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On February 13 2015 06:51 IAmRobik wrote:Please don't make him SK
I agree with this but why haha?
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On February 14 2015 14:14 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 14:11 IAmRobik wrote:
I already RNG'd. BH is mafia.. FUCKING LYNCH HIM Voting thread not up if you are voting him...
votings in this thread i believe
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On February 14 2015 14:23 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 14:19 Breshke wrote:On February 14 2015 14:14 Half the Sky wrote:On February 14 2015 14:11 IAmRobik wrote:
I already RNG'd. BH is mafia.. FUCKING LYNCH HIM Voting thread not up if you are voting him... votings in this thread i believe got us a first post rule Nazi up in dis bish. saucy~~~~
Obviously someone didn't read the rules MODKILL
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On February 14 2015 14:35 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 14:35 Half the Sky wrote:On February 14 2015 14:31 IAmRobik wrote:
Ritoky is mafia btw Because....??? His explanation of BH was too serious
I think that could probably be explained by his disdain for RNG lynches
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HtS what have you actually gotten from all these questions?
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On February 14 2015 14:43 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 14:39 Breshke wrote:
HtS what have you actually gotten from all these questions? We're only 40 mins into the game. I have some preliminary thoughts right now. I was scumreading LS based on his first few posts on Robik, didn't seem like he wanted to commit one way or another, even though I qualified the read to a single post. He answered though based on his meta. Still noncomittal though. Surely he formed a read when Robik afked in Linux. Seems weird he wouldn't. I'm not liking the answers I get from LS so far, so tentative scumread. Scum lean on VA based on meta as explained. Ritoky, can't tell right now. Robik tends to troll a bit early on, but not enough exp with him to scumread yet. Was scum in the only game I played with him.
I don't understand the robik bit. Are you saying you think he trolls as either alignment? The wording also confuses me like you plan to scum read him you just dont have a reason yet. Can you clarify.
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Okay the robik stuff makes ense
On February 14 2015 14:57 Half the Sky wrote:
Breshke, what do you make of all the activity so far. Do you have any preliminary reads from this first hour of gameplay?
You town pending a cc
I also have a town lean on ritoky for no good reason other than vibes, he seems relaxed
I've given up trying to read LS early so good luck with that haha
On February 14 2015 14:52 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 14:37 LightningStrike wrote:
I didn't form reads on him for meta reasons but for stuff he did in that game like in Linux he hard claimed named VT and just did nothing in that game other than getting mad at us. Hmmm.... Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya that is bad play by Robik hard claiming a named VT without any pressure at all. It going to allow Scum to PoE on who is the 2nd blue. Above quote isn't a read per se, but it leads to one. Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 13:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Robik is uncc'd blue so he's town but I hate his claim though since it's easier for Mafia to PoE the 2nd blue. Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 22:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I was townreading him before. No because sicklucker always have a weird Day 1 and makes the game awkward almost all of Day 1 either through a trap or trying to coach people...... I also don't like Robik's claim but there is no counterclaim to him so he is a uncc'd blue. Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Robik is more likely scum than Damdred and HF so we lynch Robik next Day Phase.
I don't understand this but i feel i should
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I'll also be off soon got a mates birthday wont be back until tomorrow morning so like 16 hours
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I feel like Slam is trying to faith heal me
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On February 14 2015 15:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Also Breshke, regarding the CC, I'm no balance queen (yet) but how do you know there cannot be a second miller?
17-player game might be possible. 13-man based on Horn, unlikely.
There could be I just think it would be ballsy for a mafia to claim miller this early because if like 2+ other millers out that sticks you in the limelight because it isnt really standard.
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On February 14 2015 15:11 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:09 Breshke wrote:
I'll also be off soon got a mates birthday wont be back until tomorrow morning so like 16 hours English plus sunshine And I speak English plus surprise
um i guesss that is ment to be mate's. Mate meaning friend. I hope this is what you were asking
On February 14 2015 15:12 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:
I feel like Slam is trying to faith heal me How
On February 14 2015 15:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Hijole
But srs folks mah CHUPAZI
Whom u see in urself or others hey?
