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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 20 2015 22:21 GMT
#3061
On March 21 2015 07:20 Breshke wrote:
I'd be willing to lynch LS aswell simply because i don't feel like he is trying to work out these claims


I like where you are at.
Minimal effort.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 20 2015 22:22 GMT
#3062
On March 21 2015 07:20 Breshke wrote:
I'd be willing to lynch LS aswell simply because i don't feel like he is trying to work out these claims

I alreadsy made my conclusion that Vivax is scum and Toad is Town on those claims and Rayn is the unCCed Tracker and we got a pair of masons. Also I going to be gone for EoD as I picking up my dad at the airport but when I come back I will check the results of the lynch and figure out where to go from there on my reads!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2015 22:22 GMT
#3063
On March 21 2015 07:21 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
Stop voting claims jesus. If kp was reduced on vigis when more people joined it could be 2 vigis. We SORT IT OUT AT NIGHT AND MAKE PLANS. D2 is discussion day.

Today we lynch the guy that has done nothing at all. Scum read edej for being 3rd vote (done as town too) un scum read him and then afk'd THE ENTIRE GAME. 3 TIMES WITHOUT RETURNING


HF. Give me a small push more and I'll vote on BM. Are you familiar with his meta? Also what do you think of having a wagon on SL or LS?


Stop this shit. Vote bm. Who cares about his meta. I'm pretty surw he's spammy town and lurky mafia though
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 20 2015 22:22 GMT
#3064
On March 21 2015 07:15 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:14 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:09 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:07 Breshke wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
Like you're one of the only people I don't dislike on that wagon atm Palmar.

I like HF's plan of letting Vigi(s) do whatever the fuck they want tonight. Maybe we confirm one, maybe we force mafia's hand in roleblocking a Vigi over a RB.

if you think the wagon is bad, you should be voting the other.

we're lynching one of them or the other tonight. I don't really care which one. It makes more sense that Vivax is the mafia, but Toad made a bad play if he's town so I'm fine with lynching him too.


It's still possible that they're both town. I like HF's play. Let Vigi(s) do what they want, if mafia RB a vigi the tracker gets free reign, otherwise vigi(s) can confirm themselves (probably).
Uh, what?

First of all, I'm not convinced that raynpelikoneet's claim is truthful. Second, let's imagine it is truthful, and the vigilantes are both still alive, and raynpelikoneet wasn't roleblocked. I don't see how this helps us at all?

Please explain.


tracker tracks a vigi. They can see if they shoot someone or if they are roleblocked etc. This plan fails though if the mafia who CC'd is not the mafia vig
Ok, let's imagine that mafia roleblocks the town vigilante. If the tracker tracks the roleblocked vigilante, then town gets no information. If the tracker tracks the mafia, then as long as that mafia isn't carrying KP (reasonable assumption), then they won't get anything from that either.


If mafia is not putting rb or kp (kp is riskier due to probable medic in setup) on a tracker (assuming that he is), it is a huge risk for mafia, as he can essentially solve a big part of the game by himself. If mafia plays it safe they allow the vigi situation to resolve during the night.

I say let's put the ball in mafia's court. I have plenty of others I want to lynch outside of the two vigi wagons.


I am going to kick and scream for the rest of the game if you don't lynch Vivax right now


You'll be alive? Interesting.

Well I won't be lynched today I think. Thus I'll be around in n1.
I think we can both agree that I won't make it past d2 no matter of alignment here, right?

My rest of the game isn't very long but I'll kick and scream
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22360 Posts
March 20 2015 22:22 GMT
#3065
So anyway, Trfel, Artanis, Damdred to start with. Rsoultin I think I just hate the play as it's really distracting and not to the point, also all that offtopic stuff that made this thread so long for no reason, but I'll go with town cause activity as I did earlier.

Toad is the big question mark as I was sure he was scum based on actions and his CC but there's so many people suggesting two vigs I started thinking it might be true. Anyway it's his problem for the next day and even though dead I will still have a good laugh when he can keep defending himself post-my-flip, regardless of his alignment.

Super again displayed townish traits as he didn't take the opportunity to come at me when I called him mafia for not coming at me, plus the earlier convo with Eden. Might actually be town since he sort of defends me.

