On February 24 2015 11:13 _Tormented_ wrote: lol fine, here ya go before I have to leave work. Take it for what you will.
Player List 1) Probulous (filter) - town 2) Artanis[Xp] (filter) - town or overly aggressive mafia 3) Half the Sky (filter) - town 4) sicklucker (filter) - town 5) Tronak (filter) - no clue 6) Yamato77 (filter) - mafia 7) _Tormented_ (filter) - town 8) Node (filter) - no clue 9) The Shining (filter) - no clue 10) Eden1892 (filter) - either mafia or he is just being obtuse for no reason 11) WaveofShadow (filter) - no clue 12) Damdred (filter) - town 13) snarfs (filter) - no clue
On February 24 2015 11:17 _Tormented_ wrote: sorry meant that town for hts and a no clue for sucklucker
This list is just bad. To have so many town reads without any indication of doubt on them (townish, towny, null/town etc) isn't that bad until you look at where this post comes in. PAGE 11. On page 11 this guy has 5 townreads (not counting SL), 2 weak mafia reads (I counted artanis in both here because he is apparently both) and calling yamato77 mafia of all people when his only interaction with yamato is to ask about the fake mayor vote.
2) Artanis[Xp] (filter) - town or overly aggressive mafia so... you read him as.. town/scum? So null? If artanis flips mafia I would almost call this a thinly veiled warning to artanis that he should calm down. *takes off tinfoil hat* not sure why that would happen in thread rather than scum QT, nvm.
On February 25 2015 07:34 yamato77 wrote: Tormented is mafia***
Don't phone post kids
You had it right the first time fyi. Also, I do agree ksc seems to be scrambling to make up for any reads that hts might have given away.
So after listing HTS as town, he suspects kelsier for 'trying to make up for any reads hts might have given away' I ask: Why would kelsier not look at the reads HTS made and re-evaluate? I think if he kept all the reads the same he would be scummy, not the other way around.
On February 25 2015 12:29 Probulous wrote: Eden, why is your vote on tormentor?
he said he wanted an explanation out of me and I said why he seemed mafia at the start. Never took the vote off. shrug
Once eden starts pressuring tormented he starts playing really defensive. Answering for other people^ and generally trying to stop anyone else from talking about him
1) what about Artanis's behavior made you think he was "trying very hard to seem town"? 2) what about my posting was "obtuse," as you put it before? 3) what about the other 10 people you gave reads on? 4) what about the changes if any on any of those 12 reads?
1.) Just the feeling I got by reading all the different directions he was going in. Now he is either misguided or mafia. He wrote an essay with no real evidence against me and has done pretty much nothing else since to help the town besides get mad at yamato for changing his mind.
2.) You were obtuse because you were just spamming random useless shit with no value. On further observations, you are more than likely town.
3.) I had no other real reads, I just put town as a placeholder. I still think ksc is more scummy than SL in that argument.
4.) damdred is more than likely town as is Prob.
I JUST PUT TOWN AS A PLACEHOLDER?
THEN WHAT DOES "NO CLUE" MEAN?
On February 24 2015 11:17 _Tormented_ wrote: sorry meant that town for hts and a no clue for sucklucker
On February 24 2015 11:17 _Tormented_ wrote: sorry meant that town for hts and a no clue for sucklucker
On February 24 2015 11:17 _Tormented_ wrote: sorry meant that town for hts and a no clue for sucklucker
On February 24 2015 11:13 _Tormented_ wrote: lol fine, here ya go before I have to leave work. Take it for what you will.
Player List 1) Probulous (filter) - town 2) Artanis[Xp] (filter) - town or overly aggressive mafia 3) Half the Sky (filter) - town 4) sicklucker (filter) - town 5) Tronak (filter) - no clue 6) Yamato77 (filter) - mafia 7) _Tormented_ (filter) - town 8) Node (filter) - no clue 9) The Shining (filter) - no clue 10) Eden1892 (filter) - either mafia or he is just being obtuse for no reason 11) WaveofShadow (filter) - no clue 12) Damdred (filter) - town 13) snarfs (filter) - no clue
I love how im town without posting. Do you just start out everyone as town? because thats not standard so people might get confused. the word is "null"
As I explained I went to mark town for hts and put it on you on accident. Was about to post and saw I had nothing for hts and wrote town. I just find it hilarious how big of a deal people make our of it.