On February 14 2015 15:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Cmon, fooooolks!!!
If u r pleece identify with someone else duh. But plz folks is it no fun?
Come now the way of CHUPAZI calls
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On February 14 2015 15:11 Half the Sky wrote:Breshke, Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:06 Breshke wrote:
I don't understand this but i feel i should Regarding my quotes on LS...here's the thing. I asked him why he didn't have reads on Robik, not even preliminary. He appeared noncomittal at first. Didn't seem he was making any basis for comparison, just called him mad in this thread. But then in Linux, he'd given some reads based on that same behaviour. So my point is, why isn't he doing the same here or at least trying to compare? That's why I think for the time being he should be scumread.
I don't think LS as a player is one to commit to early reads without seeing what others think about the situation first.
I also think it is unfair to expect him to react to situations in the same way when he has been playing a fair bit and is activly trying to change the way he is playing. Im not sure if my point is coming across but I like your logic but i don't think it makes LS scummy. (so much for not trying to reading him)
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On February 14 2015 15:34 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:25 Breshke wrote:
There could be I just think it would be ballsy for a mafia to claim miller this early because if like 2+ other millers out that sticks you in the limelight because it isnt really standard. How so? Clarify the bolded please? Sticks me in the light, meaning that it makes me look scum? Or my claiming isn't really standard? Based on what marvellosity said in Horn (and he was town), you typically want to claim it as soon as you can. Which I did as I was here at game start. Later claims of it by any player are more suspicious (though I realise right now a number haven't entered thread yet). And this is the first time I've RNGed that role, so I am going off that.
Okay so imagine if you are scum and decide to fake claim miller straightaway not knwing if there are any other millers in the game. Then like 2 other millers also claim. I know shit all about setup balance but lets say 3 is considered too many for a 17 person game. People would then look into these people more as it would be more likely one of these was mafia.
So therefore i don't think you claim miller that early because it could easily put you up for suspicion especially D1 when there isn't that much to go on. Obviously this isn't something you would want to do as mafia.
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On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?
1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."
What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first? It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet. (1) Do you have an issue with this point? (2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise. (3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead? I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that? And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP
You do know this is eden right? Granted he normally goes somewhere with his reads even if he changes it every few minutes but i don't see how you think this could be out of the ordinary.
Also i think HtS is town so i think you are wrong rayn. If you look at it from a point of view where she believes miller claiming is the right thing to do (I probably still agree with this) and genuinely didn't understand that no matter his allighnment or who he RNG'd on BH would fake a case to get that person lynched her thought process or play or whatever has been fairly townie.
I can't see either of those two assumptions being wrong if she is mafia. I have already explained why i don't think she would fakeclaim miller as mafia. Also as mafia I think HtS backs down from that BH stuff ealier when she has Robik and rayn telling her she is wrong. The fact she didn't i think is townie
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On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...
+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] +On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH. I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all. On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though: Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.
Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.
Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike. Thoughts? HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...  On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck. On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw. On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?
I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you. at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't" On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia? then I was like ".....really?" On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.
But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku. now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him. On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)
These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to. Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..
Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything... This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before. And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here. But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others? OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why: (1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test. (2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger. Aww I like this puppy On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?
1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."
What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first? It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet. (1) Do you have an issue with this point? (2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise. (3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead? I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that? And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.
from my reading I have these reads rayn - scumlean palmar - scumlean LS- town HtS - scum puppydog- townlean/null superbia - scumlean If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post
Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?
You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.
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The emoticon thing is normal for her. She got called out on it when she was mafia for not using them enough. I don't know if this is more or less than her town emoticons nor do I think it is really worth trying to discern alignment from.
