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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 14 2015 22:50 GMT
#681
On February 15 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...



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On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.

I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all.

On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


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On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...

On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck.

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw.

On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?

I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you.

at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't"

On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia?

then I was like ".....really?"
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.

now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him.

On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)

These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to.

Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor

On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:
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On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?

OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why:

(1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test.
(2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger.

Aww I like this puppy

On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP

please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.





from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post


Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?

You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.

super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy.

Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?"


So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious?

I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

and then
On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

No i don't i am obviously just talking shit....


What? It was all a joke or some shit?

if he was joking around ?


I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing.

Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird.

I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read

Rayn addresses superbia:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.

to which super replies
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious?


Im dumb i should really read nested quotes.

So superbias scum read on rayn was because he was scum reading HtS. Okay maybe it wasn't a joke.

@Rsoul do you have any reads or are you just going to throw scum on everyone?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 22:58 GMT
#682
On February 15 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...



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On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.

I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all.

On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


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On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...

On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck.

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw.

On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?

I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you.

at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't"

On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia?

then I was like ".....really?"
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.

now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him.

On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)

These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to.

Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor

On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?

OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why:

(1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test.
(2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger.

Aww I like this puppy

On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP

please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.





from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post


Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?

You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.

super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy.

Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?"


So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious?

I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

and then
On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

No i don't i am obviously just talking shit....


What? It was all a joke or some shit?

if he was joking around ?


I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing.

Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird.

I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read

Rayn addresses superbia:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.

to which super replies
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious?


Im dumb i should really read nested quotes.

So superbias scum read on rayn was because he was scum reading HtS. Okay maybe it wasn't a joke.

@Rsoul do you have any reads or are you just going to throw scum on everyone?


Lol, of course I have reads xP Even some townreads. Actually reading people's posts does wonders.

Do you have any scumreads, or are you just going to be defending everyone all day? (HtS, Eden, LS, Superbia, half-and-half me, etc. etc.)

That bolded phrase is probably the most common sentiment used to scumread me in all my town games, btw ^^

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 14 2015 23:04 GMT
#683
I'm here boys.
Minimal effort.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 14 2015 23:05 GMT
#684
On February 15 2015 07:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...



+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] +
On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.

I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all.

On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...

On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck.

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw.

On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?

I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you.

at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't"

On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia?

then I was like ".....really?"
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.

now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him.

On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)

These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to.

Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor

On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?

OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why:

(1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test.
(2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger.

Aww I like this puppy

On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP

please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.





from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post


Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?

You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.

super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy.

Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?"


So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious?

I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

and then
On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

No i don't i am obviously just talking shit....


What? It was all a joke or some shit?

if he was joking around ?


I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing.

Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird.

I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read

Rayn addresses superbia:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.

to which super replies
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious?


Im dumb i should really read nested quotes.

So superbias scum read on rayn was because he was scum reading HtS. Okay maybe it wasn't a joke.

@Rsoul do you have any reads or are you just going to throw scum on everyone?


Lol, of course I have reads xP Even some townreads. Actually reading people's posts does wonders.

Do you have any scumreads, or are you just going to be defending everyone all day? (HtS, Eden, LS, Superbia, half-and-half me, etc. etc.)

That bolded phrase is probably the most common sentiment used to scumread me in all my town games, btw ^^



oooooo that dig hahaha. I read peoples posts I just dont click the button to read everything

I struggle to get scumreads D1 town reads are much easier. I think that FF's stuff on superbia is actually really good now. I also think you are fairly scummy because you are posting but you arnt saying anything

On February 15 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 15 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this.

town


I dunnae. Coming into the thread to tell people where to vote is kinda blah imo :/


Take this for example. Is blah town or scummy, why is trying to clarify where people vote alignment indicative.

Your reads would be nice thanks
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 23:06 GMT
#685
On February 15 2015 08:04 Superbia wrote:
I'm here boys.

Be more town.
Thx
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 23:09 GMT
#686
On February 15 2015 08:05 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:58 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...



+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] +
On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.

I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all.

On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...

On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck.

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw.

On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?

I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you.

at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't"

On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia?

then I was like ".....really?"
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.

now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him.

On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)

These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to.

Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor

On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?

OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why:

(1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test.
(2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger.

Aww I like this puppy

On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP

please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.





from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post


Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?

You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.

super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy.

Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?"


So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious?

I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

and then
On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

No i don't i am obviously just talking shit....


What? It was all a joke or some shit?

if he was joking around ?


I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing.

Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird.

I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read

Rayn addresses superbia:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.

to which super replies
On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious?


Im dumb i should really read nested quotes.

So superbias scum read on rayn was because he was scum reading HtS. Okay maybe it wasn't a joke.

@Rsoul do you have any reads or are you just going to throw scum on everyone?


Lol, of course I have reads xP Even some townreads. Actually reading people's posts does wonders.

Do you have any scumreads, or are you just going to be defending everyone all day? (HtS, Eden, LS, Superbia, half-and-half me, etc. etc.)

That bolded phrase is probably the most common sentiment used to scumread me in all my town games, btw ^^



oooooo that dig hahaha. I read peoples posts I just dont click the button to read everything

I struggle to get scumreads D1 town reads are much easier. I think that FF's stuff on superbia is actually really good now. I also think you are fairly scummy because you are posting but you arnt saying anything

Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 15 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this.

town


I dunnae. Coming into the thread to tell people where to vote is kinda blah imo :/


Take this for example. Is blah town or scummy, why is trying to clarify where people vote alignment indicative.

