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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2015 22:08 GMT
#3021
Vivax Damdred is most likely town. Unfortunate, but true.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
March 20 2015 22:08 GMT
#3022
Then probably Trfel for opportunistic play and cause I coached this guy and he was able to bleed town D1 and in another game I played in with, and this game the feeling is entirely another.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 22:09 GMT
#3023
On March 21 2015 07:07 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
Like you're one of the only people I don't dislike on that wagon atm Palmar.

I like HF's plan of letting Vigi(s) do whatever the fuck they want tonight. Maybe we confirm one, maybe we force mafia's hand in roleblocking a Vigi over a RB.

if you think the wagon is bad, you should be voting the other.

we're lynching one of them or the other tonight. I don't really care which one. It makes more sense that Vivax is the mafia, but Toad made a bad play if he's town so I'm fine with lynching him too.


It's still possible that they're both town. I like HF's play. Let Vigi(s) do what they want, if mafia RB a vigi the tracker gets free reign, otherwise vigi(s) can confirm themselves (probably).
Uh, what?

First of all, I'm not convinced that raynpelikoneet's claim is truthful. Second, let's imagine it is truthful, and the vigilantes are both still alive, and raynpelikoneet wasn't roleblocked. I don't see how this helps us at all?

Please explain.


tracker tracks a vigi. They can see if they shoot someone or if they are roleblocked etc. This plan fails though if the mafia who CC'd is not the mafia vig
Ok, let's imagine that mafia roleblocks the town vigilante. If the tracker tracks the roleblocked vigilante, then town gets no information. If the tracker tracks the mafia, then as long as that mafia isn't carrying KP (reasonable assumption), then they won't get anything from that either.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 20 2015 22:09 GMT
#3024
The thing that actually worries me the most about all of this is how Damdred has gone completely mia. Could be because of his irl stuff though.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
March 20 2015 22:10 GMT
#3025
On March 21 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax Damdred is most likely town. Unfortunate, but true.


I hope not. I tend to read him later in the game as I once caught him just based on the inconsistency between reads and actions, but this game, based on that post on Alakaslam and his interactions with Artanis and since I'm forced to make a definite scum team now, I will have to go with this guess.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2015 22:10 GMT
#3026
On March 21 2015 07:09 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:07 Breshke wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
Like you're one of the only people I don't dislike on that wagon atm Palmar.

I like HF's plan of letting Vigi(s) do whatever the fuck they want tonight. Maybe we confirm one, maybe we force mafia's hand in roleblocking a Vigi over a RB.

if you think the wagon is bad, you should be voting the other.

we're lynching one of them or the other tonight. I don't really care which one. It makes more sense that Vivax is the mafia, but Toad made a bad play if he's town so I'm fine with lynching him too.


It's still possible that they're both town. I like HF's play. Let Vigi(s) do what they want, if mafia RB a vigi the tracker gets free reign, otherwise vigi(s) can confirm themselves (probably).
Uh, what?

First of all, I'm not convinced that raynpelikoneet's claim is truthful. Second, let's imagine it is truthful, and the vigilantes are both still alive, and raynpelikoneet wasn't roleblocked. I don't see how this helps us at all?

Please explain.


tracker tracks a vigi. They can see if they shoot someone or if they are roleblocked etc. This plan fails though if the mafia who CC'd is not the mafia vig
Ok, let's imagine that mafia roleblocks the town vigilante. If the tracker tracks the roleblocked vigilante, then town gets no information. If the tracker tracks the mafia, then as long as that mafia isn't carrying KP (reasonable assumption), then they won't get anything from that either.

and that makes me mafia how?
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 22:11 GMT
#3027
On March 21 2015 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:09 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:07 Breshke wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
Like you're one of the only people I don't dislike on that wagon atm Palmar.

I like HF's plan of letting Vigi(s) do whatever the fuck they want tonight. Maybe we confirm one, maybe we force mafia's hand in roleblocking a Vigi over a RB.

if you think the wagon is bad, you should be voting the other.

we're lynching one of them or the other tonight. I don't really care which one. It makes more sense that Vivax is the mafia, but Toad made a bad play if he's town so I'm fine with lynching him too.


It's still possible that they're both town. I like HF's play. Let Vigi(s) do what they want, if mafia RB a vigi the tracker gets free reign, otherwise vigi(s) can confirm themselves (probably).
Uh, what?

First of all, I'm not convinced that raynpelikoneet's claim is truthful. Second, let's imagine it is truthful, and the vigilantes are both still alive, and raynpelikoneet wasn't roleblocked. I don't see how this helps us at all?

Please explain.


tracker tracks a vigi. They can see if they shoot someone or if they are roleblocked etc. This plan fails though if the mafia who CC'd is not the mafia vig
Ok, let's imagine that mafia roleblocks the town vigilante. If the tracker tracks the roleblocked vigilante, then town gets no information. If the tracker tracks the mafia, then as long as that mafia isn't carrying KP (reasonable assumption), then they won't get anything from that either.

and that makes me mafia how?
It's obviously completely unrelated.