Breshke full null as I didn't even look at this guy.

LS and SL. In the game where rayn shot me I correctly read LS as scum post-death but I got a lot of resistance when doing it again. Maybe it was a lucky hit in that game and he really plays this nervously no matter his alignment? I'll go with LS being the scum and SL being the dumb for now, his answer I called him mafia for heavily lacked sharpness and seemed wordy + nervous and just more than requested for no reason.

Possibly also both, although I don't know who I would swap out for one of them, so going with both for opportunistically piling up on me when all of my possible mafia was an option for lynch (Artanis, SL, LS, Toad).

Exo is a noob in my opinion. Already had the pleasure to win a game for him but whatever. Insticintively going with town.

Big joker (Ie Toad = another vig): VE or BM. VE abandoned his push on Artanis after the claims without batting an eyelid. He claimed a "blue" (well it's VE) but his overconfidence coupled with the quick abandoning of that overconfident read is a strong contrast that can't be unseen. Possibly he was bussing Artanis just cause. See mafia LVI where he shat up the thread with scumbuddy Toad, the noobs won't even look at it but whatever. It's possible.

BM cause HF says so and cause I have to assume HF is town.

That's it I guess. Pretty much everything on my mind currently except the points on LS and SL I brought up earlier and you can look up yourself.

Bad players tend to never look at flipped townies so it's probably another wasted effort but whoever does knows I didn't lie. I'm not the master scumhunter but I do find scum when I'm not too stubborn about my reads.


rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 20 2015 22:24 GMT
#3066
On March 21 2015 07:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
Stop voting claims jesus. If kp was reduced on vigis when more people joined it could be 2 vigis. We SORT IT OUT AT NIGHT AND MAKE PLANS. D2 is discussion day.

Today we lynch the guy that has done nothing at all. Scum read edej for being 3rd vote (done as town too) un scum read him and then afk'd THE ENTIRE GAME. 3 TIMES WITHOUT RETURNING


HF. Give me a small push more and I'll vote on BM. Are you familiar with his meta? Also what do you think of having a wagon on SL or LS?


Stop this shit. Vote bm. Who cares about his meta. I'm pretty surw he's spammy town and lurky mafia though


done
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2015 22:24 GMT
#3067
BILL MURRAY JOINS GAME BASED ON FAVOURIYE FLAVOUR EVER. PROCEEDS TO AFK ALL TIME EVER.

COINCEDENCE?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 22:24 GMT
#3068
On March 21 2015 07:19 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote:
lol rayn doesn't seem that angry to me actually

maybe i'm nuts.

the emotionally less handicapped people should fill me in

I'd say he's about a 6 on the Rayner scale.


6 out of 10?

Yes.
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 20 2015 22:24 GMT
#3069
On March 21 2015 07:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:20 Breshke wrote:
I'd be willing to lynch LS aswell simply because i don't feel like he is trying to work out these claims

I alreadsy made my conclusion that Vivax is scum and Toad is Town on those claims and Rayn is the unCCed Tracker and we got a pair of masons. Also I going to be gone for EoD as I picking up my dad at the airport but when I come back I will check the results of the lynch and figure out where to go from there on my reads!



That's the thing. You seem so sure of your position yet you arn't trying to convince people that disagree with youthat you are right.

I'm not even against a vivax lynch if I had to choose between the two without letting who is on the wagons give me second doubts it would be vivax. I just think the better play is to leave them both alive and lynch like SL
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 20 2015 22:24 GMT
#3070
Vivax will be dead d1
I'll be dead n1
If you actually think I'm mafia I'm dead d2 instead
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2015 22:25 GMT
#3071
On March 20 2015 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
[image loading]

spent far too long on this

Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 20 2015 22:26 GMT
#3072
On March 21 2015 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:15 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:14 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:12 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:09 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:07 Breshke wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
Like you're one of the only people I don't dislike on that wagon atm Palmar.

I like HF's plan of letting Vigi(s) do whatever the fuck they want tonight. Maybe we confirm one, maybe we force mafia's hand in roleblocking a Vigi over a RB.

if you think the wagon is bad, you should be voting the other.

we're lynching one of them or the other tonight. I don't really care which one. It makes more sense that Vivax is the mafia, but Toad made a bad play if he's town so I'm fine with lynching him too.