The unnecessary adjective thing sounds good though. Ritoky could you explain to me why this would be scummy.
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On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...
+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] +On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH. I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all. On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though: Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.
Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.
Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike. Thoughts? HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing... On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck. On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw. On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?
I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you. at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't" On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia? then I was like ".....really?" On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.
But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku. now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him. On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)
These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to. Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..
Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything... This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before. And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here. But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others? OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why: (1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test. (2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger. Aww I like this puppy On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?
1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."
What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first? It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet. (1) Do you have an issue with this point? (2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise. (3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead? I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that? And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.
from my reading I have these reads rayn - scumlean palmar - scumlean LS- town HtS - scum puppydog- townlean/null superbia - scumlean If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post Where did the scumlean on superbia come from? You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read. super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy. Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?"
So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious?
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On February 15 2015 07:29 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...
+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] +On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH. I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all. On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though: Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.
Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.
Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike. Thoughts? HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing... On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck. On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw. On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?
I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you. at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't" On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia? then I was like ".....really?" On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.
But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku. now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him. On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)
These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to. Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..
Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything... This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before. And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here. But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others? OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why: (1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test. (2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger. Aww I like this puppy On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?
1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."
What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first? It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet. (1) Do you have an issue with this point? (2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise. (3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead? I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that? And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.
from my reading I have these reads rayn - scumlean palmar - scumlean LS- town HtS - scum puppydog- townlean/null superbia - scumlean If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post Where did the scumlean on superbia come from? You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read. super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy. Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?" So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious? Why not tell us your thoughts on that?
I don't think it was serious so i don't think it is weird that he went on to question BH. He clearly misunderstood BH's RNG thing and had thought he had caught him in something. Yeah getting people to clarify it was irrelevent for them and shited up the thread but it made sense from his PoV.
I think none of that is alignment indicative because superbia would probably push it as town or mafia so I dont see how ff is scumreading him for it unless he thought the rayn read was serious.
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On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...
+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] +On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH. I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all. On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though: Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.
Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.
Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike. Thoughts? HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing... On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck. On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw. On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?
I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you. at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't" On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia? then I was like ".....really?" On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.
But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku. now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him. On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)
These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to. Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..
Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything... This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before. And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here. But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others? OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why: (1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test. (2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger. Aww I like this puppy On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?
1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."
What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first? It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet. (1) Do you have an issue with this point? (2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise. (3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead? I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that? And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.
from my reading I have these reads rayn - scumlean palmar - scumlean LS- town HtS - scum puppydog- townlean/null superbia - scumlean If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post Where did the scumlean on superbia come from? You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read. super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy. Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?" So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious? I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say: Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? and then Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? No i don't i am obviously just talking shit.... What? It was all a joke or some shit? if he was joking around ?
I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing.
Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird.
I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read
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On February 15 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...
+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] +On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH. I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all. On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though: Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.
Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.
Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike. Thoughts? HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing... On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck. On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw. On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?
I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you. at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't" On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia? then I was like ".....really?" On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.
But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku. now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him. On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)
These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to. Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..
Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything... This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before. And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here. But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others? OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why: (1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test. (2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger. Aww I like this puppy On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?
1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."
What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first? It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet. (1) Do you have an issue with this point? (2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise. (3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead? I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that? And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.
from my reading I have these reads rayn - scumlean palmar - scumlean LS- town HtS - scum puppydog- townlean/null superbia - scumlean If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post Where did the scumlean on superbia come from? You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read. super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy. Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?" So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious? I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say: On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? and then On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? No i don't i am obviously just talking shit.... What? It was all a joke or some shit? if he was joking around ? I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing. Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird. I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read Rayn addresses superbia: Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. to which super replies Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious?
Im dumb i should really read nested quotes.
So superbias scum read on rayn was because he was scum reading HtS. Okay maybe it wasn't a joke.
@Rsoul do you have any reads or are you just going to throw scum on everyone?