The only way this makes you mafia is because you are being defensive to the point of continuously misinterpreting what I'm saying.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2015 22:11 GMT
#3028
On March 21 2015 07:11 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:09 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:07 Breshke wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
Like you're one of the only people I don't dislike on that wagon atm Palmar.

I like HF's plan of letting Vigi(s) do whatever the fuck they want tonight. Maybe we confirm one, maybe we force mafia's hand in roleblocking a Vigi over a RB.

if you think the wagon is bad, you should be voting the other.

we're lynching one of them or the other tonight. I don't really care which one. It makes more sense that Vivax is the mafia, but Toad made a bad play if he's town so I'm fine with lynching him too.


It's still possible that they're both town. I like HF's play. Let Vigi(s) do what they want, if mafia RB a vigi the tracker gets free reign, otherwise vigi(s) can confirm themselves (probably).
Uh, what?

First of all, I'm not convinced that raynpelikoneet's claim is truthful. Second, let's imagine it is truthful, and the vigilantes are both still alive, and raynpelikoneet wasn't roleblocked. I don't see how this helps us at all?

Please explain.


tracker tracks a vigi. They can see if they shoot someone or if they are roleblocked etc. This plan fails though if the mafia who CC'd is not the mafia vig
Ok, let's imagine that mafia roleblocks the town vigilante. If the tracker tracks the roleblocked vigilante, then town gets no information. If the tracker tracks the mafia, then as long as that mafia isn't carrying KP (reasonable assumption), then they won't get anything from that either.

and that makes me mafia how?
It's obviously completely unrelated.

The only way this makes you mafia is because you are being defensive to the point of continuously misinterpreting what I'm saying.

lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2015 22:11 GMT
#3029
yeah that's what i am doing, obviously.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 20 2015 22:12 GMT
#3030
On March 21 2015 07:09 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:07 Breshke wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
Like you're one of the only people I don't dislike on that wagon atm Palmar.

I like HF's plan of letting Vigi(s) do whatever the fuck they want tonight. Maybe we confirm one, maybe we force mafia's hand in roleblocking a Vigi over a RB.

if you think the wagon is bad, you should be voting the other.

we're lynching one of them or the other tonight. I don't really care which one. It makes more sense that Vivax is the mafia, but Toad made a bad play if he's town so I'm fine with lynching him too.


It's still possible that they're both town. I like HF's play. Let Vigi(s) do what they want, if mafia RB a vigi the tracker gets free reign, otherwise vigi(s) can confirm themselves (probably).
Uh, what?

First of all, I'm not convinced that raynpelikoneet's claim is truthful. Second, let's imagine it is truthful, and the vigilantes are both still alive, and raynpelikoneet wasn't roleblocked. I don't see how this helps us at all?

Please explain.


tracker tracks a vigi. They can see if they shoot someone or if they are roleblocked etc. This plan fails though if the mafia who CC'd is not the mafia vig
Ok, let's imagine that mafia roleblocks the town vigilante. If the tracker tracks the roleblocked vigilante, then town gets no information. If the tracker tracks the mafia, then as long as that mafia isn't carrying KP (reasonable assumption), then they won't get anything from that either.


If mafia is not putting rb or kp (kp is riskier due to probable medic in setup) on a tracker (assuming that he is), it is a huge risk for mafia, as he can essentially solve a big part of the game by himself. If mafia plays it safe they allow the vigi situation to resolve during the night.

I say let's put the ball in mafia's court. I have plenty of others I want to lynch outside of the two vigi wagons.
Minimal effort.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2015 22:12 GMT
#3031
why am i mafia again Trfel?
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 20 2015 22:13 GMT
#3032
On March 21 2015 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah that's what i am doing, obviously.


interjecting an argument about your alignment into a conversation with breshke about what is objectively the best play here?

ummm yeah actually...your shit has nothing to do with what they're talking about except you claimed the role xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2015 22:13 GMT
#3033
On March 21 2015 07:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah that's what i am doing, obviously.


interjecting an argument about your alignment into a conversation with breshke about what is objectively the best play here?

ummm yeah actually...your shit has nothing to do with what they're talking about except you claimed the role xP

stfu dear.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 20 2015 22:14 GMT
#3034
On March 21 2015 07:12 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:09 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:07 Breshke wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
Like you're one of the only people I don't dislike on that wagon atm Palmar.

I like HF's plan of letting Vigi(s) do whatever the fuck they want tonight. Maybe we confirm one, maybe we force mafia's hand in roleblocking a Vigi over a RB.

if you think the wagon is bad, you should be voting the other.

we're lynching one of them or the other tonight. I don't really care which one. It makes more sense that Vivax is the mafia, but Toad made a bad play if he's town so I'm fine with lynching him too.


