Mafia in JOAT when she was town and called me Town by meta and will have to bleed green this game. I mean, how does this fit into the post context? Is this a scumread on rsoulting, what does this have to do with Toad's question? LS just reads like a super nervous poster. | ||
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Did you at any point in time think that Eden was mafia who made a blooper when fakeclaiming? | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:14 Holyflare wrote: so what we've pretty much established is that my list post is awesome and you should all sheep me onto rayn ty We are the 0,000000001 percent | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:21 Superbia wrote: I disagree. I think it was interesting, but I could see the fake-claim coming from either alignment. I thought trfel's hard defense was much more interesting. I was wondering why he was willing to defend eden like that. In retrospect I actually completely forgot about it. Looking at his filter now it seems like he seemed unsure about eden prior to FF bringing up the fake claim. Which makes the hard defend more strange. Trfel, any input on this? Also I hesistated on Eden for a slight moment when FF came out with the info, as I said before. As it stands, I think my town read on Eden still holds somewhat solid. Then why call Trfel out and call his post a defense when he simply shared your own opinion? Gotcha  | ||
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Trfel argued in a way that would fit your own narrative (Eden town + fakeclaim not alignment indicative), so being suspicious of him for saying Eden's post was a joke doesn't make sense. Your only way of justifying that question to Trfel was saying that the fakeclaim made you doubt him, and here I smell a lie to make that question to Trfel look like it made sense at that moment, when it really didn't, unless you already decided to go after Trfel for other reasons, but then you wouldn't feel like calling out things like these to try and nail him in something that looks scummy. | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:31 Holyflare wrote: wait wait so explain this to me sup town reads eden and bla bla ff points out miller thing and trfel defends it superbia says that trfel is weird says it's not so weird because he hesitated on same point is that right? To give you a brief summary, I think that the way Super calls out people is mafiaish, and in this particular case I think he called out Trfel for a fake reason. Cause he suggested that Trfel had mafia intentions in not scumreading Supers townread when they clearly had the same conclusions about Eden. To make the story fit better now Super claims that the fakeclaim did give him pause about his Eden TR, but that is nowhere in his filter to see, so I claim he's lying. | ||
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Unless he's mafia, then he's doing a good job at painting a target on his back. | ||
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Some good soul explain to super why he's scum in the meantime. | ||
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The most notable thing was super arguing with Eden, I found that quite townish. His questioning of Trfel doesn't quite sit right with me but he has proven to be headstrong about his own position versus Eden and for that I will not push for his lynch today What I don't understand is why HF put rayn from 100 % scum to meh in place of SL. Or why BM is content with one post completely unrelated to the game as an excuse for not posting, looks scummish. Going to take another look at LS and FF. | ||
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