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On March 01 2015 05:52 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 05:02 Tronak wrote:Finally this wakes up again. (is very boring for me to spend most of my day time alone despite being 1 of the 3 europeans in the game) Ok just 2 things, I must leave for a dinner with friends in some minutes: 1-Answering Shining- Shining my reads may be weak (this is my 1st game ever in case you didnt noticed yet: read the thread  ), now instead of being fully emotional on your defense, relax and keep defending, no problem. On February 28 2015 03:50 The Shining wrote:
Tronak good job on that conclusion. Too bad you have no vote up and even said in your post you wouldn't have looked at me for hours if Snarfs hadn't pushed you. If you're happy lynching me as scum team, why aren't you? Man up. What I see is someone soft pushing for a temperature check in the thread and seeing if my lynch will gain traction.
Artanys been in my suspect list before any you even looked at him, I am voting Artanys, I wont change unless he shows me he is town. (Read the thread ) On February 28 2015 04:10 The Shining wrote:
Oh and where did I join the Artanis wagon? On February 27 2015 12:46 The Shining wrote:
Artanis - scummy
(Read your own posts ) On February 28 2015 03:50 The Shining wrote:
And I was ASKED by FF for that list post, I'm not a fan of those but meh. I saw no reason not to.
And again, read the thread. SL I moved to town. Eden I'm town leaning but I'm really having fun watching her reaction to me being evasive about it. You, I feel can be scum especially after such a horrible post and I saw both scum and town points in your filter. And I don't necessarily read ppl I've never interacted with. Gotta admit I missed your read changings, you should have updated your list or dont throw spamm in your game. At any case this was a good point for you and a -1 for me. Will be happy to interchange more words with you tomorrow if needed. 2On February 28 2015 03:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I'll be around in like 2.5 hours. Can we have a big party here with everyone then?  I wont be able to be there in 2,5hours ( I wish), neither on 3 or 4, maybe on 5 for a very short time before hitting bed. So Artanis is set to be lynched right now. What happened to this Tronak that has been suspicious of Artanis "before everyone" except maybe Tormented? He just sheeped a Prob case onto FF(to get off the Artanis mislynch?) after saying he won't change unless Artanis shows he is town. Has Artanis done this, Tronak?
lol ninja'd by like 10 mins
this is what i get for playing smash and trying to read zzz
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On March 01 2015 05:52 The Shining wrote:
So Artanis is set to be lynched right now. What happened to this Tronak that has been suspicious of Artanis "before everyone" except maybe Tormented? He just sheeped a Prob case onto FF(to get off the Artanis mislynch?) after saying he won't change unless Artanis shows he is town.
Has Artanis done this, Tronak?
Artanis has done shit nothing. If no one wagons FFs and since FF has started to contribute to the game, I'll happily switch again into Artanis wagon, which remember I've been pushing for 48h don't make me look scum for abandoning it.
Read the thread ...
On March 01 2015 03:29 Tronak wrote:
Thanks for those inputs Prob. I could easyly switch my vote into FF, let Artanis defend without flew, and lynch him if nothing changes in 72hours. However I already gave him 72 hours and hit inputs are null other than we already know.
I keep being anxious to read: what FF gotta say, Snarfs' read on FF, Yamato inputs, wtf I would like this thread alive before EOD.
At this point FF refused to make an analysis on Artanis.
Therefore I lynched him.
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Now instead of spitting shit into me.
Can you guys tell me how you guys read Artanys "I have Few" post?
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And more over, whats you actual read on FF?
Answering both, will help me decide.
Meanwhile and to be consistent with my last post:
##unvote
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I mean this post:
On February 28 2015 20:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Guys, I'm really sorry but I actually managed to catch a flu last night and I feel like shit. And before you say it, I never lie about OOG excuses. Never have, never will. I don't see any way I'm not getting lynched today, all I ask you is that once I flip green is to look heavily into Tormented. I really think I'm onto something here and once my flip confirms my read as genuine, this should really cause some alarm bells to go off because I'm rarely wrong about these things. I'll try to be around here and there but I can make no promises.
