On February 26 2015 09:37 KelsierSC wrote: Honestly in your shoes I might have lynched Wave aswell. From someone new to the thread and maybe someone new to the game I can see how he looks like a "textbook mafia" candidate, especially with lots of people voting on him. I'm not holding that against you. Eden should probably know better though.
this right here is complete bullshit
I posted my case for four fucking hours before EOD and not ONE of you clowns could be bothered to talk me out of it. I asked Yamato to tear it apart, I asked you to engage it, I asked people several times to do something about it and not one single fucking person stepped up.
What the FUCK else am I supposed to do but vote the guy I think is mafia?!
I guess no one thought it was a good case until apparently the last 10 minutes when everyone thought it was good enough to vote on.
On February 26 2015 09:37 KelsierSC wrote: Honestly in your shoes I might have lynched Wave aswell. From someone new to the thread and maybe someone new to the game I can see how he looks like a "textbook mafia" candidate, especially with lots of people voting on him. I'm not holding that against you. Eden should probably know better though.
this right here is complete bullshit
I posted my case for four fucking hours before EOD and not ONE of you clowns could be bothered to talk me out of it. I asked Yamato to tear it apart, I asked you to engage it, I asked people several times to do something about it and not one single fucking person stepped up.
What the FUCK else am I supposed to do but vote the guy I think is mafia?!
I guess no one thought it was a good case until apparently the last 10 minutes when everyone thought it was good enough to vote on.
there was like an hour where people started coming out of the woodwork to sheep my case. if you couldn't give enough of a rat's ass to refute any aspects of my case when you had the chance, you don't get to act high and mighty about me being wrong, because you're just as culpable for the mislynch as I am. end of discussion
what? I said wave was town, I said sheeping a town read isn't scum indicative.
You voted and made the case on WoS and didn't get suspicious when people came out the woodwork to vote on it.
On February 26 2015 09:29 KelsierSC wrote: i understand this is a newbie game so I sort of understand why d1 was such a cluster fuck of scum like I could happily lynch anyone of this lynch right now.
SL, Tronak,Eden,Tormented,Node, Shining, snarf
your list literally consists of everyone i don't confidently townread + me
how the fuck does that make any sense to you
Just a list of badies/people I don't town read at the moment.
On February 26 2015 09:37 KelsierSC wrote: Honestly in your shoes I might have lynched Wave aswell. From someone new to the thread and maybe someone new to the game I can see how he looks like a "textbook mafia" candidate, especially with lots of people voting on him. I'm not holding that against you. Eden should probably know better though.
this right here is complete bullshit
I posted my case for four fucking hours before EOD and not ONE of you clowns could be bothered to talk me out of it. I asked Yamato to tear it apart, I asked you to engage it, I asked people several times to do something about it and not one single fucking person stepped up.
What the FUCK else am I supposed to do but vote the guy I think is mafia?!
I guess no one thought it was a good case until apparently the last 10 minutes when everyone thought it was good enough to vote on.
there was like an hour where people started coming out of the woodwork to sheep my case. if you couldn't give enough of a rat's ass to refute any aspects of my case when you had the chance, you don't get to act high and mighty about me being wrong, because you're just as culpable for the mislynch as I am. end of discussion
what? I said wave was town, I said sheeping a town read isn't scum indicative.
You voted and made the case on WoS and didn't get suspicious when people came out the woodwork to vote on it.
was never a part of my case
and i got a slight bad feeling about all the people coming out of the woodwork, but i had been given no compelling reason not to lynch wave and no one had bothered to refute what i felt were compelling reasons to lynch wave. i ask again, what the fuck else did you expect me to do?
is this a way of saying "what do you want from me?"
The case on snarf was much better so that would probably have been a good place to vote instead.
On February 26 2015 09:37 KelsierSC wrote: Honestly in your shoes I might have lynched Wave aswell. From someone new to the thread and maybe someone new to the game I can see how he looks like a "textbook mafia" candidate, especially with lots of people voting on him. I'm not holding that against you. Eden should probably know better though.
this right here is complete bullshit
I posted my case for four fucking hours before EOD and not ONE of you clowns could be bothered to talk me out of it. I asked Yamato to tear it apart, I asked you to engage it, I asked people several times to do something about it and not one single fucking person stepped up.
What the FUCK else am I supposed to do but vote the guy I think is mafia?!
I guess no one thought it was a good case until apparently the last 10 minutes when everyone thought it was good enough to vote on.
there was like an hour where people started coming out of the woodwork to sheep my case. if you couldn't give enough of a rat's ass to refute any aspects of my case when you had the chance, you don't get to act high and mighty about me being wrong, because you're just as culpable for the mislynch as I am. end of discussion
what? I said wave was town, I said sheeping a town read isn't scum indicative.
You voted and made the case on WoS and didn't get suspicious when people came out the woodwork to vote on it.
was never a part of my case
and i got a slight bad feeling about all the people coming out of the woodwork, but i had been given no compelling reason not to lynch wave and no one had bothered to refute what i felt were compelling reasons to lynch wave. i ask again, what the fuck else did you expect me to do?
is this a way of saying "what do you want from me?"