It's still possible that they're both town. I like HF's play. Let Vigi(s) do what they want, if mafia RB a vigi the tracker gets free reign, otherwise vigi(s) can confirm themselves (probably).
Uh, what?

First of all, I'm not convinced that raynpelikoneet's claim is truthful. Second, let's imagine it is truthful, and the vigilantes are both still alive, and raynpelikoneet wasn't roleblocked. I don't see how this helps us at all?

Please explain.


tracker tracks a vigi. They can see if they shoot someone or if they are roleblocked etc. This plan fails though if the mafia who CC'd is not the mafia vig
Ok, let's imagine that mafia roleblocks the town vigilante. If the tracker tracks the roleblocked vigilante, then town gets no information. If the tracker tracks the mafia, then as long as that mafia isn't carrying KP (reasonable assumption), then they won't get anything from that either.


If mafia is not putting rb or kp (kp is riskier due to probable medic in setup) on a tracker (assuming that he is), it is a huge risk for mafia, as he can essentially solve a big part of the game by himself. If mafia plays it safe they allow the vigi situation to resolve during the night.

I say let's put the ball in mafia's court. I have plenty of others I want to lynch outside of the two vigi wagons.


I am going to kick and scream for the rest of the game if you don't lynch Vivax right now
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2015 22:14 GMT
#3035
i am done with you rsoultin you don't need to argue anything unless you have a compelling argument which you don't atm.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 20 2015 22:14 GMT
#3036
On March 21 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:13 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah that's what i am doing, obviously.


interjecting an argument about your alignment into a conversation with breshke about what is objectively the best play here?

ummm yeah actually...your shit has nothing to do with what they're talking about except you claimed the role xP

stfu dear.


nope. you know i'm right ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 20 2015 22:14 GMT
#3037
On March 21 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:13 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah that's what i am doing, obviously.


interjecting an argument about your alignment into a conversation with breshke about what is objectively the best play here?

ummm yeah actually...your shit has nothing to do with what they're talking about except you claimed the role xP

stfu dear.

So rude to her
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 22:15 GMT
#3038
On March 21 2015 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why am i mafia again Trfel?
I just don't see all that much reason to believe your claim. That's all. I'm suspicious of you because your play has seemed very strange and illogical, and a lot of people were suspecting you earlier (I believe for not doing very much).

I'm not worrying about you at this time because you're not the lynch for today.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 20 2015 22:15 GMT
#3039
On March 21 2015 07:14 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:09 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:07 Breshke wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
Like you're one of the only people I don't dislike on that wagon atm Palmar.

I like HF's plan of letting Vigi(s) do whatever the fuck they want tonight. Maybe we confirm one, maybe we force mafia's hand in roleblocking a Vigi over a RB.

if you think the wagon is bad, you should be voting the other.

we're lynching one of them or the other tonight. I don't really care which one. It makes more sense that Vivax is the mafia, but Toad made a bad play if he's town so I'm fine with lynching him too.


It's still possible that they're both town. I like HF's play. Let Vigi(s) do what they want, if mafia RB a vigi the tracker gets free reign, otherwise vigi(s) can confirm themselves (probably).
Uh, what?

First of all, I'm not convinced that raynpelikoneet's claim is truthful. Second, let's imagine it is truthful, and the vigilantes are both still alive, and raynpelikoneet wasn't roleblocked. I don't see how this helps us at all?

Please explain.


tracker tracks a vigi. They can see if they shoot someone or if they are roleblocked etc. This plan fails though if the mafia who CC'd is not the mafia vig
Ok, let's imagine that mafia roleblocks the town vigilante. If the tracker tracks the roleblocked vigilante, then town gets no information. If the tracker tracks the mafia, then as long as that mafia isn't carrying KP (reasonable assumption), then they won't get anything from that either.


If mafia is not putting rb or kp (kp is riskier due to probable medic in setup) on a tracker (assuming that he is), it is a huge risk for mafia, as he can essentially solve a big part of the game by himself. If mafia plays it safe they allow the vigi situation to resolve during the night.

I say let's put the ball in mafia's court. I have plenty of others I want to lynch outside of the two vigi wagons.


I am going to kick and scream for the rest of the game if you don't lynch Vivax right now


You'll be alive? Interesting.
Minimal effort.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2015 22:16 GMT
#3040
On March 21 2015 07:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:13 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah that's what i am doing, obviously.


interjecting an argument about your alignment into a conversation with breshke about what is objectively the best play here?

ummm yeah actually...your shit has nothing to do with what they're talking about except you claimed the role xP

stfu dear.

So rude to her

yeah you could also explain why you read me scum when you have no reasons for read me scum.
this is the angry rayn game. You are all being shit, so this is what you get.

why am i scum?
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