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On February 15 2015 07:58 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...
+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] +On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH. I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all. On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though: Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.
Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.
Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike. Thoughts? HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing... On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck. On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw. On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?
I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you. at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't" On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia? then I was like ".....really?" On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.
But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku. now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him. On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)
These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to. Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..
Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything... This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before. And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here. But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others? OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why: (1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test. (2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger. Aww I like this puppy On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?
1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."
What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first? It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet. (1) Do you have an issue with this point? (2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise. (3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead? I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that? And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.
from my reading I have these reads rayn - scumlean palmar - scumlean LS- town HtS - scum puppydog- townlean/null superbia - scumlean If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post Where did the scumlean on superbia come from? You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read. super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy. Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?" So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious? I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say: On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? and then On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? No i don't i am obviously just talking shit.... What? It was all a joke or some shit? if he was joking around ? I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing. Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird. I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read Rayn addresses superbia: On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. to which super replies On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious? Im dumb i should really read nested quotes. So superbias scum read on rayn was because he was scum reading HtS. Okay maybe it wasn't a joke. @Rsoul do you have any reads or are you just going to throw scum on everyone? Lol, of course I have reads xP Even some townreads. Actually reading people's posts does wonders. Do you have any scumreads, or are you just going to be defending everyone all day? (HtS, Eden, LS, Superbia, half-and-half me, etc. etc.) That bolded phrase is probably the most common sentiment used to scumread me in all my town games, btw ^^
oooooo that dig hahaha. I read peoples posts I just dont click the button to read everything
I struggle to get scumreads D1 town reads are much easier. I think that FF's stuff on superbia is actually really good now. I also think you are fairly scummy because you are posting but you arnt saying anything
On February 15 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 15 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this. town I dunnae. Coming into the thread to tell people where to vote is kinda blah imo :/
Take this for example. Is blah town or scummy, why is trying to clarify where people vote alignment indicative.
Your reads would be nice thanks
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On February 15 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 08:05 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:58 rsoultin wrote:On February 15 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
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Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?
You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.
super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy. Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?" So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious? I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say: On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? and then On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
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You think HtS is scum? No i don't i am obviously just talking shit.... What? It was all a joke or some shit? if he was joking around ? I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing. Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird. I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read Rayn addresses superbia: On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. to which super replies On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious? Im dumb i should really read nested quotes. So superbias scum read on rayn was because he was scum reading HtS. Okay maybe it wasn't a joke. @Rsoul do you have any reads or are you just going to throw scum on everyone? Lol, of course I have reads xP Even some townreads. Actually reading people's posts does wonders. Do you have any scumreads, or are you just going to be defending everyone all day? (HtS, Eden, LS, Superbia, half-and-half me, etc. etc.) That bolded phrase is probably the most common sentiment used to scumread me in all my town games, btw ^^ oooooo that dig hahaha. I read peoples posts I just dont click the button to read everything I struggle to get scumreads D1 town reads are much easier. I think that FF's stuff on superbia is actually really good now. I also think you are fairly scummy because you are posting but you arnt saying anything On February 15 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:On February 15 2015 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 15 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this. town I dunnae. Coming into the thread to tell people where to vote is kinda blah imo :/ Take this for example. Is blah town or scummy, why is trying to clarify where people vote alignment indicative. Your reads would be nice thanks Coming in to tell someone where to post and joke about them being modkilled is blah, which translates to at best null. It's just an entrance post, of course...but that you've managed to develop no clear scumreads since start of day has me leaning scum on you. Note the context of the post: I was contesting Rayn's townread on you.
I'm not going to force a scum read when i don't have any. You have played with me before i don't see how you think its weird i didn't have any clear scum reads.
Yes you were contesting rayn's read but you brought it up so either you were just doing that to post words or you thought there was something alignment indicative about it. Yet you came to the conclusion of blah which you say means null so why did you feel it was necessary to bring up?
