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On February 26 2015 07:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 07:37 Snarfs wrote:On February 26 2015 07:30 _Tormented_ wrote: Sigh...that post does seem rather towny. I do agree with your opinion of artanis, but I believe someone posted that he usually does tunnel someone they think is scum. So the fact that he provided very little else to the entire D1 could possibly be explained with that. I just really dislike that I need to go back and read to figure out who he thinks is scum. If he was tunneling I'm pretty sure I'd know off the top of my head. I think it was yamato? Okay, I've made up my mind. You're scum. There's no way you're reading the thread if you don't know who I've been going after all game long.
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And what was the general thread feeling towards those people at the time?
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Nothing more...
Well I lost the focus.
Back to the point... ##vote Artanis[Xp]
Now... may I have reads on FF? (I asked you a couple of times Snarfs, I asked you too Shining).
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I didn't realize you had to stick with your initial reads the entire game and not actively analyze and reassess things.
Like the fact that Yamato shows up after his Artanis pls BS and votes him. Looking objectively at his filter, he hasn't given us a damn thing since EoD and its fucking frustrating. But I'm getting out of my tunnel. He really thought Wave was town. I could see his anger and detachment from the game as being real and authentic once I get over my anger over him not being willing to play. It makes sense and his willingness to still come back and vote Artanis after implying he didn't do what he said he would shows at least a slight investment in this game still.
I'm notorious for shit D1 reads. Another of many reasons I hate D1. Right now, I'm inclined to think I'm wrong on both of my reads(Artanis/Yamato) and could be taken for a run by scum, but I don't have any reads to make this anything more than a tinfoil theory.
In other words, I believe Artanis could be scummy but, like Tronak, could understand his flu excuse being a horrible one to get thrown onto his scum meta, as well as it being a genuine excuse. And another 72 hours of Artanis playing like this would only make it easier to decide on. And if I scum him off of D2 activity alone, I go back to Yamato and Kels and you to a lesser extent showing a lack of activity that wasn't there D1.
Eden, the speed of the wagon matters because I maintain that Town deciding lynches early in a Day and not analyzing or thinking things through gives scum a free pass for 48 hours. And wouldn't you know it, the content on D1 and N1 is almost 3x the content of D2. So I have evidence to back that statement up.
Also, when a wagon like that picks up that much traction that fast and no one stops to go, "Hey could this guy actually be town? Why or why not?", in my short experience, it ends up leading to a mislynch.
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On March 01 2015 07:53 Snarfs wrote: And what was the general thread feeling towards those people at the time?
About me, Tronak: I was being read townie/scummy/null not a clear trend. About Damdred: was clearly town for most since Prob's had refused his case already. About Eden: guess townie for most (not sure). About Snarfs: you were about to be lynched lol.
Btw I didnt mentioned Tormented/Yamato on purpose they were discussed many times already. So hope you guys know what Artanis posted about them. If not jump in his filter.
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Also, to expand, fast wagons could also mean scum seeing an easy mislynch and having one or two team members quickly jump onto the wagon, so as not to be the hammer and end up under suspicion the way I was at EoD.
Tronak, I actually don't like FF. Sticking by my feeling that lynching Artanis today isn't a good lynch anymore, and looking into FFs filter, I really don't see much town at all. He asks me for a list post(which he personally did nothing with. Everyone else has questioned it). He comes in towning Snarfs hard(that was general thread consensus at the time, I believe) but not wanting to give in depth analysis yet. We are now at D2 EoD and I did my best to give him BoD to come back to us with something. Blatantly refused to read 70 pages to analyze. I'm a newbie on TL and I've read and reread 80 pages before in an attempt to reassess an entire game. That excuse is weak. Doesn't know when deadline is? Red flag. A big analysis post on...Tormented leading up to a one-liner vote on Kels(filter full of one liners is why he's voting Kels). Hm.
Actually, work is picking up, I should be back before EoD but just in case.
##Vote: Fecalfeast
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just stick to artanis
he's mafia
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Lynching ff is very smart.
Lynching artanis is very stupid
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On March 01 2015 08:18 yamato77 wrote: just stick to artanis
he's mafia
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On March 01 2015 07:56 Tronak wrote: Nothing more...
Well I lost the focus.
Back to the point... ##vote Artanis[Xp]
Now... may I have reads on FF? (I asked you a couple of times Snarfs, I asked you too Shining). I got family stuff now so I'm gone until tomorrow probably. FF could be scum if artanis is. Otherwise I'd be more inclined to look at Tormented given FF's willingness to drop a lot of info on Tormented but switch off of artanis rather easily.
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On March 01 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote: Lynching ff is very smart.
Lynching artanis is very stupid
thank you for volunteering to be our next lynch kelsier
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Now the question is to give artanis another day or not. Ksc who do you want to lynch? Tormented? I like that a bit better then ff
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FF has actually played today
Artanis has... done nothing. Even though he knew he was going to be lynched.
It's really not difficult.
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I thought Node was town anyway
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I dunno about tormented
Mafia ir bad right?
Yamato and artanis both dont like him, you don't like him. Id lynch him probably and not wide eyed over it
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He played so? I cant remember what he did except take shots at me and vote me for no reason.
Node was scum, ff.hasnt changed that
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On March 01 2015 08:20 yamato77 wrote: FF has actually played today
Artanis has... done nothing. Even though he knew he was going to be lynched.
It's really not difficult.
But what he said about his ogi excuses is true.
Its like this. If you see a player thats 40% mafia or more you lynch him. And then you lynch artanis tormorow if he doesint bleed green.
Tormented and ff are not gonna add much if artanis is town he will. So it comes down to how likely you think ff and tormented are because artanis is fairly likely.
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Damdred had list of scum
Right people get lynched
Artanis is town
So node is mafia.
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artanis is mafia and needs to be lynched today /story
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