YOU DID NOT PUT TOWN AS A PLACEHOLDER
OK I found a huge lie. I am not finished with tormented's filter but I am going to follow the smoke toward the riff filled land before I continue.
On March 01 2015 04:03 Fecalfeast wrote: Oh you want my read on him now? I haven't dived his filter and have only looked at him in relation to artanis. Let me check.
I actually don't know when deadline is, I will also check that since people in this game see laziness as a scum trait.
Have you already dived in Artanis filter?
Yep, and since you've been so adamant about a detailed analysis I will no longer be posting an analysis. Feel free to ask questions though!
On March 01 2015 04:03 Fecalfeast wrote: Oh you want my read on him now? I haven't dived his filter and have only looked at him in relation to artanis. Let me check.
I actually don't know when deadline is, I will also check that since people in this game see laziness as a scum trait.
Have you already dived in Artanis filter?
Yep, and since you've been so adamant about a detailed analysis I will no longer be posting an analysis. Feel free to ask questions though!
been inflexible? sorry then.. I had to push you to do things as the one you just did: your analysis about Tormented. Which I liked a lot gotta say.
What happens if we lynch Artanis being the player that has tunneled Tormented whole game?
On March 01 2015 04:30 _Tormented_ wrote: @FF I am new on this site and my d1 is a mess and I know that. I promise you I am town even though my posts are all over the place.
Ok then, while I'm going through the last few pages of your filter, explain the following:
Did you use the word 'town' on your list as a placeholder? (If yes, go to a. If no, go to b) a. Why did you not tell sicklucker yes when he asked this very question? b. Why did you tell eden that you did use the word town as a placeholder?
On February 25 2015 15:42 Damdred wrote: The whole vote doesn't make a ton of sense to me but explain it and I'll reread it when I wake up maybe just to tord to understand.
I already thought snarf was making an effort to be visible, but without actually doing anything. Nord called him out on it and his response was a wall of text trying to justify that Nord was actually mafia instead. I don't buy it. If you think that makes me bad, then so be it.
If this is true I will re-look at snarfs. I must have missed that.
On February 25 2015 15:59 _Tormented_ wrote: lol whatever, I am not mafia and you will see that, but I see no reason to post again since everything I say apparently gets twisted around to be mafia.
Specifically who was doing this? This is a mafia trait as I said in my response to prob's case on me.
On February 26 2015 08:16 Probulous wrote: ##Vote WaveofShadow
Answer the question.
he's not going to be here
wtf are you doing?
I don't like a Snarfs lynch, he is active trying and willing to be wrong. Artanis is spammy as hell but so are others and he has been pushing his tormented case all game. He is at least active and trying to find scum.
Wave has done absolutely nothing all game despite being asked for it. Many times. He wasn't a lynch target so he just AFKs. Classic scum.
He didn't just AFK, he has a fucking job and a family
dude wtf
Right, sorry man. I'm not trying to be personal. I don't know what his personal circumstances are.
Fact remains though, even without answering my question he has provided nothing to this thread despite saying multiple times he would go away and think about things.
Your logic is sound and my vote on artanis is pretty much a waste anyway.
##Unvote ##Vote Wave
Prob helped sway you onto WoS? Interesting, considering that we know he is town, now.
On February 26 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote: Tormented don't waste your vote.
please.
lol, get out of my head!!
Also interesting.
On February 26 2015 09:08 KelsierSC wrote: why the fuck would anyone like tormented after that lynch?
snarf made some bullshit legacy post that offered nothing of interest, which he obviously didn't read properly. and that was enough to make him switch off him ? yeh , no
I found this when checking tormented in context. This post contradicts things that actually happened. Tormented switched from snarfs onto artanis, not wave. He switched to wave when probulous convinced him, which kelsier was only barely too late to be counted as doing as well.
OKAY so I need to hear tormented's explaination of D1 before I can make a proper read on him. He looks decently towny AFTER the whole town-as-placeholder debacle.
That said, I am now getting a whiff of scum from kelsier's direction. I smelled it from tormented's filter and it needs investigating.
I was using no clue for people that I hadn't seen anything from. I was using town for people I had seen things from but nothing that made me think scum. I used mafia for those who I read as possible mafia. I also did that list in like 2 minutes while I was trying to leave work.