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On February 15 2015 10:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 10:14 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:On February 15 2015 08:05 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:58 rsoultin wrote:On February 15 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:
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So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious? I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say: On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
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You think HtS is scum? and then On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:
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What? It was all a joke or some shit? if he was joking around ? I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing. Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird. I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read Rayn addresses superbia: On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. to which super replies On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious? Im dumb i should really read nested quotes. So superbias scum read on rayn was because he was scum reading HtS. Okay maybe it wasn't a joke. @Rsoul do you have any reads or are you just going to throw scum on everyone? Lol, of course I have reads xP Even some townreads. Actually reading people's posts does wonders. Do you have any scumreads, or are you just going to be defending everyone all day? (HtS, Eden, LS, Superbia, half-and-half me, etc. etc.) That bolded phrase is probably the most common sentiment used to scumread me in all my town games, btw ^^ oooooo that dig hahaha. I read peoples posts I just dont click the button to read everything I struggle to get scumreads D1 town reads are much easier. I think that FF's stuff on superbia is actually really good now. I also think you are fairly scummy because you are posting but you arnt saying anything On February 15 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:On February 15 2015 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 15 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this. town I dunnae. Coming into the thread to tell people where to vote is kinda blah imo :/ Take this for example. Is blah town or scummy, why is trying to clarify where people vote alignment indicative. Your reads would be nice thanks Coming in to tell someone where to post and joke about them being modkilled is blah, which translates to at best null. It's just an entrance post, of course...but that you've managed to develop no clear scumreads since start of day has me leaning scum on you. Note the context of the post: I was contesting Rayn's townread on you. I'm not going to force a scum read when i don't have any. You have played with me before i don't see how you think its weird i didn't have any clear scum reads. Yes you were contesting rayn's read but you brought it up so either you were just doing that to post words or you thought there was something alignment indicative about it. Yet you came to the conclusion of blah which you say means null so why did you feel it was necessary to bring up? Null at best. Learn to read xP So are you saying you still have no scumreads?
How bout you stop dodging the question and actually give your reads.
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Also superbia are you still around?
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On February 15 2015 10:34 Superbia wrote:
I'm around now for a little bit. What's up breshke?
Why did you not expand on your rayn read straight away instead of just dropping it in the thread and leaving. Did it not feel important to you?
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I actually really like puppys case and the follow up
##Vote KSC
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So im fairly sure superbia is scum here aswell
He opens up with a scumread on Rayn with no explanation. This is his response when asked why he didn't talk more about his rayn read
On February 15 2015 10:43 Superbia wrote:
I don't really like elaborating on reads until necessary.
Which is total bullshit as maybe one other player at the time was scum reading rayn so why would town superbia not try and convince the rest of town that rayn was scum. This is infact a great way to get town read because ive seen vets give newer players townpasses for going after big targets like rayn would be this game.
The only thing that gives me pause is that he then goes on to try and find a flaw in BH's RNG which is really awkward to me. Like he has a scumread but instead drops it to focus on the semantics of scum bh's RNG.
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On February 16 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 06:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
what is this BH omgus vote thing by ritoky? I already explained how he was playing very similar to when he played as Old Partner in golden sun, i was on his mafia team in that game. you did? I wasn't aware you had posted more than 4 times in the entire thread.
What's the point of this post
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On February 16 2015 06:44 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 06:39 Breshke wrote:On February 16 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:On February 16 2015 06:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
what is this BH omgus vote thing by ritoky? I already explained how he was playing very similar to when he played as Old Partner in golden sun, i was on his mafia team in that game. you did? I wasn't aware you had posted more than 4 times in the entire thread. What's the point of this post if you have to ask then you've missed the point
No i get that you are trying to put down VA when he told you you were wrong about something. I don't understand why.