##Vote _Tormented_
Can anyone give me his experienced opinion? Would Artanys use his "flu" in his /afk prelynch defense? How do you read the rest?
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nevermind theres a fairy recent one
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On March 01 2015 06:26 Tronak wrote:I mean this post: Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 20:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Guys, I'm really sorry but I actually managed to catch a flu last night and I feel like shit. And before you say it, I never lie about OOG excuses. Never have, never will. I don't see any way I'm not getting lynched today, all I ask you is that once I flip green is to look heavily into Tormented. I really think I'm onto something here and once my flip confirms my read as genuine, this should really cause some alarm bells to go off because I'm rarely wrong about these things. I'll try to be around here and there but I can make no promises.
##Vote _Tormented_ Can anyone give me his experienced opinion? Would Artanys use his "flu" in his /afk prelynch defense? How do you read the rest?
he's very probably telling the truth and it means nothing about his alignment
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On March 01 2015 06:38 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2015 06:26 Tronak wrote:I mean this post: On February 28 2015 20:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Guys, I'm really sorry but I actually managed to catch a flu last night and I feel like shit. And before you say it, I never lie about OOG excuses. Never have, never will. I don't see any way I'm not getting lynched today, all I ask you is that once I flip green is to look heavily into Tormented. I really think I'm onto something here and once my flip confirms my read as genuine, this should really cause some alarm bells to go off because I'm rarely wrong about these things. I'll try to be around here and there but I can make no promises.
##Vote _Tormented_ Can anyone give me his experienced opinion? Would Artanys use his "flu" in his /afk prelynch defense? How do you read the rest? he's very probably telling the truth and it means nothing about his alignment
Ok I thought the same. Anyone else agree?
And to those who have played with him before. Would he do this?
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I mean...
Since the start of the game I felt Artanis was treated by most players as a pro player. This was confirmed by 2 things:
1- Every time he was asked questions about others? he would answer giving some "free" (if he is mafia) reads who no one questioned. But actually only me (a bit of Snarfs, Deamdred and finally Eden) pushed him directly.
2- Snarfs posted a damm long list of his games.
If was in his position and about to be lynched I wouldnt post that "flu" excuse (which I want to believe). This will be recorded in his meta forever. Therefore my question? do you think this is "normal" in him?
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OK, Tronak. The haste with which you switched your vote was just odd to me and the tone with which you just defended yourself seems...well, overly defensive. Did me telling you to read the thread that one time get to you that much? I mean, I did say in my last post that you were sheeping Prob onto FF. But you said you wouldn't move off of Artanis unless he showed he was town. You moved off of him so I needed to see if you thought Artanis was town or not. You moving off the wagon you claim to have started because he hasn't offered us anything to a guy who is here and doing something before EoD doesn't line up. And it might just be wording but "easily" being willing to switch off of your main wagon to another just doesn't fit the tone you've had regarding Artanis.
That being said, I really am thinking we should give Artanis a chance here. There are quite a few players who had much more content and posts D1 as opposed to now. Artanis, yamato, Snarfs, Kelsier are names that come to mind as driving forces D1 and almost non existent D2.
And if that is alignment indicative, I'm really bad at this game because there are four names there.
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On March 01 2015 06:55 Tronak wrote:
I mean...
Since the start of the game I felt Artanis was treated by most players as a pro player. This was confirmed by 2 things:
1- Every time he was asked questions about others? he would answer giving some "free" (if he is mafia) reads who no one questioned. But actually only me (a bit of Snarfs, Deamdred and finally Eden) pushed him directly.
2- Snarfs posted a damm long list of his games.
If was in his position and about to be lynched I wouldnt post that "flu" excuse (which I want to believe). This will be recorded in his meta forever. Therefore my question? do you think this is "normal" in him?