The case on snarf was much better so that would probably have been a good place to vote instead.
s0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0 much better that somehow no one could be arsed to prove it against the one guy who was vocal about wave the whole way
i can't stand this stupid fucking mindset. how nice and easy it must be to sit back, not engage people who disagree with you or try to convince them of anything, and then tear them down if they're wrong. do you care more about being right about wave or actually winning this fucking game? i can't tell right now
mhmm I'm pretty sure I posted about snarf to convince you, so did several other people.
On February 26 2015 10:03 Snarfs wrote: Anyone claiming I should be vig'd "to clear things up" in a noob game where a vig might actually do it rather than shoot for mafia needs to give their head a shake or is mafia.
9 3 right now means that if you shoot me and I'm town you move mylo up by a day. And I assure you, I'm town. KelsierSC, you dumb or scum?
On February 26 2015 22:14 Probulous wrote: Taking a look at the way the Wave lynch happened I think mafia got lucky. It was my vote which made Wave a legitimate target and the wagon gained speed from there. Wave was safe as houses with no-one doing anything until I changed my vote then in the space of 10 minutes (10:29-10:40) four people jumped onto the wagon. See + Show Spoiler +
Snarfs tied it up and Shining hammered the lynch but it is reasonable for Snarfs to push the other wagon and Shining jumped in too late to change the lynch targets. Anyway by this point the wagon was rolling strong anyway. I don't think Eden is mafia and besides his vote didn't push the wagon along, it was mine and the others that joined him. I made a major fuck up but my reasons are in thread. Even so Wave was at 2 votes when Snarfs had 4 and Artanis 2. The wagon really got going when Damred, tormented and Tronak came on board.
Damred's vote was a consolidation vote and he moved from Snarfs due to his legacy post. Literally this
On February 26 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote: ##unvote ##Vote waveLet's do this rd end masculine words have swayed my heart of stone
Which doesn't mention my vote 13 minutes earlier. Odd since Artanis and Snarfs were the lead vote contenders until my vote tied up Artanis and Wave and Eden's passionate cry for assistance didn't convince him earlier. Whatever, he hasn't provided the brilliant analysis he promised and has managed to lie low since I stopped pushing him. We lynched town cause he didn't participate so I am loathe to lynch on broken promises again. He clearly isn't in anyone else's sights so moving on. To be honest I'm tired of reading his filter.
So that leave's _Tormented_ and Tronak. Just perfect, the newbies. Tormented I can't tell if it is mafia or just blatant newb. Take these posts for example
On February 26 2015 07:53 _Tormented_ wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Artanis I agree about snarf's post and I agree with his lynch, even if nothing will come of it.
On February 26 2015 07:56 _Tormented_ wrote: I voted him originally for his post against Node that seemed a pretty big stretch to me, along with not helping find any scum besides that post. I actually liked his recent post with his actual reads, but that is just me. I could just as easily be wrong.
like three minutes later. He says bad stuff but he is completely open about it. I hate to admit it but Tronak is the same. I thought I had nailed him with his reasoning for voting for Wave
I never said I liked the lynch on Snarf. I have always said I find him interesting as a player to learn from (totally egoist point of view nad not "find a mafia" related i got to admit), thats why i'd save him over Wave
which is just about the worst reason you could have to vote for someone. You aren't voting for them because you think they are mafia but because you like how the other guy plays. If this was the only time he specifically mentioned Snarfs play it would be blatant attempt to find a reason to vote and I would lynch him so fast but he has actually mentioned this a couple times before.
(iii) Scarfs: null about him with big fear of losing what I find so far a very usefull player for my learning.
I like Snarfs, as said before, he results interesting to exist in my learning curve. However, is impossible anyone reading half Artanis's post would miss his tunneling on Tormented. How can you explain that Snarfs?
I just don't see Tronak thinking that far ahead.
Which means my two hours spent trying to work out what happened comes down to Damred again. It's past midnight here and I'm just done with this. I'll try and be here before day-break. I'll take a look at Snarfs and his side of the voting then.
Please post your thoughts, hopefully some of this was useful. I especially want to hear from Node, who has also disappeared from the thread.
Yeh I agree Damdred looked pretty bad EOD
I need to look at his votes but I remember he initially voted on SL with me, and then jumped on wave so maybe he just didn't want to be on snarf for some reason.
Hmm..tronak I actually like that post. I'll have to check your filter when I get back home to see if it makes sense but you explained your actions pretty well.
The thing I dont understand is you made some reply to artanis saying that you thought snarf was scummy. Like .."I alwabt to learn but there is no way he doesn't remember who you pushed" I cant remember exactly. but then you voted on wave so is it just because you liked the case on wave better.
Hmm also Yamato and I.wanted to lynch snarf so that gave you pause.
I think tormented probably replaces SL on your list.
Like in my mind sl mafia would probably vote wave there. He has a good excuse for himself.
"I called snarf and damdred town early and they are voting wave, " "ksc is voting snarf and I think he is scum" " edens case is good and wave did scummy things."
It would be easy for.him.to blend into the wagon rather than stick out as the non voter
EPT