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Why would eden go for a 1 for 1 trade there
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if you flip JK of course ill be lynching eden it goes without saying. A VT claim from him after you flip would be fucking retarded.
On February 16 2015 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Why would eden go for a 1 for 1 trade there cause he doesn't like rolling mafia
Are you making this up? I've played mafia with eden and he didn't seem too unhappy about it.
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BH you say we are bad because we don't realize this is your town game but wouldn't you push your RNG lynch no matter your alignment. What makes THIS your town game?
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On February 16 2015 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:On February 16 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:
BH you say we are bad because we don't realize this is your town game but wouldn't you push your RNG lynch no matter your alignment. What makes THIS your town game? I don't RNG as scum. Actually, more accurately, I haven't RNGed as scum. I suppose if I were scum and in the right mood I might. But RNG makes people want to lynch me and it's hard to dodge the noose as scum since you're lying about it, see?
hmmm
My problem now is that if you don't RNG as scum arn't your town and mafia games too easily distinguishable from each other. Wouldn't the fact that you don't RNG make you look scummier hence you would be forced into doing it as scum. I don't know what i expect you to reply to that but any reads you might have other than VA i would like to hear.
On February 16 2015 07:45 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 07:37 Breshke wrote:if you flip JK of course ill be lynching eden it goes without saying. A VT claim from him after you flip would be fucking retarded. On February 16 2015 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:On February 16 2015 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Why would eden go for a 1 for 1 trade there cause he doesn't like rolling mafia Are you making this up? I've played mafia with eden and he didn't seem too unhappy about it. I think he enjoys town way more. It's my perception that he doesn't enjoy mafia. If you want an example of his lack of enjoyment of the mafia role, look no further than the linux game
I agree that he likes town more but there wasn't exactly suspicion on him today so why CC BH when it signs his death sentence tomorrow if he is scum. Yes if he doesnt enjoy scum he gets to kill BH and get out of the game but he could have just let BH's claim go by keep doing whatever he was doing and just kill BH in the night.
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On February 16 2015 07:55 liancourt wrote:
so what made BH claim in the first place?
Some people say pressure, BH says he always claims when he is blue
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On February 16 2015 08:03 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 07:54 Breshke wrote:On February 16 2015 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:On February 16 2015 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:On February 16 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:
BH you say we are bad because we don't realize this is your town game but wouldn't you push your RNG lynch no matter your alignment. What makes THIS your town game? I don't RNG as scum. Actually, more accurately, I haven't RNGed as scum. I suppose if I were scum and in the right mood I might. But RNG makes people want to lynch me and it's hard to dodge the noose as scum since you're lying about it, see? hmmm My problem now is that if you don't RNG as scum arn't your town and mafia games too easily distinguishable from each other. Wouldn't the fact that you don't RNG make you look scummier hence you would be forced into doing it as scum. I don't know what i expect you to reply to that but any reads you might have other than VA i would like to hear. On February 16 2015 07:45 IAmRobik wrote:On February 16 2015 07:37 Breshke wrote:if you flip JK of course ill be lynching eden it goes without saying. A VT claim from him after you flip would be fucking retarded. On February 16 2015 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:On February 16 2015 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Why would eden go for a 1 for 1 trade there cause he doesn't like rolling mafia Are you making this up? I've played mafia with eden and he didn't seem too unhappy about it. I think he enjoys town way more. It's my perception that he doesn't enjoy mafia. If you want an example of his lack of enjoyment of the mafia role, look no further than the linux game I agree that he likes town more but there wasn't exactly suspicion on him today so why CC BH when it signs his death sentence tomorrow if he is scum. Yes if he doesnt enjoy scum he gets to kill BH and get out of the game but he could have just let BH's claim go by keep doing whatever he was doing and just kill BH in the night. You are scum. You don't like being scum. You see someone claim (basically) medic. You come in, claim medic. Get him lynched, trade yourself 1 for 1 and then mafia can kill whoever the fuck they want moving forward. It's not a grade trade, but it's not terrible. Especially considering the fact that there are way too many mafia/sk already and town basically has no chance of winning
Yeah i get this but it still seems like such a shit play. Looking at it yeah if scum or sk dont kill each other town is fucked so once again why would eden just throw himself away like that. The only thing that would make sense to me is that if one of edens partners was getting pressured but at the time votes seemed to be swinging my way so that cant even be it.