Out of game teaching moment:
Really don't think much of it. As far as I'm aware people around here don't make up out of game excuses for either faction. if he feels like ass then maybe he's not gonna care too much about this game either way. Be lenient on people when they have valid reasons and try to judge them based on other characteristics.
Back in game:
Can you give some examples of the free reads he's been giving? Because that is an alignment indicator and the main reason I think he's mafia and it seems others do as well is because he hasn't been giving out free reads.
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On February 27 2015 12:46 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 12:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
The shining can I get a list post out of you by chance? I don't need reasons yet, though I may ask for specific reasons afterward.
If you're unsure, a 'list post' is where you show your reads on everyone in the game. Either by grouping them into categories (town/town lean/null/scum lean/scum) or by listing each player and your read on them individually. Probulous - town lean Artanis - scummy SL - null(I have a post addressing this) Tronak - null Yamato - suspicious, leaning scum Tormented - town lean Shining - town Eden - null Snarfs - town HTS/Kelsier - had HTS as suspicious, Kels play has me back towards town lean Node/Fecal - was scum, back to null
What happened to your read on artanis, Shining? You have him as scummy, he does nothing all day, now you think we should give him a chance? Like, from this list he was clearly your biggest scum read.
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On March 01 2015 07:29 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 12:46 The Shining wrote:On February 27 2015 12:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
The shining can I get a list post out of you by chance? I don't need reasons yet, though I may ask for specific reasons afterward.
If you're unsure, a 'list post' is where you show your reads on everyone in the game. Either by grouping them into categories (town/town lean/null/scum lean/scum) or by listing each player and your read on them individually. Probulous - town lean Artanis - scummy SL - null(I have a post addressing this) Tronak - null Yamato - suspicious, leaning scum Tormented - town lean Shining - town Eden - null Snarfs - town HTS/Kelsier - had HTS as suspicious, Kels play has me back towards town lean Node/Fecal - was scum, back to null What happened to your read on artanis, Shining? You have him as scummy, he does nothing all day, now you think we should give him a chance? Like, from this list he was clearly your biggest scum read.
That was very general, Snarfs. Would you like to read my filter and the multiple posts saying I didn't like how fast his wagon gained traction and wanted to hear his defense before pulling the trigger on him and then ask that question again?
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On March 01 2015 07:17 The Shining wrote:
OK, Tronak. The haste with which you switched your vote was just odd to me and the tone with which you just defended yourself seems...well, overly defensive. Did me telling you to read the thread that one time get to you that much? I mean, I did say in my last post that you were sheeping Prob onto FF. But you said you wouldn't move off of Artanis unless he showed he was town. You moved off of him so I needed to see if you thought Artanis was town or not. You moving off the wagon you claim to have started because he hasn't offered us anything to a guy who is here and doing something before EoD doesn't line up. And it might just be wording but "easily" being willing to switch off of your main wagon to another just doesn't fit the tone you've had regarding Artanis.
About my "tone". After 15hours waiting for debate on FF and Artanis and while I was reading Kelser's filter (damm long). I come back i find 3 people asking/pushing me about my swtich.
About why I swtiched so "easy": Prob's case looks good and by switching I wanted to push FF (and looks worked a bit, as he gave a full scan on Tormented). If we lynch Artanis and he flippes to be town. This could be very usefull.
On March 01 2015 07:17 The Shining wrote:
That being said, I really am thinking we should give Artanis a chance here. There are quite a few players who had much more content and posts D1 as opposed to now. Artanis, yamato, Snarfs, Kelsier are names that come to mind as driving forces D1 and almost non existent D2.
And if that is alignment indicative, I'm really bad at this game because there are four names there.
Artanys case is not based only by my arguments (Snarf's put some others on the table you may want to refresh). I would only switch for FF at this moment. Unless a really really good case appears.