Your reads would be nice thanks


Coming in to tell someone where to post and joke about them being modkilled is blah, which translates to at best null. It's just an entrance post, of course...but that you've managed to develop no clear scumreads since start of day has me leaning scum on you. Note the context of the post: I was contesting Rayn's townread on you.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 14 2015 23:10 GMT
#687
So my read on rayn was somewhat serious. I read HtS town for the miller claim. Why? Because it was claimed literally a minute into the game. HtS is fairly new to TL mafia (iirc), and not a veteran. Is a non-veteran player going to claim miller without consulting his or her team mates first? Doubtful. It seems like a solo initiative. Is a non-vet SK going to put a spotlight on himself early on? Also doubtful.

Ryan's read was lazy and added nothing (iirc/imo). Probable scum.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 14 2015 23:12 GMT
#688
On February 15 2015 08:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 08:04 Superbia wrote:
I'm here boys.

Be more town.
Thx


I'm already town. On a lack of sleep so lacking reading comprehension. What you up to FF?
Minimal effort.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 14 2015 23:12 GMT
#689
On February 15 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote:
on a completely unrelated note, while exploring other things I forgot about my childhood thanks to slam; I stumbled across this gem:

[image loading]

can you name the people in this picture slam?

I didn't watch recess; my mother was a school principal and hated the show (among others) because the portrayal of the principal was always as some ogre or dunce.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 23:13 GMT
#690
On February 15 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 08:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 08:04 Superbia wrote:
I'm here boys.

Be more town.
Thx


I'm already town. On a lack of sleep so lacking reading comprehension. What you up to FF?

I agree rayn could be scum but I also think you might be scum. Mind giving me something juicy to chew on? I'm off to work soon.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 14 2015 23:13 GMT
#691
Someone talk to me because I don't really have the energies to read deep into these posts atm. I'll give team of 4 (>= 2) mafai tomorrow, promise.
Minimal effort.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 14 2015 23:13 GMT
#692
On February 15 2015 07:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote:
on a completely unrelated note, while exploring other things I forgot about my childhood thanks to slam; I stumbled across this gem:

[image loading]

can you name the people in this picture slam?

'The General', Carlton, Arnold from hey arnold with his head rotated 90º, Racist Randy, Cartman, Ellen DeGeneres

+ Show Spoiler +
JK I love recess

This is hilarious
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 14 2015 23:14 GMT
#693
Why so lazy?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 14 2015 23:14 GMT
#694
On February 15 2015 08:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote:
on a completely unrelated note, while exploring other things I forgot about my childhood thanks to slam; I stumbled across this gem:

[image loading]

can you name the people in this picture slam?

I didn't watch recess; my mother was a school principal and hated the show (among others) because the portrayal of the principal was always as some ogre or dunce.


how about the CHUPAZI in this one then?

[image loading]
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 14 2015 23:15 GMT
#695
On February 15 2015 08:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote:
On February 15 2015 08:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 08:04 Superbia wrote:
I'm here boys.

Be more town.
Thx


I'm already town. On a lack of sleep so lacking reading comprehension. What you up to FF?

I agree rayn could be scum but I also think you might be scum. Mind giving me something juicy to chew on? I'm off to work soon.


I had a gut-read on you earlier but I don't really want to follow up on it right now. I'll revisit it later. Puppy guy read me town way too easily for an absolute shit reason. Feels like pocket. Feels like mafia.
Minimal effort.
Town Puppy
Profile Joined February 2015
United States167 Posts
February 14 2015 23:16 GMT
#696
On February 15 2015 07:11 ritoky wrote:
how is no one else bothered by rsoultin's excessive use of smiley faces and copious quantities of unnecessary adjectives?

Believe it or not, that's one reason I think she's town. Go pick a random page of her Horn of Africa filter lmao
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 14 2015 23:16 GMT
#697
On February 15 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Why so lazy?


4 1/2 hours of sleep and bz day. Also might do some doto inhouses later / work on my d&d campaign.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 14 2015 23:19 GMT
#698
Puppy how comfortable are you calling me town? Were you in the Imperial Game? Or whichever one you referred to.
Minimal effort.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 14 2015 23:19 GMT
#699
On February 15 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 08:12 Alakaslam wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote:
on a completely unrelated note, while exploring other things I forgot about my childhood thanks to slam; I stumbled across this gem:

[image loading]

can you name the people in this picture slam?

I didn't watch recess; my mother was a school principal and hated the show (among others) because the portrayal of the principal was always as some ogre or dunce.


how about the CHUPAZI in this one then?

[image loading]

Yup

Less airtime for principal means got away with it

And monkey ninja is best character

But if you want to see childhood of slam

[image loading]

I was that kid with a level 78 pikachu 3 days after having a yellow version

Plus a level 4 caterpie, a pidgey, not much else
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Town Puppy
Profile Joined February 2015
United States167 Posts
February 14 2015 23:19 GMT
#700
I got another townread!!

ritoky is having more fun this game than Imperial (town tell) and I forget who said it but I'm parroting the tier-above thing because it's right.

Man, every town read I get takes me one step closer to accepting Our Lord and Savior, RNGesus Christ
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