What im saying is that edens claim makes sense to me whereas BH's doesn't. I don't think eden hates scum enough to make such a shit play.
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On February 16 2015 09:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Like, this is why I don't trust anyone's meta reads. Here's a lesson for you new kids about meta: you need to look at the counterexample. For example, say we say "Blazinghand is always spammy as scum". Well, guess what, that's true, but I'm also spammy as town. Or, "Blazinghand makes claims as scum" well, sure, I've fakeclaimed as scum, but that doesn't mean that every time I claim I'm scum. In fact, 90% of the time that I claim, I'm town.
ALSO, look at it this way. This is a 17player setup with 5 scum-- town obviously has a good number of PRs. Town has only 4 types of PR, and JK is like the only active saver, so town DEFINITELY has a JK. If I'm scum, why would I claim JK? If I'm scum, I KNOW there's a JK somewhere out there, and I KNOW I'm gonna get CCed. I was under some pressure, sure, but if I were really scum I'd wait until later with the claim when tehre wasn't time for a CC. Jesus christ people, think about it for a moment. Just because I claimed first doesn't make me scum; as scum I'd be anticipating a CC.
The second paragraph is really convincing. The only reason i can give is to bait out the JK but that has the same problem as eden's claim in that I don't think mafia go for a 1 for 1 trade there and obviously there's your point that you would do it later so there wasn't as much time.
I've got to afk for 2 hours be back then
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TP why do you just shutdown BH's post about there being a possible 2 JK's. If you arn't up to date with the game why is it impossible for you to think if you are town BH could also be town.
I could understand this if you had been scum reading him beforehand but you haven't in fact you seemed to be happy to go along with his RNG lynch for a while so you couldn't have thought he was that scummy.
If BH had never claimed or had claimed a different role would you be scum reading him right now?
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On February 16 2015 12:23 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
TP why do you just shutdown BH's post about there being a possible 2 JK's. If you arn't up to date with the game why is it impossible for you to think if you are town BH could also be town.
I could understand this if you had been scum reading him beforehand but you haven't in fact you seemed to be happy to go along with his RNG lynch for a while so you couldn't have thought he was that scummy.
If BH had never claimed or had claimed a different role would you be scum reading him right now?
Because (1) Two jailers is really weird from a design standpoint IMO. I've never seen or heard of it. (2) Two jailers with the same name borders on bastard game. Read the flavor in the OP. the PRs are clearly individual characters. Why would there be flavor indicating the PRs are unique persons... In a game with multiple copies of one role?
This is all setup stuff. What do you think about BH's alignment outside of his claim?
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On February 16 2015 12:41 Superbia wrote:
Breshke does your alignment differ from mine?
I don't fucking know anymore dude.
On February 16 2015 12:37 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 12:36 Town Puppy wrote:On February 16 2015 12:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On February 16 2015 12:23 Town Puppy wrote:On February 16 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
TP why do you just shutdown BH's post about there being a possible 2 JK's. If you arn't up to date with the game why is it impossible for you to think if you are town BH could also be town.
I could understand this if you had been scum reading him beforehand but you haven't in fact you seemed to be happy to go along with his RNG lynch for a while so you couldn't have thought he was that scummy.
If BH had never claimed or had claimed a different role would you be scum reading him right now?