On February 28 2015 05:02 Tronak wrote: Finally this wakes up again. (is very boring for me to spend most of my day time alone despite being 1 of the 3 europeans in the game)
Ok just 2 things, I must leave for a dinner with friends in some minutes: 1-Answering Shining- Shining my reads may be weak (this is my 1st game ever in case you didnt noticed yet: read the thread ), now instead of being fully emotional on your defense, relax and keep defending, no problem.
On February 28 2015 03:50 The Shining wrote: Tronak good job on that conclusion. Too bad you have no vote up and even said in your post you wouldn't have looked at me for hours if Snarfs hadn't pushed you. If you're happy lynching me as scum team, why aren't you? Man up. What I see is someone soft pushing for a temperature check in the thread and seeing if my lynch will gain traction.
Artanys been in my suspect list before any you even looked at him, I am voting Artanys, I wont change unless he shows me he is town. (Read the thread )
On February 28 2015 03:50 The Shining wrote: And I was ASKED by FF for that list post, I'm not a fan of those but meh. I saw no reason not to.
And again, read the thread. SL I moved to town. Eden I'm town leaning but I'm really having fun watching her reaction to me being evasive about it. You, I feel can be scum especially after such a horrible post and I saw both scum and town points in your filter. And I don't necessarily read ppl I've never interacted with.
Gotta admit I missed your read changings, you should have updated your list or dont throw spamm in your game. At any case this was a good point for you and a -1 for me. Will be happy to interchange more words with you tomorrow if needed.
On February 28 2015 03:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'll be around in like 2.5 hours. Can we have a big party here with everyone then?
I wont be able to be there in 2,5hours ( I wish), neither on 3 or 4, maybe on 5 for a very short time before hitting bed.
So Artanis is set to be lynched right now. What happened to this Tronak that has been suspicious of Artanis "before everyone" except maybe Tormented? He just sheeped a Prob case onto FF(to get off the Artanis mislynch?) after saying he won't change unless Artanis shows he is town.
On February 28 2015 05:02 Tronak wrote: Finally this wakes up again. (is very boring for me to spend most of my day time alone despite being 1 of the 3 europeans in the game)
Ok just 2 things, I must leave for a dinner with friends in some minutes: 1-Answering Shining- Shining my reads may be weak (this is my 1st game ever in case you didnt noticed yet: read the thread ), now instead of being fully emotional on your defense, relax and keep defending, no problem.
On February 28 2015 03:50 The Shining wrote: Tronak good job on that conclusion. Too bad you have no vote up and even said in your post you wouldn't have looked at me for hours if Snarfs hadn't pushed you. If you're happy lynching me as scum team, why aren't you? Man up. What I see is someone soft pushing for a temperature check in the thread and seeing if my lynch will gain traction.
Artanys been in my suspect list before any you even looked at him, I am voting Artanys, I wont change unless he shows me he is town. (Read the thread )
On February 28 2015 04:10 The Shining wrote: Oh and where did I join the Artanis wagon?
On February 27 2015 12:46 The Shining wrote: Artanis - scummy
(Read your own posts )
On February 28 2015 03:50 The Shining wrote: And I was ASKED by FF for that list post, I'm not a fan of those but meh. I saw no reason not to.
And again, read the thread. SL I moved to town. Eden I'm town leaning but I'm really having fun watching her reaction to me being evasive about it. You, I feel can be scum especially after such a horrible post and I saw both scum and town points in your filter. And I don't necessarily read ppl I've never interacted with.
Gotta admit I missed your read changings, you should have updated your list or dont throw spamm in your game. At any case this was a good point for you and a -1 for me. Will be happy to interchange more words with you tomorrow if needed.
2
On February 28 2015 03:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'll be around in like 2.5 hours. Can we have a big party here with everyone then?
I wont be able to be there in 2,5hours ( I wish), neither on 3 or 4, maybe on 5 for a very short time before hitting bed.
So Artanis is set to be lynched right now. What happened to this Tronak that has been suspicious of Artanis "before everyone" except maybe Tormented? He just sheeped a Prob case onto FF(to get off the Artanis mislynch?) after saying he won't change unless Artanis shows he is town.