It's still possible that they're both town. I like HF's play. Let Vigi(s) do what they want, if mafia RB a vigi the tracker gets free reign, otherwise vigi(s) can confirm themselves (probably).
Uh, what?

First of all, I'm not convinced that raynpelikoneet's claim is truthful. Second, let's imagine it is truthful, and the vigilantes are both still alive, and raynpelikoneet wasn't roleblocked. I don't see how this helps us at all?

Please explain.


tracker tracks a vigi. They can see if they shoot someone or if they are roleblocked etc. This plan fails though if the mafia who CC'd is not the mafia vig
Ok, let's imagine that mafia roleblocks the town vigilante. If the tracker tracks the roleblocked vigilante, then town gets no information. If the tracker tracks the mafia, then as long as that mafia isn't carrying KP (reasonable assumption), then they won't get anything from that either.


If mafia is not putting rb or kp (kp is riskier due to probable medic in setup) on a tracker (assuming that he is), it is a huge risk for mafia, as he can essentially solve a big part of the game by himself. If mafia plays it safe they allow the vigi situation to resolve during the night.

I say let's put the ball in mafia's court. I have plenty of others I want to lynch outside of the two vigi wagons.


I am going to kick and scream for the rest of the game if you don't lynch Vivax right now


You'll be alive? Interesting.


Do you think rayn is the real tracker?

Sorry I havn't paid attention in that regard. I have absolutely no idea. Pretty sure Rayn is mafia so I'd say no based on that but the important thing right now is making sure Vivax is dead and not talking about rayn when Vivax is confirmed
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22360 Posts
March 20 2015 22:26 GMT
#3073
Toad what are you going to say when I flip town?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22360 Posts
March 20 2015 22:26 GMT
#3074
Or if I flip town, just to take away the possiblity to say "you won't"
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 22:26 GMT
#3075
On March 21 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
BILL MURRAY JOINS GAME BASED ON FAVOURIYE FLAVOUR EVER. PROCEEDS TO AFK ALL TIME EVER.

COINCEDENCE?

he got stuck in a time warp

let's put him out of his misery
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22360 Posts
March 20 2015 22:27 GMT
#3076
Cause I want you to take that stance now and not think about it after you saw other people's opinions.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 20 2015 22:28 GMT
#3077
On March 21 2015 07:26 Vivax wrote:
Toad what are you going to say when I flip town?


On March 21 2015 06:07 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 06:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
ls is mafia with toad, the plan is they are going to get vivax lynched and when he flips vig play the "oh no there must be 2 vigs" game

except that I've been saying that there is no way there are 2 vigs in this game.

I even went ahead and wrote out that you guys should lynch me no matter what if I ever get in this and tell people I fakeclaimed Vig as VT because I'm not doing that. I'm not going to back down on Vivax fakeclaiming either. There are no two townvigs in this game.

Vivax might be mafiavig who fakeclaimed to get his shot off though, which Palmar is conveniently ignoring to vote me based on "toad would just wait"... no I wouldn't

Ok so in the hypothetical situation where vivax flips vig, what would you say? You'd just afk and let yourself die the next day?

That's not possible, I am drax... Vivax was mafia before the claim and he's even more mafia now. There's no way he's going to flip town.

I shouldn't be saying this but okay let's walk through this:
In the 99% chance of vivax flipping mafia I'll yell "told ya bitches!" while requesting medic protection so that mafia has to doublestack as well as RB me
in the 1% chance of vivax flipping Town Not-Vig I'll be mad. Seriously mad.
There is no scenario in which Vivax flips town-vig.


<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 22:28 GMT
#3078
Toad I don't think there's any chance you're getting shot N1 if Vivax flips town vig, even if you are actually vig.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 20 2015 22:29 GMT
#3079
In the literally impossible scenario of you flipping townVig I'll tell people I'm sorry and that they need to lynch me as fast as possible to get over this mess and win starting by d3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2015 22:29 GMT
#3080
Nobody cares about your petty shitty vig claim fight. There's loads of mafia let's kill them
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