Because (1) Two jailers is really weird from a design standpoint IMO. I've never seen or heard of it. (2) Two jailers with the same name borders on bastard game. Read the flavor in the OP. the PRs are clearly individual characters. Why would there be flavor indicating the PRs are unique persons... In a game with multiple copies of one role? This being a Blackadder game is significant in relation to that dynamic. That's all I can say. ...um. Someone help. I'm out if my element with flavor and this sounds big Lord Percy Percy (Tim McInnerny) is the name given to a pair of related characters. (wiki) Yup.
I don't even know why you would give us this as mafia or if it actually means there would be two JK's. You said you had the game "solved" who else is scum other than LS?
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LS I never said superbia was mafia for meta reasons. I also doubt a mafia comes in and saves us from what was going to be a shit show. Do you still think he is mafia LS?
Our JK's are both still probably useless because they are both claimed so we are probably still fucked
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##Vote Lian
I'm willing to consolidate somewhere else but what BH says is good. Also looking at his filter other than the JK shit lian has only had a shitty push on fecal for trying.
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On February 16 2015 12:50 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 12:48 LightningStrike wrote:
But I still got a slight meta scum read on you it just people were calling you town instead other than Breshke and Rayn who agreed with me. I dislike Rayn and I kind of dislike Breshke atm. Trenderino?
On February 16 2015 13:11 Superbia wrote:
Mafia:
-LS
-Kelsier
-rayn
-lian (why the fuck not)
Lean mafia:
- FF
- HtS
Why did i not make your list?
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Also i don't see the thing about LS playing on the situation is there any specific posts you were referring to? I'm historically bad at reading this guy
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On February 16 2015 13:21 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:On February 16 2015 12:50 Superbia wrote:On February 16 2015 12:48 LightningStrike wrote:
But I still got a slight meta scum read on you it just people were calling you town instead other than Breshke and Rayn who agreed with me. I dislike Rayn and I kind of dislike Breshke atm. Trenderino? On February 16 2015 13:11 Superbia wrote:
Mafia:
-LS
-Kelsier
-rayn
-lian (why the fuck not)
Lean mafia:
- FF
- HtS Why did i not make your list? You flipped your read on me. I'm weak to that sort of shit. Also I would kind of look like a garbage player if my mafia circle was too big. You're not really that town though.
hahahahahaaha ehh if it makes you read me right ill take it
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On February 16 2015 13:45 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 04:30 LightningStrike wrote:On February 16 2015 04:08 Half the Sky wrote:On February 16 2015 04:05 Blazinghand wrote:
So, just to be clear, nobody here actually thinks Vayne is useful. All you think is that he has a meta of not playing during D1 so he should be allowed to live. Well, there's no argument I can make against that. Follow the RNG for glory, or be left behind in the darkness. Just saw this. Where are your reads on others? Or if you live to D2 and beyond are you going to keep RNGing people? Step it up Blazinghand. Now. ##unvote
##vote Blazinghand I think he only RNG's his lynches as town lol...... Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 05:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay with Eden counterclaiming BH's claim I think BH might be Mafia now.
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##Vote: Blazinghand which is weird because earlier he asked about eden. Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 11:34 LightningStrike wrote:rsoultin what you think of Eden? Also I starting to like ritoky this game  maybe I'm misinterpreting this but I usually like to ask people about people I'm scumleaning or undecided on. Why would he side with his undecided/unsure read when he already called BH town?
I get where you are going here but BH also looked the scummiest from those two claims on the surface. Look at it just from the claims point of view who do you think was scummier someone who claimed randomly or the person the CC'd that person.
Im not saying LS is town i just understand how his BH/eden read developed
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BH or any other person who does setup shit is 2 millers and 2 JK's too town sided? I still don't think HTS claims miller there as mafia too ballsy
I'm out will be around later but im off for now
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Sorry for replacing out of this especially to my scum team and damdred my sister got hit by a drunk driver and lives in a different state so i went to go visit her.
GG everyone
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Is it weird that from my limited experiance with rayn i think he is a really patient and calm player
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Yeah no permanent injuries so she will be fine and thankyou
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