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On March 01 2015 07:34 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2015 07:29 Snarfs wrote:On February 27 2015 12:46 The Shining wrote:On February 27 2015 12:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
The shining can I get a list post out of you by chance? I don't need reasons yet, though I may ask for specific reasons afterward.
If you're unsure, a 'list post' is where you show your reads on everyone in the game. Either by grouping them into categories (town/town lean/null/scum lean/scum) or by listing each player and your read on them individually. Probulous - town lean Artanis - scummy SL - null(I have a post addressing this) Tronak - null Yamato - suspicious, leaning scum Tormented - town lean Shining - town Eden - null Snarfs - town HTS/Kelsier - had HTS as suspicious, Kels play has me back towards town lean Node/Fecal - was scum, back to null What happened to your read on artanis, Shining? You have him as scummy, he does nothing all day, now you think we should give him a chance? Like, from this list he was clearly your biggest scum read. That was very general, Snarfs. Would you like to read my filter and the multiple posts saying I didn't like how fast his wagon gained traction and wanted to hear his defense before pulling the trigger on him and then ask that question again?
why does the speed of the wagon matter?
also we still lynchin artie rite
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On March 01 2015 07:34 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2015 07:29 Snarfs wrote:On February 27 2015 12:46 The Shining wrote:On February 27 2015 12:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
The shining can I get a list post out of you by chance? I don't need reasons yet, though I may ask for specific reasons afterward.
If you're unsure, a 'list post' is where you show your reads on everyone in the game. Either by grouping them into categories (town/town lean/null/scum lean/scum) or by listing each player and your read on them individually. Probulous - town lean Artanis - scummy SL - null(I have a post addressing this) Tronak - null Yamato - suspicious, leaning scum Tormented - town lean Shining - town Eden - null Snarfs - town HTS/Kelsier - had HTS as suspicious, Kels play has me back towards town lean Node/Fecal - was scum, back to null What happened to your read on artanis, Shining? You have him as scummy, he does nothing all day, now you think we should give him a chance? Like, from this list he was clearly your biggest scum read. That was very general, Snarfs. Would you like to read my filter and the multiple posts saying I didn't like how fast his wagon gained traction and wanted to hear his defense before pulling the trigger on him and then ask that question again?
I did see the posts, I'm just not clear on whether you think he's mafia right now or not.
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On March 01 2015 07:18 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2015 06:55 Tronak wrote:
I mean...
Since the start of the game I felt Artanis was treated by most players as a pro player. This was confirmed by 2 things:
1- Every time he was asked questions about others? he would answer giving some "free" (if he is mafia) reads who no one questioned. But actually only me (a bit of Snarfs, Deamdred and finally Eden) pushed him directly.
2- Snarfs posted a damm long list of his games.
If was in his position and about to be lynched I wouldnt post that "flu" excuse (which I want to believe). This will be recorded in his meta forever. Therefore my question? do you think this is "normal" in him? Out of game teaching moment: Really don't think much of it. As far as I'm aware people around here don't make up out of game excuses for either faction. if he feels like ass then maybe he's not gonna care too much about this game either way. Be lenient on people when they have valid reasons and try to judge them based on other characteristics.
Ok, thanks.
On March 01 2015 07:18 Snarfs wrote:
Back in game:
Can you give some examples of the free reads he's been giving? Because that is an alignment indicator and the main reason I think he's mafia and it seems others do as well is because he hasn't been giving out free reads.
He read "town" on me because of what he calls "my genuine paranoia". I never gave importance for his alignment since during D1 I've been seen as the "useless noob" so if he has to give a free read I am a good one to give for free.
I think he has a "few" more, gonna bring them from his filter.
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On February 25 2015 22:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Reading through I'm pretty sure Eden is town. Case on Tormented then backing away from it based on reflection plus his response to Yamato felt really townie.
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On February 26 2015 01:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 01:41 KelsierSC wrote:
Artanis what the.fuck you just caught this fool.
Lynch his.azz No, Damdred is probably town. His explanation makes sense, he just worded one post poorly.
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